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Foreign Affairs / Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Whyem15: 8:49am On Feb 04, 2022 |
Was checking the pictures from exercise camp highland and noticed that Bofors 40mm antiaircaft autocannon and Oerlikon GDF 35mm twin cannon featured in the exercise. I wonder why the army has not used these platforms to defend important garrisoned towns in the northeast. The Oerlikon GDF twin cannon has an effective range of 4000m and a rate of fire of 550 rounds per minute for each cannon. The Bofors 40mm antiaircaft autocannon has a maximum range of 12,500m with a rate of fire between 240-330 rounds per minute. Although these guns are primarily designed for air-defence, they can very easily be used to take out terrorists and their guntrucks. The high explosive incendiary rounds can be used to take out guntrucks and armored vehicles while the AHEAD or ATOM round can be used for anti-personel purposes, releasing hundreds of heavy tungsten metal sub-projectiles that can take out multiple terrorist massed together. It even gets better knowing that there has been several fire contol upgrades to these systems aimed at improving accuracy and range. Placing a few units of this in such towns on an elevated platform that will allow a clear line of sight to a few kilometers outside of the town will serve to deter the terrorists from attacking such towns/bases. The only problem is that it must not get into the hands of the terrorists, it will tilt the balance of power greatly and will further increase the insecurity in the region, low flying aircrafts will be at risk and air operations will have to be reduced or we will have to spend more to destroy these platforms immediately they get captured by the terrorists. A better way of avoiding them being captured is to arm the operating team with explosives to destroy the weapons if they have to retreat. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSp7CipN1pw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8PZiCtuSqk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfv_VgGp_u4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykRjpdzgBXU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccOJm5bDnR0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DByK0cBcxlM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcjtdz55U3w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxkSpvC0svo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgdWNryUhr0 Using more of weapons like this will also reduce the use of armored vehicles and other AFVs for defensive purposes and increase the quantity of such vehicles available for offensive missions and patrols. 5 Likes
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Foreign Affairs / Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Whyem15: 7:29pm On Jan 17, 2022 |
Rich4god: You know what all these require? Money and time! The weapons we paid for in 2018 are only just getting delivered now, many have still not been delivered. It takes time and money to train and equip more troops etc. The military is only just starting to get back the capabilities lost decades ago, it takes time and lots of money. The military can't perform magic with the peanut allocation they get yearly, maybe when the whole country sees the insecurity as an emergency and gives the military all the resources they require, we will see results. The CAS and CNS were begging the National assembly late last year to increase the amount allocated to them. The airforce had its share of the supplementary budget cut from $800 million to $400 million. War is expensive, you either expend money or you expend lives, Ethiopia learnt that lesson the hard way, it wasn't until the capital was under threat that they started understanding the magnitude of the risks and they went on a desperate spending spree to equip their military. The Nigerian people and government do not take the war against insecurity as serious as they should. 8 Likes |
Foreign Affairs / Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Whyem15: 6:34pm On Jan 16, 2022 |
The military's information gag is also not helping matters, if DHQ had continued releasing those airstrike footages, many of these narratives won't be existing. |
Foreign Affairs / Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Whyem15: 6:28pm On Jan 16, 2022 |
SamuelAnyawu: I'm very sure your friend was debriefed after his release by military intelligence? The several thousands of refugees, terrorists and their families surrendering would have also been questioned in like manner as you yourself have attested to on this forum. The airforce also has ISR aircrafts that it uses to gather Intel on the terrorists. They would have gathered a lot of intelligence many of which have little to no tactical or strategic implications. These intels are prioritized based on the aims and objectives of the counterinsurgency operations. At some point, the NAF was targeting their logistics and supply routes, the new service chiefs seem to favor going after their leadership and large gathering of the terrorists and we've been seeing the results with several headlines reporting the deaths of leaders of bandits and terrorists alike. Just two weeks ago, it was the death of a very important bandit leader due to NAF airstrikes that was reported. The Airforce has not flown over 40000 combat and combat support hours within six years with very limited aircrafts for fun. Maybe when they have more aircrafts to spare(probably with the induction of more UAVs) , they will go after other less important targets. As for the speedboats you mentioned, I remember reading an article sometimes last year regarding the military seizing a shipment of boat engines belonging to ISWAP. I cannot find the link to the article right now but this might be related to it. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://saharareporters.com/2021/07/01/nigerian-army-arrests-iswap-terrorist-ogun&ved=2ahUKEwi509Gm4rb1AhUb7eAKHc36AgoQFnoECAwQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2h0w-VNnPSk2MFTB-y3nUq There are several other ways the military can stifle the repair and maintenance of operations of the terrorists other than full military assault including preventing the movement of oxyacetylene gas and welding rods used in joining and cutting of metals and so on. There are several other very obvious materials that are crucial to the successes of the terrorists that the military can limit access to. Obviously, the military can and should do better but we also need to recognize the efforts they've made. 3 Likes |
