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Amberon11:
Do you also believe that Christians are bound by one thing, which is a belief that Jesus Christ is our Lord and personal saviours? Double standards my nigga.

Naah, Ranchhoddas might even put it to you that Christians are violent, deluded and anti science

The third annual Global Atheist Convention, ironically dubbed “Reason to Hope,” has been cancelled due to dismal ticket sales, The Sydney Morning Herald and Daily Wire reports.

Turns out, offering nihilism packaged as “hope” doesn’t sell too well to the masses.

The conference, which was scheduled for February of this year, was set to be headlined by atheist novelist Sir Salman Rushdie, who was a huge get for the convention organizers. Iranian cleric Ayatollah Khomeini issued a fatwa against Rushdie in 1989 in light of his published work, “The Satanic Verses.” The book targeted the prophet Mohammad, Sikhs, and religion in general.

“What is there to respect in any of this, or in any of the crimes now being committed almost daily around the world in religion’s dreaded name? How well, with what fatal results, religion erects totems, and how willing we are to kill for them,” Rushdie once critically said of religion, SMH notes.

Fellow atheist Richard Dawkins was also on the anti-God roster.

And what atheist convention would be complete without depressed, atheistic comedians distracting us from our void and utterly meaningless existence?

“Alongside the thinkers, there was also going to be the ‘entertainers,'” notes SMH. “Comic atheism is a particularly strong strand, and religious pomposity provides it with plenty of material. No doubt there was to be a feast of gloating about census figures.”

The author of the SMH report, Anglican Rector Dr. Michael Jensen, writes that he is personally “disappointed” that the conference was cancelled.

“It’s a great shame there’s a lack of interest,” said Jensen. “I say that as someone who believes in God and thinks that it is the most reasonable thing to believe. … But I also think that the full and frank discussion of fundamental ideas is part of what a healthy culture promotes and enjoys. A Global Atheist Convention is to be welcomed, because every time people think about God and about the meaning of life is a time we more deeply consider the value and purpose of human life. It makes us better citizens.”

“But what really is the poison in the blood is not religion: it is apathy,” added Jensen. “Human beings don’t need religion to be vile. We can be vile perfectly well without it. Even viler, I’d argue.”



Sauce sorry source*: James Bishops Blog

butterflylion:


As in since the bulk of the worlds population is deluded then it should be easy to push atheism and it's agenda around the world but even they know that when it comes to delusion they hold the Nobel Prize.

No oo. Only atheists are not excluded, the rest of the world is deluded, no matter your worldview.

Atheists know they don't matter, they're only trying hard. No harm in trying though.

Martinez19:
Excuse me, you should read my post very well. One doesn't need to be mentally ill to be a murderer or a corrupt leader. Religion or not, man is wicked and selfish. However, I made it clear that the synergy between religious beliefs and mental illness leads to an explosive display of religious beliefs. I never spoke of a connection between religion and murder.

okay I'm sorry, I only wanted to show you a worse reason for murder than religion.

Are you atheist?

OtemAtum:
Guy, check the title of this thread. Do you think all these belong to this thread?

What?

No otem revelations today?

HardMirror:
Winner01, of recent I begin to appreciate you intelligence. You are absolutely right in your OP. I let he who wants to end his life, end it. But first he shld make some financial provisions for the disposal of his/her corpse.

okay

Martinez19:
This is what I said in one of my topics, religion plus mental illness leads to an explosive display of religious beliefs.

What do you have to say about the threads below?

https://www.nairaland.com/3176513/atheist-murderers-past-present-murderous

https://www.nairaland.com/2988881/atheism-terrorism-annihilation-quest-atheistic


https://www.nairaland.com/3232176/atheist-presidents-heads-state-quick

https://www.nairaland.com/3246389/atheism-bold-representative-futility-hopelessness


Cc: BlackManta, orisa37, madridguy, MJBOLT

Billyonaire:
Now you can ask sane questions and not what I own and what I intend to do. I am not here to provide you with words of how prosperous I am. I do not have to blow that Trumpet. Anyone who researches on God and is poor, is on the wrong train.

There is no way anyone can be poor with this knowledge. How ? Never.

What is the latest knowledge you received from these superhumans?

Billyonaire:
You are simply silly. I was mentioned to come over here by usernames who needed some assistance, but I knew a virus like you could come along, so Yes, I am not religious, and I am here to give you some bad dreams tonight.

Shall we begin ?

How did my harmless question get you worked up

Billyonaire:
Very silly question, I have hired over a thousand people in my lifetime and you can be one of them, but this thread is not about me. Cos most of you can not dust my sandals.

