₦airaland Forum

Elusive001:
I am igbo team as usual
See them ooooo. Those who are not proud of their heritage and tribe.

Please how many watts did Tinubu add to power generation to make it stable? So he is disco now abi?


Una and fear eh. You vote tinubu, you no vote him, it is immaterial.

Go and rest. Stop bypassing your meter as you do.

Please try and practice remaining silent sometimes rather than speak to then show ignorance an 8 year old should not be guilty of.

Is it generation alone that gets power into your home? That is your clue and I need say no more. You've embarrassed yourself enough

OfoIgbo:
He did not improve anything.

He only quadrupled the cost of electricity, which resulted in people drastically reducing their usage of electricity. That is why there now seems to be constant electricity.
People who used to use ACs, have now drastically cut down on the time the ACs are on. Some people have even quit using ACs and now use just fans.

See excuse ntori oloun 😲😲😳😳 This is something else entirely sha. Let me not talk further and receive ban.

helinues:
Better. At least it's good that this is coming from Miyetti Allah

Fulanis have truly hit rock bottom per their reputation in the eyes of all other Nigerians. It is time for the good one among them to make the effort to show that their are good, progressive and productive people from the ethnic group.

Welcome development in my opinion. Especially the ban on night grazing and wielding of firearms if such will be implemented fastidiously by Miyetti Allah while they also allow Amotekun, NPF etal to deliver justice to Fulanis found flouting these directives.

SeeWahala:
Good morning helinues so na this kind thread Sweet for you to finally make your input on the matter of insecurity in your region 🤗

Hehehehe 😂🤣 you want to clap for people who you say 'take responsibility' now when for the past week nobody saw you on these type of threads even after we called you numerous times


Well, you have to strart from somewhere to be condemning sha, it's good 😊

You have nothing to do on Monday morning, supposedly the start of a productive week for focused and ambitious people, than to be looking for those to troll rather than stick to subject matter progressively?

Good development from Miyetti Allah. If they are sincere with this announcement, and ensure implementation is thorough, then good Fulanis can regain the goodwill Nigerians had for them decades ago in the days of our parents.

Shebi Tambuwal has now joined ADC. Let's see how many PDP legislator wll following him to the coalition of born-to-rule desperados called ADC. Shior.

tunde1200:
Some Yoruba are shallow minded humans.
I felt bad about some of them here for their comment on their own race like as they're not from Yoruba blood line.

Bro, forget the Yoruba username and their claim of "I am Yoruba but". Most are not Yorubas.

We know those in Nigeria who are greatest at impersonation, spreading fake news and deploying propaganda.

SonofLagos:
indeed my beautiful Lagos is on the rise…..that’s why we are the envy of our greedy and covetous olojukokoro neighbours they wish they have what we have. No wonder they all want to claim Lagos. If given the opportunity, they can deny their heritage just to claim Lagos yorubaland. May God continue to bless Lagos with visionary leaders…..Eko oni baje oo

The bolded is 100% true and no greater proof than how you will never see a single one of them commenting positively or joyously on a thread like.

If they are a people who assimilate, rather than seek to dominate always to then get angry and bitter when such is not possible, then they would be in this thread jubiliating over positive developments in a state they live, work and thrive in. Many millions of them for that matter.

tunde1200:
Who master mind the protest no be you people from that side.
If you're in his position don't do anything to safe guide the citizens.

What is hypocritically warped about those people (since they are protected species here you must not mention by name anyhow) is that Kanu they demand is innocent and must be freed is the same individual who directed his disciples, recorded on audio, to burn Lagos, attack and Kill Tinubu, Sanwo Olu etal plus destroys all the known business locations of the leaders of Lagos.

China's a Michael obviously obeyed Kanu to then go and burn a BRT park coating billions in damage.

Kanu then directed them to ensure no one attacks any corner of the SE. Today his freedom is a regional project for them while they continue to bark that Sanwo Olu, Tinubu etal deserve to be hanged. Is this not shades of the Igbo coup?

They remain maniacally supportive of such an evil character, i.e Kanu, yet it is Sanwo Olu, who is not in charge of the Army, they wish to heap blame on over #EndSARS in Lagos .

