₦airaland Forum

najaka:
I love cold! Ice! Chilled! But they say warm is good! I am learning to drink warm water. I see the change in my system! Kudos.

My Oh My! You have a beautiful manicured hand. Your hand is Nice to stare at!

Coldfeet:
No it's a Catholic misson hospital. Get to ajah from awoyaya and enter any bus either CMS or obalende, tell the conductor you are dropping at jakande first gate! Take the pedestrian bridge to cross over then ask anybody on how to locate kisito it's very popular.

However I think the general Hospital Akodo (if I'm right ) is closer to you than kisito.

You take your time to assist in the little way u can. Been reading some of your posts and I just admire not only your beauty but the way you reply questions. You are beautiful in and out. I like u

Your arguments are shallow.

TheCabal:
This is a joke right... you might as well quote wikipedia

I'll quote wiki eve when they are right. Believe what you will.

StephDamielola:


I SEE

Beautiful lady u are! Can I call u?

Coldfeet:
You will still see something better in another man and jump ship! It's a fact you are glutton that never gets satiated! Keep counting ma.

You et beautifuuuul!

bencarson007:
He knows his responsibilities and you are only speaking as someone who has not experienced the flood in Asaba before.
My house is a two storey building at Phase 2, infant Jesus Road Asaba. When this flood comes,you need a canoe to come out... Please I am not joking.
We have caught snakes and crocodiles as well as monitor lizards there before. You get scared going home at night because you don't know what you might run into...
Take this snake and restore it back to its 'natural' habitat, trust me it will come back again in less than a month.
I am not supporting the depeleting of the rock python population though. All I am trying to say is that the snake is too dangerous in the habitat it was found in and it is not a funny esperience meeting one...

And just to let you know how dangerous and wild that area anwai is, there are monkeys around my house at a time (Phase 2)... The area is wild and the river Niger from Onitsha overflows into it...

So bros abeg pardon the killing... We no go do am again.... LolLlll

Guy cool down! The flood is not an everyday thing. Besides the python was in its right habitat; you guys are encroachers. The python should have been relocated. Its a shame Africans especially Nigerians have a looooonnnnnngggg way to go understanding how things work and are meant to be. I bet our so called yankari games reserve in bauchi is now a farm land or housing estate. Nonsense!

Sarah20A:
I hate snake , the site of it makes me shiiver

You are beautiful! A sight for my eyes alone!

Elcuba:
Maybe she is a witch

And you a wizard

MR. MAN, HER FROWNING IS SIMPLY A MESSAGE MEANING SHE DIDNT SIGN UP TO BE A HOUSE GIRL. SHE NEEDS YOU TO DEFINE WHAT TASK HER JOB IS ALL ABOUT.
SHE IS NOT YOUR MAID OR MISTRESS. YOU CANT TELL HER TO GO INTO YOUR ROOM. SHE FINDS THAT TOO PRIVATE.
DEFINE WHAT HER JOB IS ABOUT. I BELIEVE YOU WOULD ONE DAY ASK HER TO PURCHASE SOUP STUFFS FROM THE MARKET. I BET YOU WOULD SEE MORE FROWNS THAT DAY.

IF THE JOB IS OFFICIAL; LET IT REMAIN SO. NOT MIXING DOMESTIC TASK WITH OFFICIAL DUTIES.

MR. MAN, HER FROWNING IS SIMPLY A MESSAGE MEANING SHE DIDNT SIGN UP TO BE A HOUSE GIRL. SHE NEEDS YOU TO DEFINE WHAT TASK HER JOB IS ALL ABOUT.
SHE IS NOT YOUR MAID OR MISTRESS. YOU CANT TELL HER TO GO INTO YOUR ROOM. SHE FINDS THAT TOO PRIVATE.
DEFINE WHAT HER JOB IS ABOUT. I BELIEVE YOU WOULD ONE DAY ASK HER TO PURCHASE SOUP STUFFS FROM THE MARKET. I BET YOU WOULD SEE MORE FROWNS THAT DAY.

IF THE JOB IS OFFICIAL; LET IT REMAIN SO. NOT MIXING DOMESTIC TASK WITH OFFICIAL DUTIES.

Not photoshopped but it ain't clear n sharp!

Continued...

But let us suppose that the phrase "El Gibbor" (Mighty God) is actually applied to Messiah, rather than to One who makes/anoints the Messiah. Would this mean that Jesus is Yahweh his God, the God who anointed and made him the Christ, the Messiah? (Psalm 45:7; Isaiah 61:1; Acts 2:36; 4:27; 10:38; Hebrews 1:9) Absolutely not! First, we should note that this name is not given to the Son of Yahweh until after he has been given by Yahweh to Israel. It has no application to Jesus in a pre-human existence.

