₦airaland Forum

ezenwajosh:
We have except we have choose to stop fueling Nigeria unity


We have refused to stop giving Nigeria life with our sweat


We have choose to option out of nigeria

That my stand as igbo youth... I know many igbo youths who are sharing my vision too

Why not you and your many igbo youths form a pressure group to pressure your state and national assembly members to demand for secession? In the alternative you can form or join a political party to promote your secession agenda.

Secession can only be achieved by two means - through a political process or through war, not by cursing and abusing Nigerians and other tribes.

UdechiHD:
Some of you are shameless. If we begin to list Yorubas that were handed top positions under GEJ, many of you will run with your tails. Even under GEJ Igbos had fewer positions as compared to under Yaradua, yet we didn’t destabilize his government. However, you Yoruba with top military and ministerial positions never allowed him breathe. Even when GEJ allotted the Speakership position to you guys (in continuation of Patricia Etteh and Dimeji Bankole) we Igbos didn’t protest against it. By right, we were supposed to speak up and dispel your agenda, after all your brother Obasanjo just left the Presidential seat and despite our support for his Presidency, he left us out of the top 4 key positions and pick your people. We didn’t complain, even when GEJ picked an Akande for speakership, we minded our business. But instead of you to support the Lady, you went ahead to sell that post to Tambuwal.

I repeat, if we bring up Yoruba positions under Yar’adua/Jonathan down to Jonathan, many innocent Yoruba’s hoodwinked by you Tinubu clowns would be shocked.

In which type of government does a president allot or pick the head of the legislature? Please explain. Buhari then must have alloted the senate president to Bukola Saraki.

We are not talking about Yaradua presidency. The Yorubas never complained of marginalization under Yar’adua presidency. It was under Jonathan, that the Yorubas complained about marginalisation in political appointments. When Jonathan and his supporters dismissed their complaints, the Yorubas went back to the drawing board to plot his defeat.

Now let's compare Jonathan's appointments and Buhari's appointments so we can compare and contrast which tribe was or is marginalized.

Dedetwo:
Then they must address the disadvantage of being “led” by selfish, greedy and self-centered political elite masquerading as political and social-cultural leaders who are the first to shoot down their own. Many Igbo leaders are fine men and women. But there are too many

The above did not come across to you as a lamentation from a man who failed election and did register a bleep on the political radar. He was not financially situated to play the game and his professorial gambit did not fancy the south eastern governors to bank roll his campaign billings.

You might be right. Maybe he was looking for some political patronage or largesse after his political adventure. He could not have hoped to win when even bigger parties like apga had no chance.

Igbochief001:
2)Igbo have taken on and made progress , with the marginalization we have go out and invested in every Nigeria state ...but does that mean when we are wronged we should not complain ?

My grouse with you guys is you guys waste too much energy complaining without doing much about it. I am talking about igbo leaders taking practical steps to develop the igbo nation.

Didn't yorubas match on the street for abiola issue ? Why the hypocrisy , didn't Niger Delta militant bomb to protest ? ....why are igbos one seen as different ?

Did you hear Yoruba people complain? They took practical steps (many risked their lives and property). They brought the Government to a stand still and made the Abacha government personal non grata in the international community. Ironically igbos showed their support for Abacha with a 2 million man match.

3) $22 billion from loan that was taken from China ....what is the igbo land contribution ? We contribute oil and gas , we contribute trade and import duty , we contribute human resources ...better than north that got a bulk of that loan

If u don't see anything wrong in the distribution of that loan u are a be lier and evil

How much in terms of raw dollars do the south east contribute to to national purse, and how much do they take out? The $22 billion would mostly be paid from oil and gas revenue, whicv over 80% comes from the Niger Delta.
Mind you, I do not support marginalisation of the igbos by this Buhari administration. What I am saying is that the igbos should get together and pursue a precise developmental agenda.

