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private919:
1. Most science fields are interconnected while others have little to no connvetion. As an example, an aeronautic engineer knows how to build a plane, knows physics or chemistry but doesn't know shit about space. For the last time, space science is mostly cosmology, astrology, astophysics, astronomy etc.

2. You said it doesn't matter whether or not I'm an atheist but you were quick to label me a theist (and insulted me for believing in god) without asking, so yes it does matter because that's always the first line of offence most people use against you when you disagree with them on issues such as this.

3.The millions & billions of years talk is all made up BS. If you want to believe them, good for you but don't call others stupid for refusing to be indoctrinated. Carbon-dating has its flaws (thats a topic for another day). ALso, the big bang and evol was never observed. They can't be observed but were merely poputed cause it made the most sense among all the theories suggested at the time.

4. All what you are writing concerning the galaxies, red shifts and cosmic rays is all part of whole big bang hoax. Good news is that, expect more of these kind of stories in the future. Everything you are saying is based on what those space scientists say, which is not entirely different from what creationist do.
[b] Today, ideas like The Big Bang are pushed so vehemently, especially among higher education, that anyone who questions its validity, even in light of the countless flaws of the Big Bang Theory, can be subject to intense criticism, be ostracized and face social rejection, be given failing grades, and even face expulsion from universities. Professional licenses can be revoked, you can be rejected from associations, lose your job, and worse. All because you went against the prevailing notions.

It’s not about what is true. It’s about what the educational and governing authorities say they want you to believe and say is true. As a result almost all professors and scientists are too afraid of being ostracized from their communities and face losing their jobs to speak out against the prevailing notions.

This is why false ideas unsupported by science like the Big Bang theory and evolution are so pervasive. Most people believe what they are told without even bothering to research it for themselves; and the ones who are informed enough and think for themselves enough to question it are too afraid to say anything.

If you want to believe in the Big Bang theory, you must believe it one of three ways: by faith, by ignorance, or by indoctrination. By faith, because you can’t believe something which does not have adequate scientific evidence except as a philosophical viewpoint.

By ignorance because the only way to be certain in your mind that the Big Bang theory could work is because you don’t have all the facts. Or if you have been so far indoctrinated you haven’t made a logical conclusion with your own rational mind, you may have never even tried to question what you have been told.

However you must decide for yourself what you will believe. If you decide to believe in the Big Bang theory, that’s fine, just realize that since it is not supported by science, you have to believe it as a philosophical viewpoint, not as a scientific fact [/b]

I tried posting with my precious account but I couldn't.

You behave like someone who blocks his ears with with his hands and screaming loudly "I don't want to listen to what anyone says, I believe in what I believe". You never bothered to read or understand the basis of the theories you so despise, you just keep parroting "big bang and evolution theories are hoax". Why the science community has been pushing a hoax for over a hundred years, you never stated, maybe it is heing pushed by the science faction of the deepstate.

You even stated that redshift and cosmic background radiation are hoaxes. This shows you know very little of physics and science in general. If these two measurable quantities are hoax, then the whole of physics are hoax, the doppler effect is hoax, the laws of general and special relatively are hoax, the laws of electromagnetism and thermodynamics are hoax.

For your information, astrology is not related to space science or any science for that matter. I thought you made an error when you first mentioned it, but since you consistently mention the same think, I realise you are truly ignorant.

Apart from ignorance, you also have comprehension problems. I never labelled you a theist. Read that section again and show me where I labelled you a theist.

How can someone claim to be an aeronautic engineer without having a mastery of gravity - the fundamental force that holds the universe together. How can someone study aeronautic engineering without understanding the properties of earth as it relates to the sun, such as rotation, revolution, precession, tides, solar flares, etc.

I am done with this senseless argument. You can cover your ears and mind and believe whatever you choose to believe if it makes you happy.

CoronaHealer:
"my ambition is not Worth the blood of any Nigerian" ...these words will forever remain with me, GEJ, u were a champion and true leader.
There's no president, past or present whose tenure or govt has not been fraught with gross misconduct and corruption. I used to be an ardent follower of buhari, i supported and prayed he won, but im regretting my decision now, he hasn't been effective at all, his govt has been a failure, from giant of Africa to poverty capital of the world. I weep!

