₦airaland Forum

kanubiafra:
means it has not been confirmed right? but with evidences shown by kanu it 'may' be likely right? so who will do what if he is not the one ? don't get me wrong the only thing it will do is that it will boost kanu's reputation more and his credibility too. few people will go down for it and nigeria will go on yet no ref. a ref can only come when our allies speak up and they wont speak until there is a crisis. since python dance we have

You really understand the conditions(eg crisis) that stir up the international community to speak up for peaceful resolution through a Referendum.

Donelli, this is what Kanu should focus on(Create Crisis).

How do we secretly create a crisis that can stir up the international community to speak up and intervene.?

That is why I also advocate for secret development of Biafra military capacity to secure our sovereignty once the crisis erupts.

Donelli:
I understand the point you're trying to make, but what you called election in Anambra State was more like allocation of numbers, that is one reason Obiano will not forgive IPOB. Don't take my word for it, find out from any of the inner circles. Do you know there was an agreement not to go to tribunal? Still, don't take my word for it.
I know you'll demand a binary answer, so NO, it did not but it caused some embarassment.

Bolded number 2, having understood these tendencies why do you think we should continue to bear these conditions?

Of the three methods you suggested, I can put it to you that you will be shooting yourself in the foot if you try 2 & 3 and I'll explain.

Method 1: I can assure you, Nigeria is on a crisis of leadership right now and there is international lobbying going on. Anti-IPOB elements should pray fervently that this Jibril issue does not end up being true.

Method 2: Political involvement has shown to be ineffective based on the current arrangement. Revolution? An opportunity to confirm the terrorist tag in addition to militancy. Don't forget, wild animalistic nature has no room for superior argument.

Method 3: Is this even legal

3 is legal if there is a crisis that calls for self preservation eg Fulani Herdsmen Terrorism, Military Coup, Ethnic Cleansing etc.


That's one option IPOB should also explore so that, if crisis like that erupts, we can then use those military techs to secure our sovereignty.

helinues:
Referendum is a long process. A bill must be sent to HoR for debate. After debating then they vote. If majority supports the bill then they pass it forward to senate to vote. It means majority of senate must also approve the bill before considering referendum. After the referendum, the same process repeats in both houses.

Then same process in state assemblies before president can accent to it.

A UN Referendum can be induced through a crisis. So, you idea of Referendum is not the only way.

agarawu23:
any evidence and link to back your claim?

Your leader wouldn't have run if they were winning the battle.

Read history well and stop spewing trash online.


Google is your friend

Ordinary BH has inflicted about 90,000 military casualties and you are here doubting figure known to everyone.

Deathstroke00:
Not just workshop and labs, let them build a weapon factory and have the greatest military base in the world, our gallant nigerian soldiers will beat ur pot bellied, lazy and coward kidnappers and drug pusher soldiers( thats if the Eye porb yoot are brave enough)

Your military that ordinary BH has decimated.

fuckboys:
Bro, if you go through my posts on Nairaland, you'll realize my moniker doesn't portray me.

Hausas, yorubas and the other tribes that fought the biafrans were just British foot soldiers, the real war was between Biafra and British

Do you expect illiterates like him to understand.

Ask him why most weapons used by FG were British weapons and he won't give you an reasonable answer.

Deathstroke00:
U should be more focused on ur over-underdeveloped region, I know u remember when the python dacnced, why didnt u fight?

Is it ur over glorious cultist that will fight our military? Do what u do the best by staying jobless, agressive, idiotic, hiding behind a keyboard with a dry and hairy chest spewing trash without having a second thought.

Buhari till 2023

That is why I am emphasizing that Biafrans return back to their workshops & labs in order to develop weapons that will sink the zoo when the hour arise.

Roger3D:
But yet they still lost just like the Germans and Japanese

humilitypays


That war cost the British their empire and gave the Germans and Japanese the foundation to become greater than Britain.

highcollide:
It is shocking that Nigerians disregard the above. That a white man and his prostitute woke up and determined the destiny of millions of people. Shocking!!

Nigeria is made up of uncivilized ethnic groups.

Deathstroke00:
Believe me or not, both sides suffered, what u should focus on is what u can contribute to make this world a better place.

Please stop the hate

Face reality and accept the fact that over 500,000 military personnel died in that war so that you can advise FG not to push the Biafrans into another arm struggle which will cost the FG at least 10m military personnel.