4) name the assistance federal government have given to airpeace ? Name one ...they are forced to use airpeace because no other option ....
Oga name one thing Nigerian government has done for airpeace ...I have read the report over and over again Bros ...there is no excuse ...enugu government have promised to build the army barrack

The FG gave airpeace license to operate in Nigeria.
The FG gave airpeace it's license to fly to five countries comprising China, South Africa, United States (Atlanta), United Arab Emirates and India.
If the FG truly wants to stifle airpeace, it would not grant it licences to use its fly to other countries under bilateral aviation agreements.

Dealing with the military is somehow complex. The Military hierarchy is not usually favourably disposed to changing bases. There is a case I am involved with here in Lagos concerning over 150 Hectares of land seized by the army since the 70s. The case had gone to court. The families involved has used Obas, a former president and other influential people to beg the army. The case has been on for 20 years.

Why can't the governor provide another land for airpeace to build it's aviation facilities, what makes this particular site so special?

5) when u have socialist economic policy in Nigeria how do u want igbos to succeed ....u want to strangle south east and expect igbos to remain their

What do you mean we have socialist economic policy? I thought we are operating full capitalism. Obasanjo privatised most of Nigeria's assets, Jonathan privatised NEPA.

Igbos as individuals are succeeding, the problem is collectively as a group.

6) south south we have supported their move for resource control , we supported Jonathan

South West ..we supported obj , we support makinde and fayose and the rest ..are they not yoruba

North we have voted north more than any other regions ...what else should the Igbo mam do ...name it

As I said earlier that's political interests

Esseite:
All security heads none SE
Least to almost none FG infrastructure in SE
$22bn loan - SE excluded
Train track- SE excluded
Seaport/Dryport- SE excluded
Second niger bridge - to be tolled
Appointments - SE 5%
Executive hierarchy- SE none
Legislative hierarchy- SE Chief whip.

What is Victim mentality again?

You guys do not seem to understand or comprehend what prof Mogbolu is talking about, maybe because he is a professor and he is talking to less educated masses.

Here is his quote once again;

“Nigerian Igbo complain about political “marginalization”. While true because of the civil war, and while Nigeria needs “a new grand bargain” b/w it’s ethnic nationalities, the Igbos themselves have harmed themselves. They must first shed victim mentality.

Then they must address the disadvantage of being “led” by selfish, greedy and self-centered political elite masquerading as political and social-cultural leaders who are the first to shoot down their own. Many Igbo leaders are fine men and women. But there are too many

From the parts of the quote I highlighted, you should see that Mogbolu is attacking Igbo Politicians
You have igbo politicians in the National Assembly, and the national assembly is the purse of the nation. Why did the igbo politicians in the national assembly agree to a budget without major projects in the south east? Maybe they are more interested in constituency projects or political correctness.

About the train track, who would you blame for excluding the south east? The minister of transport is Igbo and the funds also has to be approved by the national assembly. No igbo politician had complained openly on these issues.

About appointments, yes we all agree that Buhari is Nepotic, but that's just in the last 6 years. The previous 6 years had igbos in prominent positions in government, how did they help Igboland?

Igbochief001:
U call yourselves an igbo man but use "they " on your people ....it shows how much u respect the Igbo nation

He never denied he is an Igbo man.

Igbos should stop crying marginalization when the marginalization is on going

He never denied the marginalization going on. He said igbos should do take action to progress instead of always crying marginalization.

$22 billion was taken ...not a cent would be spent on Igbo land

$22 billion taken from where? What's the total contributions to the national purse from Igboland? Less that 10 igbo businessmen are worth more than $22 billion, that's apart from the billions of dollars the states received yearly from the FG. If igbos politicians and individuals shed their greed (and stop playing the victim), igbo people have the resources to convert Igboland to a developed region.

Air peace has been begging for land to build aviation hub in enugu but federal government has refused ...even when enugu government has offered to replace the land two times over

This is the same victim mentality Professor was complaining about. Upon all the assistant the FG had given to air peace down the years, you are now complaining that the FG is bad because it refused to hand over it's land, which belongs to the Nigerian Airforce, to air peace.

Read this report on the enugu airport and airpeace to discover the issues involved.

