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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Convention, ‘reason To Hope,’ Cancelled Because No One Wants To Go by winner01(op):
purem:
But did you know that killing and murdering is not the only hazard that can come from a villain?

Maybe Christian case is worser than killing and murdering

After all God first started mass killings so it's not a new thing undecided
Actually Christianity is still booming in China despite the crackdown

Although we still have serious infringements on the fundamental rights of people to freedom of worship. Like Christians held by police in chinese
government crackdown
.

hundreds of Christian pastors jailed, face being poisoned for trying to preach gospel

China bans churches' to create safe environment' for G20 summit, in another excuse for the officially atheist government to silence religious views it does not agree with?

North Korean border guards are
now watching for products coming in from China that bear
markings resembling the Christian cross and blocking their importation into the country, in a bid to eliminate all traits of christianity forever, as if prohibition of christianity was not enough.



The truth remains that, [url=evangelicalfocus.com/world/1851/Christianity_is_growing_among_Chinese_youth]if religion is left to itself, it will always grow.[/url]





Secondly, I do not know what god engaged in mass murder.

Non humans do not murder. The word murder is meant exclusively for humans. A lion that attacked a man fatally cannot be said to have committed murder. Lions are not murderers

That being said, if you've ever sold or repaired any of your property, you can be said to be guilty of your accusation considering the fact that those properties are inanimate and you didn't even create them.

If one creates something and destroy it, he has all the right.
The Almighty God who created humanity has the right to withdraw or cancel out His creation whenever he wishes, with no one to question such authority. After all we didn't ask to be created.

Mazda automobile company took and destroyed a significant part of their creation, and it was perfectly understandable

So why are mere humans concerned when their Creator decides to take them back, like they have any authority to question their Maker.

You see, your authority ends on ranting on social media. You do not have the right or ability or authority to question your Maker. Your Maker owes you nothing.

God is not the man you have created in your brains. Gods has all the authority you can ever imagine, including complete authority over your life.
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Convention, ‘reason To Hope,’ Cancelled Because No One Wants To Go by winner01(op): 11:39am On Mar 24, 2018
Ranchhoddas:
What's the point of this thread?
The point you think was made.
Christianity Etc › Re: Communist Leaders And Atheists; Is There Any Difference? by winner01(op): 1:20am On Mar 24, 2018
KingEbukaNaija:
There is no single difference !!!
not even 1 grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Convention, ‘reason To Hope,’ Cancelled Because No One Wants To Go by winner01(op): 8:26pm On Mar 23, 2018
purem:
China
Rubbish. Do you know China has more number of christians than nigeria.

China has a christian population of more than 1,349,585,838, U.S.A (316, 668,567), Nigeria (174,507,539), Russia (142,500,482), Japan (127,253,075).

http://www.newsweek.com/china-christians-jesus-x-jinping-social-services-welfare-711090


https://www.opendoorsusa.org/christian-persecution/world-watch-list/china/
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Convention, ‘reason To Hope,’ Cancelled Because No One Wants To Go by winner01(op): 7:52pm On Mar 23, 2018
purem:
As I was looking at this story to be a framework of some brainless theist am still very sure that there was a country right now as am typing that has eradicated Christianity in her whole horizon undecided
which country is that?
Jobs/Vacancies › Re: British American Tobacco Nigeria Latest Job Recruitment (8 Positions) by winner01(m): 3:42pm On Mar 23, 2018
You sure say those positions dey vacant undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheistic Nuisance, Barcelona And Chelsea by winner01(op): 3:35pm On Mar 23, 2018
Ranchhoddas:
For your truth.
Tell us the truth na.
Christianity Etc › Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by winner01(m): 11:58am On Mar 23, 2018
Butterflyleo:
Even you can not believe how that legendary goalpost shifter got you to start towing his train of warped reasoning grin

He was asked one simple question and rather than address that, he has been rambling on about things he was not even asked but somehow in his meaningless ramblings he was still very careful not to mention one thing atheism has to offer humanity cheesy

That guy is far better than Messi cheesy
Dalaman is known to be really good. Good at strawman fallacies and goal post shifting. Loads of crap and you get to repeat the same things to him over and over. I noticed he might be going through some issues that keeps fueling his rage against God. I hope he calms down soon.
Christianity Etc › Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by winner01(m): 11:54am On Mar 23, 2018
dalaman:
You can not show me how the hope and comfort your religion sells to you gives you an advantage, a specual ability or makes your life better than that of others that do not subscribe to your religion but yet you want me to tell you what atheism offers humanity?