FarahAideed:
If you know about weapons and you don't know your weapons MAX range and kill range then you shouldn't be packing that heat in the first place sir..When I pick up a rifle the first thing I want to know is the size of its projectile, then the kill range , the the loss of rifling accuracy range and then my MAX range , all these parameters will keep guide my judgments in a defence and offense position

Have you seen the bullets of AA Shilka weapon used by BH that has a kill range of 3km and firing range of 10km.?


If you have seen one, then will you understand why I told you not to emphasis on firing range but kill range.


If you keep mentioning 4000m, gun experts & military personnel will see you as a novice.

FarahAideed:
The killing range is about 400metres but the maximum firing range is about 4000 metres, these are two differnt parameters you know... I am very good with firearms so I know what I am saying

Focus more on the killing range just as every weapon experts do.

I also have good knowledge on the mechanism behind ammunition and can produce one if I get the right materials.

sogodihno:
na Britain fight the war? why u people no get shame like this, 3m of ur kind were wasted and this is all u cud say and wat's their to boast about, you guys were the looser, ur leader run away, so..

If no be Britain give una weapons, una get ordinary commonsense to produce a gun.?

FarahAideed:
Killing range 500 yards , firing distance 4000 yards ( almost 4 kms) ..kniw the difference between the killing range of a rifle and it firing range bro they are different

Focus on the killing range so that people with knowledge about arms/ammunitions don't think, you are exaggerating things.


Even AK 47 has a firing range of 1000m but gun experts do stress on it's killing range of 300m.

Deathstroke00:
Oga 4kilometers for where, ur hatred for our dear president is not good oo.

I hope u live long to see this man leading u to the next level.

Buhari till 2023

Unfortunately, the ingenuity of the Biafrans killed over 500,000 Nigerian military personnel that, got Buhari talking about the war decades later.

{Abdullahi, who served as former President Obasanjo’s Special Adviser on Food Security, pointed out that Buhari was the architect of his own misfortune, having repeatedly rebuffed all entreaties by northern leaders to meet with him and address the issues raised against him.} Vanguard



This people expect Jubril to mistakenly expose his identity during the meeting.

FarahAideed:
That's a Heckler &Koch G3 assault rifle that can fire 800 rounds of 7.62×51mm NATO rounds a minute(the same round Nigerian Army still uses till date ) and a maximum firing distance of almost 4 Kilometres...Its a very viable and deadly weapon

Correction

400metres and not 4km(4000m).

banom:
Welcome dear and thanks for this reasonable question. Boycotting the Nigerian election Is a civil disobedience and one of the many pressure and negotiation tools IPOB intends to use to press home for a date for referendum from the Nigerian government.

IPOB as you know is Indeginous people of Biafra: an umbrella movement that is agitating and championing for the emancipation of BIAFRA from Nigeria in a peaceful and civilised manner.

For BIAFRA to successfully secceed from Nigeria in a peaceful globaly acceptable way without war, a referendum must be conducted in this BIAFRAN area, and for this to happen, Nigeria must agree to it. But to seat down and ask Nigeria for this referendum she will not agree, and that is a waste of time. And to come out on the Nigerian street to protest for it is suicidal as Nigeria government has a penchant to kill unarmed protesters.
So one of the most effective ,peaceful and harmless ways to press home for it is to result or threaten to result into civil disobedience which one of them is election boycott.
Observe that IPOB never said its members will not be participating in the forth coming general election, rather they said" give us a date for referendum or we will not participate in the election. They are too different things here. To simply ask citizens who are still part of a constituted entity not to participate In her election Is undemocratic and uncivilised but to threaten to boycott the election except the Nigerian government gives them a listening ear on their demand for referendum is civilised and democratic.

For Nigerian government to stand in the way of referendum against Biafrans is evil, undemocratic and uncivilised for two major reasons.

One, referendum is enshrined in the African union and United Nations charter which Nigeria is a full member and signatory to. To simply sign something and when it's time to lmplement or practice it you refuse to honour is evil and fraudulent. It's akin to to someone issuing you a dude cheque.

Second, Nigeria as a nation was never put together with any form of consensus agreement or consultation of the people. Lord Lugard woke up one morning possibly after a bad night and for reasons best known to him decided to merge us together and call us a nation. He did that without respect for for us as a people and with total disregard to our differences in value systems, religious and cultural orientation. But what he failed to remember is that that same backward black people he was seeing that time will one day get educated ,get civilised , know their right and worths, ask questions and push to determine who they are and correct this abnormalities . And that is exactly what you are seeing today.

