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Lazarus didn't bother to write a book about what he witnessed? Didn't he talk to his mother, his auntie, or his cousin? No one came up to him with questions? SMFH.

Jesus was crucified, over 300 dead bodies woke up in the cemeteries around the execution site and began entering various marketplaces. To this date, we still don't know what happened to those people. Everyone kept quiet. Even the Romans didn't bring them in for questioning. Do I look like boo boo the fool to you?

No man in his right mind will walk into a fire, except a suicidal person. But that's because suicidal people want to DIE, not ROAST forever and ever.
I often hear believers accuse atheists of rejecting God for some reason. This is an extremely silly position because nobody will see an eternal fire and enter it. That kind of behavior is not common to human beings. Its one thing to die and another to roast forever. So stop this nonsense.

95% of the citizens of North Korea hate their president and many wouldn't mind killing him if given the chance. But that doesn't stop them from WORSHIPING him as GOD incarnate. Why should atheists be any different?

Vikkie14:
The ONLY way i know is through JESUS and not through that your own soil. And if it's death you are referring to, then you greatly err because my B asic I nstructions B efore L eaving E arth tells me not only of death but of Rapture. So that is fallacy on your part.

Oh, that's right, the rapture, when a mother of young children may be suddenly whisked away leaving the toddlers to fend for themselves. Or a husband and wife may be resting in bed, when the husband will instantly disappear leaving the wife and all of his responsibility behind.

One of your brothers just told me that the bible must be believed BEFORE it is UNDERSTOOD. I now see why.

Hiswordxray:
Here is a principle of God's kingdom:
You need to believe God's word before you understand.

You can be brutally honest sometimes. Thanks. This is like receiving a lot of change from a stranger and not bothering to count the money. Big money baller!!!!

wheezyoung:
plus new livestocks tho....multiplied in folds of what he once had

Livestock can be replaced, but you don't kill a man's 5 or 6 children and then give him new children. That's wickedness. I remember a story in the media a few years ago when armed robbers in Boston entered the home of a physician while he was away at work, tied up his two teenage girls, shot the mother in the head and then shot the girls. I tried to imagine how the guy must have felt when he got the call at work, and I couldn't. But I knew one thing for a fact. No amount of NEW family members will make him erase the absolutely horrific event from his memory.

voltron:
The Story of Job is most balls-grabbing ego-blowing teenage behavior I have ever heard.. Satan comes and makes a bet with God and instead of God to let it slide he decides his over-bloated ego was at stake, kills the family of an innocent man and ravages his livestock, just to prove the devil wrong.. OMFG!!

But...but...but... didn't you read the part where God gave him a NEW family with NEW children?

More anecdotes from the people of God. Meanwhile, the world is slowly falling apart at the seams. If you believe this nonsense, then may Jesus call you to heaven before Christmas day. As you may know there's only one way to get to heaven and its through the soil.

ProphetUdeme:
lol this one u dey fear God like this eh. That means u might be even afraid to pray to Him and get close to Him so that wenever u mistakenly sin He will be full of wrath. No my dear.. You have JESUS He is a God of Love and Tender emotions like that of a baby. U can read and learn and tumble on the word of God cos He is your Father. Dont join others to reasson with God as a fiery Man.

Abeg, stop giving out the wrong advice. The man has the right attitude about the God who roasts human beings. That's Genghis Khan level of cruelty and Genghis Khan had a fear factor of 100%.

Someone's been watching too many episodes of Doctor WHO.

As long as there are no weeping angels coming through those gates, I'm good.

Proffdada:
then u only need the product and the manual

But I am the product. Do I need myself?

lastmessenger:
all things are possible

Our current socio-economic system GUARANTEES that we won't see a 10 kobo battery capable of providing power to a home for one week.

lastmessenger:
Ok. Let's go back to using stones to make fire and the world will be alright.

Or let's try to make 10 kobo lithium batteries that can supply power to a home for one week.

waleadex:
The best form of Jihad is to fight the evil in your heart towards your creator. Fighting in Allah's cause as basic meaning of jihad means a whole lot and not all minds can understand since it's not in their best interest.

This is the point. Violent verses can be interpreted ambiguously, and can motivate groups or individuals to act violently.

