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bloodofthelamb:Why is it impossible to get it into your head that, that whether others who you have absolutely no connection with, decides to engage in pre or post marital sex is non of your fuckiñg business. The lady did not borrow your toto to do it. Not every one in the world give a fvck about spirit of Christ, in fact there are more non Christians in the world than Christians. Learn to live your life and allow others live theirs. |
softprick:My brother pull out is not effective. If you have very active and fertile sperm, a drop of precum can make a woman pregnant. You usually have no control or idea of precum. The best preventive measures are condoms, contraceptive or to some extent counting method ( you need to be very disciplined and know the lady's cycle for counting to be effective. |
Rozaytee:And you thing you that is advocating dumping or abandoning a newborn on a man who definitely does not want the baby represent womanhood? Wether she has womb or not, how is that your business? |
Another contradiction, did the bible support marrying only one wife or more than one wife? Here are some verses to confuse you; Deuteronomy 17:17 And he shall not acquire many wives for himself, lest his heart turn away. 1 Corinthians 7:2 ESV But because of the temptation to sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband. Now here are verses that contradicts the above; Exodus 21:10 ESV If he takes another wife to himself, he shall not diminish her food, her clothing, or her marital rights. Deuteronomy 21:15-17 ESV “If a man has two wives, the one loved and the other unloved, and both the loved and the unloved have borne him children, and if the firstborn son belongs to the unloved, then on the day when he assigns his possessions as an inheritance to his sons, he may not treat the son of the loved as the firstborn in preference to the son of the unloved. Okay, let the linguistic and logical gymnastics continue. |
OkCornel:Still more logical gymnastics without attending to the subject matter. Is genesis 20:12 in contradiction with deuteronomy 27:22 or not? |
Emmanystone:Are you aware that this is a very dangerous doctrine and it may someday come back and hunt you. YHWH is not the only God people worship, in fact there are as much people that worships Allah that worship YHWH. The worshippers of Allah can also get instruction through a dream to take over your land and kill off all the inhabitants, keeping the virgin young girls for themselves, afterall, according to them, Allah created the earth and even pussies. You mindset is exactly the same mindset that drives, ISIS, Boko Haram and Fulani herdsmen. Why should the Fulani herdsmen not kill and takeover your lands when the land belongs to Allah and you are an unbeliever and so an enemy of Allah. This means the worshippers of these two God's will be in a perpetual war for valuable resources in the lands promised by each adherent's God. I still it hard that educated men in the 20th century justifies killing, genocide and raping in the name of God. They were sinful, very wicked people who did so wickedly hence, YHWH wanted them erased. He said the earth upon which they lived had vomitted them out. The Israelites just cleaned the mess.Did you just call human beings mess that needed to be wiped out? You Christians are becoming monsters worse than savages. |
OkCornel:Truly Christianity seems to be the most dubious religion on the planet, you guys are ready to lie barefaced and do even worse things to convert non believers. You guys exploit the weaknesses and vulnerabilities of individuals and even nations to set them up for exploitation. Where in did it state the the order of exodus 32:27 was directed at foreigners in possession of Jewish lands? This are the events leading up to the order and subsequent massacre of thousands of people; Exodus 32:25 And when Moses saw that the people were naked; (for Aaron had made them naked unto their shame among their enemiesIt was the children Israel that were massacred for making golden calf and worshipping it. The children of Levi were mandated to carry out the massacre. There were also many other places where God ordered the killing of others to pay for various sins. 1. Exodus 22:18 KJV: Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live. 2. Leviticus 20:10 And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. 3. Leviticus 20:9 For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him. |
For all the logical and linguistic gymnastics you two are amusing yourselves with (MuttleyLaff and butterflyl1on ), you have failed to answer the questions raised by the contradictions; Is the command " Thou shall not steal" valid, or there are caveats? Are there unforgivable sins that the blood of Jesus cannot cleanse? Are you then saying that even though certain sins are not forgiven by your God? nevertheless, you can still be saved and enjoy fellowship with him in heaven? Please try and answer the questions instead of engaging in meaningless rants. |
butterflyl1on:To avoid contradictions, Exodus 20:13 should have put a caveat; " Thou shall not kill, except non Jews and Jews who worship other God's apart from YHWH". For he says to Moses, "I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion"Nice quotes. I hope you never again blame Boko Haram or ISIS for following the instructions of their own God. In fact every other religion in justified by killing unbelievers. |