They are something else and I only wish more Yorubas open their eyes to see the obvious

naptu2:
Here we go again! 🙄

Is Governor Sanwo-Olu in the chain of command? Does he have any military position?

He has already said what he knows about that day (that people began calling him to find out what was happening, so he too began calling people in the chain of command) and people in the chain of command have corroborated what he said.

(Nigerians know very little about their country).

The bolded is the sad reality of Nigeria pragmatic and critical thinking folks know is a big problem for our nation.

Herkim:
Hello sir,

You can't compare internally generated Lagos State revenue to other states in Nigeria. Lagos State remain the commercial hub of this Nation

Indeed and I know and accept that. My point is related the DAWN initiative "Road Map" which provides innovative plans the SW can use to gain integrated and interdependent progress for all states of the region.

For sure no other State can be like Lagos in the SW but Governors can put selfishness aside to be their brother's keeper meaning resources, natural endowment and advantages can be pooled together, with richer States like Lagos, Ogun and Oyo sacrificing, to ensure every SW State can be assisted to develop as much as possible.

That is what the DAWN road map advocates and it is a feasible plan as I have read and inspected it. DAWN simplicity is in how it advocates we think as if the SW is one State that needs all her districts developed. Same as a Governor must try to develop all areas of his State.

naptu2:
I know that that guy is just trying to derail the thread (so that the good news will not be celebrated) and I shouldn't respond to him, but I will comment on it just once, in the interest of truth.

He creates the impression that the governors left their states simply to say goodbye to Tinubu, yet that is a lie.

The governors had a meeting in Abuja after which they paid a condolence visit to the APC chairman whose mother recently died. They also paid a condolence visit to the Kogi State governor whose father recently died. The visit was at the governor's Abuja residence. Many events were scheduled around these meetings, for example, Sanwo-Olu attended the Gitex-AI Summit on September 1st, North-East governors met with the president on September 3rd, the Niger State governor met with the FIRS boss, etc.

On their way back they also said farewell to the president who was travelling on the same day that they were returning to their states.

How can that be described as leaving their states just to say bye to the president at the airport?

Dont even sweat it baba. Keep doing your thing. We appreciate your unique and informative contributions here.

It is those with hateful and bitter hearts who remain prisoners in their own bodies because, unless they change, they cannot escape the negative thoughts that will be with them always ruining the beauty and joy life is supposed to be about.

There is nothing better in life than having a progressive, kind, tolerant, joyous and open-minded soul because such helps to appreciate how beautiful the earth and humanity can be. I feel sorry for those whose DNA makes them the opposite of that.

Trouble, as is their historical reality, is all they will get everywhere they go.

drstranged:
Excellent submission. I buy and completely agree with your point 100%

Thanks baba. We cannot focus on today only to then become dejected. We must retain hope and optimism and work towards a better future for our generations unborn. What do we wish to leave for them to inherit?

A successful and progressive society or a hell hole of suffering and deprivation? Awolowo was a wonderful, visionary , selfless and benevolent leader. He did things for the future of his Yoruba people and would have done same for Nigeria had he been allowed to be President instead of Shagari.

If we had ten like him then all of us can simply go to bed every night knowing greatness for the SW is assured.

Penguin2:
Was it before or after he left his job in Lagos to go and say bye bye to Tinubu at Abuja airport?🤔

I couldn’t help but shudder at people’s fathers disgracing themselves.

Lol. What would these sort of thread be without at least one negative and vitriolic comment from you bad belle lot.

You people are simply averse to seeing/praising the progressive actions and deliveries of others. What a terrible way to be.

WorldRichest:
Where is the railway which contract Peter Obi signed when he was governor?

Where is the railway which Rotimi Amaechi spent billions to start when he was governor?

Those are two of the new Messiahs of the shallow thinkers

Amaechi is even far better than Obi who is a sad joke as far as political leadership is concerned whereas his people tout him a messiah to then be attacking PBAT.

I truly believe PBAT, if in power for 8 years, will faciliate the effective rail linkage of most major cities and districts of the SW to make it an expanded and interdependent economic bloc like the EU.

As things Stand, the lagos metro rail has a modular design meaning it can be extended in diffrent directions.