So this call for election boycott while being a civil disobedience is justified by the fact that Nigerian government is the one failing to live up to her constitutional obligation to accept to fix a date for a referendum and will cold bloodedly murder her citizens for demanding for a referendum which is part of their fundamental human right.

One effect the boycott will achieve if "absolute " will be to create power vacum. Another will be to help send messages to the global community who will in turn help pressure the Nigerian government to accept to fix a date for a referendum as they wouldn't want the menace a power vacum will create.

Finally you demanded I give you examples of people that achieved their freedom by boycotting elections. And my answer is this, if you go through history and see how different nations achieved their freedom and come to exist, you will observe that these different nations achieved their freedom in different ways . some of those ways includes through war, referendum or some judicial process. While the methods they employed differes, one thing that is common among them is that they were methods they deemed effective in their place and time and according to realities they confronted in those places.

In our own case, we will equally be seeking for our own freedom through methods that suits the realities obtainable in our plight. IPOB are peace loving people, we will not chose the option of war to gain our freedom from Nigeria, we go for the option of a referendum. And since the Nigerian government is adamant in giving us a date for a referendum, we will use every risk free, effective democratic means withing our limited reach to pressure the Nigerian government to give us a date for referendum. And boycotting the election is one of the most potent and 100% risk free means we can achieve that. If we boycott the election, we have everything to gain and absolutely nothing to lose in our quest for freedom. Thank you.

You said, boycotting election will cause a power vacuum and force the international community to put pressure on Nigeria to call for a Referendum.


Did the boycott of Anambra State election, caused a power vacuum in the state.?


artofseduction
ojiofor
whatmoreng
Donelli


Until we Biafrans realize that Nigeria is made up of wild animalistic ethnic groups who do not respect the desires of we the Biafrans to be a separate entity from them, we won't prepare ourselves for a forceful split when the opportunity arises.

We Biafrans have 3 options because of the wild animalistic nature of Nigerians and these options are:

1) International lobby to get a Referendum which only take effect after a severe crisis.

2) Political involvement and revolution.

3) Secret development of advanced military technologies and mass production facilities in order to build up the military might to secure our sovereignty.



So, Now Answer My Question.


Did the boycott of Anambra State election, caused a power vacuum in the state.?

Teachers who have NCE and BEdu already.

This man wants Buhari to lose this election otherwise, he would have requested that no new teacher will be employed without TRCN.

Sack teachers and lose election.

Donelli:
It will come to pass, no man born of a woman can stop it; and when it comes to pass the world will know that indeed, a new sun is birthed in the east that will lead Africa out of the pit.

Definitely it will come to manifestation but we have to face reality in order to develop feasible plans that can enable us to get Referendum.


Faith Without Work Is Dead.


For now let's face reality that, the zoo won't grant us a Referendum until something drastic is done at the right hour in order to get the UN down to Nigeria to conduct a Referendum.

A war that cost about 500,000 dead Nigerian soldiers and proved to the world that Biafra is another potential Japanese and Germany of Africa if left to thrive.

Donelli:
I already responded to the bolded, to give you a binary answer, it's a NO; but do you think the federal government has been ignoring or will continue to ignore IPOB call for referendum?

On the next step, we'll have to wait and see.

FG will never grant us Referendum because Nigeria is a country filled with weird, undemocratic & uncivilized people.

So, IPOB needs to develop numerous plans in achieving a Referendum.

Atiku 70%
Jubril 30%

Donelli:
I gave up reading from the first paragraph cos I just had the feeling that it will be a waste of time. It was when I read your comment I had to go back and skim the essay, thinking I was too quick to dismiss it but I don't see what makes it a brilliant article. From the first paragraph one can see the writer's stance: he does not believe the Jibril theory.

He starts by trying to shade Nnamdi Kanu, then ends by stating thesame concerns that have been raised. He only succeeded in dancing round the issues without making any sense. His main aim was to discredit the impostor stance.

Is it not a shame that a so called journalist can not do proper investigation even when s/he has agreed that a lot is amiss, than composing an inconclusive article that serves no practical purpose.

That is Yoruba people for you.

Instead of going straight to the point, the idiot decided to ridicule NK only to end up raising the same facts NK raised.

Donelli:
Good morning.

We both know government CAN NOT & WILL NOT ignore civil disobedience, they try to suppress it; and that is why I mentioned earlier that their crude method has become very predictable and for this reason they are always caught on wrong footing.

To answer your question academically, I will say IF the government had ignored all along a different method would have been used.

