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TheGoodJoe:
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Remains a mystery. Expecially, when you consider she took the money without appropriation and lied about itlor]

It is ESPECIALLY bro...

You & Oblang guy you quoted sef Nigeria and her educated folks smh

1)Plz whatever is above oil benchmark is saved in the UNCONSTITUTIONAL ECA account...

2) Increase in crude oil price connotes increase in landing cost which metamorphoses into increase in subsidy...

3)Crude oil price dialects between hours, minutes, seconds etc... unfortunately, budget can't be that flexible too...so whatever extra cost is incurred from those extra subsidy payments is cleared through ECA savings(a national burden the governors didn't want to partake in but wants FG to bear it alone)...And FG now goes out to cover these extra budgetary expenses through SUPPLEMENTARY budgets...

4)Why didn't these governors save theirs after allocation as Anambra state did?....FG saved hence we had SWF, ECA etc which were handed down to Buhari administration now...how much has Buhari saved given crude oil is selling above budget benchmark and there's no subsidy payment anymore

blueto thanks so much for your observation on how APC and cronies twisted Okonjo-Iweala words against Jonathan...such a sadistic bunch ...

koladebrainiac:
This is needless self from Amaechi
Did Oknjo iweala n Jonathan save from 50% oil revenue? The one that they have did Fg save from from it

If FG under Jonathan didn't save from the balance they had, how did what he handed over to buhari come about...from over $2.4billion in ECA to $billions in SWF etc...

StepTwo:
and what exactly did the governors do with their own share?


instead of pressurizing the Government to use it for something tangible you all asked for it to be shared so the mismanagement can be spread to state level as well.

What Amechi termed mismanagement of ECA by Jonathan, he confirmed by his statement that it was actually for fuel subsidy payment...

diadem10:
LOL!
Who measures the corruption rating? Only a stupid fellow wouldn't know the highest corruption was practised under Jonathan reign.. Just look at his wife account.. Was it Patience that became the president or Jonathan?

His governors and cronies even attest to the fact that the eediot man, Jonathan has no perchance for saving, hence, the looting and sharing of Nigeria revenue. So what are we talking about?

That said, it's like people like you often keep their head in the mud not to know the situation we were at the time Obj became the president compared to Jonathan reign.

I discuss, debate and argue with humans who have brains...you don't meet the criteria...bye

diadem10:
OBJ archived 10 times of what that failure, Jonathan ever achieved!

Did you know the amount of debt we incured before Obj became president? Did you know the amount of money that were stolen by abacha during his reign before Obj took over?

Yet we had as much reserves as possible at the time OBj left. He brought in several foreign investments, lobbied with many international countries/bodies that we owed debt and got our debt lessened as a result. He virtually reduced our debt to the minimum zero and increased our reserves only for Jonathan and his cronies to come in and started spending like it was their papa money.

Obj may have stolen some money for himself but he never allowed any stupid associate of his, to dip his stupid hand into the money bag with him unlike that eediot, Jonathan did. Every subordinate of Obj feared him like he was god and couldn't even try any trash with him unlike that eediot.

Jonathan is mostly at fault for the recession we're facing right now even though, the dullard Buhari is also culpable for his lack of initiative to make things better. Both of them are like figure heads with nothing upstairs!

You sound too frustrated to me... who's your father? I wanna know his achievements before I know who's the ediot as you said severally here between you, your family and Jonathan...

anonimi:
While we wait for him, let me share on corruption as measured by Transparency International, TI.