The minister of state for aviation, Senator Hadi Sirika, visited Enugu State last month. He had described the Enugu International Airport as “not befitting of the status that it has attained” and promised to “do the best we can to allow all international airlines apart from Ethiopian Airlines to operate out of Enugu”.

I recall reading the minister outlining a list of challenges that could hamper that lofty dream. One of the cited infrastructural challenge that could hinder the hopes of making Enugu Airport a full fledged international airport was the absence of approach lights at both end of the runway.

It was understood that locals in the community had frustrated attempts by contractors engaged by the Federal Airports Authority of Nigeria (FAAN) to instal this facility, the absence of which makes nighttime landing and takeoff impossible. Another challenging issue was the presence of two communication masts owned by the Nigeria Television Authority (NTA) and the Enugu State Broadcasting Service (ESBS) obstructing aircrafts’ flight path on takeoff.


The indigenous airline was on March 31, 2016, granted the right to fly to five countries comprising China, South Africa, United States (Atlanta), United Arab Emirates and India.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thecable.ng/fg-grant-ugwuanyis-request-air-peace-maintenance-facility-enugu-airport/amp

Igbos absolutely have zero victim mentality , someone with victim mentality won't go to the north and build , someone with victim mentality won't go back to South south and build ... someone with victim mentality won't go back to South West and build .... someone with victim mentality won't get back on their feat after the war like igbos ...

Irrelevant and off-point. Igbos leaving their homes and migrating to other regions and indeed other countries all over the world has nothing to do with the victim mentality Professor Mogbolu was talking about. There are also millions of igbos building structures in the UK, US, UAE, Europe, etc. If igbos invest half of what they invest all over the world in their homeland, Igboland would have become Dubai by now.

In politics ....there is nothing igbos haven't done to build bridge and trust , igbos have voted south South , south west , north many time ...

Please list what igbos have done to build bridge and trust with the south South , south west , Middle belt, north? Instead, other Nigerians have been receiving insults and scorn from igbos (not elites). Politics is a game of interests, and besides igbos generally don't come out to vote. So relevance electorally is not as important as it should be.

basilico:
. In it, the FBI acknowledged that only a
“small number” of more than 49,000
“potentially relevant” emails found on
Weiner’s laptop had been forwarded from
Clinton deputy Huma Abedin to Weiner, her
husband, not hundreds or thousands as
Comey had stated. The FBI said just two of
those messages contained classified
information

2 mails out of over 49000, forwarded by a Clinton's deputy to her husband ( most probably without her knowledge) is the highest crime of the century to persecute Hillary Clinton for?
Oya order Bill Bar to commence prosecution.

Now, you guys say Trump could be best buddies to Epstein for 15 years without being aware he is a paedophile or traffics in young girls, but you expect Clinton to know the character of the husbands (and wives) of all her employers and aids.

basilico:
CNN had Hillary at 99% chance of winning on election day.

Let's have links please.

CNN polls fluctuated between 2% lead by Clinton around June to 12% around August to just 5% two weeks to elections.

Clinton leads by 5 heading in to final two weeks
By Jennifer Agiesta, CNN Polling Tue October 25, 2016
Hillary Clinton leads Donald Trump by 5 points as the presidential campaign heads into its final two weeks, with the Democratic nominee's support just shy of the 50% mark, according to a new CNN/ORC poll.

Among likely voters, Clinton tops Trump 49% to 44%, with just 3% backing Libertarian Gary Johnson and 2% behind Green Party nominee Jill Stein.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2016/10/24/politics/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-presidential-polls/index.html

OjoMadiba:
The poll was even worse in 2016, what was the outcome? Why should I trust it again?

The poll was not completely wrong. It gave the total votes to Clinton, which she did win by about 5 million. Even though the electoral collage votes were off, many of the states polls were still within the margin of error of between 4 and 8%. Polls are not expected to be 100% accurate, because only a very small number of sample size. The small sample size is simply extrapolated on the general population. Some polls in 2016 gave the elections to Trump.

In all the current polls Biden is leading Trump with more points than the margin of error. Trump's support based has not grown beyond 2016 levels, in fact it's shrinking on a daily basis with many Republicans openly campaigning against trump. So, how do you expect him to equal his 2016 votes, not to talk of beating it.

