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obonujoker:
Bro, the design and Fabrication of the entity "man" makes me believe so.... I know that a being like Man cannot just appear on the scene...

Science never postulated that humans appeared on the scene just like that. What theory of evolution says is that the specie called homo Sapiens (modern man) took billions of years of trial and error and many failures before arriving at the scene as it is today. It's only in theology that man suddenly appeared complete in a day.

obonujoker:
Many sir...... Google it....

Infact a roman giant was recently discovered

Post links. You don't ask someone to waste his time searching for information to prove claims you made.

obonujoker:
Also in those days, the Nephilim were wiped out too... And there were proofs of Giants too.

Where are the proofs of the Nephilims, are there skeletons, fossils or DNA? Except you want us to Gorgons, Centaurs and Vampires because they are written in a book.

Grandmeister:
You are educated but like many educated Nigerians you lack the ability to actually THINK for yourself and question dogma..you lack the ability to learn and unlearn what you've been taught in school..that is why Nigeria is were it is today..so many graduates and professors, little to nothing to show for it....that you believe that 'constant little explosion' is the reason life happened on earth is ridiculous...my question is HOW DOES AN INANIMATE EVENT CREATE LIFE?? We all know what explosions are...they are thoughtless, they destroy and do not create...so these random, inanimate, thoughtless explosion SOMEHOW formed the earth and SOMEHOW made both it's external and internal environment to be able to breed and sustain LIFE, all by CHANCE?? From the ozone down to the minerals in the soil and the LIVING billion microbes that makes the plants to sprout forth...it all came about by a billion billion billion billion billion chance? From a random thoughtless inanimate explosion?? If you actually believe this then you CANNOT be helped..

I just opened my mouth by the amount of ignorance being displayed in a few lines. Why not grab a basic geography book to learn the basis of how the solar system works. You will find some useful information in SSS 3 geography text book.

Energy from the sun comes from nuclear reactions from the conversion of hydrogen into helium at the core. The covert ion relation follows the E = MC2 law, so energy is produced in the former of electromagnetic rays. These rays leave the sun surface and reach the earth in about 8 minutes. It's these rays (energy) that gives life to all living things on earth. Plants and phytoplanktons take energy directly from the sun, animals take this energy from the plants and phytoplanktons and other higher animals still take this same energy from the animals. Without the sun, there will be no life on earth.

Also learn a little bit about the formation of the solar system. The sun and the planets formed about the same time.

You talk about where Nigeria is today. Nigeria is in the mess we are in today because we apply faith to scientific problems. We have people like you who discourage scientific learning and education in favour of religious indoctrination. You guys and Boko Haram discourage learning in favour of religious indoctrination.

Grandmeister:
Flesh and blood did NOT reveal this to you...how the supposed 'enlightened' atheist wannabes want me to believe that this complex universe down to the very complex microbes that exists in the soil, ALL coexisting together, all PERFECTLY designed...look at the wonder that is MAN..a being that has the ability to invent, to study, to teach, to love and to hate..a being whose compassion goes beyond it's own specie...you tell me man came from a random, inanimate,thoughtless explosion?? That this life sustaining earth came from an unplanned, one in a billion billion unique explosion? That the spacing of the earth from the sun to sustain life is all one fvcking act of luck and chance that only happens in a billion billion billion billion billion Russian roullete? And somehow this makes sense to them??

I don't even know where to start to begin to address your ignorance. It's so bad, that one probably needs to start from kindergarten.

ALL are not coexisting perfectly designed. The universe is a very chaotic place, with no evidence of design. 99.9% of plants and animals that have lived on this planet are extinct - destroyed. That microbe, you and the earth will one day be gone - destroyed.
It's the billions of explosions going on in the sun every second that sustains ALL life on the earth.

The spacing between the sun and the earth is not constant and is gradually extending outwards as the sun losses mass. It's presently in the habitable zone, which is the temperature where water can exist in all 3 states. It a few billion years, it will leave the habitable zone. It will be too cold to sustain life. Venus will then enter the habitable zone (whether venus can sustain life even in the habitable zone is another matter. It was believed Mars was once in the habitable zone and that it contained life.

