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AnonyNymous:
Everyone's allegiance to whatever they believe in, on any issue, is by reason. People choose what they believe is right and true because that's the conclusion their current level of reasoning brought them to.

Now religion, on the other hand is a whole different ball game. For some its just pure indoctrination + blind faith. For others its sprinkles of reason + faith. The faith aspect of religion will always make sure its not 100% logical. Why? Because as cutemadridsta said above, there's the "trust me" factor. There is no reason to believe that a book compiled by men over hundreds of years was divinely inspired by a supernatural deity we cannot objectively see and hear. (Objective, because some of you claim to see that being. Or hear its voice in their heads.) Religion seems to make sense up to a certain point, and when it doesn't anymore, you just "believe" that its right because it has to be from some god. Or, try to make excuses for why that gap is there.


However, some other non religious forms of theism, or atheism, remove the faith factor, and replace it by simply saying "I do not know". I believe that is what the person you quoted meant. There's no "holy book" that fills the missing gaps. We work from the bottom up and attempt to figure things out by ourselves- by reason. Religion works from the top down- claims to already have the ultimate answer, then tries to use reason to justify it, but once a discontinuity is noticed, it just fills that gap with faith.

Bullsh*t!!!
I never made mention of religion. Why do you want to sell your idea of religion to me at the slightest opportunity, are you a preacher

My point: 100% of atheism has nothing to do with science or religion.

Lol

Thank God.

Amen

Happy Sunday

Ranchhoddas:
Read the post you quoted again.
I did not say monkey.

I think you're just messing around when you know damn well that the thread is dead. But go ahead, people are watching.

Uhomanbulus110:
Why did God allow the devil to come to the earth

Tomorrow is Sunday, don't you think it might beba better idea to save this question for your Pastor or Church leader.

IamAtribalist:
Superstitious IDIOTA

SMH

33bandit:
I doubt if I made mention of science ,and i wasn't trynna define it m typing what it was made of ,from how you view it isnt necessary suppose to be how I view it .,besides since u knew so much about it why u asking in the first place ,to prove your ignominy??

lol, no need to get worked up . 100% of atheism has nothing to do with reason or science. Atheism is simply a disbelief, lack of belief or whatever. Enjoy...

Lol

Lol

The Nairaland morose atheism crew is all they have accomplished.

lmao

DeSepiero:
Are you not thinking in the line of the poster with this question?
Demonizing such biological phenomena in humans - is it correct?

PS: I don't justify acts in humans simply because they're common to animals. We all have our moral compass as individuals and we use them as we deem rational.

Yes it is correct and has been adequately argued to be wrong.
There are other biological phenomena observed in animals that are totally unnatural for humans.
This is my point.

shadeyinka:
If animals does things expected of them no problem BUT when humans begin to imitate animals normal behaviour, its not normal!

My point...

Lol

emmayayodeji:
If I intended for my logic to explain more phenomenons I'm sure I'll have mentioned it...

Congratulations you just made a f*ol of yourself..

I guess winner won't be the winner tonight

What phenomenons? Masturbation is not natural for humans the same way paedophilia and killing of young ones is not natural for humans simply cos it's observed in animals. This means your thread is pointless.

I'll maintain this stand and reasonable people can make their inferences

emmayayodeji:
And I'm sure they agree with me because are not being reasonable....

So because I said masturbation is natural for humans.. That automatically means every animal behaviour should be natural amidst humans??

Thats basically what you're saying bro

lol. You flatter yourself , you don't even have a point.

If you argue that masturbation is natural for humans because it was observed in a monkey, then why not use the same logic for paedophilia and feeding of younger ones that occurs in several animals?
See?

Your logic is flawed.
MASTURBATION IS NOT NATURAL FOR HUMANS SIMPLY BECAUSE IT WAS OBSERVED IN AN ANIMAL.

DeSepiero:
The original post is hinged on the posters observation that masturbation as an act which is common in humans and monkeys apparently is demonized in humans alone.

I don't know how else you react to that but you seem to assume that the poster justifies the act in humans because it's common in monkeys.

There are places in the world where paedophilia occurs and we know that paedophilia is common in animals. So why do we domonize paedophilia in humans alone when its common to (not monkeys alone but) a wide host of other animals?

Lennycool:
Now you're just being willfully stupid.
Atheism is unbelief in a deity, what is true atheism?

Unbelief is unbelief. Not reason, science, debating, attempting to preach atheism on nairaland etc.

I don't think that you believe that atheism is mere unbelief.

emmayayodeji:
You are just going round in circles.. And that's not good for my IQ..

I can feel my IQ drop anytime I read your replies

lol. People are reading you know

DeSepiero:
When these animals display these behaviours, you believe it's not natural?
So its spiritual?

Quote my words and let me floor your arguments.

I do not think feeding on young ones is natural because animals do it. I bet you won't feed on your young ones too. And I never mentioned anything spiritual.

emmayayodeji:
Sorry I did not see that..
Can you prove it again?...

