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Christianity Etc › Re: Young Mom Shot 5 Times By Her Boyfriend, Who Also Killed Her Twins And Father by winner01(op): 7:08pm On Dec 12, 2015
brainbucks:
Last Days




umm guy add sauce to de soup nao. abi na source dem dey call am sef...
lol, na sauce grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Quotes From Scientists Regarding Design Of The Universe by winner01(op): 7:06pm On Dec 12, 2015
If we were to judge nature by common sense or likelihood, we wouldn't believe the world existed. --Annie Dillard
Christianity Etc › Re: The Bible In A Nutshell (part 1 Of 3) very funny and entertaining by winner01(m): 6:55pm On Dec 12, 2015
menesheh:
You no see the bolded eediot over there
What do you expect, you make a mockery of yourself at every oppourtunity. You are definately disturbed. angry
Politics › Re: Throwback Picture Of Fayose And His Wife by winner01(m): 12:35pm On Dec 12, 2015
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Celebrities › Re: Tiwa Savage Goes Gangsta In New Photo by winner01(m): 12:34pm On Dec 12, 2015
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Christianity Etc › Quotes From Scientists Regarding Design Of The Universe by winner01(op): 12:18pm On Dec 12, 2015
Does science lead us down a road that ends in the naturalistic explanation of everything we see? In the nineteenth century, it certainly looked as though science was going in that direction.
However, 20 th century and now 21 st century science is leading us back down the road of design - not from a lack of scientific explanation, but from scientific explanation that requires an appeal to the extremely unlikely - something that science does not deal well with. As a result of the recent evidence in support of design, many scientists now believe in God.

According to a recent article:
"I was reminded of this a few months ago when I saw a survey in the journal Nature . It revealed that 40% of American physicists, biologists and mathematicians believe in God--and not just some metaphysical abstraction, but a deity who takes an active interest in our affairs and hears our prayers: the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob."

The degree to which the constants of physics must match a precise criteria is such that a number of agnostic scientists have concluded that there is some sort of "supernatural plan" or "Agency" behind it.

Here is what some of them say:

Fred Hoyle (British astrophysicist) : "A common sense interpretation of the facts suggests that a superintellect has monkeyed with physics, as well as with chemistry and biology, and that there are no blind forces worth speaking about in nature. The numbers one calculates from the facts seem to me so overwhelming as to put this conclusion almost beyond question."


George Ellis (British astrophysicist) : "Amazing fine tuning occurs in the laws that make this [complexity] possible. Realization of the complexity of what is accomplished makes it very difficult not to use the word 'miraculous' without taking a stand as to the ontological status of the word."


Paul Davies (British astrophysicist) : "There is for me powerful evidence that there is something going on behind it all....It seems as though somebody has fine- tuned nature’s numbers to make the Universe....The impression of design is overwhelming".


Paul Davies : "The laws [of physics] ... seem to be the product of exceedingly ingenious design... The universe must have a purpose".


Alan Sandage (winner of the Crawford prize in astronomy) : "I find it quite improbable that such order came out of chaos. There has to be some organizing principle. God to me is a mystery but is the explanation for the miracle of existence, why there is something instead of nothing."


John O'Keefe (astronomer at NASA) : "We are, by astronomical standards, a pampered, cosseted, cherished group of creatures.. .. If the Universe had not been made with the most exacting precision we could never have come into existence. It is my view that these circumstances indicate the universe was created for man to live in."


George Greenstein (astronomer) : "As we survey all the evidence, the thought insistently arises that some supernatural agency - or, rather, Agency - must be involved. Is it possible that suddenly, without intending to, we have stumbled upon scientific proof of the existence of a Supreme Being? Was it God who stepped in and so providentially crafted the cosmos for our benefit?"


Arthur Eddington (astrophysicist) : "The idea of a universal mind or Logos would be, I think, a fairly plausible inference from the present state of scientific theory."


Arno Penzias (Nobel prize in physics) : "Astronomy leads us to a unique event, a universe which was created out of nothing, one with the very delicate balance needed to provide exactly the conditions required to permit life, and one which has an underlying (one might say 'supernatural') plan."


Roger Penrose (mathematician and author) : "I would say the universe has a purpose. It's not there just somehow by chance."