Abbeybailey:
That's why I wonder that the coons here want to impose on us the same kind of semi despotic leaders that have been ruling Nigeria for ages. If they can support Trump with his dictatorial tendencies, they will support Buhari, Obasanjo, Abacha Babangida and others with the way they are ruling or ruled Nigeria. I pray to high heaven most Nigerians are not like these brain dead coons and trolls.

Some of them supported Abacha and actually held a 2 million man march and a three day concert for Abacha, to beg him to continue the good works he had been doing as civilian president.

JustforMen:
I would say that believing in religious fairy tale may be inaccurate but at least it approaches the reality of truth.

Abeg explain how a fairly tale about a God (any of the Gods) coming out of nowhere and creating with his mind, hands and words approaches reality?

Scientific fairy tales of something coming out of nothing does not even rise to the dignity of an error. It is worse than nonsense.

How then do a God coming out of nothing rises to the dignity of an error?

We must posit a first cause, according to scientific truth, for any sort of motion to be initiated and we know that the first cause must be outside the body its influencing. So how sensible is a 'big bang' without a first cause?
Religious narrations can be taken as metaphors but the scientific fairy tales of the beginning of life requires more 'faith' than religion to believe.
I would say aspects of both religion and science are true and correct but both have some aspects of truth that have not been discovered.

Why must we posit the first cause? Why must there even be a first cause?
The hypothesis that the first cause must be outside the body of the cause is just mumbo jumbo. First cause is first cause, there is no other cause before it, else you tell me God also must have a cause (even if it is outside the universe).
Scientific principle follows evidence and data. It attempts to provide the best explanation for observable data. Oya, use your God to explain red shift of distant objects and the microwave background radiation.
If religious explanations are simply metaphors, what then are the actual explanations? What are they explaining?

Abbeybailey:
Wirinet my man. You left that mental midget Cat speechless by posting the incestuous Trump feeling and kissing his own daughter. The mental dwarf has been going through Google but he could not find anything to counter you. See how quickly he went into hibernation like Alaska Polar Bear. Good job buddy.

Don't mind them, very sick people. His type are the ones that empowers despots and dictators around the world. There are millions his type in North Korea that have donated their existence to Kim Jong Un. They don't even care about the value and welfare of their own lives any more, but only for the pleasure of their cult leader.

elunico:
The Dems be thinking the institutionalized hate against Trump is enough to guarantee them victory come Nov 3rd. They are in for some rude awakening.

It's not only Dems that has institutionalized hate against Trump. Most of Europe, Africa and the Middle East are United in their institutionalized hate against Trump. Most decent and moral human beings has institutionalized hate against Trump.
This is simply because Trump first exhibited institutionalized hate against everybody that is not white, rich or powerful. He has institutionalized hate for Mexicans, Muslims, immigrants in general, blacks, African countries, poor people, etc.

DCatt:
Hehehe! So pedophilia is a not a crime against humanity?

Obama is the child predator and Trumpis not responsible for that.

I know that the below is appropriate in your liberal wobut unacceptable to we conservatives. Just brace yourself for a lot of pictures like this.

Your pervet gods are criminals.

So after Scowering Google for hours, this is the only picture you can find? I am waiting for you to search very well to find more pictures of Obama in inappropriate picture poses with children.
Donald Trump has tens of inappropriate pictures with Ivanka, not to talk of other women.

DCatt:
That's his daughter, the person on Obama's slap isn't his daughter. No one is allowed to carry other people's children like that.

Same reason a man can kiss his daughter on the lip but an outsider can't.

It's called daddy's little girl.

Daddy's little girl, a man kissing his daughter on the lips. Always sexually suggestive gestures? Is that how you show your little girl children love? How do you then show your little boys love - Daddy's little boy.

Is it also called daddy's little girl when you make the following comments about your own daughter?

I'll be “dating” her if she wasn’t my daughter.