I am not here to tell you what atheism offers but to tell you that you believe in the lies and false messages of other men that has nothing to do with the reality we know and see around us.

Name one advantage or special ability the message of hope and comfort your religion offers you that puts your life above mine. Name just one.
Stop dribbling and twisting guy. Tell us what atheism has to offer. All these mental gymnastics coated with fury is stale.
Christianity Etc › Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by winner01(m): 11:53am On Mar 23, 2018
dalaman:
Leave him, Islam as a religion offers extremist like Boko Haram hope, comfort and special abilities. Boko HAram and Isis for example have Hope and truly believe that they will conquer the world for Allah and make sure that Islam is established as the main religion of the world. They have hope and Islam offers them comfort. But in reality they will never be able to achieve what they have set out to do. Isis has been completely decimated, they are about to to annihilated, same with Boko Haram but they still have hope that Allah will give them victory at the end. The reality of the matter is that no matter their hope and feel good positions about their course they will never succeed. They will always fail.

I live among christians back in Nigeria and I see the way they deceive themselves over the false messages of hope and comfort that they are being taught. They pray with NO results to show for it.I'd there is ever a solution it is always through their abilities or the abilities of others around them which they end up attributibg to their imaginary God. They suffer and face the same fate everybody suffers and faces in Nigeria. All of them are just cash cows for their pastors, apostles, daddy's and other men of God in general.
Leave story.

Tell us what atheism has to offer.
Christianity Etc › Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by winner01(m): 11:52am On Mar 23, 2018
darkchild64:
butterflylion keeps talking about the "hope" and "fulfilment" that religion offers and the "emptiness" and "hopelessness" atheism offers
Bro if a man is facing challenges and he chooses to drink alcohol,he would forget the problem for a while but does that mean the problem is not there no,another man in his position may choose to accept his situation and make efforts to change it rather than try to forget it like the former

Religion is like alcohol,it tells you that everything is going to be alright,while we welcome the hope we are all about the result,imagine a woman with cancer,religion tells the kids to pray and have faith and "God" would surely hear their prayers and heal her
On the other hand an atheist or any objective person recognizes that her chances of survival is quite low so s/he makes the woman and her children recognize that ,however she is subjected to every possible medication available to help resolve her situation.

Atheism is simply the lack of belief in any deity,it is not something instituted to bring people hope and motivation,there are millions of ways one can find hope and motivation in life,what atheism simply does is give one courage to solve ones problems and also show people the reality of life and not give them empty promises no super daddy is coming from the skies to help you so you must work hard,this might seem negligible to you but it is not my business to make you understand, think whatever you like
Local champion, is this your version of Nigerian atheism grin
Several foreign atheists whom y'all look up to explain atheism differently.
Christianity Etc › Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by winner01(m): 11:49am On Mar 23, 2018
Tonyosas101:
Let me get this straight
Religion is more of hope, comfort, promises
Atheism is more of reality and how to go about it
Reality is not all there is

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Christianity Etc › Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by winner01(m): 11:44am On Mar 23, 2018
dalaman:
Jesus christ as the son of God? That has not even been established, many christians are yet to tell us if Jesus is God himself or the son of God separately. These issues are yet to be resloved even among christians but that is a topic for another day.





So the help you speak is mythical and fictional since it has no direct bearing on your life and can not be seen or observed by any body outside your body of delusion.
Ive said it before that you guys always make empty claims. You claim Christianity offers hope and comfort , when asked to measure up you are now saying that it is spiritual. The spiritual is meaningless and always a copout because it means nothing in reality. When you want to run away you just jump to the spiritual realm because at that realm anything can be asserted because nobody expects any accountability, proof or evidence qhen it come to that.




No we don't. You are making empty claims. Only humans help each other Gods do not help anybody in reality. In fictional and alternate realities like the bible and Koran for example you see God helping people directly but in the reality we know that remains a lie.
It is humans that must help you always. Gods do not help people, there is absolutelyno evidence for that.