Tony Rothman (physicist) : "When confronted with the order and beauty of the universe and the strange coincidences of nature, it's very tempting to take the leap of faith from science into religion. I am sure many physicists want to. I only wish they would admit it."


Vera Kistiakowsky (MIT physicist) : "The exquisite order displayed by our scientific understanding of the physical world calls for the divine."


Robert Jastrow (self-proclaimed agnostic) : "For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries."


Stephen Hawking (British astrophysicist) : "Then we shall… be able to take part in the discussion of the question of why it is that we and the universe exist. If we find the answer to that, it would be the ultimate triumph of human reason - for then we would know the mind of God."


Frank Tipler (Professor of Mathematical Physics) : "When I began my career as a cosmologist some twenty years ago, I was a convinced atheist. I never in my wildest dreams imagined that one day I would be writing a book purporting to show that the central claims of Judeo-Christian theology are in fact true, that these claims are straightforward deductions of the laws of physics as we now understand them. I have been forced into these conclusions by the inexorable logic of my own special branch of physics."
Note: Tipler since has actually converted to Christianity, hence his latest book, The Physics of Christianity .


Alexander Polyakov (Soviet mathematician) : "We know that nature is described by the best of all possible mathematics because God created it."


Ed Harrison (cosmologist) : "Here is the cosmological proof of the existence of God – the design argument of Paley – updated and refurbished. The fine tuning of the universe provides prima facie evidence of deistic design. Take your choice: blind chance that requires multitudes of universes or design that requires only one.... Many scientists, when they admit their views, incline toward the teleological or design argument."


Edward Milne (British cosmologist) : "As to the cause of the Universe, in context of expansion, that is left for the reader to insert, but our picture is incomplete without Him [God]."


Barry Parker (cosmologist) : "Who created these laws? There is no question but that a God will always be needed."


Drs. Zehavi, and Dekel (cosmologists) : "This type of universe, however, seems to require a degree of fine tuning of the initial conditions that is in apparent conflict with 'common wisdom'."


Arthur L. Schawlow (Professor of Physics at Stanford University, 1981 Nobel Prize in physics) : "It seems to me that when confronted with the marvels of life and the universe, one must ask why and not just how. The only possible answers are religious. . . . I find a need for God in the universe and in my own life."


Henry "Fritz" Schaefer (Graham Perdue Professor of Chemistry and director of the Center for Computational Quantum Chemistry at the University of Georgia) : "The significance and joy in my science comes in those occasional moments of discovering something new and saying to myself, 'So that's how God did it.' My goal is to understand a little corner of God's plan."


Wernher von Braun (Pioneer rocket engineer) "I find it as difficult to understand a scientist who does not acknowledge the presence of a superior rationality behind the existence of the universe as it is to comprehend a theologian who would deny the advances of science."


Carl Woese (microbiologist from the University ofIllinois) "Life in Universe - rare or unique? I walk both sides of that street. One day I can say that given the 100 billion stars in our galaxy and the 100 billion or more galaxies, there have to be some planets that formed and evolved in ways very, very like the Earth has, and so would contain microbial life at least. There are other days when I say that the anthropic principal, which makes this universe a special one out of an uncountably large number of universes, may not apply only to that aspect of nature we define in the realm of physics, but may extend to chemistry and biology. In that case life on Earth could be entirely unique."


Antony Flew ( Professor of Philosophy, former atheist, author, and debater ) "It now seems to me that the findings of more than fifty years of research have provided materials for a new and enormously powerful argument to design."


Frank Tipler (Professor of Mathematical Physics) : "From the perspective of the latest physical theories, Christianity is not a mere religion, but an experimentally testable science."




Source: www.godandscience.org/apologetics/quotes.html

Christianity Etc › Young Mom Shot 5 Times By Her Boyfriend, Who Also Killed Her Twins And Father by winner01(op):
A 22-year-old mom who was asked by her boyfriend to hold her twin baby daughters before shooting them has miraculously survived and is now recovering in hospital.
Megan Rose Hiatt of Jacksonville, Florida was shot five times—including one of the head—by her boyfriend Gawain Rushane Wilson, 28. Her babies—Hayden Rose and Kaydeen Reese—were also shot and killed as well as her father, Travis Hiatt, 49, before Wilson turned the gun on himself and pulled the trigger.