Don’t you think my daughter’s hot? She’s hot right?”.

Here are more pictures of Trump showing daddy's love to Ivanka.

NoFilter67:
lol, dem never see anything, the protest palava will die down soon, I like how the senate just dey ignore their rubbish, FISA probe is ongoing, and lots of folks are gonna be prosecuted. Payback, we'll get em

Can't you place a bet on it? We have been waiting for Hillary Clinton, Obama, James Comey, clapper, and deep state actors to be prosecuted forever. The irony is that it's only Trump's close allies that are being prosecuted.

DCatt:
That's only in you liberals deranged minds.

We don't make baseless accusations, we can't even finish talking about you liberals crimes against humanity.

Oh. You have now changed the topic to crimes against humanity. You can't swallow the fact that your messiah is a child predator that preys on his own daugher.
Here are snippets of proof that Trump abused Ivanka.


Now, what will you say if it was Obama that was seen in these pictures with any of his daughters?

DCatt:
Obamais is married to a man, so Obama is the wife and Michael/Michelle is the husband.

The same way Trump commits incest with his daughter.

You guys are not the only ones that can make baseless slanderous accusations.

DCatt:
Trump will be reelected and it will be the greatest time in American history, by then your democrat lords causing problems would all have been housed in Gitmo.

We have the first real president in a long time, America will be free from the deepstate.

That was the same way Hitler was elected to make "Germany great again". Till today, Hitler was one of the most popular and loved German leader. Million of Germans (especially teenagers) were ready to lay their lives for him. He distrusted the military so much, he created the SS. He perverted all German democratic institution for his sole purpose. Everyone against his ideology was deepstate. He weeded out all military, party members, civil servants who were not loyal to him. All minorities became irritants to be eliminated.

This is the same path your Trump wants to follow.

Kobicove:
Who even gives a damn about this?

We all should. It gives us a rough idea about the history of life on earth.

hammed71:
Trump getting reelected is going to be a disaster for America.

That will be the end of the US as we know it. He will be embolden to do anything. He will bypass congress and congress will no longer be able to hold him accountable to anything. He will weed the military of professional soldiers and bring in young inexperienced Generals who would be loyal to him and not the constitution. You know he has hollowed out the state department and many other departments of experienced civil servants already. Even the judiciary will not be spared. He is currently filling the courts not with experienced and impartial judges, but with young inexperienced partisan loyal judges.

Crysthaniel:
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It is true that encyclopedias refer to over a million species of animals. But Noah was instructed to preserve only representatives of every “kind” of land animal and flying creature. Some investigators have said that just 43 “kinds” of mammals, 74 “kinds” of birds, and 10 “kinds” of reptiles could have produced the great variety of species of these creatures that are known today. The ark had about 40,000 cu m (1,400,000 cu ft) of usable space​—ample for the passenger list

I have asked a million and one times on the forum for you Christian boko haram (more like Science Haram ) to define "kinds" you guys like to substitute for species. Can two kinds products a viable offspring? Is an eagle and a condor one kind? Is a llama and a camel one kind? What of a python and a boa?

40,000 cubic metres for a wooden vessel that was/is expected to float on water? Why not give us the actual dimensions and construction techniques involved, since you understand the science and technology behind such vessel. Remember, there were no cranes, power tools or even manpower ( only Noah and few family members) involved.

Your guys know how to ask extensive details about any scientific discovery but get annoyed when asked of just one detail of your fairy tales.

Reading the entire first page is very sad. Very sad that Nigeria is becoming the illiterate capital of the world. Nigerians youth cannot even read the entire story to assimilate and understand what is under discussion. They just read the headlines and a few of the opening sentence, and start veering off into religious mumbo jumbo.

I think we should shut down our universities and convert them to theological institutions - churches and mosques. Afterall, students are more likely to become pastors and imams in Nigerians universities than to become scientists and logic thinkers. Our universities no longer believe in science and research, but just issuing out degrees for the sake of paper qualifications. We will remain a third world country for a very long time, as we depend on other science and technologically advanced countries to help us solve our basic problems, at huge costs.

