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Politics › Re: What Did You Learn From The Presidential Media Chat? by wesley80(m): 9:16pm On Nov 18, 2012
This here is exactly why I said Comprehension is a national problem.
omicron: Describing his chat as 'verbose' and 'vague' is by no means sarcastic. To me nothing discreet - not to any meaninful question asked.
Politics › Re: What Did You Learn From The Presidential Media Chat? by wesley80(m): 9:11pm On Nov 18, 2012
^Olodo, it was a "chat" not a State of Union address.
Politics › Re: What Did You Learn From The Presidential Media Chat? by wesley80(m): 9:07pm On Nov 18, 2012
omicron: Professor, oya pls tell me what you learnt?
Rid yourself of the sarcasm first.
Politics › Re: What Did You Learn From The Presidential Media Chat? by wesley80(m): 8:54pm On Nov 18, 2012
Not surprised that was all you learnt, comprehension has always been a national problem. If you need someone to make sense of the interview for you, why not ask politely instead of resorting to uncomplimentary adjectives like "verbose" and "vague" to describe an interview session others found pretty refreshing?
Christianity Etc › Re: TB Joshua Spends £100,000 (N26m) To Send Nigerian Student To Oxford University by wesley80(m): 8:39pm On Nov 18, 2012
Good one.
Politics › Re: Ayo Oritsejafor, When Will You Tell Nigerians The Truth? by wesley80(m): 5:54pm On Nov 18, 2012
^... says a reprobate!
Politics › Re: Ayo Oritsejafor, When Will You Tell Nigerians The Truth? by wesley80(m): 5:40pm On Nov 18, 2012
seanet01: You have problem. One day Our Pastors will start having their own republics. Brainwashed monkey.
The best example around here of a bigot, racist and hopeless supremacist! Your views and thoughts are worth less than a used tissue paper. Go get help.
Politics › Re: Ayo Oritsejafor, When Will You Tell Nigerians The Truth? by wesley80(m): 5:06pm On Nov 18, 2012
Wadeoye: What is the sense in the above? "relative luxury"... What does that mean? How has jet acquisition becomes relative luxury? When has acquisition of limo become relative luxury? So, every christian must have private jet to be able to have the "relative luxury" required to worship God? You are thinking with your anus... Does christianity removes followers brain and forget to put something back there?
Apologies sir, I was guilty of assuming literacy means more than ability to read and write. Obviously, I was wrong. No vex bros.
Culture › Re: The Mystery Of The Idemili Culture!!! by wesley80(m): 4:46pm On Nov 18, 2012
^ Which one be "Python pillow"? Python dey fear salt? You sure you didnt mistake pythons for earthworms?
Politics › Re: Ayo Oritsejafor, When Will You Tell Nigerians The Truth? by wesley80(m): 4:34pm On Nov 18, 2012
Wadeoye: No evil man - just to wake you up from your slumber. We can't fold our arms and watch our brothers being swindled in the name of miracle and prosperity. As someone said, the richest man in Africa is a muslim - Islam doesnt believe in all these prosperity through miracle as Nigerian christians want the world to belief. And you talked about tithe. Have you ever asked yourself why you pay tithe? Is the money for God or to be used for charity and help the needy? If it is for the later, why are the pastors (the prosperity preachers) turn this into their personal money and use the money to buy jets, cars, and things of the world that will end in the world. That man Dangote, worked with other people to rase N2.5B for flood victims. He has not claimed to be man of God like your pastors will claim. Tell me, who God will see as his man? Your pastors who are driven by love for money and cheating people and now collaborating with politicians to deepen corruption in the country? Or Dangote, who apart from working hard for his money and creating employment for people, he is now raising money for the needy? I know what your response will be - pastors are as corrupt in mind as their followers. Everybody lookig for shortcut to money - it doesnt matter how the money come and from where - all is God's blessing.
The problem with you and others on this thread is your warped sense of interpretation of what 'faith' is. Your perverted understanding of what religion actually entails is the reason you guys find it impossible to understand "relative luxury" as a way of serving God. I wonder why you guys dont dissipate energy in criticizing Christians for burying their dead in "relative luxury" when your mode of burial is to roll the dead into a mat and bury before sunset! Why dont we bury our dead as modestly as you do? Have you guys ever stopped to think about it?