Jonathan under these economic conditions would have been a catastrophe.

His finance minister had already forseen what will happen in a future Jonathan administration (that is if he had won the 2016 elections)

Brace for tougher times ahead, Okonjo-Iweala tells Nigerians - November 14, 2014
Nigerians should brace for tougher economic times ahead, the Minister of Finance, Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala, has said as crude oil prices slipped to a four year low on Wednesday.

New York Mercantile Exchange (NYMEX) December WTI oil futures sold at $75.20 per barrel on Wednesday, down $1.98, from $74.96 per barrel the previous day, the lowest level for a most-active contract since September 2010.

Okonjo-Iweala was predicting doom with oil at between $74 - $75, what would she have said when crude fell to $30? What would she have said when crude practically fell to $0 last week, as no one wants to buy our crude?
Jonathan would have simply sold Nigeria to the Chinese, and we have not even taken into the coronavirus which grounded all economic activities worldwide.

Jokerman:
This is because the resurrected man, told us things that will happens after his resurrection, and they are still happening and would continue to the end of the word...

Moreover time magazine some years ago actually acknowledged that Jesus was the most significant man that ever walk on the Earth..

Which things did the resurrected man tell us that did not happen before and has not been happening since?

That is the opinion of time magazine. Some others would say Mohammed was the most significant man that ever walked the earth. Others would say it was Mohammed. Some others would even say it's Kim II-sung, they commited suicide when he died.

Ausrichie:
My problem with most Christians just say I don't know or okay and bow out of the argument. I was a Christian and I can tell you that the Bible is a book of horseshit. The only sensible person there was Jesus. The rest foolish. Men who can't help themselves? Men that are the reason you are not the slave of some noble or colonialist. Chai.

To me the most sensible man in the bible was Thomas.

CutieKing:
The funny thing the guy you quoted was trying to say is that everybody is welcome as an illegal immigrant so far they transit into a legal immigrant anyhow..he said he was once one but exploited the weak or rather generous immigration system of the united states to become legal,now he wants everybody to do same.
Isnt it funny that this is one of those retards chanting build the wall and supporting their lord and saviour against same immigrants he once was.
HYPOCRITES!!!!!!.

That's called pulling down the ladder after using it to climb, so others can't use it to reach your heights. Ironically, that's the attitude of most black Africans. It is also called pull him down or village people syndrome.

AdmiralDru:
Like I said earlier, science and Tech is a broad field. That you are an expert in aerospace doesn't mean you know much about space science. There are electricians and mechanics who are good in their fields but don't know much about space.
Space science is mostly astronomy, astrology and astrophysics.

You are only partially correct. The natural sciences are all interconnected, so you must have a general knowledge of all related field to be a specialist in your field. It's like medicine, you must have general knowledge of medicine before you can specialize in dentistry, Ophthalmology, E.N.T, etc. An aerospace engineer must have basic knowledge of space science as he is designing nachines that is expected to travel through space - whether on earth or in actual space.

If you are talking about roadside electricians and mechanics, then you don't need to know anything goes about space science, but if you want to be an academic mechanic or electrician then you need to understand mechanics and electromagnetism. Mechanics is the study of motion in general and electromagnetism is the study of light itself.

2. I'm an atheist.

Doesn't mean anything. Atheism is simply a lack of belief in God's. It has little to do with science, arts or any other discipline. You will be surprised that some academic theologians are atheists.

3. I took some networking classes in school and have my Ccna. Radio tech is different from space science. All that billions of years talk has nothing to do with real science, they're there so science have it's own answer to how the world came to be.

Billions of years has everything to do with science. When you measure the age of rocks, when you measure the distances of galaxies and quasars to be billions of light years, are these not real science?
Science is not necessarily trying to answer how the world came to be. That the goal of the theists. What scientist do is to make observations and look for hypothesis and theories that can best explain and predict the observations.