Foreign Affairs / Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Whyem15: 6:50pm On Jan 12, 2022 |
Lurker4Long: The last time NAF mentioned the Alpha jet that crashed in Borno, they were still searching for it. As for the second aircraft, are you referring to the one that was shot down in the northwest? The pilot was rescued and he would have provided the details of the event, there has been no statement suggesting NAF is searching for the crashed site. 3 Likes |
Foreign Affairs / Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Whyem15: 7:59am On Jan 06, 2022 |
bidexiii: While MRAPs are designed to take the hit from mines and IEDs, we can reduce the number of MRAP loses by installing ground penetrating radars and metal detectors on a few of the MRAPs that will lead the convoy. That MRAP will never be able to protect anyone from mines again, a lot of its engineering has also been distorted by the force of the explosion. It may be repaired and sent to the regions with less IED threats but it will only be a source of headaches. It will be more reasonable to canibalize it for parts and components. 10 Likes |
Foreign Affairs / Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Whyem15: 5:09pm On Jan 05, 2022 |
jpphilips: No military system is perfect and that is why they are regularly upgraded to improve their effectiveness. CIWS are defeated by speed and the use of dummy targets. They are also succeptible to jamming. |
Foreign Affairs / Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Whyem15: 10:04am On Jan 05, 2022 |
ecomog1990: The terrorists will take out the IFV-MRAP with IEDs or direct artillery fire, maybe a recoiless riffle too and the troops in the soft skins will be used for target practice. While RCWS will confer a lot of advantages over the terrorists, protected mobility is more urgently needed in the frontlines. There is nothing the RCWS has to offer that the ST1s and the modern tanks already in the frontlines are not offering and even more. If the target is too small or too lightly amoured to be taken out by the turrets main gun, the coaxial 7.62mm or the RWS 12.7mm mounted on the roof of the turret will take care of it. I will rather prefer a fighting column of MRAPs/APCs with one or two ST1 tank destroyers. In the event that the ST1 get destroyed, the column would still have a fighting chance. All that is needed is just to buy a few more ST1s and VT4s alongside the MRAPs/APCs we are buying in large quantities. When the need for protected mobility has been satisfied, it will take little time and effort to upgrade the MRAPs and APCs and fix RWS on them. That is what optimization is and I believe that is what the military is currently doing. The ST1 tank destroyers, VT4 tanks and the other systems are multiple purpose and can serve in different battle situations. It is only prudent that we go for multi-role platforms now before dedicated platforms especially as we are faced with limited resources. We just have to optimize. 2 Likes |
Foreign Affairs / Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Whyem15: 12:35pm On Jan 04, 2022 |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OqmoHBvB0c As with every system, RCWS isn't without it's weak points and blindspot, but with improvement in the development of fire control systems, RCWS are increasingly becoming autonomous requiring very little human input to achieve insane precision and effectiveness. Terrain is also a major headache in air warfare, aircrafts hide behind mountains and other highlands to defeat air defense radars, terrorists use caves and tunnels to evade air attacks. And even when the enemy is using geigraphy/terrain for cover, the vehicle on which the RCWS is installed can simply be moved to a position where a clear line of sight is achievable. Trees and houses are fixed structures and have different physical and chemical properties from normal battlefield targets and as such will be captured differently by the sensors. If thermal sensors doesn't detect the differences, motion sensors or any of the other sensors included in the fire control systems will. I did not claim that RCWS is perfect, only that it confers several advantages over manual turrets and gunners. 5 Likes |
Foreign Affairs / Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Whyem15: 1:13pm On Dec 28, 2021 |
keep2silent: He should take the evidence to the press if such truly exists, posting the "gist" on nairaland or anywhere else causes more harm than good and I hope that young admin staff will be willing to testify in your support if it comes to that because I wonder what's in it for the manufacturer that they will donate 1300 of such to a country without receiving anything in return. 2 Likes |
Foreign Affairs / Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Whyem15: 10:55am On Dec 28, 2021 |
RiceProducers: RCWS on land systems are relatively new concepts and most armies are just fielding it as such it will be very difficult to find the type of videos you are asking for. But theoretically, it is a fact that RCWS are designed for precision and efficiency. I will search YouTube for the video, if I find, I will post and if I don't, the absence of such video evidence does not prove or disprove anything other than the fact that it hasn't been recorded in battle. Mind you, the navy and airforce has been operating forms of RCWS for years and there are several videos of it's effectiveness. 2 Likes |