And if I get you very we'll. You're saying masturbation is not natural in animals and these particular monkey is possessed by the spirit of masturbation.??

Because that's all the thread is about..

Lol. This is a terrible attempt to push an argument to me.

Your post shows a monkey masturbating and you are using this act to justify masturbation as natural as well as homosexuality.

I'm rubbishing that claim with a counter-claim that animals engage in paedophilia and feed on their young ones and it does not make it natural for humans.

You are a human and should not base your actions on what animals do or don't do. A monkey masturbating proves nothing just like an animal feeding on its young ones. Your thread is a big error.

emmayayodeji:
I have nothing to prove to you...

On the contrary, I've proven that your thread is an error.

emmayayodeji:
Lmao
Ridicule Christianity?
B!tech please Christianity is riducled already

p.S I did not copy/steal it from the internet.
I watched it on NatGeo.

Shalom

Okay, no Point made still
Typical...

Shalom

emmayayodeji:
What are you saying?...

2 can play these game bruh..
When a new male Lion acquires/gains territorial sovereignty of a pride...

It is an established fact that he kills all the cubs of the lionesses in the pride. This will make the female lions come on heat So he impregnates them. He does this so the next heir of his throne will come from his seed..
Now that's totally natural for lions. And obviously not natural for humans..

Here's my point. Because you're mixing sh!t up in Ur head...

some things are natural for some species.
Some only apply to certain species and if it happens in some species it is considered as an abormination
Dont get it mixed up boy!!!

When you go online to copy peoples materials, post the link or reference. Refusal to do so is stealing.

You said "Here's my point" and went ahead to say nothing
I guess you've realized that your thread is an error.

The fact that animals engage in some sick activities makes them animals. I am human and not sick.

Feeding on young ones, homosexuality, necrophilia, bestiality, paedophilia and masturbation have all been adequately argued to be sick.
Don't justify something as normal because a monkey is doing it. This is the purpose of your thread and that is a big error.

You wanted to ridicule Christians but ended up ridiculing yourself. Don't call me names too cos I see you're getting worked up. Stay safe.

emmayayodeji:
I never denied the fact that feeding on young ones is not natural for some animals
That's a universally known fact..

Its also a known fact that dogs and goats have sex with their mothers.. That is only when they are sexually developed... Are you getting me?

Now I'm just meant to beilive your male turkey wanted to have sex with his little kid.. Really

Are you saying animals don't have sex with much more younger animals?, even those that can't reproduce yet? Not only turkeys, dogs, goats etc. Go do your research.

Your thread is an error, the fact that a monkey is masturbating does not make it natural. If you feel this is not so, then you must argue in favour of feeding on your young ones because komodo dragons do so naturally.

The same way homosexuality is not less sick than bestiality, paedophilia, necrophilia and others, no matter what you or some government says.

emmayayodeji:
Look around you..
How many adult animas do you see chasing younglings for sex??
That's obviously not natural..

Same with bestiality..

People are f*cked up in the head. We know that...

But let's call a spade a spade

One of my male turkeys tried to have sex with a much younger one that is not capable of laying an egg. My goats practice paedophilia too and even have sex with their mothers.



Komodo dragons feed on their young ones, I don't think they are f*ked in the head neither do I think feeding on young ones is natural because I saw some animal do it. I am human and I think your thread is outrightly an error.

paxonel:
I think many atheists broke away from organized religions, took the moral codes of these religions for themselves but do not have a complete guide that help them live successfully on the moral codes they adopted.
Hence, they need documentation or some kinda reference or holy book to fall back at, when the need arises or they have nothing to pass to their generations in order to main their beliefs of atheism in their offsprings.

So, many children of the atheists are consciously or unconsciously returning to theism not minding what their parents believes

Your last sentence is correct and backed by some statistical data I once saw online.

33bandit:
since our allegiance is only tied to reason and prove ,then one does not need a reference book in order to decipher common sense

Is there any proof that your allegiance is tied to reason. I see nothing like reason in the definition of atheism neither have I noticed any in the worldview itself. The mere fact that you chorus the words reason and science does not make any of these words have any thing to do with atheism.

shadeyinka:
I know.
Sometimes, their foolishness provokes me!

Shalom

lol

emmayayodeji:
I know the smart ones will have already detected the sarcasm in my post lol..

Now this is for the gullible ones Masturbation is natural!! It happens across almost all species, Same with Homosexuality

Peace!!

There are people who argue that
Necrophilia is natural


Or that paedophilia is normal sexual orientation
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/10948796/Paedophilia-is-natural-and-normal-for-males.html

Or that bestiality is natural and you should give it a try
http://shoebat.com/2017/06/21/major-american-magazine-declares-bestiality-is-natural-and-you-should-try-it-too/

Its funny I don't see many atheists supporting these sexual orientations. They stick mostly with homosexuality probably because they feel they can help them live among filthy christians

Masturbation has ruined many people's sexual lives and while some argue that it is beneficial and only harmful if overdone, it is addictive and eventually destructive.