Hiatt said she owes her life to nooneelse but Jesus Christ, the Gospel Herald reported.
"First off, I want everyone to know that I know my Saviour Jesus Christ lives and that my Heavenly Father has been by my side throughout this process and I could not be doing this without that knowledge. I have made a major milestone, "Megan Rose Hiatt of Jacksonville, Florida wrote on the GoFundMe page setup to gather donations for her hospital bills and funeral for her daughters.

Hiatt is still recovering from the gunshot wounds after undergoing six surgeries.
"I can hold a cup or bottle in my left hand which was injured in the crossfire. I received asking raft in surgery this morning for my left leg that seems to be doing well. Today marked six surgeries on that leg with a total of eight surgeries. Many more to go but I know that your thoughts, prayers, and all other efforts on my behalf haven't gone unnoticed and are all greatly appreciated. They are the reason that I am alive," she said.

The online fund drive had generated $27,315 of the $50,000 goal as of Saturday.
"Emotionally, I'm taking it one day at a time, but my thoughts are becoming more clear and when I am recovered and well, I look forward to becoming a major advocate for domestic violence issues toward Women and Men, "Hiatt added.
Because of the donations, she said, "my daughters were able to be buried in beautiful white coffins next to my Father, our knight in shining armour. I don't know how to thank you for that blessing and love. Thank you from the bottom of my heart dear friends."



Source: www.christiantoday.com/article/young.mom.shot.5.times.by.her.boyfriend.who.also.killed.her.twins.and.father.says.she.owes.her.life.to.jesus.christ/72499.htm

Christianity Etc › Re: The Bible In A Nutshell (part 1 Of 3) very funny and entertaining by winner01(m): 7:45pm On Dec 11, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:
Another thread from an obsessed fan of an imaginary God . Winner01 grin .
His obsession is so obvious.
I suggest you just let him do his thing bro, its pointless trying to get sense into a disturbed desperate eediot. smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Just Sent A Message To Me. Dear Christian Fundamentalists Here. by winner01(m): 7:45pm On Dec 10, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:
Please stop spamming Nairaland's religion section with these topics . Why you are obsessed with someone who you claim is imaginary
Dude's lost it finally.
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Are Those Going To Hell. Almost All Christains Will Be Traveling To Hell by winner01(m): 7:42pm On Dec 10, 2015
menesheh:
You don't always understand the point bruh. No body is convincing you that their isn't a god. You're maliciously shifting the burden of proof to atheism. We are demanding for the prove of the claim in the bible.

Me
: Winner01, there is a book i read where a man gave birth to a bouncing baby girl.

You: waw, i don't believe such could happen. I disbelieve untill you bring valid and convincing evidence to such claim.

Me: no, i absolutely believe it because ibori, Mohammed and chidi saw it happen in the book.

You: did you know those eye-witness and wether they really existed. Are there ways you can verify those witnesses outside the book you read because anyone can easily write names as eyewitnesses.

Me: you have to believe it cus it is real.

You: Sorry i don't believe things that way, i need more evidence to believe such claims. Infact the evidence as we know it, a man have no ovary, placenta and other organ that can aid a man to deliver a baby.



In the chat above, are you really telling me that my story isn't real and at the same time convincing me that it is not true, or asking for more evidence to the claims and reasons why i believed it despite how it seems impossible.
If you start convincing me that is not true, there is need for you to prove that it isn't true.