The Blue line terminating at Marina currently will reach Epe. From that point it can extend into Ogun State and beyond. So much possibilities for the SW if visionary leadership, as Lagos seems to always have, can anchor the processes needed to deliver accelerated socio-economic development.

Clowns like Adeleke and some others need to go though as their sort will always be weak links and clogs in the wheel of progress.

Ttalk:
With the president or no president SW will continue to be the pacesetter.Others can continue to wait for the presidency that won't get to them in their lifetime.

Indeed. In fact, the greatest and most pivotal period of progress Lagos recorded, post 1999, was achieved while she was in political opposition to the ruling Party under Tinubu and Fashola. It is the reason I will always respect PBAT and Fashola.

If Ogun State can get a truly dynamic and visionary Govenor post Dapo Abiodun, and the SW take the implementation of the DAWN regional integration road map very seriously, then we would literally be in another millenium in ten years time.

This is why I think other region's focus on the Presidency is misguided. The Presidency is not a magic wand to suddenly make every Nigerian wealthy, happy and fulfilled.

What the Presidency should do is remove bottleneck so those who truly want peace, progress and socio-economic greatness can achieve such without 'one Nigeria' impediment.

What all regions should be seeking is greater autonomy over their socio-economic decision-making and direction, including full control over security parastatals, so they can make optimal progress commensurate with their human and material endowment if that is indeed what they truly desire.

Softmirror:
What you are trying to project is exactly the same case with many who have died as the result of being labeled as witches. No pronouncement by judges but mob attacks but you were so upset because I broadened the perspective.

Below is the content on Nairaland that people didn't even pay attention to. Just like you. The bolded is an emphasis. DONT BE BIAS ABEG!

Bro, you are trying too hard to redeem yourself. From the start, I condemned the bolded.

My point is that virtually all fellow Southerners will condemn such in unison with me and even conduct citizens arrest of the offender to then hand them over to the police because extrajudicial killing of anyone, for any reason, is wrong in the South. Period.

Whereas in the North, the lynching of so called religious blasphemers is right and just in the eyes of virtually all Northerners.

I really dont get your obtuse and obdurate conduct here.

stuffs2002:
Abegi... Go and sit down.

E be like say eye dey pain you. Where in my post did I say anyone should be killed for saying anything? Why is it so difficult for Christians to not insult Muslims and Islam? Why can't you tell your people to keep their mouths away from Islam and Muslims? Why are you defending your unruly Christian brothers and sisters?

Everyone knows Muslims don't joke with their religion yet you chose to stoke up a fight knowing fully well the implications and will now cry victim when the fire consumed you.

Do you even know it is a crime to incite religious unrest in Nigeria and a person may be tried and jailed for incitement

You're shameless and a repellent fundamentalist. Should criminal action not be punishable by order of a Judge in a competent Court of law?

It is okay, as you imply, for a public lynch mob to kill, machete and burn someone to death they claim has offended them yet has not been subjected to a fair hearing?
Something is wrong with you. What is pathetic is that you do not realize that.

11doubledee:

Now you're trying to be half as smart and i will fall for that manipulation for just a minute.
But you know within yourself killing in the name of Allah makes absolutely no sense today in the 21st century.
And I honestly know it will be difficult for you to speak the truth to them make we no lose you too to lynching.
But pls and pls when we see bad things it is better to be mute than try to justify evil.
Can anyone live in Nigeria today as a Christian without relating with traditionalist and Muslims?
And vice versa,except you are always indoors.
Like i always say let love lead,those prophets did their best through teachings in making today better, let's also do our best in making tomorrow much more better.

That is what he should have done to begin with rather than doubling down on his erroneous initial opinion.

Softmirror:
There is absolutely no reason why I can get banned. Why?! Because I stated a trend and pattern of killings in Nigeria?!

You're lying. You have not established any trend or pattern. No one will tell you killings cannot ever be committed by overzealous Christians, on religious grounds, in the South.

Yet such is uncommon and ,when it occurs, will lead to the 100% gauranteed prosecution of the offender in the SE, SW and SS.

You've really discredited yourself doubling down on a deceitful and redundant argument when you should have just remained silent when initially engaged over your flawed submission.

We ought to be taking the North to task, at every opportunity, to insist they move into modernity, embrace a fair degree of secularity and become more moderate like Turkey etal.