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I just read some folks here and I get too weak for this country...I didn't know how to start replying that diadem10 guy...and to think he's calling Jonathan and people names even in Ignorance and sheer hatred says alot... thanks jare

shellman:
If I may ask,"On what ground or parameters are you comparing OBJ with Jonathan? Is it on bare faced looting, is it of building reserves for Nigeriaor writing off of our external reserves or financial impunity " Pls, don't compare OBJ with Jonathan OBJ is a patriot: Jonathan is not OBJ is disciplined: Jonathan is not Both of them are not of the the same mould

1)Why not read up or goggle Nigeria's corruption rating under Obj and then under Jonathan...Am waiting for your result

2)On our reserves, goggle recurrent expenditure under both and drop your answers here for all to see...also goggle capital expenditure, budget implementation, mortality index, MDG goals performance, poverty index etc...also get balance of trade figures here...am waiting

3)Check out performance of democracy or democratic dividends like freedom of expression, political killings, free & credible elections etc... I am waiting for your results plzzz

Yes, those results will show who's a patriot and who's not...Am waiting plzzz

ogwumgbe:
FFK is 100% right but what he's proposing is an impossible task. Yoruba Muslims will always be a stumbling block because of their affiliation with the Northers. The best thing the west should do is to first separate the wheat from the chaff and build from that

It is not impossible... Believe me, if Tinubu with Aregbesola moves now, they will reluctantly but sheepishly follow suit... especially with serious media propaganda to back it up FFK even insulted them here by observing their servitude mentality notwithstanding Islam came 200years earlier to them before Northerners ...what a bunch !!!

ChessEnthusiast:
Are you guys these daft to realize that Gej had a reasonable number of votes from the SW? How does voting against him mean hatred or religious bias as your warped reasoning puts it. They voted him the first time, you didn't complain but he was voted out the second term based primarily on performance issues and you're screaming blue murder.
FYI: I visited newspaper stands every Saturday prior to the election, and then I knew it was over for Gej. This has nothing to do with hatred as you m0rons do put it.
You don't have to believe, just cry us a river.

ok...

Sheggy13:
It's an insult on OBJ to compare him GEJ in terms of performance. That's the dumbest claim to make that Obj couldn't do one-third of what Jonathan did. Most of the meaningful agencies and policies we enjoy till date in this country were a creation of Obj and I'm not even his fan or apologist.

Kindly write down here the achievements of OBJ between 1999-2003...Am waiting...so that we compare with Jonathan 2011-2015

President99:
Young chap, I am not Yoruba for umpteenth time! Whoever told u the above lies was probably hallucinating.
World hegemonic powers have acknowledged the successes of Nigerian military in recent times in decimating BH might, when did u hear of a suicide bomber last. PMB is doing his best, however as all human actions they r imperfections n skirmishes in some, which r not deliberate to siphon fund like Dasuki n Co did.
Kanu is jst a joker or better still a public gladiator, for that I wont say much about him, however seceding in a third world country takes more than airing a pseudo radio station disparaging whoever differs in opinion with u. Ojukwu had it all, by that I mean the military knowledge, the wisdom, the mindset, education wise, exposure & world hegemonic powers connection, but couldn't succeed. My dear who is Kanu? I guess ur profile speaks better than his. Must we all be driven by his whims and caprice. Lastly, Catalonia has been seeking secession b4 Biafra agitation started, but not way! Lately, Texas has appllied to withdraw from union but was equallly denied too.

ok

FastShipping:
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Trash.

Jonathan was a failure and thief. He should never have been allowed to run a school not to talk of a country. Jonathan was an hopeless president who almost let Boko haram took over the country. Jonathan let every tom d1ck and harry have access to national treasury with no question asked. If he didn't fail, we wouldn't have voted against him. We voted for him for his first term in office and voted against him for his second term in office because he failed in every aspect of governance.

ok...

FastShipping:
#1. I had to read this epistle twice to see verses from the Holy Bible because FFK doesn't write anything these days without quote from the Bible.

Op, are you sure this epistle was penned by FFK?

#2. I would have taken FFK serious if he had written this epistle about Yoruba realignment seriously before or during GEJ administration. GEJ lost an election and he has not stopped crying blue mother ever since. If Jonathan had done well, we wouldn't even consider voting for an illiterate, no nothing, bigoted, self centered, and inept of a president called Buhari.

FFK should go and sit down.

1)Read again, Bible quotes are up there ...

2)You didn't vote against Jonathan because of any performance related issue but pure hatred for his person based on ethnic cum religious bias ... otherwise tell me if Obasanjo achieved one third( 1/3) of what Jonathan achieved as president in his first term; yet he was massively voted & reelected for 2nd term by Yoruba folks...