You can't start disproving thousands if not millions of other claims before you can be sure that they ain't real. You wait until each present their evidence and proof of their claims.
No one will entertain your nonsense.
You tried to prove some sense but im sorry its all nonsense.
Try again ehn.
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Are Those Going To Hell. Almost All Christains Will Be Traveling To Hell by winner01(m): 7:34pm On Dec 10, 2015
menesheh:
Firstly, i commend you for putting this up without abuse or harsh words.
Your post tilts towards mockery of christians, what do you want me to do, show you my knuckleundecided
menesheh:
Now after going through this piece, you made a nice conclusion of what you feel were the central points of this thread. It is not in my point and maybe others views may still differ.
Dishonesty such as these repel me.
You point is "If its difficult to get to heaven, why bother".
Just be a man and admit it.
menesheh:
There is this saying that "good people will always strive for good while bad people will always have taste for evil" there is no correlation or studies confirming that being religious or being threatened of things like hell will make people do good while irreligiosity and not threatening people with hell breeds evil and immoral sort of people.
You are still a very dishonest fellow. If there is such saying. Have you questioned its source or critically analysed its validity. Menesheh, you annoy me when you think so shallow.
Who is threatening, why dont you wage war against "life" that fills us with threats everyday, threats of failure, sickness, poverty etc if we fail to follow certain principles. Just say "life" too does not exist.
You reject good, you choose evil.
menesheh:
In fact, the opposite is the case, the more religious a person or a society are, the more they tends to commit horrid crimes. I see no special benefit of threatening especially imagery ones as a good tool to restrict and curtail people's evil intents.
The more people refuse to follow the actual teachings of christianity, the more immorality abounds.
I see several so called "christians" that sleep around, drink, smoke and these same people claim to love Jesus.
The fact remains, the more people drift from the gospel, the more immorality abounds.
No one is threatening you, its the system.
Why not sit at home and refuse to work and see if hunger wont kill you.
Its not a threat, you automatically choose evil by refusing the good. its the system.
menesheh:
So the bible as one of the mythical books
Your proof.undecided
menesheh:
Am still waiting for your justifications how threat is a good mechanisms to conform people to do good. Japan, a secular country achieved being number one secular country with the least crime rate while Nigeria, who receives on daily bases the threat of hell became utopia society wink.
If you Dont prepare for exams, youve automatically chosen failure. Get this into your head. Its not a threat, its your choice
menesheh:
NB. In order for you to be a formidable father, don't threaten your children with horrible imageries with the intent that they will be good when they grow up.
I will probably be a better father than you. Theres no rational reason for you to stay with just a lady when there are many varieties of ladies remember grin.
You son could have sex with your wife and insist that "morality is subjective".
I wont threaten my children, ill train them in the way of the Lord. I hope you will share your testimony when your children eventually convert you.
menesheh:
If you care to check, use USA as your checking case study, verify the statistics of their citizens who are more in prison for varieties of crimes and tell me your findings basing it on religion and atheism.
As some point, Ive thought to myself, why be good?, why follow God. Most time when i sin, i dont think about God and so do many people.
Those criminals just like you definately werent thinking about God when they commited crimes.
You cant claim to be like Jesus and act like an atheist and then when you end up in prison, people call you a christian, thats the logicundecided
menesheh:
You've not demonstrated that there is Really an abstract monster who owns us all. I will start following as soon as i know there is. All i see for now is the explanations of what an ancient book assered about stuffs in the sky.
That book somehow stands taller than any other book in history even though generations have sought to bring it down.
I havent tried to demonstrate and probably wont demonstrate.
I can only encourage you to taste and see that God is good.
menesheh:
You agreed that you done immoral acts and same with me. I take responsibility for my actions which may lead me to apologize, but yours is that you wanted it the easy way by pretending to be asking for forgiveness to an unseen and non existent meduim, and at the same time pretending to be forgiven. It is evasion of justice and also pretty asinine.
Who and what do you apologize to.undecided
I take responsibility for my actions when i pray.
You dont take responsibility for your actions, its why you wish there is no one to call you to order.
menesheh:
No, we will drag such god with you if we know and see him existing. I need such god with such qualities more than you do but am honest to stop pretending that there is one out there when there is no evidence of any.
Pretending?undecided, ehyaa, i pity you.
Ive asked you before to show me a pictorial evidence of the human mind as proof that it exists.
cmon, you can do it.
menesheh:
Sorry, "god exists wether you likes it or not" is not in any way evidence of a god.
No one is trying to prove anything to you, if i wanted to, ill be in the atheist section not in the religion section where i share with people of God.
menesheh:
Winner01, dragon exists wether you likes it or not.
Allah exists wether you likes it or not.
Human migrated from MARS to inhabit earth wether you like it or not.
Look you people are funny and naive when you bring up the issue of demons.
Dragons, allah, martians etc exists.
The Bible speaks of other beings not of this world.
No one is atheistic to demons.
so try again.
menesheh:
Lastly you failed to say anything about wether or not you will be part of the hell because you've admitted to be a sinner, and have committed or will even still commit those criterias that will take one to hell.
You probably missed where i said (This me is dead). Im sorry but Christ now lives in me.
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Are Those Going To Hell. Almost All Christains Will Be Traveling To Hell by winner01(m): 8:13am On Dec 10, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:
grin ... bro ... The atheists are confused , the fight against this non existent God just got real grin . He took his time to list out reasons why an imaginary God will send people to Hell . cool undecided
So much confusion grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Are Those Going To Hell. Almost All Christains Will Be Traveling To Hell by winner01(m): 7:37am On Dec 10, 2015
KingEbukasBlog, i think the focus has shifted from "convincing us that there is no God" to "Why bother make heaven".
Christianity Etc › Re: Help! Please I Want Answers To Some Fundamental Biblical Question by winner01(m):
fabre4:
I don't know if am slowly becoming an atheist by not believing the old testament especially about creation there are just too many unanswered questions
First and foremost, ill like you to understand that its perfectly normal to ask questions regarding scriptures. Its the only way to have a deeper knowledge of anything. Its why newly found lovers ask questions, to know more about themselves.
At some point, i was filled with questions myself. I can tell you that all we need to know is contained in the scriptures.
You will find no answers in atheism. Atheism is not "Merely Disbelieving" as they makes it seem. It is actually a conscious effort to rebel against God. Take nairaland for example, self-proclaimed atheists spend everyday of their lives "not asking reasonable questions" but "encouraging other people not to follow God".
fabre4:
1)were Adam and eve the only people God created in the beginning.
This question usually arise mainly because of cains wife. Well, there is no biblical indication that God created other humans apart from Adam and Eve. Adam is called the “first man” in 1Corinthians15:45. Also Genesis3:20 calls Eve the mother of all the living. So basically, there were no humans apart from Adam and Eve.
Adam was 130 years old when he had Seth, and other sons and daughters Genesis 4:25 ; 5:3. At 130 he probably had grandkids and great-grandkids which in turn means Cain had plenty of people to be afraid of after killing his brother, including females to marry from (which was lawful until the law of moses).


