₦airaland Forum

Originalsly:
What legal right does he have to authorize seizure of vehicles because of COVID-19? Why are you not yammering about the governor being above the law?...is it because he is a PDP and Igbo state governor?

And later on we will be wondering how he became a dictator.

That's my problems with my igbo brother's brothers, when it goes around the rejoice and claim superiority, but when it comes around, they wail and play the victim.

Tomorrow, if Buhari should use executive order to seize their planes, trucks and houses, they would should UN, UK, Hague, etc., but when any of their heros use the same executive order to seize Hausa or Yoruba properties, they would become ecstatic with joy.

GamalNasser:
One Kobojunkie and his fellow CNN puppets will not like this ,... Chloroquine and Artemisinin have consistently delivered a 99% cure rate and just yesterday an study showed chloroquine could even act as a very reliable prophylaxy by preventing infections in the first place especially for those at the Frontline but yet Satanic agents with an agenda and dull people are waiting for a hurry put together RNA vaccine that will not go through proper trial and is expected to kill 15% of it's users ....is this world not mad so?

Thats why I say trumpism split the cords connecting the left brain from the right causing trump worshippers to suffer from cognitive dissonance.
You insist that RNA vaccines to go through proper trails, but bark at the idea of hydroxychloroquine going through proper trials.

Where is the clinical trials and results that shows that hydroxychloroquine and artemisinin has 99%
Cure rate? Most reputable doctors and institutions have dismissed the effectiveness of Hydroxychloroquine in treatment and curing of coronavirus. Let's see the clinical trials.

Toluwarnih:
unlearned atheist won't believe the truth, YEC does not base its claim on what u think, it only uses the reference from the scripture as a backup of its already discovered facts

The same way it uses the scriptures as a back up for already discovered fact that the earth is flat

TheAfricaQueen:
Knowing how basic, rudimentary and barely literate our Non-leaders are, my reference to savings was the barest minimum they could have done with the oil wealth they accumulated in 64 years and they couldn't even achieve that.

Saving is not ideal for a country with so much infrastructural deficit among all other deficits. If they feel they are too incompetent to build infrastructures such as roads, power, railways, schools, hospitals, etc. They should have invested Nigeria's money in businesses abroad, which will earn Nigeria huge revenue for a very long time. UAE invested in numerous US ports and they rake in billions yearly. It is foolish to borrow money to build rails, roads and power at high interest rate and at the same time save for a rainy day

At the beginning of this democratic dispensation, governors like Tinubu, Ibori and Odili invested a few millions in Econet. A few years later the investment multiply many fold, but due to greed, the Governors sold the shares and pocketed the money. Imagine if the Governors had not sold the shares how much extra money would have been available to their states today. They would not cry if they did not receive oil allocations from Abuja.

TheAfricaQueen:
For 64 years Nigeria sold oil, there were many years of the oil boom, when a barrel was sold for at least 100 dollars a barrel and at most 160 dollars a barrel.

Why did Nigerian Non-leaders not save for a rainy day? Why did they not invest in a Sovereign Trust Fund that would accrue interest for Nigerians? They used the glory years of the oil boom to loot Nigeria into the dark ages and under-developed every sector in Nigeria.

Now that the sh!t is hitting the fan, it is the middle class, working class and people bellow the working class that will suffer. The Non-leaders have stockpiled monies enough for their generations yet unborn.

Vote wisely next time Nigerians, use your votes wisely, do not sell your votes for a bag of rice/5000 naira/free buffet food and drink on election day.

Very wrong. This is the world Bank and IMF stupid policy promoted by their lackeys like Okonjo-Iweala. A good business philosophy is not save save and save, it's invest invest and invest. IMF and world Bank never advice the industrialised world to save. It promotes investments in those places. U.A.E and Qatar did not lay much emphasis on saving, they invested their oil revenue massively around the world and in their own countries. Today, UAE does not even bother about oil.

If you save for a rainy day, what happens if the rains doesn't stop? What happens if it rains for years? You would exhaust your savings very quickly and still go abegging. What happens if the oil you rely on dries up, how long will your savings last you.

