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yeah seun should definitely do something for his bday, like bring back pm for example or use different color smilies for a week.

If it is not Wesley Snipes !!!!!!

Uchenna where'd you go?

she doesn't look that bad. (kelly rowland is prettier).
the weaves need to go though.

If you are refering to the pilgrims who left England to "discover" the new world then you would have your history upside down.

the pilgrims didn't really leave england to discover the new world. the first settlers did. the pilgrims came after first staying at the netherlands i think. but they came to virginia only after the first settlers were already in new england.
the first settlers weren't pilgrims just businessmen i should say. lol.
so no, i don't have my history upside down.


good to see were on the first page for the first time in history.
lol

islam won't be a problem if it's practiced personally.
christianity was the problem when masses were leaving england for religious freedom from strict christianity laws
christianity was also a problem when the puritans were holding their witch trials and what other horrible biblical laws they used to govern their society.

religion should be personal. when it interferes with how a govt is ruled, then that society will have problems. esp in todays world where many people of the same country are multi religious and the world is becoming "globalized"
the way one person practices a religion isn't the way



BBC news on turkey and please don't tell me to shut up.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/talking_point/3192647.stm

Because it was CLEARLY nothing to do with religion but politics!

thanks for agreeing with me.

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sometimes i wonder why nigeria has a different time zone.

is Hazara the group that is (/used to be) most discriminated against?

it looks kind of strange on white people. lol
but that was the least ugly one i found on google.
i couldn't find black people.

i'm a woman rights advocate
plus, it doesn't really serve any real useful purpose in today's society.
i think there's a thread about it

anyways, back to topic.

Tiptronic:
Wesleyan,

I myself am from Afghanistan. Truth be told, I don't know a great deal about Nigeria, but I always thought it was pretty much 50/50 Muslim/Christian, with the north/south divide. So there are also enclaves of Muslims down south then?

the 50/50, north/south divide is pretty accurate but a simplified version.

let's just say that there are three major ethnic groups in Nigeria: Hausa (muslim), Igbo (christian) and Yoruba (christian and muslim mix)
hausas live in the north while yorubas and igbos stay in the south.
so, while the north is muslim, the south has a mixture of muslims and christians with mostly christians. the southern muslims are usually yoruba.
i think this explains why christians and muslims get along in the south: they are from the same ethnic group/ have more in common.

the religious (north vs south) clash in nigeria might as well have some ethnic (igbo vs hausa) undertones to it. hmm i never thought about this. lol

how is it in Afghanistan? are there different ethnic groups also?
i read Kite Runner. the author is from Afghanistan so i picked up some things about Afghanistan culture/ society from it but i've forgotten most of the story now. lol

it's cute on most people
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Tiptronic:
WesleyanA, I have only joined now, so I haven't yet familiarised myself with the workings of the forum. I must confess I'm not Nigerian, but one particular friend of mine (a Christian no less) is Nigerian and is such a nice person. Words fail me, but he has never said I word to hurt anyone, even if it be in jest. I generally find the very few Nigerians I have met to be extremely pleasant people. I suppose I just get on well with Africans in real life. It just clicks.

where i lived in Nigeria, lagos to be exact, christians and muslims got along very well. I grew up with them and was best friends with some of them.
many Nigerians definitely are very pleasant people.
where are you from?

i don't think that most Nairaland users or nigerians have problems with muslims in general
It's just that the muslim haters are usually the loud ones. *cough* davidylan *cough* joking
plus the whole terrorism/ iraq war issue has given a bad reputation to muslims throughout the globe. which i think is unfair.

davidylan:
More vague tripe out of ignorance. Are we the ones "blaming all the bad on religion"? Hamas openly advocates an islamic state, suicide bombers and terrorists shout "allahu akbar" when they carry out their nefarious activities and Osama bn Laden bases his ideology on the quran!

you're only just repeating my point.
apparently, if one's political ideology is based on the quran then your political blunders will also be blamed on the quran.
also, the middle east wouldn't be comprised of islamic states if somebody or some "body" didn't advocate it. obviously.

What of Nigeria where there is a clear constitutional separation of church and state? Why is it no different from the islamic republic of Iran?

there is no really clear constitutional separation of church and state in Nigeria.
there is the sharia law and a sharia police in the north. religion clearly controls the states societal laws etc. and not a secular govt.