While your religion inspires some of you to stuff a bomb down your buttcrack in serving your God, ours inspires us to give up our most valuable things in futherance of Christ's Gospel of PEACE and LOVE. It doesnt matter how much 'relative luxury' our "Men of God" are seen to enjoy inthe cause of furthering that 'Gospel', we the followers are down with it and would have no question whatsoever so long as its for the cause we've freely chosen to commit our lives to. If he's seen to require a jumbo jet to further that 'Cause', we would gladly work towards it! Tnis is not to say such disposition cant be taken advantage of, but that's the belief that drives the action of a 'Section' of some of us Christians.
Now, whether you agree with us or not, thats your problem, but please before you preach to us, lokk closer within- You've got more serious problems within. leave us lets spend our money the way we've chosen.
Politics › Re: Gov Obi's Mall In Abj(pic) by wesley80(m): 9:27pm On Nov 17, 2012
You DONT KNOW if he actually owns the mall so softly run your BP, abi you get money to take go India go take treatment?
Culture › Re: The Mystery Of The Idemili Culture!!! by wesley80(m): 9:18pm On Nov 17, 2012
^ Where you come dey run go? abi no be una town juju again? If you wey be son of the soil 'took', wetin JJC go come do?
Politics › Re: Katsina State Flags Off 30MW Solar Power Plant by wesley80(op): 9:06pm On Nov 17, 2012
Funding and expertise will come from the German govt while the Katsina govt will play its own background role like providing the site, logistics, security etc. The German ambassador was at the site a couple of days ago. Whats in it for the Germans? i honestly dont care, and no, you dont have to know about the boldened organization for it to actually exist, it exists anyway![quote author=ekt_bear]Never heard of the bolded organization before in my life. So, who is really paying for the plant? Germany, or the Nigerian FG? And under what arrangement?[/quote]Funding and expertise will come from the German govt while the Katsina govt will play its own background role like providing the site, logistics, security etc. The German ambassador was at the site a couple of days ago. Whats in it for the Germans? i honestly dont care, and no, you dont have to know about the boldened organization for it to actually exist, it exists anyway!
Politics › Re: Ayo Oritsejafor, When Will You Tell Nigerians The Truth? by wesley80(m): 8:42pm On Nov 17, 2012
^Typical. So like a septic tank to mock a bin!
Politics › Re: Ayo Oritsejafor, When Will You Tell Nigerians The Truth? by wesley80(m): 7:28pm On Nov 17, 2012
Very funny thread I've got to say. This is akin to a bunch of 'uncircumcised Philistines' having a discussion on who's fit to be king of the Jews! If only you guys would choose to dissipate this much energy criticizing your imams, you'lld succeed in helping lift an entire generation of people from certain abject poverty and perpetual backwardness.. Nigerian Christians are already a century ahead of you and all you guys do is bicker about their leaders? Open your eyes pls, there's a bigger problem inside your pants!
Culture › Re: The Mystery Of The Idemili Culture!!! by wesley80(m): 8:14am On Nov 17, 2012
In 1985, Mr. Boniface Chukwunwike Ideh, an enterprising young mechanic bought a Bedford van, which he meant to resell for profit. But due to pressing family matters, especially as a newly married man, he decided to leave the car in the parking lot for a while.
When he later decided it was time to trade the van, he suddenly found out that one of the wheels was faulty. He therefore brought out the jack and set to lever the vehicle. But the soil was loose and the jack was shaky and could not hold. So, he called for help and some able-bodied young men helped to push the van to another position. And soon as he succeeded in loosing the tyre, Ideh was struck numb with an ugly sight, petrified.
A big python, which had occupied a space within the wheel, has just been crushed to death, while the vehicle was being push to its present position. And curiously, pythons are held sacred in the community. Thus, the killing of python by anybody was considered a taboo in the place.
The young Ideh, however, soon recollected himself from the shock and dashed into his house to inform his wife, Mary. But since the wife was married from a different community other than Ideh’s home-place, she did not understand the full import of what her husband was saying.
Solemnly, Ideh went to his uncle’s house to inform him about his ordeal. But his conscience was made worse when after listening to him; his aged uncle suddenly bowed his head and shade tears. Then after a brief moment he looked up and askedIdeh, why he had killed the sacred python. And the young man insisted it was an accident, as he did not even know that therewas a python there in the first place.