OjoMadiba:
President Trump will be re-elected again in November. Don't Trust the mainstream media.

So which media should we trust - Fox news and Breitbart? Even Fox news has Biden ahead of Trump in its polls.
Form your own media outfit and poll the elections to Trump.

budaatum:
Pass it on!

This is just a tip of the iceberg, many other anti -Trump groups would arise before the November elections. Most sane Americans are appalled by the way Trump is leading the once revered and respects USA. A second Trump tenure would completely destroy the US (and Trump and his MAGA cult would somehow blame the liberals, Democrats, deepstate, Obama as usual).

We are living in interesting times indeed.

basilico:
Literacy deficiency.
Epstein liked beautiful women just like Trump. T liked them young. Nowhere in my understanding os Trump saying he liked them young.

Na wa o! Arguing with trumptards is like arguing with fire and water. Garetz just staked his life that in the 15 years of friendship with Epstein, Trump had no idea he was a paedophile, and de-friended him the second he found out; Meanwhile this one is saying Trump knew Epstein (not him) liked the girls younger.

garetz:
So how did you jump from what you just highlighted to Trump said he likes under age girls? Why must you always lie? Is Need Nwoko the husband of Regina Daniels a pedophile because he likes a younger woman? People like you would have gone to town to spread lies about him if he had told you he likes a younger woman. Stop lying wirinet!! You won't die if you don't lie.

You need to learn proper English instead of MAGA English. In English how will you qualify the comparative adjective young. You have young, younger youngest. Young already relates to youth, inexperienced and fresh, youngest (in the contex Trump was talking about) therefore mean babies and very little children. So, Trump saying he likes them on the younger side, a normal person should know the age range.

garetz:
We are not as ignorant as you liberals are, neither do we are full of lies like you. When we talk, we talk facts!!!

https://www.the-sun.com/news/618186/donald-trump-banned-jeffrey-epstein-mar-a-lago-underage-girl/

Where is your facts? Trump had been friends with Jeffery Epstein for 15 years and only found out he was a paedophile after the fell out over a palm beach auction.

garetz:
You have come again with your lies, when did Trump admit liking under age girls like Epstein? What is it with you liberals and your pathetic lies? You can't even lie smartly, just telling stupid kindergarten lies. Trump has never denied knowing Epstein, they knew each other but Trump banned him when he discovered he was a love-vendor.

Interpret Trump's quote in MAGA language.
“I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. ”

basilico:
They were once friends. Trump banned him from his clubs after he hit on a young girl.

Bill was in Lolita express 27 times. some to orgy island.

I was thinking you guys will run out of stupid excuses, bit of was wrong, the excuses start going going from stupid to ridiculous.

This was Trump's quote in early 2000 when Epstein was his best buddy;
“I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. ”

Give better excuse for that Trump quote.
Trump banned him from his clubs after he hit on a young girl my foot. So all those years Trump and Epstein were best buddies holding parties up and down including in Mar a largo, Epstein was hiding his abuse of underage girls from Trump? Or that he did not love-vendor underage girls to Trump.

For your information Trump and Epstein fell out over a property deal they were both interested in, and not some abuse of underage girls shit.
- [url=https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.palmbeachpost.com/news/20190802/palm-beach-estate-bankruptcy-auction-pitted-trump-epstein%3ftemplate=ampart]Palm Beach estate bankruptcy auction pitted Trump, Epstein[/url]

basilico:
The US wants to question the heir to Guiness .
They also want to question Prince Andrew.

Trump is of law and order. Democrats allowed Epstein to walk with a single charge of soliciting . Jailed him for 13 months, housed him in the private wing of the correctional And allowed hom 12 hours to go to his office where he continued to meet underage girls. He was even allowed female. visitors in his prison private wing.

Trump wants justice for his victims. Rats know if Maxwell sings Many of their big donors are going down. People like Woody Allen, Bill Clinton, etc who visited his orgy island for God knows what sick rituals . These top shots are heavily Democratic and by extension the media. Expect twitter bots,media, liberals try as much as possible to insinuate Trump is like that Arkancide enforcer.