Christians swallow everything in the Bible and would argue with you based on what's in the Bible even if it makes no sense, that's the same way big bang theorists argue. They tell you scientists said this and that.

know this. The big bang was never observed, neither was Evol. The reason it's popular is cause that's the most accepted theory that makes sense out of all the suggested theories by scientists of that time.
I hope you know this before you call anyone stupid for not agreeing with you. Also, you don't believe in theories. You either prove them to be correct or refute their claims.

Cc wirinet
Kingxsamz
Fucsheetup

Wrong precepts. The big bang and evolution is observed indirectly. Galaxies and distant objects is measured to be accelerating away from us according to their red shift measurements, this can only mean that the universe is inflating in all directions. The big bang theory only theorised what would happen if we go back in time, the universe would be deflating until it gets to its starting point - a point. The moment that point started to inflate is the big bang. Besides, the discovery of the the cosmic microwave background (CMB) is the strongest proof of the big bang. The big bang theory was proposed in 1927, and it predicted a background radiation that pervades the whole universe, it was not until 1965 that it was discovered and confirmed.

The Cosmic Background Radiation is predicted to be leftover radiation from the Big Bang, or the time when the universe began. As the theory goes, when the universe was born it underwent a rapid inflation and expansion.

Tetrahedron:
If you believe this fantasy of sci- fi then the joke is on you.
100 million years! Did u hear yourself? Go and read about charles darwin and the scam of evolution theory!

6,000 years according to the Bible and I believe it. There was an eye witness vs evolution drawn in cartoons

In effect you believe that no star or galaxy is more than 6,000 light years from earth. That means you don't believe andromeda our nearest galaxy, is 2.5 million years away, because the light you see from the galaxy left 2.5 million years ago.

AkpaMgbor:
The answer is there all along..life was CREATED. Life on earth was designed and created..the very solar system was fine tuned down to the smallest minute detail so that life will exis on earth .it wasn't chance or some dumb luck....

And you have proofs for all these hypothesis?

AkpaMgbor:
Evolution defies common sense and logic, an area supposed atheists or 'thinkers' always pride themselves on..amoebas still survive till today, no evolution for them or they didn't get the memo when other singular cells were developing limbs and brains?? Monkeys still exist today in MANY species I guess those species were busy sleeping when the ones that evolved to man were developing better brains, conscience and morality?? Guy you just need a detached look at evolution to see the Bullshyt that it is..

Ignorance on public display. 99% of all animals that have existed on earth has gone extinct, so almost all animals with a few exceptions are the ones that survived till today.

Evolution of biological life is similar to evolution of the electric car. The fist car was designed and made by Karl Benz, it was a primitive care with 3 wheels. Today after so many evolutions, we have thousands of models of cars, buses and trucks. Many have also gone extrinct because they could not survive the changing financial and social environment. The newest evolution are electric cars.
Now, because new benz are brought into the market today does not mean all older models will suddenly vanish, especially if they are still providing good service. That the 2021 Mercedes-Benz GLA 250 is cruising the streets of Lagos will not make the 1979 benz disappear. In facts some people are still driving 1960s antique cars.

AdmiralDru:
Kindly explain to me how the big bang was observed and researched.

The big bang was observed and research by studying the red shift of galaxies and quasars, and by predicting and finding the background cosmic radiation.

Fucsheetup:
Red Indians are a conquered people. They still worship their own gods.

Most South Americans are catholics, because the continent was invaded and colonised by Spain. Yhe number of traditionalists are very small. These are the few tribes in North America that was not completely conquered. The were allowed to live is small isolated reserves.

Fucsheetup:
Why won’t you believe everything the white man says? Your whole life is based on whatever the white man says

Your religion
Your education
Your clothing
Your housing
Your language
Your thought process
Your technology
Your currency
Your country

You forgot to add that we are a conquered people. A conquered people have no choice but to worship the gods of their conqueror.

ValCon888:
These animals were the real bad guys back in the day. Man was just a tasty snack like bush rat and life was like living in a nightmare.

Our specie (Homo Sapiens ) is barely 200,000 years on this planet, the whole homo genus is about 2 million years and you are talking about an animal that existed 100 million years ago. They both existed in different time frames.

Back then, a 40yr old man was considered a very old man because the mortality rate was so high.

We are talking about 100million years ago and not 1000 years ago.