Given his explanation, Ideh’s uncle referred him to his grandfather in the next compound to tell him what to do. There, his grandfather, who was incidentally incharge of the village deity, told him to go and buy a small coffin and a piece of white cloth for the burial of the slain snake. Ideh did and was further told to dig the hole for the burial of the python. Before the earth was covered, he was asked to plead for forgiveness as he had only killed the python by accident.
According to Ideh from Enugwu-Ukwu in Njikoka Council Area of Anambra State, narrated the story to THISDAY in Awka recently. “I grew up to know that our people reverence the python. I also know that it is free to come into our homes and leave at will. But if you do not want it to stay at that moment, it is your duty to gently take it away, but not to kill it.
“But if accidentally our indigene kills a python, such a person will have to perform the burial rites as if the dead python was a human being. In the ancient times, if a child bed-wets, you tie a python around his or her waist and the bed-wetting would stop. If by mistake the python bites you, all you have to do is to simply present that part of the body to it and it will pour its spittle on it and then you are free from any trouble thebite would have caused.
“However, the python cannot come out and swallow hen’s eggs or their chicks as is the situation with snakes. If it does, then the children will gather and flog it and it cannot cause them any harm.” He pointed out, adding that the creature is only supposed to bring peace and protection to the communityand not harm.
THISDAY investigations revealed that beyond Enugwu-Ukwu, many other communities in Anambra State and adjoining states reverence or avoid the eating of one animal or another because they serve as totems of their deity or ancestral gods. Such animals include monkey, tortoise, crocodile, snail and antelope, among others. Other communities that reverence pythons are Abagana, Agulu, Ihiala, Nri, Ogidi, and other townsin Idemili, and neighbouring communities in Imo State like Oguta, Mgbidi, Njaba and Oguta, among others.
For instance, there was this other story of one Carol, who got married to Ikechukwu, an artisan from Ogidi in Idemmili North Council Area of Anambra State and gave birth to a set of twins. And like every other healthy mother, Carol fed her children, lured them to sleep and went outside to wash and hang their cloths on the lines.
But on coming back to the room, she met quite an ugly sight: Ahuge python was lying on the same bed with her babies, intertwining them! Her heart leapt and she suddenly rushed out of the room and let out her breath for help! Immediately, other villagers within the area who heard her wails rushed to the scene and accosted her. Rather than explain, as she was dumb-founded, Carol hurriedly led them into the room and pointed at the bed where the python was lying rolling around her new babies. Instantly one of them, an elderly woman turned around and held Carol, covering her mouth and led her outside and told her not to panic because the gods had come to see her children and offer them protection against evil influences.
However, much as the members of the communities believe in the efficacies of the totem, most of those from outside their areas especially married women like Carol see the tradition or culture as alien to them, but only try to adjust to the dictate.
For instance, Ideh’s wife, Mary from another community other than Enugwu-Ukwu told THISDAY that she is still trying to adjust to the phenomenon of the python, especially that: “it is strange to wake up and notice a python rolling around your bed at night.” She said that she so often insisted that each timeshe returns home with her children to the village that her husband should do “an all-round clean-up” of the house so thatnobody would be embarrassed.
Not minding that anyway, her husband, although a Christian still believes that there is still some spirituality in the python phenomenon, adding that all it required is to avoid confrontation with the ritual avoidance of any community youfind yourself in at any moment.
“If you are in Rome, behave like the Romans”, he advised adding that he had arrived at this conclusion from the various experiences he had had over time. Ideh recounted that during the civil war between 1968 and 1969, he was deployed as a soldier Lokpanta in Abia State, and noticed that the people revered Cobra. He said that from onset, the indigenes warned them not to kill such snakes because they were sacred and belonged to their deity. He said that while they crawled in the bush, the cobra crawled over them but did not harm any of them, but that soon as some of the soldiers began to kill them, there was trouble: the cobras revolted and struck.