Are you serious? Trump himself that admitted liking underage like Epstein?

“I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.” - Donald Trump, 2002

Here is a report of Trump and Epstein parting together with girls all around, with video evidence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ad1ysX2iLmA

What's your stupid excuses this time? The video was videoshopped or it was taken out of context?

Qstorm:
Most republican politicians have proven to be no better than their democrat counterparts. Spineless RINO cowards!
With Trump we have no doubt where his loyalty is, his love for our country is not in doubt. He is fighting to save our country and God is with him.

Out of the nearly 330 million Americans, only Trump and his racist white, sexist and homophobic supporters love the country. All others are deepstate that want to destroy America.

Schizophrenia is characterised by thoughts or experiences that seem out of touch with reality.

Qstorm:
America didn’t just happen. Our founders fought hard to create this incredible country. We’re not going to let it fall to socialists!

I hate arguing or even discussing with schizophrenics, people might not tell the difference. But I can't resist this post.

You are not going to let the country fall to socialists, meaning you are not going to allow Leftists/Democatrs/Biden take over government. So what do you intend to do if the leftists/Democrats /Biden wins the elections? Form a terrorist group and start bombing the US?

You guys need to be taken off the streets as you might hurt yourself or someone else.

ZooOga:
a very interesting state of affairs recently developed.

White House counselor Kellyanne Conway's 15-year-old daughter Claudia was not expecting the wave of support she got after TikTok videos opposing her mom's boss went viral.

https://twitter.com/USATODAY/status/1278194621936435202


Claudia Conway

https://twitter.com/shortfakeblonde

It's quite ironic that Kellyanne Conwey's daugher and husband are both strongly anti Trump, even though they both gain immensely from the Trump administration, as their mother wife collects salary and other benefits as a senior adviser.
Meanwhile, those who are struggling with 2 square meals a day or looking for N200 just to buy recharge card (courtesy of Abbeybailey), who any member of their families can never get up to 500 km close to Donald Trump are ready to commit suicide for him.

garetz:
He has just been briefed about it. The New York times lied that he knew about it before now. Intel agencies don't go briefing the president on any gossip they hear. They have to find it credible before they brief the president. They didn't find this info credible so they didn't tell the president about it until the New Times went to town with their lies. The press secretary just told you it is an "unverified intelligence", the Intel agencies don't go telling the president things until they have verified it. Of course after the NYT lies, the intel agencies had no option than to brief Trump because he asked them what the hell the NYT are talking about.

You guys make stupid and unreasonable excuses in your defense of Trump's incompetence. So it was NYT "lies" that made Intel agencies brief president Trump? Why will the intel agencies brief the president on lies and unverified intelligence? Then the intelligence agencies also went to brief congress members of both parties on these same lies.

Meanwhile, John Bolton was said to have personally briefed the presidenf on this same matter more that a year ago. Also the matter of Russian bounty on US soldiers was included in the daily written briefings submitted to the president earlier this year.

Bolton personally briefed Trump on Russian bounties one year earlier than previously known:

Former national security adviser John Bolton told colleagues that he personally briefed President Donald Trump about intelligence that Russia offered Afghan militants bounties to kill American troops, U.S. officials told the Associated Press.

Bolton briefed Trump on the matter in March of 2019, according to the report, a year earlier than previously reported by The New York Times. The information was also included in at least one presidential Daily Brief, according to the AP, CNN and The Times. The AP earlier reported that it was also included in a second presidential Daily Brief earlier this year and that current national security adviser Robert O'Brien discussed the matter with Trump
https://www.salon.com/2020/06/30/bolton-personally-briefed-trump-on-russian-bounties-one-year-earlier-than-previously-known-report/

garetz:
You are wrong . The DNI have already addressed the issue.

https://www.odni.gov/index.php/newsroom/press-releases/item/2128-statement-by-dni-ratcliffe-on-recent-press-reporting

So how do you reconcile the 2 different statements from president Trump and Director Ratcliffe?