Start reading me from Day 1, since I join this childish forum and you will know the man behind the mask. I am transitioning from my Private Jet lifestyle just to save Humanity from your low levels of ignorance. I made a promise as an atheist, that if I ever discovered the reality of anything called God, that I will build housing for a million people per year, and I am fulfilling that promise.

Yes, I am egotistic, God or not God, nothing can take my pride from me. Do you now see why I have to quit the forum ?

Expected answer, give us one example of your successful businesses so we can see how valid these claims of extra terrestrial knowledge are.

Billyonaire:
Yes.

The messages are from Infinite Source. The Conscious Energy that powers the created and the uncreated worlds.

My earlier data came from Extra Terrestrial Ancestors of ours, the Reptillians, the Blue Avians, the Pleaedians and now I am connected to Source and I tune my brain as antennae to any frequencies I choose to access data from. I have access to the Akarshic Record using Frequency Resonance.

Take these messages seriously, I will not always be with you guys on the flesh for ever. And I will soon quit nairaland, not because I do not love this place. I have new businesses to build and these ideas come directly from the Source, so I will be pretty busy with many projects so, I may not be here to guide you guys. So pick up science books and programming books and read.

The God we worship are just not the Almighty. The fact that they created us and re-engineered our DNA does not make them worth worshipping. There is yet another, that created the Jehovah, the Allah, the Angels etc and above all, there is no way you can understand anything about this Universe and the Matrix except you know basic programming, esoteric sciences, architecture, astrophysics, Numerology, and even how to bath properly and put your bare feet on the green grass to earth the energy flow from 532Hz to 7.83 Hz to maintain sanity while getting these experiences.

The Churches are wrong about demonic possession. It is all brain waves and I can treat that shitt with just music tones.

I am done here, I got fishes to fry.

What earlier buisnesses have you created with the knowledge you've been getting from these frequencies?

Niflheim:
In India, a 55year old woman was raped after being accused of practicing "witchcraft"!!!.....................https://www.telegraphindia.com/states/jharkhand/one-witch-raped-another-killed-214755

Another 80 year old woman was hacked to death for the same reason!!!...............................https://www.telegraphindia.com/states/jharkhand/one-witch-raped-another-killed-214755



But let us see what others had to say about superstition!!!

Man can manipulate just anything to cause harm to other humans. Marriage, politics, religion etc have been manipulated to cause harm to other humans.

None of these have caused as much harm as atheism. I have proved this severally in my threads.

AlfaSeltzer:
op, so you want to let a jew that died 2000 years ago decide your life choices?

what exactly is your brain for?

Are you saying she should just marry whoever just to have sex?
Would you say the same to your Sister?

It does not matter. We were all sinners. Striving to live like Christ is a Christians yardstick for morality. If one does something Christ wouldn't have done, then we can judge and correct such person in love.

Atheists can do anything and argue that morality is subjective.

No one is telling you that you have no morals, however, I believe you can do whatever you want with no equal human to call you to order.

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Billyonaire:
SamjohnnyB, coolestchris

I am sorry that I have decided to limit my presence on nairaland. I can see the fire in you burning for knowledge, but trust me when I say there is an aspect of you that knows the truth when you read one. Yes, so I am only reminding you of what you are.

Do not make a mistake of telling people about what you know and DO NOT WORSHIP ANYTHING OR JOIN ANYTHING RELIGIONS OR ORGANISATIONS. This is important, because there is so much that one can experience that you think is GOD, there is no such thing to Worship. There is no real God that asks to be worshipped. We are here because we need to improve our knowledge based and advance creation. We are not our physical bodies, the bodies are just housing to protect Soul core, the conscious Spirit, the God Force.

Infinity Source, is what powers us up.

Ponder on this; What is the source of Life and Light in our world ? The Sun, right ? Without the Sun, there is no Light, and they Say the Son of God is Light unto the world ? Right ? Listen folks, every Frequency is housed by a Spirit Being. There will be no way an advance frequency that produce sound without an interface. I cant speak as Soul except I am in a physical body to manipulate the winds in my Oesophagus and use my tongue and lips to form words and send commands, like ...LET THERE BE LIGHT. The Primordial Sound came from a Frequency Being of Resonance. And they say again that no one can go to the Father except he passes through the Son, hmmm the sun ? Are you pondering what I am pondering ? The Sun is a blackhole, a vortex energy, the 11:11 Gateway into the next dimension, that one must go through into the next world. The color of the sun is white, not red, not yellow. It is the prison, sorry prism that separates the bands to 7 colors, and these seven colors represents the dimensions we must go through to experience true reality. Your Soul must become pure enough to be called Holy Spirit. That is when you materialize desires instantly with your thoughts. There are a lot of things I could do now and my life is magical.