If not for the Chicxulub Event, human beings (Homo Sapiens) would not be the Apex predator that they are today.

The Chicxulub Event took place 65 million years ago, homo homo Sapiens are barely 200,000 years.

Goldmaxx:
you're dumb but you don't know it. Majority of People trump bash has always been the first to come against him one way or the other. FLOTUS has never been active in any type of politics neither does she denigrate anyone. It's quite petty that the so called tolerant left goes about cussing and bullying anyone that doesn't support their agenda even to the extent of bullying the president's teenage son that has been kept out of public eye.
Bunch of hypocrites masquerading as saints.

I did not know that Republicans are cry babies, they dish out what they cannot accept. Was Michelle Obama active in politics during the time of her husband? We're you guys not bullying and cursing her ever other day? Because we call Melania an illegal alien, you guys want to commit suicide. What of Michelle you call all sorts of names including a transgender, did the left cry like you cry babies?

Watch how the tolerant right treated Michelle Obama. Now compare and contrast how the intolerant left is treating Melania Trump

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9VeNB5ili8

kokaneprodigy:
By the way I said most. The Coronavirus is not something he can easily control. Meanwhile the crux of my post was that it’s weird seeing a Buhari supporter saying Trump is incompetent. It’s preposterous!

What is preposterous? Trump is far more incompetent than Buhari using all human criteria except race.
Buhari is a retired General, Trump has never worked in his life.

Buhari was on the battle field during the Nigerian civil war, Trump dodged the draft during the Vietnam war.

Buhari had held numerous public office positions, from governor, minister, head of state to PTF chairman before becoming president, Trump has no experience whatsoever in public officers.

As per the handling of the coronavirus, Trump's handling of it is the worst in the entire world. The US still does not have a concise national response to the pandemic, the US response is a mess, making it the coronavirus virus capital of the world.

Saintinoo:
Did you read what the commissioner said? Resuming 3rd term online, those students who can't afford to learn online what will happen to them?

Resume third term, How? When most schools have not finished second term or done their second term exams.

What concerns me about those students that cannot afford to learn online? Are you concerned about millions of almajiris in the north who cannot learn both offline and online? Maybe you should stop your children from going to school to show sympathy for almajiris.

One of the main reason Nigeria can never develop is because of anarchists or naysayers. They can give you a thousand and one reason why any and every new idea cannot work, but not just one idea on how it can work. People have brought such stupid excuses on why online teaching cannot work. Stupid excuses like no electricity, but their phones is never off, they always find ways to charge it, even though there are no electricity. Some complained of cost of data, meanwhile they are always on Facebook, whatsapp, instagram, nairaland, etc. Is it with fm radio that they are able to access these sites? Another stupid excuse is that the parents don't have time; during a lockdown? Where will the parents go? There are memes all over social media of jobless husband's doing house chores and crazy stuff because of boredom due to lockdown.

Anyway, that one na Lagos State problem, the time table for my children's online class came out yesterday, so we are preparing for online lessons. Lagos State should be at the forefront of promoting online classes instead of being an enemy of progress.

Moralgladiator:
This is why everyone cannot be a leader. Leaders think for the less privileged as for himself.

Tell that to the over 16 million children who are out of school in Nigeria.

Saintinoo:
Did you read what the commissioner said? Resuming 3rd term online, those students who can't afford to learn online what will happen to them?

We are are operating a capitalist democratic system and not a communist or a socialist system. You get what what you pay for.

Moralgladiator:
Some of you hardly take time to think before you speak!! Use your head and know that not every parent can afford such expenses and it is the job of the government to keep the pace of their educational system uniform. Try to reason before you speak cause such unguarded responses only exposes your foolishness and reduces your chances for any meaningful online collaborations.

What do you mean "keep the pace of their educational system uniform"? Are you saying I cannot pay extra for my child's educational development if I can afford it? Are they not going to sit for uniform exams like JAMB, NECO, WAEC, GCE, etc? The fact that some pupils attend Public schools, while other attend British - American has already destroyed your uniform educations system.

Saintinoo:
So what happend to students who their parents can not afford 250k as fee?

The same thing that happens to those who cannot afford to send their children to school. It's not by force to register and pay for the online lessons. Promotions and exams are not based on the online lessons, it's just to keep the children's mind occupied during this period.