Foreign Affairs / Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Whyem15: 10:49am On Dec 28, 2021 |
As for me, my scale of preference is as follows; 1)Several hundreds APCs/MRAPs(tracked and wheeled) but the modular type that can be upgraded in batches into more dedicated platforms later in future when the money is available. Something sort of what Algeria is doing with the Nimr. Considering that SALWs and IEDs currently pose the greatest threats to our troops and will remain so for a long time, it is only natural that we invest in protected mobility first. 2) Tanks of various categories in proportion the army sees fit, this includes tank destroyers and assault guns. 3) artilleries both SPH and towed artilleries, motar tubes too(mortar carriers have been considered as an upgrade of APCs) 4) vehicles in other dedicated roles falls in this category, the army can start fine tuning its arsenal when they are done getting the basics. Many of the APCs and MRAPs can be upgraded into all sorts of AFVs when the need arises. 4 Likes |
Foreign Affairs / Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Whyem15: 9:36am On Dec 28, 2021 |
RiceProducers: On the boldened, I disagree with you, the precision RCWS brings ensures effective use of bullets in a way that you can hit the same spot over and over again until you've taken your target out compared to the Quantity of bullets that would have been fired in bursts by a manual gunner most of which would not even hit the target due to poor stability, recoil and limited accuracy of the gunner. The safety of the gunner is also another important thing that RCWS offer. Not to even talk about the thermal and night vision cameras and the various other sensors that are force multipliers that RCWS offers. RCWS is a force multiplier and the military should look into getting it when there is enough spare resources, while it is expensive to get and operate, it is cost efficient when you look at the advantages. But before you start considering getting force multipliers, you must first have a meaningful force and that has been the point of my discussion over time. . RCWS will greatly increase the effectiveness and accuracy of the army but we must first have a strong army as a foundation for it. There is no current threat that warrants the spending of huge sums on RCWS at the expense of protected mobility that is an emergency that platforms such as the VT-4 tanks and ST-1 combat vehicles can't take care of howbeit at increased costs and I'm not even talking about the RCWS that comes with these platforms. Also, it would be far more reasonable in terms of scale of preference and opportunity cost to buy more tanks and other multipurpose AFVs such as assault guns and tank destroyers that can serve the purpose of IFVs to some extent while providing other capabilities before going for dedicated platforms such as the IFVs. 2 Likes |
Foreign Affairs / Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Whyem15: 1:53pm On Dec 27, 2021 |
komekn: And if you don't have the money for the high pressure hose because all your money has to go into your feed and clothing, you would kill yourself? I'm not against the use of RCWS but there is something called scale of preference when faced with limited resources. For now, the opportunity cost of protected mobility is much more than that of RCWS. After the military has satisfied the need for protected mobility to a reasonable level, it will cost less than $50 million to upgrade all military vehicles and equip them with RCWS. For now, decreasing life threatening risks and increasing survivability of as much troops as possible is of utmost importance. I'm also not in support of using soft skin vehicles to transport troops in the frontline, however, I wonder how such used armored vehicles are still available in the market if they are as cost efficient as you make them seem. I wonder why other militaries haven't grabbed them from the market and why the country that originally used them abandoned them in the first instance. If they are indeed cost efficient and would not become a maintenance nightmare in a few years time, no problem, I'm in support of purchasing such but then, repairing and restoring the over 600 AFVs in the army's inventory most of which are just in need of new engines will be a wiser course of action. You should also know that the army isn't new to purchasing used military equipments. The T-72s, BMPs and BTRs were mostly gotten this way. They are also not strangers to purchasing equipments from original manufacturers with spares and maintenance and training of personnels on proper utilization of the equipments included. The military has experience in both and knows the side that benefits it the most. You should also note that the military's procurement isn't dictated by the insurgency alone but also future needs, they are not buying equipments that won't be relevant or useful a few years from now due to paucity of funds. You really think if the money is made available, they won't purchase in thousands equipments that they need and want? Each arm of the military goes cap in hand to the National assembly to beg for more funds every year and they still don't get the barest minimum that they need not to even talk about wants. As for the Tucanos, the airforce wanted a platform that can stay on the battlefield for as long as possible before needing to return to base, a platform that is cheap to operate and makes use of very cheap ammunitions to take out the enemy and they got it. If you know of any armed UAV that has all these 3, suggest it and let's talk about it. The airforce just doesn't have the money to kill a few terrorists in a guntruck with missiles costing several hundred thousands of dollars to as much as millions when there are other ammunitions that can do the same cheaply. Procurement in the Nigerian military is guided by needs, what is available in the market, what is realistically achievable for them and what is best. The army recently bought over 300 armored vehicles from different manufacturers, they could have gotten from just one manufacturer but they needed different classes(tracked/wheel, weight and sub components), and they wanted it within a time frame which one manufacturer wouldn't be able to realistically meet 12 Likes 1 Share |
