₦airaland Forum

GabrielYulaw:
A slow but steady descent into chaos. That's what I'm seeing with this our country. More and more the government is losing control and every day we are less safe, more stressed, more hungry and more desperate.

Everyday new threats emerge and the security agencies are stretched even more thinner. Their focus these days seem to be on containment, but it's looking like they will soon be overwhelmed.

This is not gonna be pretty.

What would you advise?

And the same should be done with school abductions, it is only because those who carried out the first set of abductions lived to tell the tales that is why it has been recurring.

Government should attempt to negotiate the release of the students, then make sure they kill all those involved immediately after.

An example of how a response to the attack on the rail line should be is to launch a thorough investigation to determine the particular camp that carried out the attack but while at that, most of the countries operational attack aircrafts, artilleries and other long distance weapons that have wide area effects should be deployed to attack all known terrorists and bandits camps across the country to let them know that there are certain lines that should never be crossed and if they do, not even a million human shields will save them.
Even animals understand messages passed with violence.

Faithful007:
The reason behind the restrictions on the use of the Tucano's is because of the nature of the current North-West Crisis. "Bandits" take many civilians hostage and live among civilians as well. The Nigerian government in desperation, has adopted a ruthless approach of effective but indiscriminate airstrikes, leading to substantial civilian casualties which may not make the news.

Also, some government officials even suggest an end to payment of ransom, so airstrikes would be conducted, whether civilians are held hostage or not. This would be in direct contravention of the US Foreign Policy. More specifically, Section 502B of the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961, as amended in 1978: "No security assistance may be provided to any country the government of which engages in a consistent pattern of gross violations of internationally recognized human rights."

So hope you guys get it, it's not about designation. Peace out.

How else is the military supposed to take out these bandits? They always have human shields at every time.

The US military is also a gross violator of human rights. Many of their allies are also gross violators of human rights. It is pure politics.
War is ugly, especially when you are fighting people who are not subjected to any moral codes or laws made by man or God.

jl115 and lurker4long, by now you should know that some people do what they do just for banter while others do because of their insecurities and it makes them feel less disappointed. You honestly shouldn't be picking fights with such people unless of course for banter's sake.

What's the purpose of the argument again? Why can't you just agree to disagree, only one statement can be the truth, just have it in mind that the other person is simply misinformed and move on rather than descend to this level.

DubaiLandLord:
https://gazettengr.com/nigerian-air-force-pays-bandits-n20-million-to-avoid-shooting-down-buharis-plane/

I couldn't believe this news after seeing it on Nairaland politics section, I thought it was even a fake news... I'm shock other news media carry am after making a little research

Consider it a cover up for another negotiation they do not want anyone to know about.

There was a time an helicopter UAV was included in the budget for the military (I think it was the Army) not really sure of when but I'm sure it was posted here. Does anyone have any info on it?

youghs:
The thing here is that we need to be using atleast one or two helicopters when conducting clearance of camps. These guys quickly runaway in huge number with alot of weapons when attacked in their camps, the helicopters are the assets that can be used to inflict maximum damage which would destroy the equipment they are moving with and eliminate the escaping bastards. if helicopters are dedicated for mowing down fleeing bastards then we will start recording high number of enemy kills.

Our helicopters should be modified with RCWS 20mm or 23mm cannon on the door which gives the door gunners better accuracy to mow down the bastards running away. 4000 rounds on one helicopter should be able to hit atleast 400 targets. With this kind of strategy, we may be able to record more than 3000 kills in a day.

They don't flee when the Army is about to get to their camps, they clear the camps way ahead of the offensive. They only need to know where the offensive will begin and they start clearing out ahead of it. The only solution is to send in the helicopters along with fixed wing aircrafts to mow them down after the aircrafts might have destroyed the threats around the camps but then there are many who are held against their will in those camps, many innocent civilians.
Another alternative is to start the offensive at the same time from different angles. Maybe Chad and Cameroon will join early this time around, as for Niger, I have little hope.

While I'm in support of a sustained offensive, one thing we should take note of is that the enemies won't simply stand still while they are getting killed. They will definitely find a solution. They will always adapt to many of their challenges. There is a reason they no longer attempt to hold the towns/settlements they capture. Often times they simply return to civilian life whenever an offensive is launched or temporarily move to other favorable locations. This was why the Army was able to clear huge swathes of land in operation turai taka bango late last year. JAS simply returned after the operation though very weakened which eventually led to their defeat in the hand of ISWAP, if they had had more time, they would have become as strong as they used to be before the offensive. In the northwest, many of the bandits moved their camps when the military went after them. The military could also carpet bomb the terrorists to kill them in huge numbers but the civilian casualty will be too high and will end up becoming unproductive.

SamuelAnyawu:
Artillery Ringing.