How do you think the BOKO Haram recruitment process would go without the Quran serving as a tool for recruitment?

Allah doesn't talk to people. That's a big problem. Basically, you have to simply believe that Mohammed spoke with him on FAITH, BLIND FAITH. There is no precedent for that kind of relationship in all of nature.

Proffdada:
have u met Bill Gates or Steve Jobs?

Nope. Why?

Proffdada:
that's still part of it because for a complex product there's a manual of usage and maintenance

Manufacturers do not write manuals for products but for customers using products.

Example, the manual for a 2015 Ford Taurus is not addressed to the 2015 Ford Taurus.
Besides, how can you show me that this designer thing speaks to human beings and has identified itself?

Proffdada:
is it not a sheer and absolute stupidity to think a simple glass cup has a maker and yet a complex organism as the human was made by chance?

That is not what the believers are saying. They go a step beyond that, claiming to have a book that was dictated by the person/designer.

Your argument is rational, but has little to do with the position of the atheist.

sinequanon:
You recognized yourself! Progress.



You remain profoundly brainwashed.

Technology is the exploitation of the environment to service our shortcomings.

Technology leads on to consumerism in the way I Described.

Does technology lead to more consumerism or is it the other way around?
I'm not sure if you're familiar with the zeitgeist movement but Peter Joseph, the leader of the movement, makes an interesting argument for something called artificial scarcity. He suggests that the problem is money, basically.

A society where money is the ultimate reward is self destructive. Well, he has a lot of YouTube appearances, so let me know what you think of his argument. Here's one famous quote from his book, I believe:

"Our entire system, in an economic sense, is based on restriction. Scarcity and inefficiency are the movers of money; the more there is of any resource the less you can charge for it. The more problems there are, the more opportunities there are to make money.

This reality is a social disease, for people can actually gain off the misery of others and the destruction of the environment. Efficiency, abundance and sustainability are enemies of our economic structure, for they are inverse to the mechanics required to perpetuate consumption.

This is profoundly critical to understand, for once you put this together you begin to see that the one billion people currently starving on this planet, the endless slums of the poor and all the horrors of a culture due to poverty and pravity are not natural phenomenon due to some natural human order or lack of earthly resources. They are products of the creation, perpetuation and preservation of artificial scarcity and inefficiency."

Because God doesn't talk to people himself, you'll need to consult TB Joshua more for the messages next year.


It's a simple marketing strategy.

danjumakolo:
Hey don't talk like a pervert..BH are group or bunch of senseless beings whose motive is to walk on air...

The virtues of the Quran is far away from their claim.Have u for once sat and again sat back to marvel at a book that said if u kill a soul,is as if u killed the entire mankind?Well if no,then u need to examine yourself.

Guy,all the verses regarding jihad or killing in quran were during the early stages of Islam which was on constant persecution,killing and hatred by the Quraysh tribe who were idol worshippers..

Good Evening

So why not remove the parts where Allah instructs his followers to kill people who disagree with them?

danjumakolo:
Guy,science have not even gotten to 0.00000001% of the first haven...It is far above their imagination.

God gave us tips in the Quran about the heavens and the earth.He also told us about big bang theory...care to know?

The same Quran that Boko Haram uses today as the primary motivation for all their murderous rampage, right? What you're saying is that God anticipated that Boko Haram would someday use his recorded instructions as a reason to murder babies and decided that it was necessary to proceed with the dictation anyway. Does that make sense to you? Is this a game?

Emmalot121:
Do you have my answers?

The answers don't prove that angel Gabriel talked to Mohammed and recited the words of the Quran in his right ear. Or that the anonymous authors of the Bible were in communication with the person who made the universe. That is the WHOLE point of atheism. Atheism says that no personal deities exist and if they do, then they haven't yet made contact with us based on the evidence. If you wanna say that the eye is too complex to have evolved and that a potentially intelligent designer did it, then fine. But understand that those are the logical parameters of your argument. The minute you point to a book, like the Koran or the bible, or the Torah, it means that you immediately assume an even bigger responsibility. You swallow your head, so to speak, because you then have to show that this intelligent thing talks to people. Good luck with that.