Turkey is the only islam country i know that has a clearly secular govt. If only the muslim countries in the middle east can secularize their governments.

well that sucks

lmao.
just because one muslim commited suicide, she's asking if all muslims are ready to commit suicide. that really was stupid. lol


Tiptronic, all the hate words i've seen on this site targeted against muslims is not even funny anymore. how do you feel about it? 'cause i'm sure i'll feel bad if i was muslim. i'm not even muslim and i still feel bad that it's happening.

Seun's 25 today!!!!!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!
we love you, admin. lol i wish you many more years to come

babyosisi:
he might as well show up with 4 wives when he's required to have the first "ladies" with him.

he can't leave 3 of the "cultures" at home and fly with one.

how many wives does he even have?

polygamy is definitely a bad part of African culture that should be eliminated.



our clothing on the other hand, i'm proud if it.
anyways, yar'adua's agbada is still fly

does this mean that we're disqualified?

well that's because here where i live, there's a separation between the church and state.
we all know what it was like in the old testament where the societal laws were "directly from God." that's what sharia law reminds me of.

there isn't a line separating religion and politics/govt in the middle east. that's why all the bad gets blamed on the religion. some people will never understand that i'm sure.

fabulosboy:
moslems wont stop blowin up tins until they blow up d whole earth.
i hate them 4 that
but there are still some good moslems

hey!! davidylan also hates muslims. you got yourself some company.

if your christian, remember "love your neighbor as yourself."
and make sure to approach life with an open mind.

[quote author=n-guage link=topic=38130.msg1296894#msg1296894 date=1184623422]your profile says Naija. 17? college? just asking.[/quote]yeah my profile says naija but i'm not there anymore. i'm 17 and a college freshman though.
are you in college too?

as much as I dislike sharia, as i believe that religion should be a personal choice, you guys are (intentionally) misinterpreting the article.

mazaje:
The guys action should not be blamed on islam, if islam is to blame for the guys actions then christianity should also be blamed for reverend Kings(the pastor that roasted some members of his church) actions too.

thank you!

tboy1:
@ davidylan

Shut up.

We all know you have a problem with Islam . Here is a thread you started your damn self

I hate muslims even though i shouldn't https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-61555.0.html

lmao

IDINRETE:
i have stated the problem i have of his inability to memorise the quran. i don't know what problems you are talking about.
you can continue to rant as you wish.

ok. i see your point then.
my point was: the guy was having problems when he did what he did. the article said he was a lonely orphan and had no relatives etc
no sane/normal Muslim will commit suicide because they can't memorize the books of the Koran.

no normal muslim will try to undertake that task in the first place unless they were in a strange situation/ problem (ex. Malcolm X trying to memorize the dictionary because he was in prison etc.)

i hope you see my point.

IDINRETE:
don't direct your vitriolic attack and your name calling to me better still you can direct your anger to the publisher of the news. Yes, im surprised that he committed suicide for the reason of his inability to memorise the koran that is why I asked the question if muslims are ready to commit suicide for inability to memorise the koran. do I owe you an apology methinks NOT!

that man doesn't represent the entire population of muslims in the globe. he represents himself and no one else.
there are thousands of muslims who don't know the koran from head to toe that will ever think of commiting suicide (but you wouldn't know that 'cause you have problems)
if a nigerian is 419 doesn't mean you'll go asking "nigerians, are you ready to dupe me"
it is with this same mentality that ignorant people have that lead them to believe that all nigerians are robbers or that all blacks are criminals or that all muslims are suicidal or whatever other prejudices people have against other people who are different from them.

the man said he commited suicide mainly because he was an orphan.
why aren't you asking "ORPHANS ARE YOU READY TO COMMIT SUICIDE?"
that comment will be offensive to orphans and it's the same logic with muslims.

i certainly am not asking you for an apology. hell no.
i'm christian not muslim. but your post really is offensive to many muslims (i have muslim friends and i grew up around christians as well as muslims)

Yes, im surprised that he committed suicide for the reason of his inability to memorise the koran that is why I asked the question

either you're lying or you need to go take a psychology class or both.
the guy who shot several students and himself at Virginia tech did it because he didn't like "rich people" apart from the fact that he was depressed and lonely.
and why aren't you admitting that the muslim guy killed himself mainly because he was an orphan and lonely.(imagine, no relatives to claim his body etc doesn't that ring any bell to your mind that the guy must have been depressed?)