Now listen folks. We are blessed with emotions, we love and we hate, we are happy and we are sad. We are jealous and we also are understanding. These are nothing but emotional barometers to monitor our frequencies.

The entire essence of the religious construct is to dump down our brain, to make us not to think, cos we can manifest terror and bad shhiiit, now I see the wisdom in it, but I must warn you, except you just want to prove to yourself that you are not your physical body, there is no point to Astral Project or Soul travel or leave your physical body. You are housed in that body because you knew that the Solar Flares and Cosmic background radiation will destroy your essence, which is purely interdimensional electromagnetic in nature. So do not leave your body. Study your mind and study about frequencies, cos you all are antennae, and with time, you will develop enough to know how to material your desires.

As you progress, the Universe will track you and offer opportunities and your life will change. Reduce your intake of meat and other animal source food, do not eliminate it for now, cos your vibration will spike, you can have a week of eating vegetables and fruits while studying the universe and trust your inspiration.

When you get to that point you start seeing number sequences, which I went through, then alert me. I will teach you how to ascend the frequencies. And at the appointed time your kundalini and merkaba experience will come.

Folks, you will awaken to 5D and you will have so much energy that you can achieve anything you want and I mean literally materialize what you desire. Meditation is important just to stabilize your brainwaves.

I will try as much as possible to guide you guys through but the key to having your DNA activated is research. Read everything your hand can find and trust your self to know which is true and when I say, study everyting I mean you should study all forms of sciences, metaphysics, plasma physics, programming, robotics, AI etc to fire up the neurotransmission capabilities of your brain inorder to activate your DNA.

DNA is the blueprint software that controls our sympathetic nervous system, that my friend is why you are here, when you activate those so-called junk DNA will internect you to Source and Truth will surface.

By the way, I am building a multibillion library and research center with accommodation for about 369 people per day, and the price is free for us.

I decided that when I found out what God is, that I will do this, so I am on the project now and will no longer have time to come to nairaland except I am mentioned.

The Universe needs me to do this and also provide the purest form of water for humanity, so I am building factories and these stuff that I am inspired to do, when they are finished, I am not sure I will announce it here, because I am sure you all will locate with intuitively, as I am not doing this for me, I am doing this for Infinite Source, the Conscious Essence of ALL that there is.

Universe! Activate Matrix 7777777

How did you get to know all these? Are you in contact with some outside knowledgeable being that we don't know of?

paxonel:
error and confused people in disguise of religion.
It's people like your kinda intelligence that are making atheists blasphemous to Christ on nairaland.

And when God visits you..

Pastor boy
All these my case is different people, Una no go kill people with laff.

Anyway, I'm out ,first day of the week is here,
No time for faulty religious people

You can stay back and continue your falsehood thread

Its the foolishness of your likes and other atheists that make them spend their lives on Nairaland. Don't blame anyone for your joblessness and obsession for a God you claim does not exist.

I never mentioned I was a christian but your best line of defence was a lame attempt to attempt to ridicule me Huh Freethinker
Anyone who opposes you is deluded right OK don't worry. 96% of the worlds population are deluded. You are the only custodians of truth.

The "my case is different" people are far better than you are in terms of productivity, reasoning, hardwork, care for the needy and other areas of life you can think of.
If you want to keep telling yourself you're better than them, its fine if it makes you sleep well.


Cowards!!! that's what you are.

Here is a fresh tribute on twitter from Barcelona to the "deluded, reason-void, unscientific, logic wanting loser" Lionel Messi, who is usually referred to as "D10S", a pun around spanish word Dios (God) and Messi's shirt number 10. This time its a graffiti in the city of Barcelona (A neutral setting, outside the confines of Camp Nou and reaching even a larger number of people), depicting Messi as Jesus Christ (probably meaning the Lord and saviour of football).


www.nairaland.com/attachments/6855934_img20180320121415_jpeg8bedc8ce4d695fd9a483d469112b7cd4

Maybe this one too is for glory

I'm wondering why they can't spend the money they use in all these " God idea" messages to further science, development, logic, reason and atheism since almost everyone in the world is deluded

Lirqur:
It's funny you think Democracy is for the good of man. You'll soon see the evil in it.

I'm not advocating for democracy Sir.

What system of government do you think is better?

C

TrajansKong:
This has nothing to do with the slave trade, colonialism and how your magic book came to infect our cultures.

Unbelievers don't defend psychopaths just because of shared notions. Humanity matters. People matter. Slavery is wrong because we like people.We are people. An atheist mass murderer is a mass murderer. Who cares? None of this is hard.