Besides, inflation always eventually catches up with savings but never with investments. The value of your savings diminishes year in year out.

Instead of Africa to be investing in infrastructure, agriculture, industries, health and education, we are talking savings.

kovic20:
I thought Yoruba said she is not Igbo? Kai Yoruba, yoruba!
https://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/lol_idi_amin.gif

You people are too obsessed with Yoruba. A thread that should be all about igbos, and you find a way to involved Yoruba. Now if Yorubas respond back, you will accuse the Yorubas of commenting on igbo affairs.

Now, instead of this thread to be a rallying point for igbos, it will quickly degenerate into a igbo vs Yoruba mud fest as usual.

SLAP44:
For Nigeria, the collapse is inevitable. The union forged in 1960 was a disaster from day one.

It will also collapse on your head and the head of your family, clan and tribe.

The union was forged and forced by your fathers and grandfathers, because they felt they will automatically get power to rule the whole country.
And after failing to grab power by democratic means, they attempted (and actually succeeded for 6 months) to take the forceful (military) route. After also failing to rule the whole of Nigeria by military route, they decided to split the baby they created in the first place.

feedthenation:
At least before Obama goes to your 'imaginary prison', he busy acknowledging teachers on National Teachers Day and bringing smiles to their faces during this health emergency time. Can Trump be as proactive as Obama?

There’s no limit to the devotion I’ve seen in teachers like these @ChiPubSchools educators. Their dedication shapes the best parts of who we become. I couldn’t be more thankful for their work, especially as they shift lessons online to keep students on track during this crisis. pic.twitter.com/xYECcrAxdE

— Barack Obama (@BarackObama) May 6, 2020

You have time to be arguing with schizophrenics, they exist in their own alternative universe.

I will just add theses facts;
Trump and most members of his organisation will go to jail ever before Obama.

Obama till today is far more popular and loved than Trump will ever be.

Obama beat trump in almost every metric of measurement, be it education, personal achievements, marital life, achievements as president, etc.
Trump cult worshippers might start commiting suicide because of Obama.

Beautifulminde3:
You ranting end here, it doesn't change the fact, go and study international waterways law, also read more about Danube river which more than 12 countries use, Danube empty in black Sea just like River Niger to Atlantic Ocean.

You guys (IPOB youths) are so ignorant and arrogant at the same time, I really feel pity for the average igbo. They really give the otherwise intelligent tribe a very bad name. I blame the elders for not educating their youths on the reality of things instead of letting them live in make believe world.

This poster is telling me international law will force a people or country to allow people they are not friendly with to pass through their waterways. I have not seen such agreements before. If these IPOB youths were old enough, they would have known that Abacha attempted to dredge the river niger all the way to Kaduna through Onitsha. Ijaw youths confronted the contractors and prevented them from dredging through their lands. Even Obasanjo attempted same, and was equally resisted by the ijaws.
You can read here to get a glimpse of the obstacles of dredging the river niger, even up to Onitsha;

River Niger dredging will cause trouble
The IMG has always opposed the dredging of the River Niger but the federal government has again commenced the project. The environmental impact assessment issues have not been resolved and the government wants to go ahead. We have rejected it again. We have also told communities along the River Nun to attack the dredgers to protect our environment. Government is looking for trouble and they will get it. The global climate change signal is enough for us to protect our heritage. No sane Ijaw man or woman will rely on the federal government EIA and allow dredging of River Niger.

We are back in court. Our lawyer, Femi Falana, and another Ijaw lawyer, Wilson Ajuwa, are back in court. The reasons I went to court during the military era are still there. The tsunami that destroyed the delta in Asia, where riverine communities in Malaysia, Indonesia, Bangladesh among others were submerged with flood was a bitter lesson to mankind. So only a mad person from our region will accept the government’s EIA.

Our argument is clear. We will not allow any ship to sail past our communities from London, Japan, USA Canada or any part of the world to the proposed inland new port at Baro near Abuja, built with over N80 billion while all our seaports in Warri, Burutu, Akassa, Koko, Sapele are dead
http://www.ijawmonitor.org/news.php?ct=4&article=97

These IPOB youths insulting other tribes as a reason and means of achieving secession have no idea on the intricacies and complexities of what secession entails.

loganx:
Discipline is a leadership instrument when the leader is discipline there is no way a follower can be indiscipline and get away with it.