Foreign Affairs / Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Whyem15: 10:38am On Dec 27, 2021 |
willybaby: Money is the problem, the army isn't new to RCWS, the VT4 and ST1 have RCWS. The cost of equipping a dongfeng with RCWS is enough to buy another dongfeng. For an army still moving around and fighting in hilux guntrucks, it will be a misplaced priority to go RCWS when most of your troops are still moving around in soft skins. Some RCWS in the market will pay for 2-3 light armored vehicles. 9 Likes |
Foreign Affairs / Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Whyem15: 10:15am On Dec 27, 2021 |
SamuelAnyawu: The airforce has done this a number of times in the past, using drones to trail terrorists back to their bases and destroying the bases especially when they've captured certain weapons the military isn't convenient with leaving to the terrorists. What are the limitations to this? 1) we don't have enough UAVs to spare every time terrorists attacks 2) The ammunitions used by the UAVs are just too expensive to use on not too important targets. Why waste missiles worth millions of dollars on a few their and their guntrucks when dumb bombs and rockets will do the same during air-interdiction? 3) if any other type of aircrafts is used to trail them and it is detected, the terrorist's convoy will simply split and move in different directions, the aircraft will have to decide on which to follow which might end up not being important. 4) majority of the aircrafts in the NAF's inventory can't stay in the air for more than an hour before having to return to base to refuel, the terrorist can conviniently out-wait the airforce. Only the Tucanos have longer flight time and most of it would have been expended in the actual battle. 5) If the army tries this, it might work out a few times before the terrorists start committing additional men and resources to protect their escape routes, they will employ IEDs and also ambush any troops that attempts to chase them. Alternatively, they will employ this as a strategy to capture military bases, they will give the troops in any base of target a bait that the military will need to employ some of its best weapons to chase in an attempt to effectively destroy, once the party giving chase has been effectively lured away from the base, the main attacking force of the terrorists moves in to capture the weakened base. Classic divide and conquer. Main gist is that you must never be predictable in war, when it is convenient for you and you are pretty confident of your strength, you may give chase, otherwise you in your base and be contented with what you've accomplished. Besides, it is expected that the terrorists will protect their escape route whenever they attack. No reasonable fighting force should attack an enemy without having a secured route through which they can retreat. Why do you have to chase though when you can take out majority of them in the actual battle by investing in reasonable weapons. Anti-material riffles, automatic grenade launchers, AFVs/tanks etc should take out most of the technicals at reasonable distances and at low cost. 20 Likes 1 Share |
Foreign Affairs / Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Whyem15: 7:57pm On Dec 24, 2021 |
With all the recent developments in the military, I pray there will be continuity with the coming of nmthe next government. 10-15 years of steady development of capacity and purchasing of equipment and there will be stability across the country. But it is important that the police force and other law enforcement agencies are not left out, else, all the efforts will amount to nothing. As for the airforce, I hope that they can have near 24/7 over watch of the entire country with satellites and drones within the next few years. This will require massive investment in the airforce. As for the navy, they've almost achieved their goal of coastal security, only a few more chokepoints to block off and they can control everything that enters and leaves the country. Then they can start focusing on being a true blue water navy. The army still has a long way to go, there might be a need for change in structure, trainings, and doctrines. Massive procurement of modern land systems, from heavy and light tanks to AFVs, ATVs, IFVs, UGVs, artilleries and mortars, amphibious vehicles, more APCs and MRAPs, more logistic vehicles, mine clearing vehicles, mine laying vehicles, radars, air defense systems, long range missile capabilities, engineering equipments, communications equipment etc having the capacity to be able to project unequaled force anywhere within the country. Having quick reaction teams to respond to security threats within short periods of time in every state and so on. The intelligence community should also look towards deepening intelligence gathering 9 Likes |
Foreign Affairs / Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Whyem15: 7:49pm On Dec 22, 2021 |
kabe1: As for the M-346, an official of the ministry of defense mentioned it in a documentary produced by the airforce, the airforce wouldn't include it if it wasn't true. 3 Likes |
Foreign Affairs / Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Whyem15: 3:10pm On Dec 11, 2021 |
SamuelAnyawu: That ISWAP did not even release the pictures and videos of the kidnapped police in their propaganda tells us about all we need to know about the "rescue". 5 Likes |