As far as the human eye, you and the rest of the creationists aren't the first ones to notice that the nature of its complexity, at first glance, confounds evolutionary thought. This is what Charles Darwin said in The Origin of Species about the human eye:

"To suppose that the eye with all its inimitable contrivances for adjusting the focus to different distances, for admitting different amounts of light and for the correction of spherical and chromatic aberration, could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I freely confess, absurd in the highest degree."

Scientists know that the human eye evolved by the step-wise addition of features primarily because of two observations, first there are organisms with "intermediate eyes," or eyes that work without one or more of these components right now. Even the simplest of all eyes, just the one cell to detect light and another to judge the angle of incidence exists today in the the marine ragworm.
Secondly, recent discovery has emerged which shows that the SAME gene controls the development of eye structures across a wide range of organisms including flies, mice, and human beings. In fact, basically all bilateral animals use the same Pax6 gene which codes for successful eye development. Without this gene, the eyes of both humans and flies won't develop properly, if they even develop AT ALL.

The current consensus is this, that the eye began as a simple structure to detect sunlight and use that information to confer an advantage. In order for this to be true, there had to be an organism, which means that there were already genes coding for things before there was ever an eye. Through the combined effects of normal gene duplication processes, mutation, and natural selection, components were added to that simple eye structure from other components that ALREADY existed in the organism. In human beings, for example, almost 50% our cornea is made up of a protein which also breaks down toxins in our stomach. The same protein forms the cornea, and does something completely different in our stomach. So you see, the degree of difficulty is not that extraordinary, when you consider that the additional components came from parts that already existed.

Btw, after Darwin wrote that, he also wrote this:

Reason tells me, that if numerous gradations from a simple and imperfect eye to one complex and perfect can be shown to exist, each grade being useful to its possessor, as is certainly the case; if further, the eye ever varies and the variations be inherited, as is likewise certainly the case; and if such variations should be useful to any animal under changing conditions of life, then the difficulty of believing that a perfect and complex eye could be formed by natural selection, though insuperable by our imagination, should not be considered as subversive of the theory.


http://jhered.oxfordjournals.org/content/96/3/171.full

http://learn.genetics.utah.edu/content/variation/toolkit/

maxisfield:
N he actually knws diaz Jesus n he also knws wat he cn or cannot do. Wat a joke..plz stop deceivin ur self

A hypothetical Jesus. Are you unable to use your brain once its locked onto this God business? Telling you what Jesus wouldn't do doesn't mean that the person is acknowledging Jesus to be a real person. Superman wouldn't murder women and small children and he wouldn't curse at people online either. Are you willing to admit that "diaz Superman" too?

Freemanan:
It still beats me that some educated folks will attack someone because he doesn't believe in a god. Even our constitution provides for the freedom of religion and conscience..... Conscience here means you can choose what to belief so long it doesn't infringe on another person's right.

You are describing the ideal scenario where the pastor, rabbi, pope, or imam conducts his activities with fellow believers without affecting mine. This is rarely the case.

The pope of the Catholic church went to Africa in 2009 and told the people in Cameroon that making condoms available to citizens may be what is INCREASING the HIV infection rate in Africa. Meanwhile 66% of all HIV cases on EARTH are in Sub Saharan Africa, a region which includes Nigeria and Cameroon. When did the pope become an infectious disease specialist? He was speaking with divine authority, because contraception in general is ALREADY prohibited by the Catholic church. Apparently, some guy in the old testament pulled out of a chick he was screwing and spilled his seed on the ground, therefore Africans should not wear condoms because of that now.

In defense of the pope though, he has every right to use his mouth to say rubbish. Have you seen the man's house? It is a whole country, furnished with all the finest things MONEY can buy. And the best of food and soft robes.

So don't tell me that they're not infringing on the rights of others. Boko Haram and ISIS and not bringing matters up for a vote either. They're executing the principles of the story book. Both the Quran and the Bible urge the reader to fU?ck with me somehow. They won't stop and neither will I.

Freemanan:
It still beats me that some educated folks will attack someone because he doesn't believe in a god. Even our constitution provides for the freedom of religion and conscience..... Conscience here means you can choose what to belief so long it doesn't infringe on another person's right.

You are describing the ideal scenario where the pastor, rabbi, pope, or imam conducts his activities with fellow believers without affecting mine. This is rarely the case.