What is the very essence of humanity and how does atheism negate it?
You're lucky I don't have your time.

How did you even lure me into discussing christianity with you on a thread that asks what atheism has to offer? grin

You said atheism has lots of things to offer and became dumb when asked to state those things. Stop dribbling like Messi and state what atheism has to offer. If you can't then keep quiet, you mustn't be a bigot because of atheism. undecided


No one care about your twisted opinions on reality, atheism has been preached throughout the ages of humanity, yet its still as stinky and repulsive. Tell us what atheism has to offer.
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Convention, ‘reason To Hope,’ Cancelled Because No One Wants To Go by winner01(op): 8:03pm On Mar 22, 2018
Seun:
Stale news from last year. Atheists don't feel the need to go all the way to Australia to meet because we have atheists in every city now. ;-)
Stale but very much alive. Are you saying there were no atheists in every city during the 1st and 2nd convention. grin

Seun, always try to be honest when it comes to atheism grin
Christianity Etc › Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by winner01(m): 7:59pm On Mar 22, 2018
butterflylion:
grin cool

It seems you know the guy and his long unnecessary stories while shifting around to everything yet without saying what he was asked.
Dalaman is a specialist in typing long sermons without meaning.
Christianity Etc › Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by winner01(m): 7:57pm On Mar 22, 2018
wirinet:
I can compare you to a wailing wailer, the same way PDP and it's allies are still pained that their hero lost the last presidential elections and are extremely bitter and sometimes hateful towards the ruling party and their supporters, that is the way you guys are pained that some people left your religious party ( Christianity ) and have chosen to live happily as freethinkers or atheists.
Ad hominem grin


wirinet:
For your information there is no atheist community here on nairaland or elsewhere in Nigeria.
Local champions. Search Facebook for Nigerian atheist movements, I've seen about 2 Nigerian sponsored adverts on Facebook, promoting their arm of hopeless atheism grin


wirinet:
The problem poverty, hopelessness and directionless is caused mainly by greed and materialism, which is being promoted by your religion Christianity. Buddhism, shintoism, Hinduism and even Judaism does not promote crass materialism and so do not suffer those issues of hopelessness and lack of meanings to their lives.
Atheism is just personal conviction of lack of any diety worthy of worship, so I do not understand how that can give any others hope.
Greed and materialism is caused by those who have no regard for God or humanity regardless of whatever they claim to believe.

And don't lump other worldviews to atheism and claim they don't deal with issues of hopelessness. Atheism is secluded in its dreamland of a godless utopia. Christianity does not promote materialism either. Christ who all Christians strive to imitate did not preach materialism. And If you give me examples of those not following the teachings of Christ, then be prepared for examples of those who seem to be actingbout the real effects of atheism.

Atheism is a lack of belief that seeks to spread its foolishness to other scenes of humanity. This is why y'all spend your life on a religion section preaching atheism dishonestly and ridiculing religious people.
After hundreds of years of this act of foolishness, humanity still remains largely religious.


wirinet:
Atheism is simply a rejection or a disbelief in any God. That is the only common denomination, after that there are a million and one shades of atheists, you have the materialistic atheist, you have the spiritual atheist, the militant atheist, the pacifist atheist, there is even the Christian atheist, (those atheists who believes in the teaching and ideas of Christ but do not believe in the diety of Jesus or in any other Gods.
But do you agree when we say Christians are bound by a "belief in Jesus as the son of God", after that there are hundreds of denominations.
Do you call out dalaman and other atheists when they triy to lump together all religious attrocitoes commuted by Christians with christianity undecided

That's where your bigotry comes in.


wirinet:
Atheist conventions cannot work because there is nothing to discuss in such meetings. What else is there to discuss? Are atheists going to a convention to reinforce their beliefs that there is no God? Will there be music, drinks and motivational speeches at the convention?
The only people that would be interested in such conventions are undecided atheists.
Foreign atheists are not toothless dogs like Nigerian atheists. They have organizations and have held international conventions which have all recorded ridiculously low turnouts.
Atheists organize and go to conventions for the same reason you are onna religion section trying to advocate for the superiority of atheism.