I hope it’s all well in Sambisa

The plan is to use airstrike and artilleries to soften the enemy's defenses before the infantry roll out then the airforce will focus more on CAS. It may or may not be related to what is happening in Slmbisa though.

How about naval dockyard limited look into building ships/boats for the civilian market for capacity building. Maybe bring in a few investors, upgrade facilities and equipments etc with the long term goal being to increase capacity to a level where they can roll out the likes of SDB 3 and larger ships within 4-5 months. SDB 3 took a long time and going this route could really help.

Especially when you consider that it is SFs that will lead the attack for the offensive, it would be wise of the terrorists to attempt to distabilize the SF battalions so as to delay and weaken the offensive.

Xbee007:
The fact that they were able to gain entrance into the base is truly embarrassing. Will Nigeria Army ever learn from mistakes?!

I do not think they gained access into the base.

It was reported that the terrorists attacked with 4 MRAPs and 10 guntrucks. They initially disguised as an NA fighting patrol, shot at the CO of the base who went to meet them but missed, his adjutant was shot though before the situation was turned around. The terrorists escaped with the MRAPs though. The airforce should make it high priority to search for and destroy those guntrucks else, they will be used against another base qbd and it might be catastrophic this time around.

Others are reporting 1 MRAP Sha.

[quote author=mekussa post=106691063][/quote]Nigeria isn't going to win either way, but making sure Niger is also threatened should force them to negotiate. Imagine after borrowing huge amount to build the dam, we threaten to render it useless.

DubaiLandLord2:
The only reason the dam have not been completed since 2013 is financial reason.

But is now been built by the Chinese and will be completed by 2025.

Bullying can't work.

Niger damming the river won't really have much effect in Nigeria, the loss is estimated to be at most at 10% of the current value, it could be as low as 3%.
And bullying can very much work if Nigeria decides to woo and fund Guinea or Mali into damming the river within their territory.

So ISWAP attacked special forces camp at Ngamdu today, it was a crushing defeat for them.

Stormtrooper11:
Now, an Autoloader stores ammunition in the Turret rack. Any penetration of explosive, then the Tank will explode due to the stored ammunition. There will be a jack-in-the-box effect. I learnt Autoloader break down in battle and can't change shell types between shots.

It still feels weird, because the usage of autoloaders is supposed to be an advantage and advancement in tank Warfare.

APS in most new tanks significantly reduce the chances of getting hit and by extension penetration. Autoloader also increases firing rate by a lot giving the tank the ability to quickly take out the enemies before being hit.
But if the tank will be facing tanks with superior armor, it will be okay to go for manual loader.

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Meanwhile, some minor successes worth celebrating across the northeast and northwest, reports has it that bandits are now demanding for cooked foods as ransom. Some notorious bandits were neutralized recently. ISWAP attempted to attack Bama again, they were defeated. A few weeks ago, they attempted to attack Maiduguri from different sides too, they were chased before they even managed to get close to the city.

Whyem15:
Not too long ago, I posted a video in relation to land radars used by the army, in the video, the army showed something that looked like a prototype of a modular vehicle, thought someone else would have noticed it and brought it up for discussion, would love to know the status of the program.

Start from 8:39


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-D0YZ00EHE

Not too long ago, I posted a video in relation to land radars used by the army, in the video, the army showed something that looked like a prototype of a modular vehicle, thought someone else would have noticed it and brought it up for discussion, would love to know the status of the program.

Stormtrooper11:
Wow. Last course,over 700 cadets graduated. This course, we're seeing only 260. Were they dismissed?

And I thought Sarham was wicked

The army could do with extra discipline though, especially with depot products.

It is the proper use of air power that has denied the enemy the ability to capture and hold settlements the military is interested in keeping them away from, they learnt no matter the quantity and quality of their force within any town they capture, they will eventually be defeated and pushed out. This has stopped them from achieving their objective of expanding their caliphate to these settlements and that was why they insisted opted to expand to JAS territory this year. Replicating that on the land will also have a significant impact on the war.

lionel4power:
My two cents on the IFV matter.

From the little I understand, acquiring any type of IFV in large or small numbers may or may not alter the direction of the conflict if this dynamics is not addressed.

It is not just about buying weapon A, Asset B, or platform C if they are not integrated with the overall stated defence architecture.

What do I mean by this? What place does an IFV have in the NA's Order of Battle? What would it's role be? How does it interact with other systems in is inventory?

This is year 2021, armies buy systems and not just weapons.

Even if the NA buys 1000 IFVs, if there's no clear mission for it, or proper support framework it will fail.

For instance, Boko Haram and ISWAP doesn't operate MBTs, yet the NA have hundreds of MBTs, what is the impact of those MBTs on the battlefield? It will be difficult to access it's impact because they may not be part of an overall defense architecture.