Rather than encouraging them, as you are attempting to do gaslighting Christians, to believe it is okay for them to keep moving backwards till they become worse than Somalia, Afghanistan etal.

stuffs2002:
You can also tell your Christian brothers and sisters to learn to curb their mouths by not instigating violence through their blasphemous words because it takes two to tangle and Muslims can only take so much.

No one should be killed over blasphemy against a religion. As simple as that. What is done in Nigeria is condemned worldwide and attract serious punishment. Mere words,however offensive, warrants execution how?

It is the North keeping Nigeria backwards since they simply refuse to move into the modern age, as Turkey and Saudi Arabia etal have done, while your kind abet their madness because you do not understand societies must bravely challenge and reject barbaric behaviour, to grow and thrive, rather than tolerate or make excuses for such..

Tijani009:
The guy who proposed and called the crowd should be charged for murder

Simple as that but it won't happen because what he has done is commendable in the eyes of many leaders at all levels of society in the North. I.e religious, political, cultural and even security forces leaders.

He may have hidden behind defending Islam from "blasphemy" after his advances were spurned by the lady but the fact is no one cares in the North to invesyihate because the common opinion is that instant and extrajudicial death is acceptable punishment for his allegation against the lady for blaspheming Islam.

In fact I started this topic because of the similar horrendous killing of Deborah that was alleged to have been a case of her spurning the amorous advances of her killer, a fellow student, who then claimed she insulted Islam to justify her killing.

They stoned her to death and burned her. The North, from cultural leaders to religious leader and political leaders failed to condemn the development let alone demand justice foe Deborah Yakubu.


In fact it was the International Federation of Women Lawyers (FIDA) and the Nigerian Bar Association (NBA) and many voices and institutions in the South most vocal condemning the development while the North maintained a conspiracy of silence.

Atiku even abandoned her and non of the Northerners very vocal about politics today spoke up for her.

It has happened again and will keep happening unless we speak to demand action from Northern leaders at all levels since evidence show they are tacitly endorsing what we are seeing hence it's recurrence.

ruzell86:
Well said.

The North and South of Nigeria are two regions with entirely different ideology, religion and people.... completely different, It's sad.

Absolutely. We must bridge that gap to then be under one constitution and common law or go our seperate ways before such happens violently and at huge cost to Nigeria and Nigerians.

It is only Southerners that can take the North to task and force the region to recognise that our constitution and laws are supreme to religion which should be private practice in any nation that is officially secular. For the absence of doubt I repeat it again that Nigeria is a secular nation and not an Islamic nation or Christian one exclusively.

Because of cowardice, ignorance, lack of exposure, absence of conviction and indifference, Southerners allow the North get away with what Moslems and Christians cannot get away with in most nations of the world with a considerable population of both.

We are a nation with many illiterate, unexposed, over-religious, superstitious and ignorant folks. This was same for many developed nations of the world in the past. They used to burn Witches at the stake in England in the past.

Yet the crucial difference is that, once formal education took a foothold in issues, those in the bolded category above were not continously indulged by nations like the UK.

They were forced to reform so that society can become better, more progressive and more developed to serve all citizens optimally.

Whether Christian kill in the South and Moslem do samein the North, in the name of religion, is not the issue. What is important is that killing on grounds of religion must be a criminal offence with serious punishment to include the death penalty.

This is the case in the South but not the North where religion is allowed to overshadow and subjugate Nigerian common laws.

How can we ever become a developed nation when we have not even conquered this fundamental disparity crucial to the success of nations?

This is why I am an unapologetic supporter of regional autonomy so we can all go and live as we desire in our regions with like-minded people.

Softmirror:
Exactly my point. #bolded. The context of killings in the name of religion differs. I stated this from the very onset. You just need to pay more attention. It is very rampant more than to think in the Southern dominated Christians.

Stop going around in circles and irritatingly. I have made my point crystal clear.

Ritual killing is common in the South. Even in my native South West. Yet the right thing is being done to end it i.e the action of clamping down on it by making it a criminal offence that will be punished by the law.

So what if Christians killing in the name of religion is common in the South according to you? Is the society and law in the South tacitly supportive of those guilty of the offence, as if they have done good, to the extent they are not even apprehended, when they are known to law enforcement let alone punished as obtains in the North?