wirinet:
Atheism cannot and had never pretended to offer those things you listed above. Anyone that need hope, motivation, direction and comfort, better try pentecostal Christianity, they offer tithe, offerings and complete submission to the pastor in exchange for those things.
The prominent atheists whose quotes I gave on the first page seem to disagree with you.
I'm my opinion, they are smarter, more intelligent, have more depth in atheism and most importantly are much more honest than most Nigerian atheists. This is why they have honestly exposed the hopelessness of the atheistic worldview.
Christianity Etc › Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by winner01(m): 7:36pm On Mar 22, 2018
dalaman:
Life has been difficult and is difficult for most people hence they need by various people to find ways to lie to people and explain them in the name of religion to accept what ever they imagine and think for them that they feel will give them hope or make them live according to the way they want. Christ telling his followers that things won't be easy means nothing because things have been hard for many people since before any story about Jesus was written. But then there are many christians that will disagree with you about the claim that Jesus said things will be heard for people. All these prosperity word of faith preachers and christians will totally disagree with you.
Yawns!!!

Who said hardship began with the era of Jesus?

Also many Christians will disagree with that doctrine the same way several atheists will disagree with all the trash you're saying. A belief in Jesus Christ as the son of God is what binds us regardless of doctrinal differences.

Doctrinal differences can be argued within Christians not by atheists who believe everyone else is deluded.


dalaman:
No help will come from any where apart from your fellow human beings. Jesus does NOT help christians, there is no evidence to show that christians are having it better than non christians at all or that they are getting any help from any where better than non christians . If you fall sick with a terminal illness you will have to go to the hospital the way anybody else does and seek proper medical attention, if you are involved in an accidentand you break a limb you'll have to go and follow the normal process every body follow to get healing. You'll go to the hospital and a POP will be used or any other method will be used and you'll wait for weeks before your bones will come back to the way they were. Jesus will NOT help you or heal you in a day or two once you have a fractured bone in any of your limbs. You have to work to earn a living either legitimately or illegitimately like every other person. Jesus will not and can not give you anything you want without you working for it. You will have to get an education, move around and travel wide to gain knowledge and awareness like every other person. Jesus can never give you any type of education or professional knowledge or any thing without you going out to seek for it like any other person.
You too talk. I've had this same argument with you. Of course Christians don't have it better than non Christians and no Christian was promised a rosy life either. Jesus Christ and his disciples did not live long, they were not the wealthiest of humans (materially). The help we speak of is spiritual. Uplifting the spirit and helping us to maintain a healthy christian life in the race for eternal glory.

Everything else you've said is trash

dalaman:
At the end of it all. You get no help from any external source. The only help you'll get when you are in trouble or in Nedd has to be from your fellow humans. Jesus can never help you. Jesus can never feed you when you are hungry. You have to vigorouslyhustle or if you are lucky get help from someone. Jesus can never come and give you food even if you are straving..
We all get help from external sources. When God wants to send help, he uses man. Jesus has helped me in many ways. That you hold the belief that yourself and about 3% of the world are the only custodians of truth is okay of it will make you sleep well.


dalaman:
Human beings can be made to change their out look towards life and help each other more so that their stay on earth will be easier for them all instead of lying to themselves that some external force will help them when they are in bed or in trouble. How does the hope for tomorrow or a better world negates the atheistic worldview? Atheism is the disbelief in God's and not a world view that is negates the hope of a better tomorrow. That remains your own making and it is a lie.
Why should your stay on earth be easier? Is that what your delusion teaches?

Atheism is an hopeless and empty worldview that negates the very essence of humanity.
Quit shifting the goal post and explain what atheism can do for humanity.
Christianity Etc › Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by winner01(m): 5:04pm On Mar 22, 2018
dalaman:
Where did I admit that I have no hope comfort and anything to offer? All I said is that religions offer FALSE hope, comfort and feel good messages that are FALSE and have nothing to do with reality.
Why are you just jumping all over the place and who asked for your opinions on religion. Your opinions don't matter.


dalaman:
Atheism has a lot to offer. But it doesn't have lies and false hope to offer like religion does..
Why is it so difficult to mention one of the goodies atheism has to offer? undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by winner01(m): 4:52pm On Mar 22, 2018
dalaman:
The reality is that life is hard, it's short, filled with ups and downs and the struggle for survival itself is a heavy load for most of us, and as humans we are all that we have. Everything that man has to do must be done by man himself. We as humans must solve our problems, there is no help that is coming or will come from any where. That is the bitter reality.
Well, this is shortsighted. You sprinkled heresy with elements of truth so as to deceive people. Yes life is hard and all that and Christ specifically told his followers that things won't be easy. The falsehood in your quote is that "no help is coming", for if you really believed this, then taking your life (suicide) should be the best option in this world full of struggles. Your existence would have been pointless. Also, you would have to be wicked to bring forth children to this world of struggles just so they can live, struggle, have the illusion of enjoyment or not and then die.