Again, for our Naija Christians: Is your potential salvation worth the destruction f our societies and the enslavement and brutalisation of millions of our brothers and sisters

This has NOTHING to do with atheism...

I won't honour you with a discussion on religion.
I've previously made my point. Slavery predates christianity and it was Christians who eradicated it.

Tell me what atheism did concerning slavery?

ameri9ja:
Why r u obsessed with book. The same book also says we should stone people to death for various sins - something totally odious to the christian spirit. I can assure u, if a slave owner imbibes the Spirit of Christ, he won't be a slave owner for long. He CAN'T!

Don't forget that Christ stood against religious zealots ready ti stone an adulterous woman to death.
Atheists may tell you Christ stood against the Bible

CuteMadridista:
Keep raising strawman

Chief evader

I hail you Sir

TrajansKong:
Please!!! At the very least, read your magic book. The rules for owning, beating and selling people and their children were given by your god to his people and, by extension, to oyinbo and yourself as an even more turbo-charged believer.

Read your damn Bible! Enslaving others is a fundamental tenet of your faith.

How about atheists actions on this thread?
What motivated them?::

https://www.nairaland.com/3176513/atheist-murderers-past-present-murderous

ameri9ja:
The Bible is a BOOK that has been around for millenia, and, like anything that has to do with man, could have easily been corrupted.
True Christianity is guided by spirit not book.
And things like slavery and other human atrocities are immediately repugnant to that spirit.

You get time sha. Turn their question on them. Atheists don't like to speak about what atheism can do or has done. Its a void and odious worldview. They become dumb when you ask them questions on atheism. Do not honour them by discussing religion with them.

CuteMadridista:
The same Christ that saw nothing wrong in slavery? let's see how much dishonest statements you'll make

Oga, Christians that are against slavery are against it inspite of Christianity not because of it so this is nonsense

Another attempt to shift, this discussion is really making you uncomfortable haha

Who cares about shifting? What did atheism do about slavery?

Answer that reasonably, only then can you qualify for any discussion with a christian on slavery.

What did atheism do about slavery

TrajansKong:
Very few unbelievers were brave enough to declare themselves publicly during this period. It was similar to Nigeria or most of Black Africa today. They would have been persecuted, shunned, called devil-worshippers or even physically attacked. You will find that most atheists actually like humanity. There is a hatred of hurting others that comes through fellow-feeling not threats of punishment from a jealous, angry sky-god. Slavery sucks. Simple.

Her is an early unbeliever, Robert Ingersoll on Slavery.
https://archive.org/details/africanslaveryin00lcinge

Enjoy

lol...
Is this your idea or did you read it from atheist websites?


Do you have any idea of hatred of non religious people from atheists??
Check out my proof of atheists murderous tendencies:

https://www.nairaland.com/3176513/atheist-murderers-past-present-murderous

Think freely guys, don't be clouded by atheistic bigotry.

Question atheism.

CuteMadridista:
stop attempting to shift, you're making your desperation obvious

no one is arguing if Christians fought against slavery or whether they ended it, Christians have always been on each side of almost any divide. Christians are always fighting against something and Christians are always fighting for the same thing. from slavery to abortion to samesex marriage to capitalism to democracy to military etc
Christians are always fighting for and against each of them. look for any controversial topic and you would see Christians on both sides


I'm saying the bible endorsed slavery so any Christian against it does so inspite of it not because of it. you're busy fighting a strawman you put up yourself

Christians are people who want to be like Christ. We all know the type of life Christ lived.

If Christians created a mess and cleared their own mess, what is your issue

Slavery predates Christianity, Christians ended slavery.

Where is atheism or atheists in all of this? Why can't you tell us what atheism has done or what it can make you do?
Does atheism just make you a talkative and nothing more?

Atheists are specialists in telling us what religion can't do or has done wrong, but will never tell you what atheism can do correctly.

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In their obsession, they don't care about history or what Christianity have done correctly,

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I see christians building hospitals, I see christians building educational institutes, Prestigious institutes such as Havard, Princeton, Oxford, Cambridge and several others were founded by christians. I see christians building countless orphanages. Christianity runs the largest charity in the world, Christians spend their time in hospital deathbeds-giving hope to the hopeless, in prison cells-giving hope to the condemned, in camps of people who have been rendered homeless by terrorists spreading help and encouragement, consistently engaging in village outreaches amongst others. I see christianity putting smiles on the faces of people. Countless people have become disciples of Christ through the love shown to them. I don't see atheists doing anything but ridicule religious people and their beliefs.

Specialized talkatives

See how happy the villagers below are due to a christian charity organization. What does atheism do or make you do
Talk?