Foreign Affairs / Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Whyem15: 6:17am On Dec 10, 2021 |
SamuelAnyawu: Those people cannot depend on grants and aids all their lives. They need to be stimulated to earn their own living now that they've been resettled. If steps like this are not taken, 20 years from now many of them will still be dependent on aids. 7 Likes |
Foreign Affairs / Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Whyem15: 4:37pm On Dec 09, 2021 |
The Navy is building two ships simultaneously after delivering on the SDB 3. Great but they should also work on the time it takes from start to finish. |
Foreign Affairs / Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Whyem15: 10:09am On Dec 08, 2021 |
DubaiLandLord1: That was tear gas Sha. We should call out the police when they overstep but they were simply doing their duties here. 3 Likes |
Foreign Affairs / Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Whyem15: 8:34am On Dec 08, 2021 |
youghs: 100m is within engagement zone but at least it's better than nothing. 1 Like |
Foreign Affairs / Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Whyem15: 1:20pm On Dec 07, 2021 |
As at 2018/19, there were plans in place to find suitable engines for about 600 AFVs in the Nigerian army Armoury most of which are no longer being produced by their original manufacturers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-D0YZ00EHE Between 13:57 and 15:10 |
Foreign Affairs / Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Whyem15: 12:30pm On Dec 05, 2021 |
bidexiii: Welcome back, many of us where somewhat worried. 5 Likes |
Foreign Affairs / Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Whyem15: 2:24pm On Dec 04, 2021 |
shadowprimezero: It's good that they are now buying armored vehicles in large numbers, but buying from everyone and anyone in the market may cause huge problems for the NA in future. |
Foreign Affairs / Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Whyem15: 11:18pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
bestdefender: Thanks for quoting it, I meant south west it was a typographical error. It was in the south west we had several cases of armed robbery during the last lock down. Lagos, Ogun and Oyo states. Sorry for the error,it is southwest that has cultism crisis. 1 Like |
Foreign Affairs / Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Whyem15: 3:16pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
The crises in the northeast and northwest will be child's play compared to what will happen in the southwest when it eventually matures and that moment is very close. There is virtually no city or town without at least one cult group with thousands of members across the country. The young are not spared and it cut across all evolution classes. It is only a matter of time before something triggers them to become malignant. What am I even saying sef, they are already ady starting to map out territories in cities and towns. The chains of robbery attacks in many cities during last year's lock down was started by a group and taken up by self shortly after. This is far beyond the primordial and primary levels of prevention of conflicts, all that can be done now is to prevent from getting worse by engaging them at the community level and luring them away from violence and crimes. Organize sports among different communities with reasonable prizes, set up paramilitary and civil society organizations and recruit these youths at the community level with reasonable incentives to make them useful for their societies. Help as many a as possible unlock their abilities and talents so that they can be of benefit to themselves and lastly, take the war against hard drugs very seriously. Else, it only gets worse and worse 1 Like |
Foreign Affairs / Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Whyem15: 10:24am On Dec 01, 2021 |
kabe1: Proforce should be aggressively marketing the Viper MRAP more than ARA. Viper has the better prospects of seeing significant orders from other countries. Also, I would have expected to see them advertise their drone program here. 4 Likes |
Foreign Affairs / Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Whyem15: 10:10am On Dec 01, 2021 |
RiceProducers: Most APS are designed to protect tanks from maximum of 4 missiles. The engaging range of APS is so small that the shrapnels and debris of the missiles will still do significant damages to systems/devices outside the tank. After about 3-4 of such interception, even the APS sensors and radars would have been destroyed along with other important components outside the tank. Many APS can also be easily deceived, there is usually a slight period of inactivity (a fraction of a second) after intercepting one projectile and two projectiles launched in very quick succession will penetrate the defenses of the tank. The RPG-30 was designed with this in mind, one dummy projectile and the actual missile, the dummy projectile is usually launched a few milliseconds before the actual missile and when the APS intercepts the dummy projectile and is inactive, the real projectile hits. However, modern APS are being designed to greatly reduce this period of inactivity. 7 Likes |
Foreign Affairs / Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Whyem15: 8:53am On Nov 29, 2021 |
SamuelAnyawu: The. Things are getting better, it is only a matter of time before the military feels ready and is motivated enough to go after the terrorist. They are widening the capacity gap almost on daily basis. 1 Like |
Foreign Affairs / Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Whyem15: 8:38am On Nov 29, 2021 |
SamuelAnyawu: Is death rate from violent crimes increasing or decreasing? I would say the insecurity has shifted to the northwest and it is currently at its peak in the northwest. 1 Like |
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