Many people in the past have tried diplomatic means, it didn't work; Ojukwu tried the method of contesting elections (which many people are suggesting again) it didn't work. Now Nnamdi Kanu, having observed realities on ground that the government only listen to an aggressive approach decides to apply same BUT without forearms and other deadly weapons.

Did he get the attention of the government? YES

Did they try their usual method of money silence? OFCOURSE, but it failed

Did they try blackmail? CLEARLY, but it also failed

What about the last attempt, assassination? ABSOLUTELY, we know the story.

Now my question to you, why will a government go through all this trouble to silence one man

Do you now see what they see, that they're not dealing with a congregation of touts but a set of intelligent and far thinking individuals. If the government is so jittery as to make silly blunders why do we not see what is being played before our eyes

You have still not given us a concrete answer to our question below


And if federal government continue to ignore IPOB call for REFERENDUM what would be IPOB's next step or will they continue to boycott election till eternity.?

Ojiofor:
And if federal government continue to ignore IPOB call for REFERENDUM what would be IPOB's next step or will they continue to boycott election till enternity?

Good Question



chiagozien
and Donelli , pls answer the question.

curfew:
OP you're sweating for nothing. IPOB is not voting in any zoo election. That's a command. We must continue.

Is Not A Matter Of Sweating But Facing Reality About The Cabal's Plan To Overrun Biafran land.


Do Nnamdi Kanu Have Weapons For Us To Defend Ourselves If Jubril Wins and Fulani Terrorists Push Down South.?

Donelli:
I will attempt to point out a thing or two with the hope that you'll be able to review your points from another perspective.

General Consideration
1. Are elections in Nigeria clean up to 80%? (even a 20% malpractice is huge but let's be gentle).

2. Do you honestly believe, I mean can you tell your 2 year old child that votes actually count in Nigeria?

3. What are the impacts from all previous elections you've voted in, assuming you voted in all previous ones?

4. It is said that ONLY A F00L does thesame things over and over and expects a different result. To what extent do you agree/disagree? Has there been any changes in the polling structure? If yes, what are these changes? If no, do you not see the folly in expecting people to go and vote again to continue the cycle of ignorance?

Now coming to Nnamdi Kanu and IPOB
5. Does participating in Nigeria's elections while demanding for a referendum not show unseriousness?

6. If one admits that the current state of elections is a mess, and there has been no deliberate attempt to make changes, does participating in the elections not lay legitimacy to the messed up system? On what moral/ethical ground does one now complain about the system? This is Nnamdi Kanu's argument paraphrased.

7. Do you not see that you're being taken for granted. They lure you with all sorts so you give an appearance of legitimacy. Take it or leave it, the plan is for Atiku to win the election while Jibruhari fades into oblivion, that's if they don't assassinate the imposter.

Finally, it is on this same platform that someone opened a thread with the topic: What do the Igbos really want

We want a level playing field and not this covert and overt oppression and suppression. We want freedom. We demand a Referendum!

If Buhari wins as a result of election boycott and releases Fulani Herdsmen Terrorists to invade Biafra as being done in Benue, Do IPOB Leadership Have Weapons For Us To Use To Defend Biafra.?



Asari Dokunbo is also stressing a point ignored by all of us which is, Fulani Herdsmen Terrorists Have A Plan To Conquer All Parts Of Nigeria Through Terrorism.


Pls, answer my question above this paragraph.

oyin44:
if only kanu can reckon with the resolute ethnic-consciousness of such people (south south)..immediate kanu will discard the idea of secession

Still Thrash

Asari Dokunbo never said give up secession but always consider the safety of Biafrans by working with the enemies of our enemies(including you)

omohdesmond:
We will know if he is a clone by the year 2019 when he loose the election and still live for a year with his wife

They will kill him to cover up.

oyin44:
Obviously..the SS own interests were paramount in their own minds,they did not feel compelled to go with the lbos...ethnic-consciousness is present here.

Thrash

Asari Dokunbo is as much Biafran as Nnamdi Kanu.

kanubiafra:
pls tell us what became of ojukwu and his apga even in igboland since he joined nigeria politics ? i'll only take this as a point if biafra is a region with some autonomy. all the places mentioned by dokubo are autonomous regions. and finally if what you and dokubo said is infinite how come it has not gotten them independence? pls google election boycot

Don't use question to answer a question.


Tell us how boycotting this election will get us a UN supervised referendum.?


Until you are able to do so, people won't buy into the election boycott.


Now, answer the question below


How does boycotting this election get us a UN supervised referendum.?