Intel just reported to me that they did not find this info credible, and therefore did not report it to me or @VP. - president Trump


I have confirmed that neither the President nor the Vice President were ever briefed[ on any intelligence alleged by the New York Times in its reporting yesterday - Director Ratcliffe

Maybe the intel that reported that Trump was not DNI or that Ratcliffe was not aware that Trump was briefed. Or, simply one of them is lying.

garetz:
Already debunked fake news, try and keep up with the news, you have been left behind. The DNI has already debunked it as a lie. Your fake news and their anonymous sources, SMH. The moment I see anonymous source, I already know it's all sorts of stupid lies that is coming in from the fake news media.

Are you the spokesperson for DNI? Why not give us links to DNI denial.

Here is Trump's own twist to the story;

Intel just reported to me that they did not find this info credible , and therefore did not report it to me or
@VP
. Possibly another fabricated Russia Hoax, maybe by the Fake News
@nytimesbooks
, wanting to make Republicans look bad!!!
https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1277431695248183298

According to Trump, it was reported to him, but later unreported again, because they did not find the info credible.

If the house decides to investigate now, Trump would ban government officials from testifying and you guys would should Russia and Afghanistan hoax.

donjazet:
Politics is all about pragmatism, you win some, you lose some.
It's no hidden knowledge that many of the current protesters both those pulling statues down and those clamouring for abolishment or defunding of the police force are democratic leaning.

If you say they are not, I will point you to far leftists like AOC and her group that are fully supporting the movement.
Secondly, why hasn't Biden or other democrat leaders called for a more rational approach and the disbanding of the CHOP and CHAZ group in Seattle?

Silence would definitely translate to support here and will make moderate people lean more towards trump who is blowing hot air.

You talk about pragmatism and you expect any Democratic candidate to condemn black lives matter or those protesting the murder of George Floyd, when 90% of African-Americans support the Democratic party? The Democratic party was even kneeling while wearing Ghanaian kenke scarf to show support for blacks (very stupid).

Both sides are playing politics with the issue, while blacks are caught in the middle. That doesn't remove from the racism and discrimination against blacks still prevalent in the US. Jews passed through their own discrimination and suppression, but they did not pass through their 400 years of slavery.

donjazet:
The far left are beginning to take things too far and it's agitating both the moderates and the far right.

This has nothing to do with the far left. It's Trump's people and the alt right that are trying to put blames on Democrats and the left for political purposes. The people agitating never carried signs indicating they are Democrats or even leftists. They are just angry at Racism and the justice system that seems to support racism against blacks. The agitators comprises of different mosaic of peoples. There are blacks, whites, Hispanics, Democrats, independents and even Republicans, and of course looters and criminals. Lots of conservatives are not happy with the way Trump handled the Floyd issue and the protests.

Just look at the mess in Seattle, calling for a full abolishing of the police force
How will law and order be enforced and maintained especially in a society where everybody is armed

It's just a emotional rant. It's just not feasible. Even the mayor and governor need the police to enforce it's laws. People are advocating for defunding the police, meaning spending money on social services and issues that drive people to crime that spend the money on arming the police. This is also not practical.

Or those who are stripping down every single monument of past revered leaders like Abraham Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, Winston Churchill, Woodrow Wilson, John Quincy Adams etc. It's total madness.

So? These are just statues. Even though I believe this was done in the heat of the moment (mob action). I don't see the big deal. Some Christian sects like pentecostals even hate the putting up and reverence of statues.

These actions are now turning opinions against the left.

Recent events were sure to cost trump his reelection bid but these actions will cost the democrats massively if they fail to caution aggressively against the current chaos.