Either way, your claim is inconsistent with the lives of many atheist. You all hope for a better tomorrow, for a better world. This negates the atheistic worldview.


dalaman:
Religions tell people lies and offer them some comfort and hope that there is a better place for them after they die(since this life is hard) if only they will accept their way of life or that there is this invisible entity that will be there to help them and make things better for them during the course of their life time if only the adhere to some teachings and ways of life. The message may sound good and all hut at the end of it all it is empty, false and has nothing to do with the reality we know.
This is your opinion on religion just like other bigoted atheists.

I did not ask your opinion on religion, I simply asked you what atheism has to offer humanity. undecided

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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Convention, ‘reason To Hope,’ Cancelled Because No One Wants To Go by winner01(op): 4:36pm On Mar 22, 2018
Kinggnicole:
No point made
Yet again
What other point is there to be made on this thread undecided

Atheism is hopeless and odious, offers only hopelessness, hope has been shown to be a vital part of humanity. Many people stay alive/survive today because of the hope for a better tomorrow. Even yourself hope for a better tomorrow. Humanity does not want to have anything to do with hopelessness and this is why atheism has gained little traction over all the generations of humanity.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Convention, ‘reason To Hope,’ Cancelled Because No One Wants To Go by winner01(op): 4:30pm On Mar 22, 2018
Kinggnicole:
You sound so unintelligent now

Atheism is personal and based on personal convictions. Many atheists don't even feel the need to join atheist groups. There have been atheist and freethinkers gatherings in the past that held. There are also religious gatherings that didn't garner as much publicity as expected so what's your point?
I wonder what the OP hopes to achieve with this post.

Petty
Tell me one single atheist gathering In the past that met its expected attendance/population undecided

Don't just say trash without evidence.

Do you also believe religious people when they tell you "religion is personal" undecided If so, why dont you call out atheists who try to lump together all religious atrocities undecided
You sound bigoted .
Christianity Etc › Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by winner01(m): 4:26pm On Mar 22, 2018
butterflylion:
Winner01 this is a classic confirmation of the OP from a very popular troublesome atheist here on nairaland. See the words in red and blue. grin

He admits he has no hope to offer, no comfort, no encouragement, nothing but bleakness and emptiness.
He admits he has no hope, no comfort, nothing to offer and yet still subtly manages to ridicule religion. Is this thread about religion for Christ's sake grin
Did I not tell you they will try to ridicule religion no matter what grin



dalaman:
I'll always chose the bitter reality over false hope. I understand the positive message of hope and inspiration religions throw around to gain adherents, the message of a better future, a guiding and helping hand that will make things better in this cruel journy of life and all, I undertand, the message and its importance to the human society as a whole and all that, but at the end of it, it's nothing but selling snake oil. It's just a mirage and there is no there when you get there as far as religion and its rhetoric is concerned. It's always empty platitudes at the end of it all.
Guy, can't you just tell us what atheism has to offer? grin



"Among the repulsions of atheism for me has been its drastic uninterestingness as an intellectual position. Where was the ingenuity, the ambiguity, the humanity (in the Harvard sense) of saying that the universe just happened to happen and that when we're dead we're dead?"
-John Updike
Christianity Etc › Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by winner01(m): 4:18pm On Mar 22, 2018
dalaman:
Where did I say atheism has hopelessness and emptiness to offer? Can you pls show me?
Mental gymnastics grin

What is your own version of reality?
Christianity Etc › Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by winner01(m): 4:17pm On Mar 22, 2018
dalaman:
I repeat accepting reality as it is is better than the false hope and lies that religions offer. Better to accept reality as it is than to rely on the false hope and feel good messages of men there were invented to benefit just a few in reality.
What is the reality you have accepted? Can you spell it out for everyone to see?
Christianity Etc › Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by winner01(m): 4:16pm On Mar 22, 2018
dalaman:
Firstly you lie when you say that the world is gradually degenerating into a chaotic place. The world is much more organizational and human beings are much more civil and humane now than they were like 5000 years ago. Back then humans were mostly primitive savages.