fabre4:
2)we now know that there is a new planet that inhabits living things what is the biblical explanation for that together with other planets
There is no known planet that inhabits living things sir, probably one that has been predicted to be able to support life. Its just speculations.

fabre4:
3)Jesus is going to prepare a place for believers if heaven exists already what is that place called
Simple, Heaven. You can prepare a place in your home for someone, it is still your home.
fabre4:
4)since God knew that eve would eat the apple why did he not stop Serpent from tempting her despite knowing the consequences and also why did he pretend as if he didn't know what Adam and eve had done was he trying to be sarcastic
Please watch this clip, i believe it will put my answer in better words.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQmLVU_nvo8

fabre4:
5)is there a probability that the 7 or 3½ years of the great tribulation could be shortened
As far as I know, Revelation 13:5 says its three and a half years, the length of the Great Tribulation.
You need to understand that the Tribulation and the great Tribulation do not mean the same thing. The Tribulation refers to the full seven-year period while the “Great Tribulation” refers to the second half of the Tribulation.

fabre4:
6)Why do we still read the old testament which was gotten from Judaism with so much love for blood even though it contradicts Christ teaching
The old testament serves as the foundation of events, people, laws, sacrifices, covenants, promises and prophecies of the Old Testament, It would be much difficult to have an understanding of the new testament without it.
Jesus did not teach against the old testament, but exercised authority over the foundational teachings of the scribes.

fabre4:
7)Is it a sin to ask rational questions cos as scientist it is very difficult to close minded
It is not a sin but that depends on what you mean by rational questions. Where and whom you ask your serious questions too is very important. Especially not on an atheist owned forum, who gives atheist the freedom to poison the minds of weak believers on a religion-coated section.
The fact that there is no section for christians as there is for muslims is enough to send you the message of the anti-christian plot. Some of us are here just because of the same weak minds that could be affected by demonic poisons.

