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I have a video clip titled; Conflict in heaven
it will answer all your questions perfectly.
But i dunno how to upload it.

Plants and animals coexisted peacefully in the garden of Eden.
Even plants didnt have thorns.
The fall of man caused it

Watch it here;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQmLVU_nvo8


God bless you as you watch.

KingEbukasBlog:
Covenant Uni ... so its easier for me to go to services . You coming ?

Ehyaa..Would av loved to be there personally but due to stuff ill be seeing it on air.

KingEbukasBlog:
Ya till thursday tho . There's accommodation for students staying for shiloh , so na for sch wey I dey

which school you @ bruh?

KingEbukasBlog:
@winner01 - bro , howz everything and I hope you're good

I thank God bruh, everythings fine.

KingEbukasBlog:
I thank God , thanks for asking . We don close sha . I'm staying for Shiloh tho

You welcome bruh, You go dey sango-ota for Shiloh?

KingEbukasBlog:
Hey neo ... hey neoy , he neowiski ... you got BURNED

@neoapocalypse:

lol, hows school bro.

dalaman:
He should be blessed for narrating fiction?

Are you concerned about the blessing or the gospel

neoapocalypse:
When you stop ramming your God notion down our throats we will be quiet about our own "evangelism".

Oh Sorry, i didnt realise i was "ramming your God notion" on the irreligion section.

There goes your hate and desperation

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okay

Great thread, i opened a thread on Akaine.

https://www.nairaland.com/2781227/born-atheist-parents-leads-parents

May God bless you.

"It is true, that a little philosophy inclineth man's mind to atheism, but depth in philosophy bringeth men's minds about to religion." -Francis Bacon

crusadistic:
the one's who applied for engineering or medicine and were given physics,chemistry,animal science,soil science....are scientists too o

So which branch of science is the greatest?.
African mentality shey

cloudgoddess:
Pretty much this.

Coming out as irreligious in a society that's staunchly religious is social suicide for practically any professional. Says nothing about the validity of the religion.

United kingdom too is staunchly religious

menesheh:
Where is the link and the study?

Most scientists professes to be religious people because of societal marginalization and conventional practice and believes within the society, the sort of posture one displays coming out fully as a non believer and bunch of other reasons.

Societal marginalization in a world where even homosexuality is getting legal. Just shut up.

Of all spirit-filled topics, this made front page
We all know these people are false so what exactly is the purpose for this thread.

Christians!!!, you cant but be Vigilant.





But evil men and nairaland impostors will proceed from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived.
2 Timothy 3:13

First global study of religion and science shows that many scientists are religious, dispelling conflict as myth

There has been a long standing belief that science always counters religion, and religious beliefs do not correspond with scientific facts.
For the first time, a recent global study by researchers from Rice University proved that this perceived clash between science and religion is just a misconception.
In her study entitled "Religious Understandings of Science (RUS)," sociologist Elaine Howard Ecklund surveyed more than 10,000 Americans comprising scientists and evangelical Protestants.
"No one today can deny that there is a popular 'warfare' framing between science and religion. This is a war of words fuelled by scientists, religious people and those inbetween," says Ecklund, founding director of Rice University's Religion and Public Life Program and the Herbert S.Autrey Chairin Social Sciences, in an article posted on Eurekalert.org.

One of the most notable findings from her study dispels the belief that most scientists are atheists. In fact, a lot of those working in the scientific field identified themselves as religious.
"More than half of scientists in India, Italy, Taiwan and Turkey self- identify as religious, "Ecklund says." And it's striking that approximately twice as many 'convinced atheists' exist in the general population of Hong Kong, for example, (55%) compared with the scientific community in this region(26%)."

In some areas, such as Hong Kong and Taiwan, the percentage of scientists who identified themselves as religious is higher compared to the portion of the general population who did the same.

Another interesting finding from Ecklund's study was that only a small percentage of scientists see conflict between religion and science.
For instance, in the United Kingdom—considered to be one of the most secular nations in the world—only 32% of the scientists surveyed said science and religion contradict each other.
Similarly, nearly 50% of the evangelicals surveyed think that science and religion can work together and support one another.