Having said that, I'll always chose the bitter reality over false hope. I understand the positive message of hope and inspiration religions throw around to gain adherents, the message of a better future, a guiding and helping hand that will make things better in this cruel journy of life and all, I undertand, the message and its importance to the human society as a whole and all that, but at the end of it, it's nothing but selling snake oil . It's just a mirage and there is no there when you get there as far as religion and its rhetoric is concerned. It's always empty platitudes at the end of it all.
Please what is the bitter reality?, and why do you think its always empty platitudes at the end of it all? Have you been to the end? undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Convention, ‘reason To Hope,’ Cancelled Because No One Wants To Go by winner01(op): 3:30pm On Mar 22, 2018
dalaman:
What did they tell the organisers? Can you quite it let's see? Where did any atheist said they rejected the invitation because it was hopeless?
sorry sir, why do you think they rejected the invitation grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Convention, ‘reason To Hope,’ Cancelled Because No One Wants To Go by winner01(op): 3:24pm On Mar 22, 2018
PrecisionFx:
Stop fooooooooling your self.
Sorry Sir.

How am I fooling myself?
Christianity Etc › Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by winner01(m): 2:42pm On Mar 22, 2018
butterflylion:
All they do most times is mock and be sceptical in a monotonous manner that even their fellow atheists are getting tired of the whole repetition as shown via the link I posted from winner01.

My advice to atheists especially those on nairaland is this.

1. Show us how much you care and not how well you mock

2. Show us how I can give my life a meaning and not how to live a meaningless life by telling me that I would die one day and become manure and everything about me ends there.

3. Show us how to have hope and not hopelessness.

4. Show me what atheism has to offer me that would be positive to me and my community and make me valuable to the world.

5. Show me love (if you have it) because you cannot give what you do not have. Show me the love in you and not the hatred in you (because this hatred is seen in practically all nairaland atheists here).

6. Strive to Catch up with the notable religious achievements which have aided the world to be a better, more productive and appreciated place by doing something a lot more useful with your time rather than religioshaming me or mocking me for not being you.



Cc: Shadeyinka, Emmanystone, sonofthunder, sciencewatch, cutemadridista, dalaman, felixomor, ishilove, seun and all others.

Lalasticlala, mynd44 can we get more inputs via the front page?
Brother na fight you dey find oo grin

Atheists can't provide all these things you're requesting oo

If na to ridicule religious people and their beliefs, they can provide that one abundantly. grin

Let's see maybe they can do without shifting the goal posts or ridiculing on this fine thread grin

Let's see what meaning atheists have to offer. smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Convention, ‘reason To Hope,’ Cancelled Because No One Wants To Go by winner01(op): 2:22pm On Mar 22, 2018
butterflylion:
LMAO so atheists rejected the hope other atheists were offering them? grin cheesy

What they told the organisers was simple.

We all know we are hopeless so how can you who is among the hopeless now want to offer me "reasons to hope" when even I know you are hopeless. cheesy

Mathew 15:14



Cutemadridista and dalaman come and see o. They said atheists reject a hopeless invitation. LMAO I don die with laugh for here o


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Cc emmanystone and ishilove please help me call the other atheists attention abeg una.

Fantasticlala abi na lalasticlala and mynd44 front page sturvs dey here o.

Make I call seun like God called Adam.

Seun ooooo omo baba mukomuko where art thou? cheesy
Hilarious grin

Could this be a corroboration to the prediction that atheism is in decline and will be defeated by faith undecided

But really, its clear as day that all atheism offers is hopelessness and no purpose even though several atheists like to act like theists and attach purpose to different life. Most Nigerian atheists are serious bigots and that's why they will almost never admit to the hopelessness of atheism in the course of an argument. Here are some prominent atheists admitting to the hopelessness of the atheistic worldview;



In a debate the atheist activist Dan Barker had with a Christian apologist by the name of James White; Barker remarked: “There is no purpose to life, and we should not want there to be a purpose to life because if there was that would cheapen life”.