Ignorance is really bliss and the mind does have to worry about difficult and troubling questions.

CanadaOrBust:
But how do u convince a jury that a PO, FULLY AWARE he was being filmed, INTENTIONALLY killed a man?? Why would he wish to lose his job and possibly spend the rest of his life in jail??

Arrogance and systemic corruption in the police department. He must have gotten away with such behaviour numerous times in the past. The fact that the other 4 officers looked on and even participated in the murder indicates that such behaviour is the norm in the police department. The fact that the police pathologist could perform an autopsy and hurriedly concluded that other factors like drugs and heart condition also contributed to floyds death without taking a look at his medical history and the toxicology report shows that cover ups for such is institutionalized.

ijedeikorodu:
Tensions flare between Trump, military figures over handling of George Floyd unrest

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-military-tensions-george-floyd

The tensions between the president and the military figures come as a letter was circulated by Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Mark Milley Wednesday reminding military leaders about their oath to the U.S. Constitution.

"Every member of the U.S. military swears an oath to support and defend the Constitution and the values embedded within it. This document is founded on the essential principle that all men and women are born free and equal, and should be treated with respect and dignity," Milley wrote. "As members of the Joint Force – composed of all races, colors, and creeds – you embody the ideals of our Constitution. Please remind all of our troops and leaders that we will uphold the values of our nation, and operate consistent with national laws and our own high standards of conduct at all times."

Emperor Trump may be losing the support of his generals,

And some Trump's goons afflicted with self hatred wants trump to send troops on US soil. I keep saying that they are very poor student of history. They most probably have not heard of Omar Hassan Ahmad al-Bashir, Hosni El Sayed Mubarak and Ben Ali. Even Putin (Trump's hero) dare not bring out the army against Russian civilians.

larrysworld:
In a case of this magnitude, it is very risky to overcharge. The prosecution seem to be taking the case on the face value based on the heat it has generated in the public hoping it will go into the courts with the same steam. There is a vast difference between a 2nd degree murder and 3rd degree murder even though they are both murder charges. In the 2nd degree murder charge, you have to proof there is an INTENT to kill rather than INDIFFERENCE to human life in the 3rd degree charge.

Now intent is quite difficult to prove as it is not usually a clear cut case and this is the reason some prosecutors stay off 2nd degree murder charge unless there is compelling evidence. If going by what we saw on the video, the best will be a 3rd degree murder charge to ensure the officer does not walk because we can't prove intent he wants to kill, he was simply trying to make an arrest and the unfortunate happened due to his indifference (carelessness) regarding human life. If they go for 2nd degree and are unsuccessful in proving intent, then the officer would walk. Mind you, the juror has to be unanimous in their decision either guilty or not, just one juror disagreeing will lead to mistrial. To bring the case for a 3rd degree murder after having charged a 2nd degree; they would have to declare a mistrial and re-litigate the case all over again.

Now this is my opinion: There is more to this case than we really understand or can see. The two people apparently knew each other and even though George Floyd (RIP) was not a saint, he does not deserve to have his life cut short. I have a feeling that the prosecution might "intentionally" want to bungle this case for reason best known to them (i.e. was this done to intentionally start a race riot in the country). A similar case happened in Baltimore in 2015 and the guy walked because the prosecution could not prove their case.

America is a very litigious society. Don't forget their law is called Criminal Justice System; not Victim justice. It is the criminals that seem to get more justice at the end of the day not their victims.

I agree intent is usually difficult to prove. But in this case, from the video, its very obvious. So, unless the defense is mental instability, i don't see how you can choke a man for 9 minutes and then say you don't intend to kill him. The man was practically pleading with the officer not to kill him. The man informed him that he cant breath. He stopped moving and the officer did not let go of the choke hold. If the officer had let go of the choke hold and the man in the ambulance on the way to the hospital, then you can argue, he did not intend to kill him. But the man died before the arrival of the ambulance.

If after the clear cut video evidence with lots of witnesses, the police man (men) walks free, then there is something fundamentally wrong with the US justice system.