“The snakes began to bite those soldiers that got in the habit of killing them. But they never touched any of us that did not harm them. Instead they joined us and fought the enemies of the war front,” he stressed. Still emphasising the practicality ofthe belief in the totem of the python, Ideh said, “when we were young, we learnt that if you live outside the traditions of Enugwu-Ukwu setting and there is an emergency at home, which affected you, the python would travel from Enugwu-Ukwu to wherever you live as the need may arise.
“When this happens, it is your duty to take it back home to Enugwu-Ukwu and consult the oracle on why the python had mysteriously visited you at the place you sojourned” he stressed. Ideh also recounted an experience he had in his Enugwu-Ukwu community last year where by his friend had begged him from his base in Awka to drop him off at his homeplace. But quite close to his house some thing strange happened.
He said as soon as they got close to the junction to his house gunfire rented the air and he was forced to scurry to safety in the darkness. But in doing that his mobile telephone handset fell and switched off as well as his house keys. But while he succeeded in picking the phone he could not find the keys and as such horribly left the key even as he marked the exact location in his sub-conscious mind.
According to Ideh, he was surprised that when he returned to the same place around 5am the next morning that a python had covered it self around his bunch of keys. And that on sighting him, the snake suddenly recoiled, leaving the keys andcrawled out of the vicinity, so that he can pick his keys.
Just like Enugwu-Ukwu is the case of its nearby community of Awka, which reverences monkeys and forbids any harm against them because they are totems of their ancestral deity, Imoka. However, there are three versions to the Awka monkey-myth. According to one of the prominent sons of Awka, Mr. Chukwujekwu Nnaemeka from Umuogbu village, the phenomenon began in the ancient times when on returning from a hunting expedition, the hunters stood before the Imoka shrine to share the games of their exploits, which included a live monkey. Nnaemeka, a businessman and traditionalist, said they were told that towards the end of the sharing, one of the hunters suddenly remembered that they had ignored to give anything to the Imoka deity, which live monkey to the shrine.
He nevertheless, gave another version whereby the monkeys were revered because they were quite instrumental to Awka in wining an unexpected invasion by providing some guiding signal to the Awka warriors at that time. We were told that warriors from Ndikerionwu had invaded the first village in Awka and were advancing to the next village Umuike. And on sensing the invaders the, friendly black monkeys journeyed down and began to wag their tails at the indigenes to warn them on the looming danger,” Nnaemeka explained.
Collaborating this version of the myth, another indigene of Awka, Chief Chukwuma Igwilo, from Umudioka village said: “according to my father we revere the black monkeys because when we were engaged in a warfare with our invaders the monkeys worked in our interest by providing our warriors with signals that helped them win the war.
Igwilo, a hunter and vice chairman of Omenala (tradition) Awka, never the less said there are three types of monkeys in the category: The brown monkeys, the milk-colour monkeys and the black monkeys. “Our people noticed that the monkeys involved in the warfare were particularly black in colour and we therefore resolved to adopt and reverence it in our tradition. So our ancestors decided to entrench the myth of theblack monkeys into our tradition and culture, which is celebrated in our annual Imoka festival” Igwilo explained.
“And since then any one that kills black monkeys within Awka kingdom would be held responsible as having committed a taboo, and such person would be subjected to its burial rites asif he had killed a fellow human being. If you are an Awka indigene and you see a stranger kill a black monkey, but conceded the fact such Awka person would definitely be killed by the Imoka deity,” he stressed.
In another interview with THISDAY, a prominent herbalist in Amawbia, Awka South Local Government Area of Anambra State, where pythons are equally revered, Ozo Nweribe Nwekeodo, simply told THISDAY in an interview that the phenomenon of the python being held sacred in his community began “since the ancient times when after dinner, our children got a lot of troubles. Then our ancestors went to the oracle to find out the reason for the troubles. They were told that the people should stop eating crawling creatures.
http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/pythons-reverred-in-some-anambra-communities/130846/
Politics › Katsina State Flags Off 30MW Solar Power Plant by wesley80(op): 7:41am On Nov 17, 2012
When was the last time you heard something, anything remotely positive concerning the North?