butterflyl1on:Linguistic gymnastic. So you mean Jesus or God will save some without their sins being forgiven? |
Another one; Thou shalt not kill. —Exodus 20:13 And he said unto them, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbour. - Exodus 32:27 So shall we kill others or not? |
butterflyl1on:Ok. Here is one; And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven. —Luke 12:10 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. —Romans 10:13 Are all sins forgiven once somebody confesses Jesus as lord and saviour or there is one single sin that can never be forgiven, even if one confesses Jesus as saviour? |
MuttleyLaff:And you are only interested in errors instead of the substance of the argument. You must earn a living as a proof writer. For your info, I type with my phone and only re-read my posts after I have posted. It is easier to see errors after posting than in comment or edit mode. |
hopefulLandlord:I really admire your energy at engaging theists especially the Christian variety in arguments. I remember my university days when we argue from evening till the morning of the next day. At the end of the day nobody is any wiser as the theists engage in logical, spiritual and linguistic gymnastics to escape glaring illogicalities and contradictions in their bible and doctrines. A hypothetical example is; A verse says Jesus died during the day, another book in another verse says Jesus died at night. Non Christians would see contradiction, but Christians would argue a plethora of reasons. 1. It was in the late evening, so one writer saw it as day, while the second writer saw it as night. 2. It was actually night, but it was day in the part of the world the writer was located. 3. It was actually day, but the other verse said night due to translational issues. The original Greek translation actually meant late in the day, when the sun has actually gone down. But when they translated to English they removed the late, so it read as if it was day when it actually meant night. 4. It is irrelevant of Jesus died at night or in the day, the most important thing was that Jesus died, that was a fact and no contradiction there. The excuses can go on and on to explain away the numerous glaring contradictions in the bible. |
profjustine458:How does your epistle relate to the topic at hand? It says Nigeria has become the largest importer of PMS in the world, which is a huge embarrassment as the 6th largest producer of crude and you are here still crying over Jonathan's loss of almost 3 years ago. Jonathan was part of the failed leadership that had failed Nigeria. Were you aware that the trillions of naira Jonathan paid to subsidy thieves could have been used to maintain existing refineries and built new ones, thereby avoiding the embarrassing position we found ourselves today. |
shaybebaby:Sheybebaby, I was browsing through your posts. What happened to your "online purchasing and shipping from UK" business you started about 6 years ago? Are you still helping people ship goods from UK to Nigeria? |
Hhenryy:Everyone has his or her style. The madam likes going straight to the point - logical, precise and short. You on the other hand loves long illogical and irattional verbal gymnastics. The madam obviously knows what she is talking about, I suspect she is in the medical field. She went online to search for sites (youtube one at that ) to debunk your ignorance that it was not possible to give birth without feeling pain. Would have labeled you a kid but you claimed to have given birth, let me respect that claim. I'm a very busy person and I don't have time for protracted rants and arguments on an anonymous online forum.And you think you are older, more accomplished or busier than the madam? As you said this is an anonymous forum, just let's leave it at that. |
Hhenryy:And how do you measure the amount of pain all animals have during child birth? Do you have a pain meter or you can communicate with animals to ask them the degree of pain they experience during child birth. Note that there are some species of animals that die soon after giving birth. You are just engaging in linguistic gymnastics to explain the in pain will you give birth "curse" in genesis. All animals experience some kind of pain giving birth, even those that simply lay egg feel pain. The bible did not even state that eve's pain would be the greatest, it simply states pain. |
shaybebaby:Solid gold. |
shaybebaby:This is the best response so far. Man I do not believe rational human beings can write some of the things I am reading here, it seems religion shuts out the reasoning part of the brain. We give birth not because of any God or heaven, but because we are wired to replicate our genes, that is the main purpose of life. ALL LIVING THINGS give birth, from viruses to whales to plants, it has nothing to do with heaven or hell. Someone saying his purpose of living is to go to heaven means his life is purposeless. What are you going to do in heaven when enjoyment means different things to different people. What will someone that loves alcohol, sex and food enjoy in the Christian heaven( maybe the person should try the Muslim heaven). The concept of heaven is found only in a few religions, ie Christianity and Islam, which got the concept from ancient Greek religion. Even Judaism dies not have the concept of heaven. |