Rationality is good, very good but it is not sufficient.
There is no rational reason why i should stay with one woman when i can have a variety of ladies, there is no rational reason why i shouldnt cheat during exams if it will make me pass. Theres no rational reason why i shouldnt smoke if its what i love. In short, theres no rational reason why i shouldnt do something if my action are calculated to satisfy me or help me succeed.
God is the all sufficient, not rationality.
Mr fabre4, i hope ive been able to atleast clear the air.
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist: How They Want Heb 11:3 To Read by winner01(m): 7:14am On Dec 10, 2015
1feness:
Let this be the last you call me that or our convo will be over.
But seriously you sound like a jester grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist: How They Want Heb 11:3 To Read by winner01(m): 7:09am On Dec 10, 2015
@KingEbukasBlog, its called infinite knowledge.
Its like saying "I have no proof but Im sure creation requires no Creator".
Chai!!, Simple common sense grin

To sustain the belief that there is no God, atheism has to demonstrate infinite knowledge, which is tantamount to saying, "I have infinite knowledge that there is no being in existence with infinite knowledge" --Ravi Zacharias
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist: How They Want Heb 11:3 To Read by winner01(m): 10:58pm On Dec 09, 2015
Nice one op

Christianity Etc › Re: Evolution Professor Converts To Christianity After Being Challenged By A Student by winner01(op): 10:52pm On Dec 09, 2015
1feness:
Haha nice try! You seem like someone looking for answers. You still are wondering what kind of god you are having a relationship with

The guy who had an accident will die at some point,so he should chin up and make himself useful. There are many British soldiers with one legs and they are making the most of it. My best friend has a robot leg and he is running the 5 kilometer run this coming weekend. He is happy
Someone looking for answers undecided, wen will you quit weed undecided
You can be blind to the fact that trauma leads several people to atheism.
Christianity Etc › Re: Evolution Professor Converts To Christianity After Being Challenged By A Student by winner01(op): 10:50pm On Dec 09, 2015
[quote author=Judas2013 post=40855198][/quote]outdated.
i can replace the cross with "morality"
Christianity Etc › Re: Evolution Professor Converts To Christianity After Being Challenged By A Student by winner01(op): 10:48pm On Dec 09, 2015
[quote author=Judas2013 post=40854781][/quote]The Bible is God's word.
I know it gives you so much headache but maybe you should try sanity.
Christianity Etc › Re: Evolution Professor Converts To Christianity After Being Challenged By A Student by winner01(op): 10:47pm On Dec 09, 2015
OgundeleT:
then why are u people crying of genocide since u are heavenly bounded? why wailing to the govt and the world for help? stop been hypocrites, u are not sure whether heaven is real or not.
who is crying, you are the one crying day and night on the religion section.
You spend your life talking about something you dont believe, madness.

Anyway, wail on!!!
Christianity Etc › Re: Evolution Professor Converts To Christianity After Being Challenged By A Student by winner01(op): 10:15pm On Dec 09, 2015
OgundeleT:
to churchtard it is original. well, christian are known for wailing on the streets, in the church and in the markets for ur powerless omni omni god that can defend himself talkless of saving his children from boko boys bombs and ISIS bullets
Ehn ehn, But God said "we shall have tribulations in this world, and that we should be of good cheer for He has overcome the world."

Boko haram and Isis can kill the body but not the soul. our gaze is towards heaven.

still wail on!!!
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist: How They Want Heb 11:3 To Read by winner01(m): 10:08pm On Dec 09, 2015
aaronson:
The big bang started off as small, minute atomic action and reaction in a form of tennis ball shape then before its expansion till explosion.
Where did "small, minute atomic action and reaction in a form of tennis ball shape" come from undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: Is God Necessary For Human Happiness? by winner01(m): 9:58pm On Dec 09, 2015
immortalcrown:
Your question is like asking if air is really necessary for human exertence.
Thread closed!!!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Inconsistent God. by winner01(m): 9:55pm On Dec 09, 2015
Trizyd:
well, God's Thinking Is Not Your Thinking. Why Don't You Start Your Argument With Why He Decided To Make Man From Dust. As I Said, Diffrent Product, Different Design, Different Material
Great reply.
Only the wise can see the point in this reply
Christianity Etc › Re: Evolution Professor Converts To Christianity After Being Challenged By A Student by winner01(op): 9:52pm On Dec 09, 2015
1feness:
There is no way someone like myself will convert to any religion,not after being a christian for 15 years of my life.
These were the exact words of someone i spoke to sometime ago. But hn own na 26 years.
He went clubbing with his friends for the first time, refused to drink and on their way back had an auto accident. He was the only victim. He broke his hips and will probably limp forever. He hates God because of unanswered questions.
His friends are club regulars, why did he have an accident the first time.....
We spoke at length, i felt his pain.