Katsina State Governor, Alhaji Ibrahim Shehu Shema, has flagged-off the thirty mega watts of energy solar powered plant for the benefit of the people of the State.

Speaking at the flag-off on Friday, Governor Ibrahim Shehu Shema urged the firm handling the project to ensure that it is completed within eight months from now, stating that the power plant project is being undertaken by the Nigeria-German Energy Commission under a partnership arrangement to boost energy supply.

The Governor assured of necessary support and cooperation to ensure timely completion of the project, adding that the partnership between Nigeria and Germany would help in tapping the hydro, gas and wind to source energy for societal development.

Shema pointed out that the German efficacy in energy is not doubtful and is intended to serve the needs of industrial and commercial purposes.

The Governor lamented that the shortage in power supply started for long, adding that the Federal Government is however working hard to tap all the energy sources in the country to address the matter.

He said the 30 mega watt electricity project on completion would encourage the development of industries, technology and the creation of jobs among the citizens, while expressed appreciation over the partnership and harmony especially on solar powered development.

In his remark, the commissioner for Resource Development, Engineer Musa Nashuni said the current administration of Governor Ibrahim Shehu Shema had since its inception been trying to develop alternative source of energy.

Engineer Musa Nashuni disclosed that as a demonstration of itscommitment to the 30mega watt electricity project, Government had already issued the certificate of occupancy of the project site.

The German Ambassador to Nigeria, Mrs. Dorothy assured of her country’s readiness to promote renewable energy through the use of wind and water.
http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/katsina-flags-off-30-mega-watts-of-solar-energy-plant/130857/
Culture › Re: Are Ukwuani People Igbos(ukwuani People Please Talk) by wesley80(m): 1:16am On Nov 17, 2012
PhinaBrown: What is so special about Ukwuani people that the igbos will not allow them to be. Please we are ok as Ukwuani people, do try to be ok as an igbo person please. Do not make us to be what we are not. After all, we did not wake up one day and decided to be known and called Ukwuani people. If we accept to be igbo today, what happens to the Ukwuani. Will you discard the tribe because they speak bia like the igbo do? Do not alter history. Even if we speak 100% the same word for word, it will not change the fact that we are Ukwuani people. So allow us to be. We are who we are. THE UKWUANI PEOPLE and not Igbo people ok.
Ermmm Mam, we are actually "Ndokwas" not "Ukwuanis". We (in Ndokwa East) do not want to be called Ukwuanis cos we arent.
Now how petty do I sound?
Politics › Re: Nigerian First Lady Patience Jonathan Still Sick by wesley80(m): 9:58pm On Nov 16, 2012
^ Sure you dont need me to remind you of the different tales that emanated from the stables of SR over the first Lady's health do you? There's nothing wrong with writing about the first lady or her health but when such write ups become an obsession mostly bordering around the ridiculous (with a few hits of course), you just have to wonder what's driving their obsession.
Politics › Re: Nigerian First Lady Patience Jonathan Still Sick by wesley80(m):
subterfuge: Sorry for the wife of the slowpoke / coconut brain jonathan.
I wish he was the sick one!!!!
Nigeria would have been free from a Block headed Fisherman dullard / Mumu.
El Rufai is that you? take am easy o, cos na so "stroke" take dey start o.
Politics › Re: Nigeria Scraps Canada Power Contract In Privatisation Setback by wesley80(m): 9:21pm On Nov 14, 2012
The selection process for a management contractor was started under the administration of former President OlusegunObasanjo in 2007, but was stalled by his successor, the late President Umaru Yar’Adua, who rolled back the power sector reform and privatisation programme.
However, when Jonathan took over in 2010 and launched the Power Sector Road Map that same year, the Federal Government directed the BPE to continue with the process from where it had been stopped, rather than re-advertising forprospective companies to express interest all over.
The decision was based on the fact that the government was eager to jump-start the power privatisation process without the bureaucratic red tape.
But presidency sources said the president based his decision to cancel the contract on a memo sent by the Bureau of Public Procurement (BPP), which for several weeks, had been pushing for its cancellation on the premise that did it not pass through due process as provided under the Public ProcurementAct.
The Director General of the BPP, Emeka Eze, THISDAY learnt, was said to have kicked against the appointment of Manitoba because a few MATERIAL irregularities had been noticed in the process that led to the company's selection.
“It is better to correct these irregularities now to save the future of the management contract, than to have one that could run into hitches. Moreover, a stitch in time, saves nine,” said one official with the presidency.
http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/power-privatisation-president-cancels-manitoba-contract/130580/

Whatever happened to reasonable and constructive criticisms? PDP this GEJ that while the core issues are totally ignored - and that's someone's definition of Nation building. SMH.
Politics › Re: Power Privatisation: President Cancels Manitoba Contract 14 Nov 2012 Font Size: by wesley80(m): 10:27am On Nov 14, 2012
karl max: The source said the BPP DG picked holes in the contract, querying why the designated managing director was 57 years old, which he felt was too old, insisting that the contract be cancelled because the BPE had misled the NCP by procuring the management contractor.