Diickrider:It is because of mind control or brainwashing. Successfull religious and sometimes political figures have the ability to control the minds of their followers sometimes to the point of putting their lives on the line to defend the religious leaders. They use subtle subconscious mind control techniques to take control the minds of their followers without them even realising it. See pastor Daniel lesego using hypnosis to abuse his followers here; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hezvOL9ooUE |
akinade28:Yes he was forced or rather coerced to give the money. These charlatans called men of god use imtimidation, threats, hypnosis and various scams to coerce money from unsuspecting members to fuel their exorbitant life styles. Yes, a proper charity organization must care about the source of donations it receives. Even businesses such as financial institutions and betting companies are mandated to inform the EFCC about the source of monies they receive if it goes beyond a certain threshold. |
bidexyemi:It's not that simple, women also contribute to the sex of a baby, unless you are insinuating that it is possible for a man to release tens of millions of sperm without any one bearing the y (male) chromosome. Sex of a baby are determined by; 1. The x:y ratio of the sperm released. 2. The timing of copulation. 3. The PH of the woman's body which is determined by her diet. Alkaline PH favours y chromosome sperms, while acidic favours x chromosome carrying sperm. So eating acidic foods and gulping down carbonated mineral drinks does not favour y chromosome carrying sperm. 4. Receptivity of the egg to x or y chromosome. Believe it or not, some women have eggs that shows preference for either of the chromosomes. It is sometimes genetic, some families have a predominance of one sex as against the other. Women in my wife's family almost always have a 4:1 ratio of boys to girls. |
KNEO777:Sad story, but I have learnt not to pass judgement based on one side of a story, we need to hear from the husband's side. In the meantime, the story get as e be. How can the woman say she has no where to go, did she fall from Mars? Does she not have any family or friends? Does she not have someone she can call to help her temporarily until she can go to her family's house? Was she really married to the "husband", either traditionally, religiously or legally, because if bride price was paid on her head, the woman's family would come for the head of the man and his family, and if they are legally married, the law would come for the man( assuming the woman knows her rights), the husband cannot sent the wife out of their matrimonial home without a court ordered divorce settlement. Is she really sure the 10yr old belongs to the man or was the man unsure of the paternity of the girl? No man would throw his own 10yr old into the streets, no matter how angry he is at the mother or the gender of the child. Paternal instinct will always kick in. Finally, why now? How come the husband waited 10 years before he rejected the child because of her sex. I assume the husband has been caring for the child for the past 10 years, so why did he suddenly disown the child because of the woman's ability to bear a male (or any other child). What would have happened if in those 10 years of trying she gave birth to more female children? Why did she decide to sleep outside a bank? I would have thought a church or mosque would have been more appropriate. How are we sure the lady is not schizophrenic. |
Mhyketh:To us unbelievers, can you please explain what the word "only begotten son" means. What does it mean by to beget, then why only one son? Could the method used to beget one son not be used to beget another or even a daughter. Why could Jesus not have brothers or even sisters? |
CROWNWEALTH019:You worship the sun the same way Muslims worships the moon. You venerate Sun Day, a day dedicated to the sun instead of sabbath day which is Saturday. You revere and worship the day the sun is said to have been reborn in the northern hemisphere as the day your lord is born. You revere the Sunday after the full moon after the spring equinox as the day your lord died. And you have the audacity to accuse others of worshiping celestial bodies. The fact that you are ignorant of the origins of your religious practices should not give you the rights to criticise the practices of others you are equally ignorant about. |
butterflyl1on:Man your ignorance is blinding, not just on the subject of biology but also on simple logic. First the fact that there are gaps in a theory or any other subject matter does not invalidate the whole subject matter. It only shows areas of insufficient knowledge or evidence. I doubt you even have an idea of what gaps you are talking about. There are gaps in all fields of science and in fact all knowledge. There are still gaps in the theory of gravity, relatively theory, quantum theory, etc; these gaps do not invalidate the theories. We are talking about single cell organisms and you are asking if the first single celled organism had sexual organs, are you sure you are alright? Maybe you need to get some sleep to reset your brain. Do you understand what an organ is? I can't even understand what you wrote by this statement; If it was the first single celled organism then it had no need for reproduction since it was alone so the issue of mutations or natural selection shouldn't have been the case.You said the first single celled oganism had no need for reproduction; how can a living organism have no need for reproduction? In JSS biology the first thing you are taught is reproduction being the main characteristic of life. |