Theologian and apologist Alister McGrath once thought that reason was a stumbling block to faith. But now the former atheist says human reason is limited, and cannot fully grasp the reality of God.

The academic, who has degrees in molecular biology, theology and intellectual history was addressing more than 3,000 Christians at this year's Keswick Convention, meeting in the Lake District.
Professor McGrath encouraged the Christians gathered to be bold in proclaiming the Trinity, saying that it gave people a framework for understanding God.

"The Trinity is a way of safeguarding our vision of God…making sure we never sell God short to ourselves or anyone else. In this challenging context in which to present God, we need to present God in all his fullness," he said.
"The doctrine of the Trinity is this realisation that God is just so great, we are never going to fully able to make sense of him, even though we can trust him."
Professor McGrath, head of the Centre for Theology, Religion and Culture at King's College London, was the first guest speaker to address this year's convention.
He insisted that the Trinity and the Christian faith were not "irrational" and that believers need not be afraid of atheists and other critics.
"I [once] thought, this doctrine is just clearly bad mathematics, it's just nonsense. You can only trust what reason can prove. That seemed to me at the time to be a good argument against the doctrine of the Trinity. But, we need to realise there are limits to what reason can take in," he said.

"Sometimes things are so big and bright and luminous that we can't take them in. Richard Dawkins limits reality to what we can prove.
That is a terribly small and very uninteresting world. You can prove that two and two make four, but that doesn't give you a reason to get up in the morning, to live and to hope.
"Atheism presents us with a narrow little world."
He said one of the reasons atheists were so critical of Christians was because it detracted from having to look at their world and "realise how little it is".

The Christian faith, he argued, makes sense "of itself" when it is experienced "within us" and in what can be seen around us.
"Christianity doesn't go beyond reason, but recognises there are limits to reason. It opens up this great and bold picture of what things are really like.
The fact that we have difficulty in taking something in doesn't mean it is irrational, it just means our little minds find it very difficult to take in big things."
He continued: "It goes beyond what we as human beings can master and understand.

Atheism is simply a human philosophy. It says, what we can understand–that's it. What you see is what you get.
Christianity is saying: what you see is great, but it makes even more sense when you see the bigger picture and realise that what we can understand is only part of something bigger, but what we can see now is good enough to be going on with."

The Keswick Convention has been meeting in the Lake District since 1875. This year's convention got underway on Saturday and will continue until 2nd August, during which time an estimated 12,000 to 15,000 people will attend.
Other speakers include mathematician Professor John Lennox from
the Oxford Centre of Christian Apologetics and CARE's executive
chairman Lyndon Bowring in the third week.

chuna1985:
Did I @ any point say disbelief in religion is disbelief in God

I understand ur confusion...

Den why u asking me to read up on irreligion.

dalaman:
Why did Yahweh create the asteroid belt in our solar system? Did he use hebrew words to speak them into existence or Greek?

Provide a picture of the human mind as proof of its existence.

dalaman:
What is the human mind?

Dont ask me questions, just provide a pictorial proof of the human mind. Afterall its been substantiated by evidence.
Dont quote again me if you cant.

KingEbukasBlog:
And how is it your problem or a problem that God wants worship or acknowledgement ?

Good question. Over to you menesheh.

dalaman:
This one has left atheism to embrace yoruba religion, good for you. When did Eleduamare create the universe and how? Why did he create 8 planets in our solar system with other planetary bodies and for what purpose?

You enjoy asking questions but you've never answered one.
not sensibly at least.

menesheh:
All i care is that no body should worship anything wether big bang or come from nothing or designerr.

But you people worship the self and a lot of other things (if you need me to mention them) and encourage people to find solace in ourselves, Johnydon22 and Ifeness encourages it too
Exactly what the Bible warns against.
How could the Bible even know all these.
I get more excited.

I kept saying it, man cant be void. He was created that way.

menesheh:
Doubt is a healthy way to making sure that you are not biased and deluded in your conclusion.

Crap!!, crittical examination is a healthy way, not doubt.
Im a scientist, i perform tests and make evaluations. I dont doubt my tests, i observe.

menesheh:
You still fail to demonstrate that such designer exists first b4 attributing anything to the designer. It is just postulations from a book out of many similar books without any mechanism to investigate such designer.