This is also the chicken and the egg situation. Which is responsible for which?
An indiscipline leadership causes indiscipline society or and indiscipline society leads to an indiscipline leadership.

Thejustw14:
With all due respect sir, is it not an act of indiscipline to suggest that the country be locked down for 2 months without palliative measures in place.:!!:.

We are in a catch 22 situation. Lockdown the country and the poor masses will die of starvation without adequate palliatives, or allow free movement and allow businesses to open and the masses will still die of sickness if social distancing and other disciplinary measures are not adhered to

Choose one.

sammyj:
This man must be high on something. How does this have to does COVID 19 pandemic got to do with anti corruption committee and the question we should be asking him is how do we feed the masses for two more months

When/if the masses starts falling sick and dying enmass because of Covid 19, the masses would be more bothered about surviving.

Abilistic:
Just like the Nigeria government is the CORRUPT and RECKLESS government on earth.


During this difficult period of Lockdown I make money sitting at home, check my signature

And the government is manned by who? - Nigerians.

I have been trying to understand the allegations and I still don't get it.

This is from the very first paragraph of the article;

The Coalition of United Political Parties (CUPP), on Monday, alleged that it has intercepted a human intelligence report that the Nigeria House of Representatives leadership was poised to forcefully pass the compulsory vaccine bill without subjecting it to the traditions of legislative proceedings.

The Coalition of United Political Parties (CUPP) said it has intercepted a human intelligence report. Can't someone explain what a human intelligence report mean?

Furthermore, as long and voluminous as the report is, it did not give any details about the bill. Is its supposed to be about vaccines in general or specifically about a coronavirus vaccine (as we know a coronavirus vaccine is not available yet, and not expected to be available for at least 1 year). As it is most children born in Nigeria are already vaccinated against polio, measles, small pox, etc. We really need to know the details of the bill before we start getting worked up.

Mintum:
Even after using many days to think about your response, you still made no sense. Na from village Dem dey follow you? You made an accusation that Trump confessed that he grabbed women by the pussy, many people corrected you that what he said is that when you are a star they will allow you do anything, they will even allow you grab them by the pussy. That was what the argument was about so don't come here to change mouth and start talking nonsense. Raumdeuter posted the Trump quote word for word and you went and brought your own quote to disprove him but your eye problem didn't allow you see that your own quote confirmed exactly the same thing Raumdeuter posted. Your own post proved him right and proved you wrong. Make sure you visit that eye specialist, you really need am.

Using many days to think about a response? You must think I am seun that feeds my family from nairaland.
Which woman allows you to grab her by the pussy because you are are star? Will any woman in your family allows someone grab her by the pussy because she is star struck?

Once again, Trump was talking about himself an nobody else. This is purely Trump's personal worldview. This was a conversation about what Trump intends to do to a lady they are looking at, and what he had been doing in the past. You cannot take the remark in isolation of the whole conversation last.
Many women had actually come out to confirm this habit of Trump by accusing him of forcefully kissing them or groping them.

I know there is a disconnect between your two brain hemispheres, so you can never understand it unless you get a brain surgery.

XX01:
You have made my point for me. White paper was submitted April 2014, so what is the argument? He didn't have the political will to implement it between April and Feb that was the election.

The argument is, why did it take two years for the white paper committee to review a report that the Oronsaye Committee took 8 months to prepare?

Mintum:
Haba wiri, abi you no dey see well again? The transcript you posted literally confirmed what the person you quoted said verbatim. Read the post you quoted and read the transcript you posted again, everything raumdeuter said is repeated word for word in the transcript you posted yet you couldn't see it? Now might be the right time to pay that long overdue visit to the eye specialist.

You need to pay a visit to a brain surgeon, your left brain is disconnected from your right brain and surgery is needed to connect them together.