And some stupid goons will com,e here and suggest Trump declares martial law. It will split the army into racial, ideological and political lines.

MT:
In law, you need to prove beyond reasonable doubt. With the toxicology report, it is tough to argue that the drugs found in his blood was not a factor. You will see a lot of fireworks in court over this. Another dimension is the jury, the prosecution teams are to convince the entire 12 jurors. Then another remote consideration is fair trial . The defence lawyer might argue that based on the sensationalism of the case, there is no one in Minnesota who hasn't formed opinion on the case, so his clients might not have access to fair trial. Remember that jurors will be drawn from Minnesota. As incredible as it may sound, the case might never make it to trial , not to talk of conviction.

I know the court says "prove beyond reasonable doubt", watching the video, is there any doubt that George Floyd was not choked for over 8 mins? If you talk about technicalities, you might have a point, but if we are to talk actual evidence, i don't see the ambiguity. Its like shooting a man in the heart on video and in the presence of many witnesses and then claim that its not the gun shot wound that killed him but some other underlying conditions.

MT:
I think you missed the point sir. That autopsy report is good for the prosecution. The defence lawyer would want to establish that his underlying medical conditions are partly responsible for his death. With this report , the defence lawyer can't explore that because the report says even though he is asymptomatic, that plays no role in his death.

Bro, it's a tough case that hangs in the balance. You can never know which side the jury will swing.

I honestly don't see how this case hangs in the balance. The whole scene is captured on clear video, no ambiguity. Even if there are underlying conditions, the video showed that he died as as result of being chocked. The prosecutor can simply put the police officer under the same conditions he put George floyd and see if he survives. If he survives for 8 minutes handcuffed with his hands at the back, with a knee on this throat and two other people with kneeling on his chest and ribs, then it will prove the choking didn't kill him.

Qstorm:
In 2015, while Obama was President, 38 Unarmed African Americans were killed.

In 2019, while Trump was President, 9 Unarmed African Americans were killed.

Deaths of Sandra Bland, Tamir Rice, Eric Garner, Freddy Gray, Philando Castile, Trayvon Martin all happened under the Obama admin, yet he didn't do jack shit, now the loser is mouthing off like he's the best thing that happened to the black race and some muthafuckin retards on here got their mouths stuck on his butt hole.

Oh! It's because Obama did not do anything when 38 Unarmed African Americans were killed during his 8 years of presidency, that Trump also will not say or do anything when a blackman was gruesomely executed and the police was trying to cover it up? Trump also must be so obsessed with Obama, that he literally walks in his shadow.

Qstorm:
The sight of Obama makes me sick. The hypocritical bastard is the worst thing that happened to America.

How is Obama connected to the matter at hand? Is Obama still the president? We are talking about Trump's incompetence as president and all you can think of is Obama. Obama must be living rent free in your head.
Whether Obama makes you sick or makes you dead, He is more popular and loved than your tin God.

Zuorom:
They would have still taken him there if he refused. Even if it means dragging him there by force, they will do it. You think those guys are Trump loyalists? If Trump loses the elections in November but refuses to hand over, those same guys would bundle him out of the white house and transfer their services to the new president. But he won't lose so they'll be protecting him for another five years

Are are you sure he won't lose? What happens if he loses? Will you guys go on rampage or start an insurgency?

The poll numbers and sentiments are not good for Trump right now. So unless something extraordinary happens between now and November, like coronavirus virus suddenly disappears or the economy gets a huge boost or even a war breaks out with Iran, the chances of Trump winning is quite slim.

Zuorom:
Trump didn't bring out the military to stop peaceful protesters, it's the looting and destruction by Antifa that he wants to stop. Nobody needs to be shot and if Antifa stops rioting nobody will be shot but suggesting that the president shouldn't do anything while a group of criminals go about burning, looting and attacking innocent citizens is a no no. What do you want Trump to do about the Antifa rioters?fold his arms and look the other way? That will be a deriliction of his duties. Btw, hope you know it's better that it's the army that is shutting them down than a situation where other citizens get fed up and decide to take the laws into their own hands?