I have lived majority of my life in a western nation of the world where criminal action , such as murder, are uniformly punishable in the eyes of the law. If you are Pakistani living in the UK you cannot commit 'honour killing' and get away with it, because you daughter married a Christian, as would be the case in Pakistan.

Same as no Caucasian Christian fundamentalist can bomb a mosque in Birmingham or London and be sparred lengthy jail sentence because he is 'defending" Jesus.

That is the homogeneity of respecting common laws and thinking, over crucial consideration, that makes a people who are very different able to unite and build progressive nations and societies. .

If we do not have and cannot build that homogeneous respect for sacrosanct issues, all Nigerians must respect, regardless of religious, ethnic or cultural affiliation, then what hope for us building a great nation together?

Bro, you are better than this and tend to make sense most times here. Retrace your step and stop continuation of redundant talk to defend an argument you got wrong from the beginning because you wanted to play to the gallery with a very serious issue the North should be confronted with rather than indulged over as you are doing here.

Softmirror:
I did that on purpose because aiming at the context which is you will never find Muslims killing anyone by alledging that they are witches. It is a Christian beliefs that is very historical even in far Europe let alone Africa. Such is rampant in the Southern part of the country that is predominantly Christian. Pay more attention.

I think you are the one not paying attention. The central issues is that premeditated murder, on any ground is wrong and must be condemned consistently across Nigeria. This is the case in Southern Nigeria.

In the North, highlighting an area we are not tackling unitedly and you seemingly make excuses for here, religion creates a gray areas for a nation that wishes to succeed by hosting a people who have homogeneity of ideas regarding sacrosanct consideration.

For any crime committed by man, only a court should be allowed to decree the punishment of death. Never man in a summary execution. That is how it works in civilised nation.

Mentioning Christians committing murder over superstitious belief is merely playing to the gallery on your part because, per the central issue of fundamentalist and religion-related killing, such is condemned and punishable by law across the South in Nigeria. 💯%.

In the South, what you kill for does not matter as the law insists you must and will be punished for the offence.

The same does not hold for the North where killing in defence of Islam is seen as just and fitting punishment for blasphemy to then create a system disdainful of the common laws of a nation all citizens are obligated to respect.

This means a nation that should be one is hosting two contrasting opinion over the gravest crime a man can commit. I.e taking the law into his own hand to execute another.

You are educated. Killing for Christianity in the South will not shield you from punishment. The opposite is the case in the North and it is time Nigerians task the North to fall in line and stop acting as if religion is an excuse for them to commit serious offences contravening the common laws of a Nation they belong to.

These are issues, if progressive, the likes of Atiku, El Rufai, SLS, Ndume, Datti Baba-Ahmed and so many other Northerners, alway loquacious about politics and power, should tackle and bring clarity to.

No gray area, or tacit endorsement, over taking the life of another in the South. Same must apply to the North without religion being allowed to be exoneration for what is the worst crime in life.

There always uncomfortable conversation citizens of nations must have, regarding fundamentally crucial issues for the betterment of their nation.

Americans even opposed each other, leading to a civil war, because some believed slaves must be free men while others felt otherwise.

Your attempt at political correctness shows you don't understand this crucial consideration essential to building a truly United, progressive and peaceful nation.

Softmirror:
It is sad, such trends by religiosity claiming lives. Muslims and Christians are guilty of this the context only differs.

I am yet to hear of a case to do with Christians killing over blasphemy againt their God.

You cannot compare killings by Christians commited over superstitious fear, which is rare and condemned in the South anyway and will be punished severely, to killings over blasphemy in the North that is common, casually endorsed/approved by most Northerners at all levels of society and therefore goes unpunished.

Two very seperate things. Kill in the South over religion and you will be arrested, charged for murder in a competent Court of law and jailed.

Same occurrence in over-religious North, where the view that killing in defence of Islam is just and fitting, carries no consequences for the offender. That is wrong and condemnable.

The North must criminalise the practice, as is the case with the South , and I believe you should understand the need to respect the sanctity of human life must be consistent across Nigeria otherwise it is a good case for the North and South to be seperate nations.