You obviously were blind to the context of the discussion and all that was said before the "grab em by the pussy". You guys just isolate this remark and invent whatever context you like.
This was Trump just before the "grab em by the pussy"

"Trump: Yeah, that’s her. With the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know, I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. "

Trump was using I and was not a generalisation or talking about a third person as you guys dishonestly want to imply. He was vividly describing how he intends to forcefully kiss a particular woman and his regular habit of molesting and sexually abusing vulnerable women. He is excusing and justifying the abuses because he is a star. He has this warped notion that stars have the rights to abuse women.

raumdeuter:
Trump said "And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything"

So who did he grab by the pusssy?

So if You say when I am rich, I will fly to Hollywood and marry J.Lo.

So can I say you have done it already? And accuse me of marrying J.Lo

Na wa o. See twisting of story. Even trump and his handlers did not twist the conversation as convoluted as you have done. They simply claimed it was locker room talk.

Now here is the full transcript of the talk;

Trump: Yeah, that’s her. With the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know, I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything.

Bush: Whatever you want.

Trump: Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/08/us/donald-trump-tape-transcript.amp.html

I have not seen a more dishonest people as Trump supporters.

raumdeuter:
Republicans dont believe women blindly, they only judge one as guilty after investigation and trials not accusations. Its only democrats who told us any accusation by a woman must be binding and a ground to step down

Even when the accused declared on live TV that he "grabs them by the pussy"? What will Republicans believe then? Even if he rapes them in the middle of 5th avenue in broad daylight, will Republicans believe?

raumdeuter:
When Democrats were railing and shouting for Kavanaugh to step down based on mere accusation where did this your equivcation go then?

These are Democratic senators calling for Kavanaugh to step down for sexual accusation, when will they extend same to Biden

Immediately after Republicans call for Trump to step down for allegedly violently raping a 13 year old girl, and for any of the 24 other sexual assault allegations.

raumdeuter:
Should Biden also step down like Democrats wanted Kavanaugh to pending the investigation into his sexual misconduct?

It was the standard given by Democrats and at the minimum they should follow their own set standards. Believe all women including Tara Reade

Republicans didnt set an standards like that, they believed everyone until proven guilty

Very warped and insane reasoning. Biden should step down pending investigations because Democrats have a standard of believing all women. But, all Republicans accused by women are not required to step down (even thpugh Kavanaugh did not step down) because Republicans have an opposite standard of not believing any woman. Trump with over 25 allegations is not required to step down ( with some law suits) pending investigations, but Joe Biden with just a single allegation (with the woman not ready to go to court) should step down. It's like saying crimes should only be investigated and prosecuted based on the moral beliefs of the accused.

XX01:
I have no need to lie and i don't care what your link says. The Oronsaye report itself has March 2014 as it's date. Please read a copy of the report itself and not get information from regurgitated sources.

You are still lying. The report itself was submitted 16 April 2012. Jonathan then inaugurated another committee to bring out a white paper. It was the white paper that was submitted on the 7th April 2014.

FG Releases White Paper on Oronsaye Committee Report; Rejects Most Recommendations

Abusidiqu
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FG Releases White Paper on Oronsaye Committee Report; Rejects Most Recommendations

EDITOR
Apr 8, 2014 6:53 am0

The Federal Government yesterday released a white paper on the Steve Oronsaye committee report on the Restructuring and Rationalization of Federal Government Parastatals and Commissions.

The report was submitted two years ago, with far reaching recommendations on the scrapping and merging of many government agencies, parastatals and commission.

I the white paper, some of the committee’s recommendations were accepted but a whole lot were rejected as well.

For instance, the FG in the white paper submitted by attorney – general Mohammed Adoke, accepted the scrapping of the National Poverty Eradication Programme (NAPEP) and the Fiscal Responsibility Commission (FRC) but rejected the call for government to stop the funding of religious pilgrimages.

The Nation newspaper says:

The document dated March, 2014 with 105 pages showed where the government accepted and rejected various recommendations on the scrapping, merger of 270 government agencies. Some of the agencies have been approved for commercialisation and privatization.