Stop turning history and known facts upside down biko

seunmsg:
There is really no argument about who nominated the vice president. The slot was conceded to Tinubu who couldn't contest due to the need for a religiously balanced ticket. He nominated Osinbajo in his place and most reasonable Nigerians are well aware of this fact. Haters of Tinubu can continue to paddle falsehood around as much as they like if it makes them feel good. However, it doesn't change the truth in anyway.

Are you & flokii saying Buhari(Paden) is lying and hating, while Tinubu(Ibrahim) are being honest?..

Don't you think Tinubu is afraid of Buhari and will even dig his own grave & bury the whole Southwest into same, if Buhari instructs him to do so Because Tinubu was at the launching of this book and was even one of the reviewers but found absolutely NOTHING wrong with the book ...He commended and recommended the book...

so who exactly hates Tinubu here more than Tinubu himself who couldn't defend something written against him for which he had opportunity to put right? Your enemy is first yourself...conquer him first before pointing fingers bro

wirinet:
This is the koko of the whole article;


The question is what did the Okonjo Iweala do with the N3.29 trillion that was shared to the FG, and why did Okonjo Iweala not save the FG share of the Excess Crude Accounts, Why was she so obsessed with sharing the Governor's share? Afterall her own share is more than the Governor's share.

1) Buhari, Tinubu and all APC fellas has NO MORAL justification if not for the sake of myopic nature of citizenry mentality, to complain about any government not saving. Why? ... Because today, Osibanjo is mischievously celebrating how much they have saved from subsidy without apologising to Nigeria & Nigerians how they for the sake of hatred and political convenience fought and frustrated Jonathan's government from removing same subsidy which would have saved us millions of dollars. Who's fooling who in Nigeria? Can we eat our cake and have it? Has Buhari told us how and why he suddenly accepted and paid for same subsidy which he denied it's existence while Jonathan was leading? Same tactics was used to propagate boko Haram by him and APC hierarchy.

2)It should be noted that Jonathan administration paid MORE salaries than Obasanjo's administration; hence is bound to have less savings than Obj. Yes, Jonathan paid #18000 for civil servants while Obj paid 7500(over 150% difference). Jonathan paid NYSC 19800, over 200% rise from what Obj paid. It will simply metamorphose into more expenses on recurrent expenditure for Jonathan administration. Compare this and see if we had same amount of rise in our income to cushion our expenditure.

3) Jonathan had so many laudable initiatives and training programs which means INCREASED expenditure for his administration...most of which Buhari has stopped. Eg; PRESSID, YOUWIN, etc We have seen so many threads of graduating students of Nigeria sponsored by Jonathan administration returning or still there. That was money turning to extra expenditure. He ingested in education big time.

4)The innovative almajiri school education which he instituted...which seems to be rotting away now...would have forestalled future boko Haram but we can never have it. We rather treat symptoms and wait again for reoccurrence again. Great country indeed!!! Almajiri education was real money... including his twelve universities at a time.

5)Nigeria is a funny country...which weighs EVERY opinion & initiative on the altar of religion, tribe & political party. A malaise championed by no less a person than our president; Muhammad Buhari. We are heading nowhere yet. Truth is subjective in Nigeria.

Hypocrisy kills a nation...Nigeria seems not to have a soul anymore...good pm!!!

President99:
So, Nigerian govt should let go scot free of Dasuki? Go and tell Northeast people this, if u dont get lynched; U will definitely be telling a testimony in ur church next sunday for cheating on death. Do u know how many people that died due his seemingly attitude? the dead ones equally have children and relative.
For Kanu openly soliciting for ammunition to fight a sovereign state, is a stench hypocrisy brother.
Is Kanu unaware of treasonable felony in Nigeria constitution?

1)You have Dasuki for his supposed crime in boko Haram ravage which isn't proved yet...but love Buhari who made sure the fight didn't succeed by playing politics with it and tribalizing it...what are you?