I dunno what you going through, but you sound bitter.
Christianity Etc › Re: Evolution Professor Converts To Christianity After Being Challenged By A Student by winner01(op): 9:44pm On Dec 09, 2015
OgundeleT:
i dont know why people think it is good to lie especially whenever they are selling their fake product call religion, na so somebody who has never died will be showing heaven and hell film
But this one na original na
In the mean time, wail on!!!
Christianity Etc › Re: Have You Ever Wondered Why God Created Animals, Especially The Wild Ones? by winner01(m): 9:19pm On Dec 09, 2015
davodyguy:
This response kinda provide a close answer in that, its gives credence to sin as the origin for these 'killings'

But the question is, why would Adam and Eve sin and the judgement is to turn lion violent to a goat? Why?

Why should a rat go to one's kitchen and mess up foods stuff? Did God design it to be so? I'm sure you dare not spare a crock coach playing around your post of stew, neither will you not want to kill a bee at first sight of nearness
Did you watch the clip from the link i posted?
Christianity Etc › Re: Evolution Professor Converts To Christianity After Being Challenged By A Student by winner01(op): 9:17pm On Dec 09, 2015
1feness:
Wait a minute! He believes in Human sacrifice now? He probably was a confused and weak minded individual. There is no way someone like myself will convert to any religion,not after being a christian for 15 years of my life. That person who converted him must be a good sales person who could sell a fake product successfully. Good luck to him!
You words show how bitter you are.
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Are Those Going To Hell. Almost All Christains Will Be Traveling To Hell by winner01(m):
Yawns!!!, Do a case study on the normality of a 100 people, about 20% will willingly choose to be abnormal.
Someone once told me, "normal is too boring".
So i perfectly understand if some humans wants to go to hell.

The major points of this thread is
1. We sin everyday, Its hard to make heaven, so why bother.
2. Lets all try to forget all about God, He could change his mind if we are many(i know, ive been there).
3. I dont wanna make heaven but it aint enough, i need other people not to make heaven.
4. You commit minor sins everyday and so you waste your time thinking about heaven, just continue in your sins.
In short, you are encouraging people to see how pointless it is to make heaven and how easy it is to go to hell.
Its quite funny an "ancient book" knew this 2000 years ago when It spoke about the paths leading to heaven and hell. Fantastic book aint it grin.

And this is just the whole point of atheism, to sin, continue in sin and reject anyone who intends to call you to order.
I will like to agree with Oswald Chambers who said
"The real attitude of sin in the heart towards God is that of being without God; it is pride, the worship of myself, that is the great atheistic fact in human life."


I did stuff as a kid and hoped my parents never new about it. If anything i wished they werent there while i have my way.
This sums up the life of an atheist.
Matthew henry probably knew this when he said
"No man will say, There is no God till he is so hardened in sin that it has become his interest that there should be none to call him to account."


(This me is dead) but of course i would like to rob banks and get filthy rich without the cops having to call me to order undecided, i will like to cheat during exams and wish the invigilator wont see me undecided, i will like to have my way with several nice ladies without hinderance undecided, i will like to be a really bad niggr without any feel of guilt or anyone to call me to orderundecided

The only difference between me and an atheist is that; I recognize bad for the bad it is and feel guilty about my bad and try not to be bad.
The atheist recognizes bad, glories in it, hopes no one will call him to order, and encourages others to join in the bad whilst unconsciously working for the devil.

"Claiming that God does not exist, or that He is dead, is the expression, not of truth, but of hope, for nothing would please the unregenerate heart more than to be rid of God." - Dr. Joseph Thomas Kennedy


In conclusion;
"God exist whether or not men may choose to believe in Him. The reason why many people do not believe in God is not so much that it is intellectually impossible to believe in God, but because belief in God forces that thoughtful person to face the fact that he is accountable to such a God." - Robert A. Laidlaw

Below is my personal message for you menesheh. grin Either you like it or not.

Christianity Etc › Evolution Professor Converts To Christianity After Being Challenged By A Student by winner01(op):
Evolutionary professor converts to Christianity after being challenged by a student. "I was made a fool." Listen to his incredible story!



Watch here;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3jrcP-o6Vs
Christianity Etc › Re: Have You Ever Wondered Why God Created Animals, Especially The Wild Ones? by winner01(m): 1:22pm On Dec 09, 2015
1feness:
which of the many gods?
The one you are obsessed about. angry

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