The Oronsaye report was submitted to government on 16th of April, 2012.

https://www.abusidiqu.com/fg-releases-white-paper-oronsaye-committee-report-rejects-recommendations/

raumdeuter:
I am wondering what is holding the tongue of liberals who believed all women and now they are not believing Tara Reade? Maybe her DNA is not the women X chromosome, maybe Tara is a man thats why they are not believing her and now asking for due process the same due process they denied Kavanaugh

If we are to follow due process and believe all women, what of Trump himself that has 25 women come forward and allege sexual misconduct against him?

So we have 25 against 1. Most of the 25 women are far more credible than Tara Reade.
If the 25 sexual allegations against trump did not matter to his supporters, why do you think one weak allegation by a woman with a history of unsubstantiated sexual accusations will matter to Joe Biden's supporters.

PHijo:
I can't respond to the jargon you wrote there!


Neither I,my children , grandchildren nor great grandchildren can suffer nor will ever suffer because of decisions any mortal man, nations or spirits make. I don't depend on man for my supplies, God almighty is my source of supply.

Religious mumbo jumbo. Have you seen a human on this earth who don't depend on any other for survival? If you are working, you depend on your boss for survival. If you are self employed, you depend on your customers and staff for survival. Even if you are a church pastor, you need tithes and offerings of members to survive. You don't sit in your house or church and magically, all your supplies appear in front of you.

We can't be locked up, we never were locked up and can never be locked up.

Go and commit a crime and see whether you will not land in kirikiri.

No matter how you guys lie against Jonathan, data speaks in favour of him. The fact people still stand for him even after five years and his memory is still taunting Buhari's government is a testament to Jonathan's greatness.

Only two sets of people that I know of, that is still crying after 5 years of losing the presidential election - few PDP members who were top members of the Jonathan administration and the people from the east who adopted Jonathan as their son, and swore to be Buhari's enemy from the beginning.

XX01:
Report came out March 2014, elections were Feb 2015. Should he have implemented so soon to an election? That would be like setting the next administration up and himself as well.

It is very annoying that you can come and lie straight face in this Internet era, where everything can be fact checked within 5 minutes. The Oronsaye Committee was inaugurated on August 18, 2011, and it submitted its report to president Jonathan on April 16, 2012

While On Monday, April 16, 2012, the long awaited report of the Presidential Committee on Restructuring and Rationalisation of Federal Agencies, Commissions and Parastatals headed by Mr. Stephen Oronsaye was submitted to President Goodluck Jonathan. The committee, which was inaugurated on August 18, 2011, was mandated to: study and review all previous reports on similar exercise; examine the enabling Acts of all MDAs and classify them into various sectors; examine critically their mandates and make appropriate recommendations to either restructure, merge or scrap; and, advise on any other matters, which may be relevant to the desire of government to prune the cost of governance.
https://allafrica.com/stories/201204231221.html

You don't need to lie to defend president Jonathan

Kingspin:
Stop running mouth
Tell the same Buhari to implement the nation confab report and sign electoral law

Why did'nt your lord and personal saviour implement nation confab report before leaving office?

Chukapage:
See this descendant of a fallen Demon trying to tell us the Igbos in Delta our history ....Aniomas ancestry is from NRI in Anambra not your Bini PROPAGANDA ....

Descendant of Angel Gabriel, are you Anioma? why not the Aniomas speak for themselves? Nnamdi Azikiwe must also be descendant of fallen demon, as he said even Onitsha can be traced to Bini heritage.

Kingspin:
Just a political announcement to stir Nigerians in the midst of Covid 19 era and your jumping up and down like you are new to Nigeria game.

Reply to me when the committee has successfully completed its task.

To much negative thinking. The president only directed the implementation of the report yesterday, wait a few months to see if it is being implemented or not before you start making doomsday predictions.

SeverusSnape:
Bubu the mumu is just clueless.

Trial by error government.

Achievement(s): Nothing.

They now know that this recommendation from the Jonathan Administration is the best.

you and all the people that liked your useless post are anarchists. Nigeria will never be destroyed no matter how much you wish and pray. its you and your likes that will be destroyed instead.