It is also evident that many atheists also feel the nihilistic force behind their philosophy, as in the words of the late William Provine:

“Let me summarize my views on what modern evolutionary biology tells us loud and clear … There are no gods, no purposes, no goal-directed forces of any kind. There is no life after death. When I die, I am absolutely certain that I am going to be dead. That’s the end for me. There is no ultimate foundation for ethics, no ultimate meaning to life, and no free will for humans, either”.

Provine would also say that “No inherent moral or ethical laws exist, nor are there any absolute guiding principles for human society. The universe cares nothing for us and we have no ultimate meaning in life”.

Further, after Richard Dawkins had penned his best seller The God Delusion he recounts some concerns forwarded to him by his readers; Dawkins recounts:

“A foreign publisher of my first book confessed the he could not sleep for three nights after reading it, so troubled was he by what he saw as its cold, bleak message. Others have asked me how I can bear to get up in the mornings. A teacher from a distant country wrote to me reproachfully that a pupil had come to him in tears after reading the same book, because it had persuaded her that life was empty and purposeless. He advised her not to show the book to any of her friends, for fear of contaminating them with the same nihilistic pessimism”.

Yet despite such existential nihilism Dawkins tries to lessen its effects: “Presumably there is indeed no purpose in the ultimate fate of the cosmos, but do any of us really tie our life’s hopes to the ultimate fate of the cosmos anyway?”

If that’s not enough, the atheist chemist Peter Atkins goes as far as to call us “children of chaos,” and that “the deep structure of change is decay. At root, there is only corruption, and the unstemmable tide of chaos. Gone is purpose; all that is left is direction. This is the bleakness we have to accept as we peer deeply and dispassionately into the heart of the Universe”

Jon Casimir, as cited by Marsden, is forthright: “Here’s what I think. There is no meaning of life. The whole thing is a gyp, a never-ending corridor to nowhere. What is passed off as an all-important search is basically just a bunch of philosophers scrabbling about on their knees, trying to find a lost sock in the cosmic laundromat”.

Existentialist Jean-Paul Sartre goes on to articulate his nihilistic epiphany: “I existed like a stone, a plant, a microbe… I was just thinking… that here we are, all of us, eating and drinking, to preserve our precious exis tence and there’s nothing, nothing, absolutely no reason for existing”.

Similarly depressing is philosopher Thomas Nagel’s words; he explains that “It is often remarked that nothing we do now will matter in a million years. But if that is true, then by the same token, nothing that will be the case in a million years matters now. In particular, it does not matter now that in million years nothing we do now will matter”. In another of his works Nagel believes that “Even if life as a whole is meaningless, perhaps that’s nothing to worry about. Perhaps we can recognise it and just go on as before”.




This is true for everyone with an atheistic worldview. Naturally, it negates the existence of humanity. Many Atheists don't care that existence first should not make sense to them before anything else.

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Many atheists also don't care that life itself does not make sense and this is why they have tried to explain away the supernatural occurrence of life using evolution. This goes to show that several atheists are not really looking to question life or its phases, they simply want the world to be what they want it to be.
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This has led me to the conclusion that most atheists are skeptics, not doubters, as nothing will make them believe in God.
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Its only unfortunate that we have allowed them to affiliate the words science, reason and logic with atheism for too long without letting them know all these have nothing to do with atheism.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheistic Nuisance, Barcelona And Chelsea by winner01(op): 1:24pm On Mar 22, 2018
Ranchhoddas:
This is a lie and you know it!
So what is the truth my friend?
Christianity Etc › Re: Farewell To A Beautiful Forum by winner01(m): 11:18am On Mar 22, 2018
Billyonaire:
4. If you want to know what God is, what the Universe is, how the matrix works. Learn Quantum Physics, Study Programming then Research on Consciousness, Energy and waves and frequencies.
But dalaman, johnydon22, frank317, cloudgoddess and many atheists here have been doing this since they became atheists, for years probably. undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Convention, ‘reason To Hope,’ Cancelled Because No One Wants To Go by winner01(op): 11:13am On Mar 22, 2018
terrezo2002:
When foolish people gather to discuss, I wonder what what they will talk about. How to make fellow foolish people?
The convention should have held and let's see what the outcome of their gathering would be
Lol @foolish people grin

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