Ericsunday619:Amazing statement. Do you even know what the word evolution mean? Check out the meaning of evolution and tell me if there is any thing in the universe that does not evolve. |
mohemos:It is a good thing you wrote evolutionists (or biologists ) and not atheists as written in your heading. Atheism does not equate to evolution. It has been pointed out again and again that Atheism is thousands of years older than evolution, and that Charles Darwin the propounder of the theory of evolution was a theist. How exactly did we arrive at two separate genders, each with its own physiology?We arrived at two seperate genders when unicellular cells started clumping together to form multicellular organism, separating the genders was the most efficient means of genetic mixing and so offer a greater number of genetic variations, which is essential in evolution. Why sex?Without sex how will the two gametes come together to exchange chromosomes, especially if the organism is outside water? Some organisms that live in water do not require sex, the female lays the eggs in water and the male releases the sperm over the eggs. Is sex the product of a historical accident or the product of an intelligent Creator?As said above sex is an evolutionary solution to multicellular organisms living outside water. Please explain how an intelligent Creator can be responsible for sex? An intelligent Creator does not require sex to create, he can create organisms with clay or even words. Modified:Evolution is not a spontaneous action or metamorphosis, it is a gradual process one little step at a time. It is obvious you have zero knowledge of evolution or biology, please take time to read this link to have an idea of evolution of sex; https://www.sapiens.org/column/origins/sexual-evolution-pleasure/ |
CoolUsername:Bingo! You nailed it. The source of morality is evolution and not religion. Socual Animals evolve moral codes to enhance their changes of survival of their specie in social groups. All animals that live in large social groups must evolve certain moral codes for social stability.. Many animals have high standard of moral codes like termites, bees, elephants, hyenas, etc. Religion on the other hand is antithetical to morality, that might not be obvious at surface level, but if you look deeper, religion justifies and some promotes all sorts of immoral anti social behaviours like killing and exploitation of others that hold different religious believes. If you read the bible and Quoran, you will see many immoral behaviours by today's standard being justified and even promoted, ie slavery, incest, genocide, rape, etc. |
HigherEd:The forerunner to Christianity, Judaism also practiced anilal and human rituals. At there are two examples of attempted human sacrifices in your bible. Ask your fore fathers who practiced OSU caste system which has been largely pushed back by ChristianityThe forefathers of your colonial and spiritual masters also practiced a system worse than OSU caste system, they practiced slavery in which they dehumanised their captured or bought slaves. When they wage war on neighbouring communities, they kill all the men and old ladies and rape young girls. Ask your fore fathers who were cured of common and treatable sicknesses which erstwhile killed many in their communities by medical missionaries.Are you telling us that no one was living in black African communities before the coming of the missionaries? Are you also telling us that common treatable diseases did not kill your colonial and spiritual masters before the acceptance of the germ theory and the discovery of penicillin? Ask your fore fathers who sacrifice twins because their gods and demons wanted it so, which Christian missions eventually stopped.The fore fathers of your colonial and spiritual masters also offer to sacrifice their children to their God. Ask your fore fathers who lived in forests bare naked and were clothed after being found by mission groups.The forefathers of your colonial and spiritual masters lived in the open desert and roam around like Fulani herdsmen, killing other people to steal their lands. Ask your forefathers who helped them dig up clean water to drink instead of the erosion laced water they erstwhile drank.The forefathers of your white God also drank water from steams, lakes, Rivers and Wells. Ask your fore fathers who taught them to stick with one wife during an era when men acquired women as properties and assetsFalse! The forefathers of your white masters did not preach or practice monogamy. Almost all the lots of prophets of their holy book had 2 wives, Solomon had hundreds. Women were and are still not equal with men, read your bible to understand the role and function of women in Judaism and Christianity. Ask your forefathers these many questions you bloody ingrates, hpocritic generation of vipers!If you have hatred for your forefathers, your culture and your self, that is your own sicknesses. Lots of us are proud of our heritage. |
LordReed:You have time to be arguing with a trump supporter. No matter what trump says or do they are ready to die for him. Remember Trump said he could shoot somebody and not lose voters ; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTACH1eVIaA |
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