Your personal lord and saviour Jonathan inaugurated the Oresanye committee in August 2011, to look into the high cost of governance, due to the numerous ministries and parastatals, many performing duplication of functions. After a few months the committee recommended the scrapping of numerous parastatals and merging many of them. Until your god - Jonathan left office, he refused to even look at the recommendations, not to talk of implementing it. A full 8 years after the report was submitted, Buhari dusted the Oresanye committee's report and directed that it be implemented, but the children of hate are still cursing and insulting.

What do you people want? If you hate Nigeria and Nigerians so much, why not commence the legal and political process, many people will support you. it is difficult to partner and make progress with people with such negative energy.

You people never tire of lying and false equivalence in trying to demonise Buhari and saintify Jonathan.

PHijo:
Saudi Arabia is structured like Nigeria because the resources bearing regions in both countries are being looted to finance the excesses of their respective ruling elite. Both countries have been heavily dependent on petroleum resources for their respective budgets.
In contrast to Nigeria, Saudi Arabia prepared for eventualities like this since 2016. Like I pointed out earlier, Muhammadu Buhari, your petroleum minister and president had enough time like his counterparts in Saudi Arabia, Mexico and Russia but he did nothing despite that being the cardinal point of his campaign.

False equivalence. You cannot compare the structure of Saudi Arabia and Russia with Nigeria. Nigeria has 4 times the population and one fifth the oil revenue. Russia has about two thirds the population of Nigeria, but with the same oil exports as Saudi Arabia in addition to being the highers exporter of natural gas in the world. Both countries operate authoritarian regimes with little cost of governance. Meanwhile, Nigeria operates about the most expensive government in the world, only rivalled by that of the US.

On Jonathan, you are not being truthful. He made several attempts to pass the necessary laws but you people frustrated every effort in the parliament.
He tried educating Nigerians on the need to save the rainy days but you people decided to " occupy Lagos" and leaders went to court against him . When you finally got the judgement you wanted, Jonathan stopped saving.

Since you guys will not tired to push the myth and legend of Jonathan, we too will not tired to burst your lies and put the records straight. Which judgement did Jonathan get? please post the judgement here for all to see.

He tried educating Nigerians on the need to save, but he did not educate himself on the need to save, afterall the federal government collects 56% of the revenue of nigerian, how much of that did he save?

That money he saved is what Buhari has exhausted from the Sovereign Wealth Fund Jonathan created yet you are blaming him for Buhari's failure. Buhari doubled Nigeria's debt with 5 years and has virtually nothing to show for it. He has plans to borrow more, none of you is complaining about him, you are still blaming Jonathan for Buhari's failure.

How much did Jonathan save, when he was borrowing money to pay salaries for his last 4 to 6 months? Who was expected to pay back the monies Jonathan borrowed?

Buhari had to borrow, due to previous debt obligations, rising inflation, rising population, rising cost of governance and most importantly, falling oil revenues

You know you are incompetent and you apply for a job!

Well, Nigerians did not ask for a PHd but for a "Nepa bill"..let him create more Bill's for you Nigerians!

God being so kind, oil can't foot the bill any longer. They will tax the hell out of you, your children and your grandchildren.

E no concern us!

The irony is that it's not Buhari's or Jonathan's children and great grandchildren that will suffer, it's yours and mine.

You people are so obsessed with Jonathan vs Buhari fight that your minds are trapped in negatively and regression. You don't even think of progress.

PHijo:
Why didn't you complain about Mexico, Russia and Saudi Arabia who are not crying like you guys?

Are you telling us you were ignorant about Russia's and Saudi Arabia's economic woes during and after the 2015 oil crash? The ruble fell 50% and inflation hovered around 15%. Saudi Arabia was able to ride the crisis due to its huge reserves. But then, it also suffered slight economic discomfort as a result of the oil crash. All countries that depended on oil suffered one way or the other during the 2015 oil crash.

garetz:
A Governor in Nigeria has been cured of the coronavirus using chloroquine. If it was up to all these wicked liberals on this forum, they would have allowed him die just because they want to prove Trump wrong about Chloroquine.

Another governor was also cured by blackseed oil. Some people even claim that black amala can cure coronavirus. According to NCDC, 90% of patients recovered without taking anything. - https://www.legit.ng/amp/1319541-coronavirus-90-covid-19-patients-recover-intervention-ncdc-dg.html