This is simple, give an example of anything at all material or immaterial that you know exists without a designer.
Postulations from an "ancient book" that somehow still terrorizes the immorality of the 21st century, i thought you believed the writers were simpletons
Post a picture of the human mind as proof of its existence

menesheh:
You are right but you gats wait until we discover such existence. You don't have to first presuppose and start believing such existence when it have not be proven to exist beyond reasonable doubt.

Make sense man, We dont wait for existence, we build on existence. All that is left for you to discover has pre-existed.

Again, the human mind has been proven to exist. Provide a pictorial proof, maybe from this you can have a taste of your own medicine.

menesheh:
Demonstrate the existence of such sky fairy first.

Demonstrate the existence of the human mind since you only believe in the visible.

menesheh:
Truth dont fear criticism. Infact, the more you criticize truth, the more it shines.

Do you need me to give you names of hardcore atheists and satanists that have come and gone in their attempt to evade christianity.
Several decades later, christianity still shines.

menesheh:
Opposite is the case with Christainity. They fear criticism..

Fear is a negation in christianity dude, try not to use it.
We accept discussions from open-minded people not people who are sealed their hearts and are bent on destroying the image of christianity. Some of you make me wonder if you dedicated your lives for this cause.

menesheh:
The more atheists uproot the flaws of christainity, the more believers become agnostic on their own.

What you term "believer" is debatable. Everything that goes on here further proves how much the devil needs us to turn away from Christ, just as the Bible predicted.
What else is proof.

menesheh:
I don't know. What's the meaning of "random process"

Is this a way to deviat from the argument on board.

You get 2 argument?

menesheh:
Is this question not irrelevant to my comment. Read my comment again.

It a simple question.

Can existence occur by random processes.

menesheh:
That's why we are promoting critical thinking and critical evaluation of evidence before one can start believing anything.

The only thing you promote here is doubt and disbelief in God.
What sort of critical thought proposes a design without a designer, creation without purpose, ignorance of origination, morality without reason.
Lack of evidence is not non existence. Ive asked you to post the picture of the human mind here as proof of its existence.

menesheh:
The reason why i love google and Internet is that it will give you everything you need both supporting arguments and falsification (nullification) counterparts. You will be the one to use your brain to arrive to a more propable conclusion.

The human brain is usually insufficient for making unique decisions. If there is a Creator and an adversary, do you really think your brains could defeat the adversary who probably has dealt with several generations. Would you be able to handle physically an evil inspired article, i think not.
The normal human thought process is weak and will give sound premises to sanction homosexuality, necrophilia, beastiality, indiscriminate sex, murder for gain, public funds embezzlement, thuggery in short madness. Only the love of God can activate a mans conscience against evil.

menesheh:
Religion have been thriving for bunch of millenia without any possible counter to its tenets and moral values. Google had seriously broken the jinx and allow for more deeper evaluation of the claimed truth of all religion.

Christianity will continue to thrive. you can criticize, adjust, manipulate or plan its death, but you cant bury the truth. Goggle will come and go but the word of our God will stand forever.

menesheh:
Before you could do that, first of all, wean yourself of all your preconceptions and presuppositions so that you can actually follow where the evidence will lead you. It is a better way to go about it to avoid being delusioned and biased into believing any of those things which can either creationism or evolution.

If you still bear your preconceptions, chances that you maybe thriving in the god of the gap.

Can existence occur by random processes.

okay

SirWere:
I recommend you google theistic evolution. Peace sir. Happy sunday

Google will give you anything you want especially nowadays where people can just write trash and upload. Little wonder many of you read and digest crap and then safeguard it.
For Example, google "obama is satan", you will get your answers. So where are you referring me to exactly.

CoolUsername:
Maybe if you stop getting all your knowledge of evolution from pro-creationist websites then you'll have a better idea of how it works.

I strongly recommend this link:

darryl-cunningham..co.nz/2011/06/evolution.html?m=1

Life had to exist first before "evolving".
Evolution cannot take place without existence.
I dont need knowledge of evolution, im more concerned with existence, how it all began.
No need to post links, just tell us if Existence can occur by random processes.