OceanEye:
Why resuming when public and less privileged have no chance to? Let us all be one during this unexpected global crisis.

And people like you will claim that the north is holding down the south educationally, because of quota system.

Most schools in the US continued teaching their students online. My friend who is a lecturer in a US university tells me he has been teaching his students online from home, and Lagos a supposedly progressive state is banning online teaching.

This coronavirus crisis should have been a test run for online education and teaching, which is the future of education. Many people get their degree without leaving their homes, Open university was inaugurated by Obasanjo over a decade ago.

PremierGuy:
President Trump is due a Nobel prize

Not Nobel, but Noble price according to Trump.

oceania100:
Going by your assertion, why is Urhobo attaching itself to OKPE then, the OKPE people have said they are not Urhobo. Today, they have their own Bible and other books different from Urhobo language.But Urhobos still claim them as part of
Urhobo nation.

If Okpe people say they are not urhobo, you cannot force them to be one. Just like you cannot force Austrians to be Germans.

That's how humans societies evolve. The world was at one time one race, one tribe and one language. Groups seperate and migrate to other locations, due to political or economic reasons, and eventually seperate from the original stock to form new tribes.

kokaneprodigy:
how she got her working visas is not my problem, the article is from BBC and it states she was on a string of working visas, nothing in that report states she worked or stayed in the US illegally.

whatever other trash you come up with is speculative at best,.

I ask again
how is Melania Trump an illegal immigrant?

Do you have proof she over stayed her visa at any point?

Do you have any proof she worked a day without work permit?

if you have proofs of any of the above kindly show otherwise shove ur trash where it belongs, don't drag me into beer parlour convos.

The article is a statement from her lawyers.

What is the meaning of a string of working visas. She came in on a tourist visa. If she wanted to work in the US, why did she not apply for a work visa?

And all the thrash you are spewing are not conjectures? You are talking as if you have seen her visas or if you know her employers.

Whether you accepted it or not Melania Trump entered the US on a tourist visa and worked illegally.

She came to the US with a tourist visa, then her lawyers claimed she "got a string of working visas" and eventually she got an Einstein Visa with the help of Trump. If she already had a string of working visas, why did she need an Einstein Visa again?

kokaneprodigy:
1. You don’t even understand that examples is not same as exclusive.

2. You missed the part where it is stated that she has been in US on a string of working visa. Before being granted permanent residency.

You are fond of reading to reply and not to understand.

I ask again how is she an illegal immigrant?

You are so eager to defend Trump (or Melania) that you don't even bother to process the information in your brain before spewing it out again.

This is the part you posted as justifying Melania;

Mrs Trump came to the US in 1996, first on a tourist visa then later a string of working visas for skilled immigrants, according to her lawyer. She was working as a model in New York when she met Mr Trump at a party in 1998, a relationship that considerably raised her celebrity profile.

Melania got into the US with a tourist visa in 1996, and she was already working in 1998 as a model in New York by the time she met Donald Trump. So you tell me that after entering the US on a tourist visa in 1996, she went back and forth to Slovenia multiple times to obtain a skilled immigrant visa that allowed her to work in the US, all within a couple of years.
You guys talk as if we are illiterates here or that some of us have never applied and gotten US visa. Modelling does not qualify for skilled immigrant visa in the US or any other country for that matter. Based on what skills was Melania given a special skills visa. If she was qualified for special skills visa, why did she enter US in the first instance with a tourist visa?

Latest tweet by president Trump;
"When will all of the “reporters” who have received Noble Prizes for their work on Russia, Russia, Russia, only to have been proven totally wrong (and, in fact, it was the other side who committed the crimes), be turning back their cherished “ Nobles” so that they can be given.... ....to the REAL REPORTERS & JOURNALISTS who got it right. I can give the Committee a very comprehensive list. When will the Noble Committee DEMAND the Prizes back, especially since they were gotten under fraud? The reporters and Lamestream Media knew the truth all along.... ....Lawsuits should be brought against all, including the Fake News Organizations, to rectify this terrible injustice. For all of the great lawyers out there, do we have any takers? When will the Noble Committee Act? Better be fast!"