Eze was also said to have insisted that if the BPP had overseen the procurement of the contractor, it is the Federal Executive Council (FEC) that should have approved the selection of Manitoba based on the BPP’s recommendation.
What's all these? If these guys would rather have Nigerian owned companies managing the entire power sector then they should be bold enough to say so instead of giving flimsy excuses for cancelling a deal that took nearly 5yrs to consumate. It's obvious someone isnt comfortable with a foreign company running things in Abuja regardless of their reputation. Obviously, this would'nt have happened with Nnaji at the power ministry.
Politics › Re: Ribadu Report - Olisa Agbakoba (member Of Committee) Reacts. by wesley80(m): 8:03pm On Nov 13, 2012
The only people questioning the credibility of the report are media thugs like El Rufai and our God forsaken opposition parties. The FG merely pointed out the flaw in the report as reiterated here by Agbakoba whilst not failing to appreciate the core findings and significance of the report. Ribadu's forthrightness is his greatest attribute but sadly, he's always overzealous in his dealings. I hope the Mallam finds a way to overcome this glaring character flaw.
Business › Re: Users Of ATM Will No Longer Pay N100 On Withdrawals - CBN by wesley80(m): 7:38pm On Nov 13, 2012
Wondering how soon the "soon" would be.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Haiti Could Have Larger Oil Reserves Than Venezuela Says Scientists - EU Times by wesley80(m): 12:08am On Nov 13, 2012
Didnt read the entire piece cos I know for a fact its all crap. There's no way "globalists" would rather choose to have most of their power needs domiciled in an increasingly hostile Middle East and Russia and choose to deliberately stifle development in Hati cos of a few million black folks, thats nonsensical. And hey, how bout Oil thirsty and technologically savvy China thats been patronizing blood sucking leaders like Omar al Bashir just to exploit their oil and secure her power needs? are they also part of the 'globalists'? Really?
Politics › Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by wesley80(m): 11:46pm On Nov 12, 2012
Jarus: Noted.
"Noted" wont do, your honest opinion might. He's made a very useful suggestion that just might elevate these debates which at the moment are no more than mere cyber exercises that serves little purpose other than create an avenue for some well versed folks to regale us with their intellectual sagacity (Excluding Seun, 10,000 views must surely serve some purpose). My point is these debates can actually mean more. Think of a debate on a pressing issue and an online petition created on its heel and signed by upwards of 5,000 citizens! i think its worth a try, no?
Christianity Etc › Re: Picture Of Pastor Oritsejafor's Wife Limousine by wesley80(m): 11:08pm On Nov 12, 2012
Anyone that has seen Helen Oritsejafor and hasnt recently come down with severe cataracts in both eyes should know that isnt the very elegant Mama. Whether or not she actually owns one is another issue but that def isnt her. Linda Ikeji is a gossip with a laptop not a news source.
Culture › Re: Anioma Is An Ethnic Group - Emeka Esogbue by wesley80(m): 10:41pm On Nov 12, 2012
Abagworo: Agbotaen is right and its not applicable to Igbo alone. That Igbo identity was more of an identification gotten outside by slaves as a result of language similarities and later brought home. There is no doubt that the word Igbo existed but the concept is yet to be absolutely ascertained. If you visit the Carribean thread you'll see where slaves listed their ethnic groups and notice that Etche, Isuikwuato, Isuama, Abala, Oratta, Ugiri, Omuma and a lot of what we consider today as merely Igbo towns or clans considered themselves distinct.