2)You hate Dasuki for love of northeast folks bedevilled by boko Haram but support APC who fought tooth and nail to make sure that America doesn't sell weapons to Nigeria under Jonathan...and fought against America designating them a terrorist group...So what are you

3)You hate Kanu for calling for weapons for his people to defend themselves; but love oba of lagos who committed same crime by calling for death of Kanu tribe...what are you?

4)You hate Kanu for his determination for freedom but love Dr ariyo, the Yoruba American based doctor who called for extermination of Igbo race...what are you?

HYPOCRISY is killing you bro...good pm

President99:
Is easier for Kanu to become Nigerian president than Dasuki to be released!
What a nonsensical court is that? who is ECOWAS without Nigeria; let them come and enforce it. So u mean in ur wildest imagination, ECOWAS's court is superior than our high court in Nigeria. Stop daydreaming! In USA the owest court overules even ICJ. Dasuki and Kanu gonna remain in incarceration and nothing U guys can do about it.

Till your family member sees himself or herself behind bars for whatever reason...maybe you will appreciate extent of your wickedness against others...

ayokellany:
some of you Igbo sleep n wake up with foolishness. Please tell me which road construction is as daring or expensive as the second niger bridge in 2016 budget or which other region as been pencilled down for such ? Yet you do not see others wailing. Will the FG not pay back the the money spent on reconstructing the road.

ndi mmadu sef

1)2nd Niger bridge is PPP...

2) Enugu Onitsha expressway is about to be PPP though partly repaired under Jonathan...

3)This one is state to reconstruct and sit down waiting for ages for refund ...

Now drop roads or bridges under PPP in any part of Nigeria outside 5% region notwithstanding the gigantic cost of most of these roads

Keneking:
Amazing decision..

I hope Mr Peter Obi would lobby Obiano to start something on Umunya before the cock cries in November & December.

Bia nwoke a ginwa ozokwa

I bu onye umunya because you have complained about that spot severally?

Why should Peter Obi lobby here? As what?

Isn't Umunya part of Obiano's Otuocha LGA and Anambra North constitutuency?

chudy144:
Plss come out open and let me know what you mean

Just finished all the pages of both threads Was worth it anyway

Thanks so much Chudy144 for your magnanimity... Believe me, one thing every businessman guides JEALOUSLY is his magic wand(business secrets); but here you are sharing yours with all...may God enrich and expand your coast beyond dreams...Amen...

Can we talk through PM or probably WhatsApp? ...not on bbm bro...

cyrilamx:
you want proof, plz click on these links and see how Gej destroyed our economy...they akready borrowing wen oil slipped below 79 dollar per barrel budget benchmark. Saudi Arabia that has a foreign reserve of more than 100 billion dollars and population of 20 million people started cutting down civil Servants salaries..
At less than 40 dollar per barrel buhari is still navigating Nigeria economy, paying salaries..plz let give honour to whom honour is due. So see the links u asked for.

Brace for tougher times ahead, Okonjo-Iweala tells Nigerians - Premium Times Nigeria http://www.premiumtimesng.com/business/171145-brace-tougher-times-ahead-okonjo-iweala-tells-nigerians.html

Broken, Looted Economy: Get Ready For Suffering - Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Tells Nigerians - NewsRescue.com http://newsrescue.com/broken-looted-economy-get-ready-suffering-ngozi-iweala-tells-nigerians/#axzz4KBRwvf4o


Economic recession: Prepare for hardship, experts warn | newsheralddotme https://newsheralddotme./2014/11/24/economic-recession-prepare-for-hardship-experts-warn/

I think these will suffice...if you want more warnings, I will post. If u are objective enough, you will agree with me that corruption coupled with looting of our common resources by insignificant few who cut across ethnic, religious, gender and political divide, are reasons we suffering as a nation.

Thanks so much @blueto for the apt response...

1) From what you dropped, where's the proof of destruction? Is it that crude was selling below budget benchmark and an alarm was raised? Isn't it a sign of proactive government who saw the signs of gloom and raised alarm for all to sit up? Or you wanted them to be reactive like Buhari who waited till investors had run away from Nigeria and economy brutally destroyed before removing his mechanical hedge on forex?