Trump and his people know that they are loosing supporters on all sides, not just the left. They need to demonise the Democrats to stand a chance in the coming elections

Qstorm:
CHOP “security” shot and killed an unarmed black 16 year old boy and wounded an unarmed black 14 year old boy. Where’s the outrage MSM, BLM, Antifa? This was never about George Floyd, it was never about black lives ( at least 17 black people have been murdered by the so called BLM protesters)

The enemies within are at work and a load of stupid sheep are allowing themselves to be used as pawns and eventual collateral damage. Lotta them on this forum too

You are just attempting confuse and deflect the real issues to show your hatred and contempt to blacks. The subject matter of the protests were not murders of blacks by Blacks or whites, but institutionalized racism and oppression of blacks that had been happening for over 4 centuries. Floyd is the most graphic representation of that oppression.
A bloody civil war was fought which millions died just to free slaves in America. The civil rights act which abolished discrimination and segregation was only enacted in 1964.
Racism is still very rife in the US, and this is irrespective of if it's a democratic or Republican administration. Trump openly seem to support racism and racist groups.

tescoman90:
Guys watch this and tell me if the senairo was as the media portrayed it.
The man was simply mocking the protester by acting as a Yes-man
Its like calling him a racist and he say yeah! ..... white power

Seniors from The Villages in Florida protesting against each other: pic.twitter.com/Q3GRJCTjEW

— Fifty Shades of Whey (@davenewworld_2) June 27, 2020

The issue is not about the guy shouting white power, it's about the president tweeting the video. Why did Trump feel particularly motivated to tweet such controversial issues at this volatile and election time?

ribbit:
lol so how would I have known in 2016 that trump will be terrible president when he hasn't become one?

Because, he had been a terrible businessman and had filed for bankruptcy up to 6 times prior. This was someone that inherited his father's business and $400 million. Till today, no one knew how he got out of an 8 billion dollar debt.

You do realize everything was going well in America until this year right?

Another false narrative. The US economy had been steadily on the rise since after the 2008 financial crisis. Obama had 8 years of continuous growth on all economic indices. Trump continued where Obama left off.

Before the coronavirus, the US was a ready feeling the negative effect of Trump's stupid trade war with China (and the rest of the world). Rural farmers were already crying and cursing Trump as millions of tons of soybeans were rotting in their warehouses. Trump was practically begging Xi Jinping to help him win the elections by lifting the ban on soybeans. It was only the capital markets that was booming prior to coronavirus. I hate the capital market. To me, it's highly fraudulent.

You also do realized trump actually stood a big chance of winning 2020 before coronavirus crippled everything and his approach To it the reason everyone is up in arm against him now..

Agreed. This was because, Trump and his supporters based has success on the economy and the capital markets. And the economy on a whole was still on the upbeat. But, economists were predicting the bubble to burst anytime. If the bubble did not burst before November, Trump stood good chance of winning. (Mind you, the electoral collage, but not the popular vote once again)

What makes you really think Biden won't be worse? What if aliens invaded earth in 2023 and Biden didn't handle the invasion very well, would that still make him a better president?

If aliens invaded earth and a president Biden ignore intelligence report on the invasions until it was too late, criticise and undermine those trying to fight of the invasion, then it will make him also as bad as president as trump.

I bet you also think CNN is a good media now cos they have stopped painting africa/Africans as uncivilized and poverty stricken people who it's people live on trees because they have ignored Africa to be more focused on trump they hate day and night.

It's got nothing to do with CNN, that has been the views on black Africans from the first time the Europeans landed on the shores of West Africa in the 14th century. That's the views of all western media and literature on blacks and black Africa. It's no different from fox news.

ribbit:
and who told you I regretted supporting trump against Clinton? Bleep no I didn't regret that.

Okay then, so lemme use that idiot words against you.
*In donjazet voice* , you have got to be the most foolish person in the world for supporting buhari in 2015.

Buhari has always been himself, a pro north, Islamic fundermentalist, and corrupt bastard who worked under abacha to steal the countries money.

How could you not have seen that coming?

How could you be so stupid to support someone like buhari against a better technocrat like gej with good past?


I mean your hypocrisy and stupidity is the reason why Nigeria went into recession and probably will still go into another one.


Has Boko Haram been defeated? Is he really fighting corruption?



Now tell me? How does it feel to be so stupid?.

I have said earlier that he should not have employed insults to drive home his point, so i don't know what your point is deflecting his insults to me. It seems you are still reeling from the hurt of the insults. Learn to let go.