That's why I say Trump(and his supporters) are very poor administrators. Criminals always take advantage of crisis situation. Always . A good administrator will try and resolve the real issues first before going after the criminals. How do you isolate the protesters from the rioters when they are embedded within the legitimate protesters. The army bullets would not discriminate between protesters and criminals. Criminals should face the justice system and not be summarily executed and the protesters should be engaged diplomatically.

Zuorom:
Complete Anarchy is what Trump is trying to prevent by sending the military to shut the Antifa rioters down. They are saying they want to take their riots to the suburbs, do you have any idea what will happen if these Antifa fools are allowed to take their riots to the surburbs? They will come face to face with right wing America most of whom are gun owners so what do you expect will happen next?

You mean the protesters in all 50 states are Antifa members?

Sending in the military to shoot protesters will lead to anarchy. You must be a poor student of history. Dictators who send in the army to kill it's citizens often lead to a violent revolt, civil war or overthrow. Romania's former dictator Nicolae Ceausescu turned the military on the people, and it ended badly for him.

garetz:
You are the one sounding ridiculous, can you even imagine the ridiculous example you gave to compare what's happening in America? A man was killed by cops in Georgia and you want President Trump to do what? Call for the killing of the the cops or what? Imagine a president coming out to pass judgement before the investigative process and judicial process is concluded, how does that sound to you? Even Obama didn't do that when black people were murdered by cops during his time and I don't recall any of you hypocrites complaining then. Trump didn't make any threats to anyone until the rioters started looting, destroying and burning down people's properties. You want him to fold his hands and give the rioters a free pass to continue their destructive actions?

Are you guys emotionally challenged or you have no iota of humanity in you? Have you watched the video at all, and if you have watched it how did it make you feel? Seeing a human being (forget he is black) being killed in such a gruesome manner. Even humans beings in Germany, UK and other countries are appalled.

It's much more than a man being killed by cops. Afterall, this is not the first time a blackman is being killed by white cops. It's the gruesome manner that is enraging people.

The whole country is grieving right now, there are protests in all 50 states. The best a president should do is to console the whole country. No one is saying he should order for the execution of the police officers, what he is expected to do is console the family of George Floyd, console the state of minnesota and promise justice for the George Floyd.

You will notice that cities where the protests were very peaceful were where the police chiefs engaged the rioters in a friendly and amicable manner. Some even matched with the protesters.

garetz:
You're the one sounding pathetically ignorant. Trump is the president and you want him to come out and pass a guilty sentence on the cops before a judicial process is complete? Did you ask Obama to do that when the likes of Eric Garner and Trayvon Martin were killed? He did what he needed to do as president, ordering the FBI to investigate the matter and promising the people that they will get justice. So labeling antifa a domestic terrorist group is an unguarded statement? Why if I may ask? You are angry he is doing his job in an election timeline? I don't even want to talk about your most pathetic comment of all that Trump ran like a frightened lunatic or a fat pig into an underground an underground bunker, there is nothing to say about that senseless comment other than you are pathetically ignorant.

You guys are sounding more ridiculous everyday in your attempt to defend the incompetence of Trump.

Let me give you a small example of something similar here in Nigeria while I was a student at IFE (University of IFE ).
Around 1988, during one of the protest by students, one student was shot and killed by a policeman. This exasperated the situation, and students was about rioting, the then V.C. Prof Wande Abimbola quickly reached out to the student union and called for an urgent meeting with with the students. The meeting was set for the football field at the sports centre. The V.C. who is an Ifa priest came wearing his full Ifa regalia. As rude as the students were, he spoke calmly and asked everyone to sit down. He himself sat on the bare ground and discussed with the student leaders. After about 1 hour of intense negotiations, the V.C. ordered the police off campus, and a major catastrophe was averted.
Professor Wande Abimbola's tenure was the only period I recall that there was no major riot in IFE. A good administrator listen to grievances and calm the nerves of aggrieved people, not issue threats.