2) What's correlation between your rant and Saudi Arabia story now? Or you just wanna sound intelligent to your own ears? Are you per chance insinuating Jonathan should have cut down civil servants salaries too?...He was intelligent and smart enough to shift burden of crude price fall to the rich with their luxurious lifestyle and ostentatious living by means of his austerity measures; but Buhari brought on all especially the poor masses...

3)Crude price has being somewhat above $40 and is even above $50 dollars now...with Buhari borrowing over 2.2trillion which NOBODY can explain how And what it was used for including Minister of Finance...and a supposed human being is telling me that buhari is navigating economy ..smh

4) Budget benchmark for 2016 is about $38 and crude is selling way above that...so kindly tell me how much Buhari has SAVED and what is in our reserve now Am waiting...

5)If Jonathan destroyed Nigeria's economy by such awesome policies like YOUWIN, PRESSID, E-,wallet, Auto policy , etc which were HIGHLY successful and it's drivers globally acclaimed then and now... Kindly drop here for us the current economic blueprint of Buhari with which he's navigating the economy according to you ...Name a single positive policy formulation of Buhari's administration almost 2years in office....am waiting

6) Jonathan borrowed to pay ONLY April 2014 salary when 2014 budget wasn't yet appropriated but NEVER borrowed to pay from May 2014 onwards ...FACT# ...so why the lie? What did buhari use 2.2trilliom for? No capital project of his own having exhausted almost two years budget...NOT a single road constructed in 2years of governance and he's navigating economy according to you Name a single project Buhari has initiated in 2years of leadership

7) Anambra state PROVED that states ought to save and stay afloat in times like this...what happened to 99% of APC states who NEVER saved but swimming in debts, some like Osun even to the next 35years notwithstanding inability to pay salaries by them... Jonathan saved something notwithstanding efforts by APC governors to STOP him from SAVING; and handed over some little savings to Buhari from ECA, SWF etc What has Buhari added to these funds ... Remember, Buhari is NOT paying Subsidy for any product

Corruption is NOW celebrated under Buhari with executive rascality... Corruption ranging from employment behind closed doors of Buhari's kids and friends into choice MDAs ...to CBN turning into microfinance bank of his cronies and churning out billionaires at detriment of economy...to borrowing over 2.2trillion which even finance minister doesn't know it's usage ... to judges now issuing highly conflicting judgements depending on executive needs, ...to INEC contesting in elections now as umpire and candidate...to DSS becoming executive attack dog...and others too NUMEROUS to mention

ONLY a BIGOT and INSANE human being will celebrate what is happening to Nigeria economy presently without qualms of conscience...when parents exchange kids for bag of rice and pots of soup are policed daily to avoid stories that touch

Keneking:
BA Philosophy is the only academic degree in that CV.

Rest is non-credit worthy.

1)Drop your CV or even combine yours to your dad's CV let's compare against Peter Obi...

2)He knew the importance and spent good money to acquire those non-credit worthy certificates... kindly drop yours and your family's own

tinsel:
BA PHILOSOPHY(THIRD CLASS)

Hatred and Envy hurts ONLY the vendor ...

cyrilamx:
Did these "crooks" for that what they are also prevent Gej led federal government not to save it's own 50 percent share after the States have collected theirs? NOI already subtly accused Gej of lacking political will to save. Not minding his simplistic outlook, Gej was a disaster as president. At 78 per barrel Gej and NOI already warned Nigerians in 2014, to brace up for austerity and followed suit borrowing to pay salaries.

link to $74 in ,2014 when warning was issued plz

tinsel:
Obiano said he met no saving and Peter said he saved. Who do we believe?

nonsobaba:
A careful look at that junk that Reno Omokri posted as evidence of a phantom 75 billion naira, shows that only Peter Obi signed it. His Account-General and Commissioner for Finance both refused to sign that fraudulent document so as not to rope themselves in if EFCC decides to investigate the matter. Peter Obi alone sat inside his bedroom and crafted that hogwash for gullibles to eat and swallow.

tinsel:
Obiano said he met no saving and Peter said he saved. Who do we believe?