do you actually go about wondering if muslims are ready to commit suicide? strange people that walk the earth nowadays.

the guy said the main reason he tried to commit suicide was because he was an orphan and had no relatives. the police couldn't even trace people to take his body and had to bury him (many people including the Virginia tech guy commit suicide for this exact reason -loneliness)
he cited memorizing the koran as a secondary reason. the reason he probably undertook this ordeal was 'cause he was lonely and had nowhere to turn to.
you don't see too many people trying to memorize religious books, whether bible or koran.

the other thread on this exact same topic: "muslims, are you ready to commit suicide?" was offensive to muslims.

IDINRETE:
He said[b] Maidawa had told police detectives on his hospital bed that he decided to take his life because he was "an orphan". [/b]

The commissioner said the deceased also cited his inability to memorise the Holy Quran as another reason for his action.

He said the police were unable to Btrace Maidawa's relations, and that he had been given a befitting burial on Thursday by the district head of Bagudo.

you're stupid. the lonely orphan has no family, friends whatsoever. nobody was there with him throughout his life and you are surprised that he commited suicide. plus, memorizing the koran was cited as a secondary reason. did anyone asked him why he was trying to memorize the koran?

this topic is offensive to muslims IMO. asking them if they're ready to commit suicide just because a depressed guy did.

well i just heard about a christian guy who took his life 'cause he was lonely/ had no friends. i don't really know to what extent he was religious but his memorial was a couple of months ago

anyways, did this guy leave a suicide note or something? what's the source to this news?
people should have recognized signs etc before he took his life.


thank God the guy who shot kids at Virginia Tech wasn't Muslim. apparently, he did it because he was depressed.
if he were muslim, depression/ frustration doesn't count. lol it's his nasty religion that forced him to do it.

sometimes i wonder if people are unconsciously prejudiced.

debosky:
how is it an assumption? they said the man had failed woefully to learn the Koran after 8 tortuous years, that is enough cause for suicide if you ask me,

i was referring to the person who said "this is what the koran is doing to people"
'cause the koran definitely doesn't say "kill yourself if you can't memorize me in 8 years"

it is very shameful to undergo such studies and fail, especially for a hard core northern muslim. its like an aspiring chemist not being able to recognise elements of the periodic table after 8 years of study -

so you're telling me that if given a time frame of 8 years, you'll be able to memorize the bible from the first verse of genesis to the last verse of revelation?
keep in mind you're an ordinary human not an einstein clone.
can your pastor do this?

you can't compare this ordeal to chemist recognizing elements. that's a task they teach to middle school kids.

utter failure and frustration drive people to extreme ends.

feeling of utter failure and frustration drive people to extreme ends.

there are some people who have it realllly bad and don't commit suicide because they feel optimistic, encouraged etc
and there are those that have it good (or at least it seems like it to onlookers) but they commit suicide 'cause they feel like a failure.

OMG people commit suicide all the freaking time.
why do you guys have to assume that his religion caused him to commit suicide?
people do it 'cause life disappoint them etc
(the guy was most likely lonely and had no life or probably having problems, like most people who commit suicide.)
even if he succeeded in learning the koran, it will probably have led him to take on another quest that was impossible for him to achieve. probably was just looking for some meaning to life. poor soul.
i grief for his family. if they had noticed early signs of depression in their kid. lol

i actually just heard about a suicide case. and the guy involved was christian. they just recently had his memorial.

Esss:
This is the problem with religion in general. Every religion has its ups and downs. Muslims flying planes into buildings, setting themselves ablaze, "sharia"ing themselves, e.t.c. Christians gathering themselves together in a room and poisoning themselves, selling off their properties in anticipation of the second coming of Jesus, e.t.c, Juju/idol worshipers sacrificing animals and humans to appease a deity, subjecting themselves to inhuman conditions/treatments in a bid to be favored by the gods e.t.c.

If islam should be eradicated, then so should all other religions.

thank you!!!
actually reminds me of the pastor in the 70s i think that led a revival and poisoned and killed the hundreds of people that followed him on the revival including himself.