Agbotaens intention is however different from mine. He believes we should go back to the past and have 1,000 ethnic groups in Igboland not knowing that "Igwe bu ike".
I totally agree with you and believe its plain naivety that would make anyone think otherwise.
Christianity Etc › Re: TB Joshua - Pray Nigeria's Flag Doesn't Fly At Half-mast by wesley80(op): 12:21pm On Sep 24, 2012
[quote author=*Shollypopz]NO!! HE doesn't @ all...Are u kidding me?? He does not even hv time 4 himself. He doesn't visit the net, In fact I'm sure he does not hv his personal e-mail address talk less of visiting d net. D dude doesn't even own personal bank account. The FB page is handled by emmanueltv and even if u get to see him physically to lay ur complain, he can only scold and preach to them. Those disciples are something else. (They are like church workers, do not want my use of disciple to confuse you) I can't talk bad about them though, a lot of ppl hv acted irrationally and that's why they've become so mean. PPl try to do crazy stuff to see d Pastor..........[/quote]I've heard him make reference to the net but its possible he does'nt visit like I assumed. All the same I believe crowds and individuals can be controlled with reasonable levels of dignity, the account above is sickening.
Christianity Etc › Re: TB Joshua - Pray Nigeria's Flag Doesn't Fly At Half-mast by wesley80(op): 11:47am On Sep 24, 2012
[quote author=Ricky_Ross]The only sad and negative thing I have about his church is the WORKERS, or are they called USHERS. I was at Synagogue last 2 weeks Sunday, the same day that Ghana goalkeeper came with his wife. I was at synagogue with some elderly people for something, and the way these ushers were hitting people and trash talking people is quite alarming. I am supposed to make a post about my findings but I have been busy, in the next few days I will say it all out bc i want them to change. They must understand that not everyone at synagogue has disease, people of different personalities visit there for so many different reasons. If we dont make report about these guys they cannot change. My anger is the old men and women they were beating like slaves, they manner they talk to people. There was this old Yoruba woman they were beating so hard it got to a point I personally went to tell them that am gonna go to the internet and make report about my findings and they told me i can even go to hell they dont carehuh? I want to know how can i write a report that TB JOSHUA himself can read? Bc i don't think he has time for the internet?. and I was told these ushers are paid monthly, that everyone at the synagogue is a staff and they are all paid? So why are these people paid to beat innocent people? Am i the only one that has noticed this or are there other people here who have noticed the brutality and arrogance of these synagogue workers?[/quote]Now thats sad. Not sure how you can reach him in person but I believe he visits the Net pretty regularly, whether or not his visits are enough to see your NL post is another matter entirely. Maybe you should try making repeated posts on their FB homepage but the downside of doing that is that it might look like a smear campaign. I sincerely hope word gets to him soonest in everyone's interest, crowds and obstinate people can be controlled with reasonable levels of dignity.
Christianity Etc › Re: Did God Really Die For You? by wesley80(m): 3:44am On Sep 24, 2012
Well, God has cured countless people of AIDS and frankly, I've heard of such miracles so much that it isn't really a big deal any longer - his grace is sufficient. A dear aunt whose husband was struck down by some illness and eventually died from once said "money is ashamed" cos not even the best hospitals around d world made any difference at the end so forgive me for finding it simplistic that you chose to hinge your faith in humanity on the very limited abilities of medical science - that's quite sad and a touch desperate. I understand the relative comfort you prolly live in in a society where services are efficient and there's utmost trust in the abilities of medical personnel, your courage is understandable afterall, Danger is faraway! But what do you tell the lady that has got to journey 500km to have a mere pap smear? What do u tell the one who just discovered there are only two or three hospitals she can have radiotherapy at forbidden costs but is being eaten away by those cells? I'll tell you, its called "faith" and its the currency of the righteous and with it, all things can be gotten - good health inclusive. That's why the poor holds on dearly to their faith but the privileged relies on man and his abilities till man fails him completely and there's nothing to fall back on. You don't have to agree with me, but its the truth nonetheless.
Christianity Etc › Re: Did God Really Die For You? by wesley80(m): 2:54am On Sep 24, 2012
^Some bed you have there I've got to say, I wonder what it would have to say to someone battling Stg 4 leukemia and had been thru both radio and chemotherapies and was told to wait for death, any ideas? Well mine said "get up and live in health again and she did! No shi*t, I saw it with both my eyes. Now what would Freud have said?

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