Letters of investments for all these funds from the different banks duly signed by them have severally been published even in this forum...search for the threads here...

ba7man:
www.nairaland.com/2264670/how-peter-obi-collected-n27billion


He should first of all clear himself from this one before forming Mr Prudent.

For want of evidence to taint him or support your hatred, you brought out this gabbage?

And when you felt it didn't do the magic, you went further to evoke fictitious Yoruba hate Igbo story

Ndo my broda

ba7man:
I remember how this same Peter Obi milked the deported Anambra destitute's incident and used it to paint a "Yoruba hate Igbo" picture ( From the same tribal school of thought applied by PDP and GEJ) to further drive a wedge in the populace.


I'll take whatever he has to say on Govt saving but the South east should limit this guy to the Political game of their region.

He has no appeal outside the region.

smh ...

1)But you support a man who said fight against boko Haram is fight against north?

2)You support someone who deported folks in same country but hate someone who cried against it?

Believe me, No matter what you say here, what will be will be because you aren't God...and you're against Peter Obi not because of the said speech but for some hidden hatred in you...Yes, because you are already supporting folks who did and said worse things than him .

Zonacom:
According to Obi, Anambra has the best road network in Nigeria. I can't say if i agree with this or not cos I've not travelled the whole of Nigeria. But isn't it shameful that commuters in this state with the best road network find it very hard to travel from Onitsha to Enugu on a road that is perhaps the most important in the state? Some will shout federal road, but obi couldn't do anything about that road by his virtue of being very close to the president for years. So shameful. Even Obi is not worth any trust

1) You're calling freegoobe to come join you celebrate and vomit your hatred on Peter Obi...

2)Why not show us condition of Anambra roads snd economy prior to his administration and after his administration...

3)Why not show us the states in SE if you haven't travelled round Nigeria whose road network compares to Anambra thanks to Obi ...

4)What about our civil service prior and after?

5) Education prior and after?

Hatred can ONLY hurt the vendor...

arresa:
What a load of rubbish..









The useless and incompetent okonjo woman borrowed to pay salary and fund budgets till her last day in office and till the same month they handed over power in May 2015..



If she was so good a finance minister and economic coordinator, why was she borrowing hundreds of billions to pay salaries and to fund budgets?


If she was so good a finance minister, why did she introduce austerity measures back in 2014 when oil was selling for $80?

If she was so good a finance minister and economic coordinator, why was she borrowing hundreds of billions in 2012 and 2013 when oil was selling for $105 per barrel..?

If she was so good a finance minister and economic coordinator, why was she unable to save or rainy day or diversify our economy when in fact Nigerian earned the largest amount of revenue in history under her watch?




You really need to confine your ignorant rubbish to your ipob kind...

1)Why do you always poison every thread with so much venom and hatred that it stinks to read same or even becomes toxic for sane minds to participate in the discussion? And Seun's moderators allow this to go on daily unhindered.

2)How and where did you Prove InyinyaAgbaOku wrong in your link? Where's proof that Jonathan administration borrowed to pay salaries outside the said April ?

3)Why are you so bigoted? Plz enjoy yourself on tribal threads but allow other political threads for sane and decent discussion plzzz

Good day!!!

Cc Seun , Obinoscopy, Lalasticlala, Mynd44

timy22:
Hii,
Check ur mail

Sorry dear...didn't see it ...and I am not comfortable dropping my digits here for us to talk instead of mail...

Africonji:
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/10/trending-peter-obis-speech-sparks-social-media-debate/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jnps9pxXzpQ

A true, dedicated, sincere, forthright, hardworking, and innovative LEADER...God bless you more!!!

MadamExcellency:
Is it worse than Buhari's forged certificate?

The kind of bribery and intimidation that were employed to force Barrister Ahaiwe to withdraw interest in going ahead with disqualification of Buhari on the ground that he had no basic qualification to run for President should be investigated and "heads should be separated from the bodies" for a warning.

What's Bar Ahaiwe case with them plzzz?