What I'm saying in essence is that modern armies don't view individual weapons as a standalone asset but as a system of systems. A component in the overall system of war.

For instance, the United States military views each platform as a "sensor and shooter" under it's novel distributed lethality concept.

What this means is that every single item in it's inventory can detect enemy disposition, and it or another item can project sufficient firepower to destroy the said enemy during a time of war. For example, a transport aircraft detects ISWAP movement, and relay the information to an artillery or even an MBT to expedite the terror threat.

I wrote about this comprehensively in 2019 for Divergent Options you can Google it. I even wrote how Nigeria can emulate such.

Basically, every individual platform is part of a network and information is relayed to each platform instantaneously using robust and encrypted datalinks.

In today's warfare, just buying disparate platforms may not guarantee that you'll win. The Nigerian Army has 1000x more weapons than ISWAP yet the war hasn't end.

Until the concept of modern warfare is understood, victory may be hard.

While this is useful in the wider context of counter-insurgency, the discussion on IFVs VS MRAPs is about battlefield effectiveness, all that the men in the frontlines care about is how to defeat the enemy while taking very minimal losses in return, all that they want is battlefield superiority. Yes intelligence, logistics, morale and all these other components of warfare matters a lot and are very helpful in winning the war but they don't negate the need for superiority on the battlefield. In fact battlefield superiority is the most important,the others are just force multipliers.
I could also argue that not paying attention to non-kinetic approaches to winning the war will result in moving round a circle.
I myself have discussed the advantages of using artilleries against the enemy after gathering intelligence on their location in this forum, many have discussed the need for proper intelligence gathering to help ftontline troops too.
US with all you mentioned above failed and is still failing in several theaters across the world.
Popular mobilization forces in Iraq without these were very effective in defeating ISIS in Iraq.
The IFV will serve as the teeth of NA's fighting force, it will comfortably take out the backbone of the enemy's fighting force, it will assist in dominating the battlefield if properly utilized. That is the role it will serve.
The NA is also not new to mechanized infantry, in fact two of the NA's 8 divisions are mechanized divisions. It is lack of funding and neglect for several years that has rendered them almost incompetent.
My point exactly is that, the need for all you mentioned doesn't disturb the need/want of IFVs. They are not mutually exclusive.

JohnEagle96:
I would want army, navy and airforce to go for a definite IFV ,for offensive operations, IFV can accommodate varieties of weapons platforms such as machine guns, anti -tank , grenade launchers, etc. It will be a force multiplier in offensive operations coupled with the troop transport capabilities.
The BMP Terminator comes in this aspect, especially NA should get this in large numbers for the next offensive operations.
The amphibious version of the IFV should be considered as also for the NAVY SBS in lake Chad

The Terminator isn't an IFV per se, it was designed to support and plug the weaknesses of tanks. It will serve the function of an IFV comfortable but it seems like an overkill when you factor in limited finances.

The airforce has purchased a fit for purpose aircraft in the firm of the Tucano, we shouldn't get too comfortable with the airforce and navy assisting the army to the extent they start purchasing their land systems while they still have their own capability gaps to fill.

Between MRAPs and IFVs, which should be the NA's priority and why?

I know both are very important but faced with limited funds, which would you rather the NA prioritize?

dragon2:
How do you feed,house and arm 17,000 soldiers without your logistics being targeted?

The most likely answer is that most of them aren't active fighters, they are currently living civilian lifestyle and fending for themselves, the active fighters are spread out across a huge geographical area in various cells, the cells are given monthly stipends for the welfare of their members, so a large logistic line/facility isn't needed.

SamuelAnyawu:
ISWAP alone? Or Bokoharam in General.

Are we including children fighters undergoing training too with them?

Should we include youths under their territory not actively participating?

All these will assist in computing figures.

All these will definitely be included. They are fighting manpower that be mobilized.


The guy mentioned ISWAP

JOSCOFELIX:
pure lies iswap is not up to that amount . Many of this people increase figure to justify their though

What is your own estimate and why do you think there numbers isn't up to the amount quoted.

A credible source on Twitter gave the number of ISWAP fighters to be as high as 17,000.

In my own opinion, unless most of them are part-time fighters(more of civilians than fighters) we would have seen very large scale attacks on NA formation in the North East. We would have seen larger aggregation of the terrorists too which would have made it easier for the airforce to inflict a lot more damage on them. None of their propaganda videos has also indicated this.



Or maybe the bulk of their fighting force is made up of child soldiers. Especially with the way they force children and adolescents to join them. Consider reading the article written by Abbakar to know more about this.

https://fij.ng/article/i-did-it-to-survive-confessions-of-a-14-year-old-boko-haram-recruit-just-before-his-death/