I supported Buhari because I agreed with a lot (not all) of his policies as military head of state. He fought against corruption, indiscipline, drug trafficking, oil bunkering and money laundering. All these vices are the things that eventually brought Nigeria to where it is today. Jonathan did nothing to address these vices, in fact he tolerated and even promoted corruption. As military head of state, Buhari did not fill his cabinet with Northern muslims, I knew Tam David west personally when he was minister under Buhari, and he had quite a lot of respect for him then. No one could have predicted his nepotism in this dispensation.

Furthermore, Buhari could not have been said to corruptly enrich himself with all his high profile offices over the years. If he did, where is the money or the assets? Where did he keeps the money? Switzerland, Saudi Arabia, UK, US? Where? You can't hide billion of dollars in the world financial system. Except you allege he keep the billions of dollars in cash inside a dug grave.

ribbit:
who said I don't know trump or Hillary before 2016



Now take time to answer this.


Why are you currently supporting Biden even though he has shown or done racist things in the past?


If Biden wins today and he turns out to be worse than trump, are you gonna keep supporting him or change?

Biden might have done racist things in the past, but he had never been accused of being a racist. Even when he ran for the Vice President (or for senator), the issue of racism did not come up. Trump on the other hand had always been accused of racism even before he dreamt of running for office. Most older generation whites that lived through the civil rights period had some level of racism, as that was the prevailing mood at that time. A lot of whites, especially the collage educated ones had let go of their racist past.

If Biden wins and turn out to be as bad as trump, obviously I would criticize him. But I would not regret supporting him, because I based my judgement on the information available to me now, and the information was not wrong.
It like Buhari, I supported Buhari against Jonathan, because I believed he would defeat Islamic terrorists, eliminate or reduce corruption and unify Nigerians. He did not perform as expected and Nigeria is still the bastion of corruption, Islamic terrorists are still having a field day and Nigerians are more divided than ever. I still don't regret supporting Buhari in 2015. I would have preferred a better candidate for 2019 though.

ribbit:
[s][/s]why am I even talking to this mor0n who thinks politics is black and white.

Like I said, if you had followed 2016 campaign closely and the propaganda that went in from both sides.. you won't come here talking shit like braindead fhucktard about Hillary being better than trump because you have been brainwashed to think so.

I'm gonna ignore you now cos I'm pretty sure you are as ignorant as trump followers who want everything done zombie style.

donjazet and salford1 are right, although they need not use insults to drive home their point. Anyone who supported Trump in 2016 was either highly ignorant, a white non collage educated white (another way if saying white ignorant racist) or a christian fundamentalists.

Trump had been Trump for decades. I knew Trump in the early 90's when he was all over the news for the wrong reasons. I new him as a shrewd con man. Even cartoon descriptions and Sesame Street parodies of him going back into the 80's depicted Trump as a New York real estate con man. He has had numerous lawsuit bordering on criminality and fraud. He has had dozens of sexual abuse and even rape allegations. He had never been known to have one particular ideology. He changes views based on his audience or the times. How someone can say he is better than Hillary Clinton is amazing. Although Hillary has her flaws (and they are many), she is a saint compared to Trump's. Even the access Hollywood tapes, where Trump boasts of sexually molesting women as a habit, that came out just two weeks before the elections meant nothing to Trump's supporters. I don't know any other politicians that would have survived that. If Hillary Clinton boast of sleeping with multiple men, that would have ended here political career. The Republicans made minced meat of a simple act of using a private email server, a practice most government officials engaged( and still engage) in.

alexsoftwork:
Hushpuppi mingled with so many celebrities like wizkid,dino melaye,timi frank and so many others. why are they now pointing fingers at DaddyFreeze? Just because he dine with #Hushpuppi does not make him a fraudster.
Majority of us all have friends who are involve in one or two immoral vices that we don't know about until the day they are caught.
Una just dey beef d guy because him dey BURN una pastors cable.

If Daddy freeze cannot question the source of the wealth of people he choose to wine and dine with, then what gives him the moral rights to criticize the way pastors spend tithes and offerings.
This is a classic example of hypocrisy.