The pope of the Catholic church went to Africa in 2009 and told the people in Cameroon that making condoms available to citizens may be what is INCREASING the HIV infection rate in Africa. Meanwhile 66% of all HIV cases on EARTH are in Sub Saharan Africa, a region which includes Nigeria and Cameroon. When did the pope become an infectious disease specialist? He was speaking with divine authority, because contraception in general is ALREADY prohibited by the Catholic church. Apparently, some guy in the old testament pulled out of a chick he was screwing and spilled his seed on the ground, therefore Africans should not wear condoms because of that now.

In defense of the pope though, he has every right to use his mouth to say rubbish. Have you seen the man's house? It is a whole country, furnished with all the finest things MONEY can buy. And the best of food and soft robes.

So don't tell me that they're not infringing on the rights of others. Boko Haram and ISIS are not bringing matters up for a vote either. They're executing the principles of the story book. Both the Quran and the Bible urge the reader to fU?ck with me somehow. They won't stop and neither will I.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7947460.stm

None. I'm still waiting on the proof showing that there is a God and the God is the bible one, not Allah or Vishnu.

So far all I've seen are YouTube videos of TB Joshua healing believers of arthritis and stomach ulcer.

One guy told me today that a dead man in his village woke up in the mortuary after almost one week. The man then told someone after waking up that he saw hell. Although he failed to mention which type of hell it was, Allah's own or Zeus.

The distinction is very important because Allah, for example, doesn't like the consumption of swine meat. You can see where the problem is.

Emmalot121:
Its sad none could answer my questions.

You strike me as someone who doesn't understand the arguments against her position.

Those questions could only be asked by someone who doesn't understand the argument.

Zikdik:
Check your mail. Those are my favourites.

Thanks for recommending Inferno. I had completely forgotten that the man had written another book.

He's my new Tom Clancy.

ProphetUdeme:
a man of God by name victor in my state died and after 3 days was revived in the mortuary and he testified that hell is real. I had to belief because he died physically due to a fatal accident

I understand the basis of your belief. This man of God, did he mention which hell it was?

I mean, what were the criteria for entry into the hell that he saw? Do I have to believe the prophet Mohammed or did he see Mohammed there?

I welcome your insight on these questions.

sinequanon:
A babalawo may work with belief as an integral part of treatment.

If you'd ever bothered to open a biology textbook in your miserable life, you would have noticed how common it is for different scientists in the same field to hold contrasting theories about a single observation.

Stop all the long winded nonsense about nothing. Or you should open a thread on philosophy, because that's about the only thing you have to offer.

Shamans and babalawos, the real ones, take drugs. Consciousness altering drugs. That's their secret. Belief is merely a complimentary factor as in any form of treatment.

ProphetUdeme:
The wicked shall be turned into hell and all the nations forget God (psalm 9 vs 17)

right from the time that the Lord Jesus was on earth, he preached and warned people from ending up there (mark 9 vs 47) (matthew 25 vs 41 an 46)

well the jehovah witness do not believe in its existence while some believe but maintain that there should be some lesser punishment and not to roast His creations with an everlasting fire.

Hell is a warning to all humans from their Maker (ezekiel 33 vs 7-8 ) and even if u hate Him like the atheist like onetrack ifeness and zikdik does wont u rather run to Him and force urself to love Him. Its like a fiery lion in a bush that destroys without mercy but only makes peace with those who come to him. Wont u rather surrender to that Lion so that u can be at peace with him and save urself?

First of all, I'm going nowhere near a deranged lion in an evil forest, especially if the lion "destroys without mercy."

Secondly, you're right. Atheists are not made of flame resistant materials. But the argument on the table is that there is no hell because no one has died and come back to tell us. There could be a wine parlor, a brothel with unicorn pussy, a post life day spa, or any number of possibilities.

The bible was written by people who were ALIVE, eating, sh.ittin, and digging their noses. From what I've been able to gather from the LIVING so far, telling lies is very common to human beings.

Viagra or Cialis?

Hiswordxray:
How are you sure I thought about it before writing.
Please prove it to me.

I'm not. You could be a bot. Bots merely retrieve information according to an established algorithm. Are you a robot or a human being?