Trump called NOBEL price Noble price 4 times, so this obviously was not a typographical error but a mental error. He also mistook the Nobel price for the Pulitzer price. Journalists are awarded Pulitzer price and not Nobel price.

And someone would be comparing Buhari to Trump. Ordinary Buhari calling covid 19, which was just recently named a few weeks ago covik 1-9, and Buhari was virtually crucified on social media for being ignorant. But what will you call Trump that is completely ignorant about a Nobel price and the Pulitzer price that has been around for more than 100 years.

DanseMacabre:
To be honest though, someone with stellar economic credentials and a pragmatic manifesto is Moghalu. I think he should be at the forefront of this discussion.

To me the only Igbo politician I think would make a good president is former senate president Ken Ugwu Nnamani. He is scandal free, and he seems to be an honest man. But then, Nigerians do not appreciate honest men, the worship crooks who will steal their future and the future of their generations and use the stolen wealth to oppress them.

ezenwajosh:
I created a thread where I asked if kwara state is Yoruba the mode DELETED IT

WHY?

It's only kwarans that can answer the question and nobody else. If kwarans say they are Yorubas an igbo man has no right to say they are not, and if the kwarans say they are not Yorubas, no Yoruba man can say they are.

Identity is personal. People can choose whatever identity they want to call themselves.

Aksnoopy:
The issue of aniomas being igbo has once again been settled on twitter with majority of Igbo's who speak the anioma dialect of Igbo arguing that they are more Igbo than their eastern brother's and sister's. I totally agree with the fact that anioma's are truly igbo's, politics aside. Here is Hon ndudi elumelu, the younger brother of Tony elumelu the CEO of UBA bank affirming his igboness on the lower floor of the National Assembly.
https://mobile.twitter.com/UcheOkoyep/status/1254411102714310657

It's all politics. All it takes to get the loyalty and support of the igbo masses is just claim to be igbo or support igbo cause (like biafra), and they would be ready to die for you. It does not not matter whether you are Calabari, Ikwerre, Benin or even Yoruba. Ask Ebele Azikiwe Jonathan or Fani Kayode or even Fayose.

In reality the Aniomas trace their roots from different sources, some trace their roots to Benin and so claim they are not igbos, while some trace their roots to Anambra and so claim to be igbos.

kokaneprodigy:
Do u have proof of this?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-43256318

Did you even read the article you posted?
Let me break down to you like a toddler;

Melania Trump obtained US citizenship on a visa reserved for immigrants with "extraordinary ability" and "sustained national and international acclaim", according to a report in the Washington Post.

Abeg tell me which extraordinary ability Melania Trump has. I suspect her abilities "in the other room" must be extraordinary.

Nicknamed the "Einstein Visa", the EB-1 is in theory reserved for people who are highly acclaimed in their field - the government cites Pulitzer, Oscar, and Olympic winners as examples - as well as respected academic researchers and multinational executives.

Abeg tell me which field Melania is acclaimed, was she a Pulitzer price or Oscar winner, or even an Olympic medalist. Maybe she was an academic researchers or a multinational executive.

Mrs Trump began applying for the visa in 2000, when she was Melania Knauss, a Slovenian model working in New York and dating Donald Trump. She was approved in 2001, one of just five people from Slovenia to win the coveted visa that year, according to the Post .

This is the koko of the matter. She was an illegal alien working illegally in New York and she was screwing Donald Trump. As you know screwing Donald Trump qualifies you for Einstein Visa. She applied in 2000 and just one year later, she got an Einstein Visa.
Now if an Ngozi immigrated from Nigeria to hustle on the streets of New York and met a influential young Obama, who used his influence to get her an Einstein Visa within 1 year and later married her. If the same Barack Obama later decides to run for presidency, the Republicans and their supporters including self hating Nigerians would never accept her as first lady. They would go after Obama for corrupting the visa system.

kokaneprodigy:
how is Melenia Trump an illegal immigrant?

Melania Trump Melania came to the US in 1996 on a tourist visa, but then and work as a professional model without a work permit. That's the kind of illegal immigrants Donald Trump hates and wants to deport from the US.