TrajansKong:
Have you read your Bible?? Have you read your god's commands on buying, selling and punishing slaves

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Slavery_in_the_Bible

This is the same framework that led to the removal and slaughter of millions of Africans.

If anything, WIlberforce was going against the teachings of his magic book.

Okay!!!


Atheists ended slavery!!!

Case closed!!!

CuteMadridista:
Off target!

The Bible endorsed slavery so any Christian against slavery is against it inspite of the fact that they were Christians NOT because they were. its obvious whatever made them go against it was something outside the Bible not something inside it

But the internet is at your disposal guy, Christians ended slavery.

What did atheists do about slavery?

Since atheists are historically illiterate and won't bother to read but regurgitate stale lines from atheist high priests, let me just copy and paste this here:





Isn't it remarkable that atheists, who did virtually nothing to oppose slavery, condemn Christians, who are the ones who abolished it?

Consider atheist Sam Harris, who blames Christianity for supporting slavery. Harris is right that slavery existed among the Old Testament Jews, and Paul even instructs slaves to obey their masters. During the civil war both sides quoted the Bible. We know all this. (Yawn, yawn.)




But slavery pre-dated Christianity by centuries and even millennia. As we read from sociologist Orlando Patterson's work, all known cultures had slavery. For centuries, slavery needed no defenders because it had no critics. Atheists who champion ancient Greece and pre-Christian Rome somehow seem to forget that those empires were based on large-scale enslavement.

Atheist Michael Shermer says Christians are "late comers" to the movement against slavery. Shermer advanced this argument in our Cal Tech debate in December. That debate is now online, and you can watch it at michaelshermer.com.

But if what Shermer says is true, who were the early opponents of slavery who got there before the Christians did? Actually, there weren't any. Shermer probably thinks the Christians only got around to opposing slavery in the modern era.

Wrong. Slavery was mostly eradicated from Western civilization--then called Christendom--between the fourth and the tenth century. The Greco-Roman institution of slavery gave way to serfdom. Now serfdom has its problems but at least the serf is not a "human tool" and cannot be bought and sold like property. So slavery was ended twice in Western civilization, first in the medieval era and then again in the modern era.

In the American South, Christianity proved to be the solace of the oppressed. As historian Eugene Genovese documents in Roll, Jordan, Roll, when black slaves sought to find dignity during the dark night of slavery, they didn't turn to Marcus Aurelius or David Hume; they turned to the Bible. When they sought hope and inspiration for liberation, they found it not in Voltaire or D'Holbach but in the Book of Exodus.




The anti-slavery movements led by Wilberforce in England and abolitionists in America were dominated by Christians. These believers reasoned that since we are all created equal in the eyes of God, no one has the right to rule another without consent. This is the moral basis not only of anti-slavery but also of democracy.

Jefferson was in some ways the least orthodox and the most skeptical of the founders. Yet when he condemned slavery he found himself using biblical language. In Notes on the State of Virginia Jefferson warned that those who would enslave people should reflect that "the Almighty has no attribute which can take side with us in such a contest." Jefferson famously added, "And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are the gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath? Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just: that His justice cannot sleep for ever."

But wasn't Jefferson also a man of science? Yes he was, and it was on the basis of the latest science of his day that Jefferson expressed his convictions about black inferiority. Citing the discoveries of modern science, Jefferson noted that "there are varieties in the race of man, distinguished by their powers both of body and of mind...as I see to be the case with races of other animals." Blacks, Jefferson continued, lack the powers of reason that are evident in whites and even in native Indians. While atheists today like to portray themselves as paragons of equal dignity, Jefferson's scientific and skeptical outlook contributed not to his anti-slavery sentiments but to his racism. Somehow Harris and Shermer neglect to point this out.


In the end the fact remains that the only movements that opposed slavery in principle were mobilized in the West, and they were overwhelmingly led and populated by Christians. Sadly the West had to use force to stop slavery in other cultures, such as the Muslim slave trade off the coast of Africa. In some quarters the campaign to eradicate slavery still goes on.

So who killed slavery? The Christians did, while everyone else generally stood by and watched.




Sauce sorry Source*:

https://townhall.com/columnists/dineshdsouza/2008/01/14/how-christians-ended-slavery-n962085

CuteMadridista:
absolutely NOT! it wasn't BECAUSE of Christianity but INSPITE of Christianity

Christianity fully endorses slavery so if slavery was ended it would be inspite of it not because of it

Don't mind them jare, it was atheism that ended slavery.

ameri9ja:
But it was ultimately BECAUSE of that religion, Christianity, that slavery ended!

They don't care about this

The bigotry is cloudy.