Different people and regions of a nation should not have separate and contradictory viewpoint over fundamentally important issues such as societal endorsement of what is universally condemnable i.e casual killings of our fellow human beings.
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Mob burns Nigerian woman to death for alleged blasphemy.

Chris Ewokor BBC News in Abuja

A woman has been burnt to death by a mob in northern Nigeria's Niger state after she was accused of blaspheming the Prophet Muhammad, police have said.

Police condemned the killing of the woman - identified in local media as a food vendor named Amaye - as "jungle justice", saying that an investigation was under way to arrest and prosecute the perpetrators.

Local media quoted eyewitnesses as saying a man jokingly proposed marriage to the vendor, and her response was considered blasphemous by some people in the area.

"Unfortunately, it led to a mob attack, and [she] was set ablaze before a reinforcement of security teams could arrive at the scene," state police spokesman Wasiu Abiodun said.

He appealed to members of the public to remain calm and not to take the law into their own hands following the killing on Saturday in Kasuwan-Garba town.

Such killings are not uncommon in northern Nigeria, where blasphemy is regarded as a criminal offence under Islamic (Sharia) law, which operates alongside secular law in 12 mainly Muslim states.

Rights group Amnesty International said that blasphemy was often "weaponised to settle personal scores" in northern Nigeria.

A minor disagreement or argument, often "deliberately orchestrated", leads to accusations of blasphemy, "and then the mob lynches the accused instantly", it said.

At least two other people have been lynched over such accusations in the last three years, with critics pointing out that not enough is being done to prevent the killings that have targeted both Muslims and Christians.

In 2022, student Deborah Samuel was beaten and burned alive in Sokoto state after being accused of making blasphemous comments.

Last year, a butcher, Usman Buda, was stoned to death in the same state under similar circumstances.

Though Nigeria's constitution upholds freedom of speech, the country remains deeply divided on matters of faith and justice.

Nigeria's Supreme Court has in the past ruled that blasphemy allegations must be proven in a court of law.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5y21zxyd6mo

SmartyPants:
A police force that is not genuinely motivated to serve. And it's not because of money because these officers still rake in windfall from extortion. The fundamental issue is a lack of innate motivation.

When you are tasked with protecting your own people, you won't need to be paid millions to sit up and do your job proactively.

This is more so the case when we are dealing with security threats that are invasive in nature (which means they are not from the local area).

Would you expect, for example, a Fulani officer to diligently go after Fulani terrorists in a town in Bayelsa the same way an officer from that town would?

So there is a lack of innate motivation in most cases, and in certain extreme cases, there is even the presence of active malice towards host communities. Money cannot solve these issues.

Well-said. You are a real "SmartyPants". I don't know why the points you make eloquently is so difficult for some Nigerians to discern given so many reality we are living witnesses to.

Such as how Malami, while AGF, declared Amotekun illegal and did everything to prevent the legal birth of the unit so Southerners would remain powerless and disadvantaged against militant Fulani herdsmen Northern big men have armed illegally with AK47 asault rifles to go and cause mayhem across Nigeria.

Whereas Hisbah and co are formed overnight in the North. Some Nigerians are self-destructive like lemmings. They will use their own legs to walk off the edge of a cliff to their death merely because their eyes are open but unseeing.

bjdon:
We are not ready for state police. Governors will just use ut as a tool for political oppression.

Why do you people keep making this redundant argument? Change is the only thing constant in life. We must embrace State/regional policing as the only answer to our insecurity woes given how Nigeria has evolved.

Let Governors abuse it for "political oppression". So far as State policing improves the security of the lives of ordinary Nigerians and their property then let politicians kill themselves for all I care.

Making this argument shows you are like Nigerian Pastors who should be saving souls of ordinary Nigerians but more obsessed with talking politics and ingratiating themselves with politicians when such is not done in other nations of the world.

You are worried about politicians, a very minute percentage of the population, whereas , and naturally, you should be most concerned for ordinary Nigerians who face the threat of death, kidnap, rape, robbery etal daily that most politicians will never have to experience.

The warped personality of Nigeria has made you a worshipper of the elite and political class but you dont know this about yourself.

If not you will not use "political oppression", concerning politicians who are likely 0.001% of our population to dismiss State policing that will benefit the majority of Nigerians more than 230 million in number.