In keeping with the rest of the scriptures, the application of the phrase "EL GIBBOR" to the Messiah, usually rendered as "Mighty God", would only mean that the Anointed One is given power and might by the only true God. This usage is demonstrated by the King James Version rendering in the following verses: Genesis 23:6 (mighty);
Genesis 30:8 (mighty);
Genesis 31:29 (power);
Deuteronomy 28:32 (might);
1 Samuel 14:15 (great);
Nehemiah 5:5 (power);
Psalm 8:5 (angels);
Psalm 36:6 (great);
Psalm 82:1 (mighty);
Proverbs 3:27 (power);
Psalm 29:1 (mighty);
Ezekiel 32:21 (strong);
Jonah 3:3 (exceeding).

The expression "Mighty God" (el gibbor) is applicable to Jesus in a similar, but greater sense, as it was applicable to the Babylonish kings spoken of in Ezekiel 32:21, where the same expression in the plural is used. In that verse, the phrase is not translated as "Mighty Gods", but it is usually translated as something like, "The strong among the mighty." (King James Version) Applying a similar rendering to Isaiah 9:6 would give us "strong one among the mighty", or, if it is to be rendered as a separate title, "mighty one of power." Jesus is indeed a mighty one of power, having been given all the plenitude of might bodily that he needs to carry out the purposes of his God and Father. (Colossians 2:9,10) Jesus, since his resurrection, has also become the "everlasting father," "the life-giving spirit," since it is through, by means of, him that the human race is regenerated / made alive. (Matthew 19:28; 1 Corinthians 15:21,22,45) Those regenerated in this age are regenerated by tasting of the powers of the age to come (Hebrews 6:5), receiving the holy spirit as an earnest, a down payment of that which is to come. (2 Corinthians 1:21; 2 Corinthians 5:5; Ephesians 1:14) None of this means that Jesus is his God and Father, the only true God who sent Jesus. -- John 17:1,3; 2 Corinthians 11:31; Ephesians 1:3.

I rest my case. (Please don't be lazy, take your time and read through. Plus, use your bible for the verses quoted/stated). Our stand and belief on this issue is not flimsy, but based on the truth as guided by God's Holy spirit.

Continued...

Usually, a singular name given to a person or thing is not given a translated meaning as a series of names, as has been done in Isaiah 9:6. The general trend is that a “name” such as this given to a human or a thing is describing attributes of God/Yahweh, and by giving such a name to a human or thing is not understood to designate the human or thing as being God/Yahweh.

For example, when Jacob called a certain altar by the name, El-Elohe-Israel (Genesis 33:20), this could also be read as a series of "names", as most do in reading Isaiah 9:5, giving it the meaning: “God, The God, Israel.” Applying the same logic that most apply to Isaiah 9:6, we could then proclaim that this altar is God. In reality, such a "name" is meant to be understood as a sentence speaking of the God of Israel.

Therefore, we should realize that he was not saying that the altar was “God,” or that the altar was “the God,” nor that the altar was Israel, but instead that the name of the altar was meant to say something about Jacob’s (Israel’s) God. Thus, this name is usually given a meaning something like: “God is the God of Israel,” or probably more likely, the first EL should be understood with the general meaning of might, strength, power, etc., thus: “Powerful is the God of Israel.”

So what about Isaiah 9:6? Likewise, the singular name should be understood as a sentence describing the God of Messiah rather than as a series of names that are applied to the Anointed of Yahweh. Some editions of the JPS give this name the following meaning:

“Wonderful in counsel is God the Mighty, the everlasting Father, the Ruler (or Prince) of peace.”

From this perspective, this singular name that is given to Messiah would be describing the only Most High, Yahweh, the Father of Messiah, not the Messiah himself.

His Name Shall Be Called
Insight into the meaning of the "Name" (singular, not names) of the messiah in Isaiah chapter 9:6.

Isaiah 9:5 - For a child is born unto us, a son is given unto us; and the government is upon his shoulder; and his name (not names) is called Pele-joez-el-gibbor-Abi-ad-sar-shalom; - Jewish Publication Society translation. (This is Isaiah 9:6 in most translations)

"Isaiah 9:6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given; and the government shall be on his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
Isaiah 9:7 Of the increase of his government and of peace there shall be no end, on the throne of David, and on his kingdom, to establish it, and to uphold it with justice and with righteousness from henceforth even forever. The zeal of Yahweh of Hosts will perform this. -- World English Bible translation."

As we read it from the Jewish Publication Society's (JPS) rendering, we do not find any designation of Jesus as being "God". The JPS renders it via a transliteration of the "name." Most translations ignore that the verse is speaking a "name" (singular), and change the singular "name" to a series of names, with the evident design to make it appear that Jesus is being referrred to as "Mighty God" and "Everlasting Father", so that the idea that Jesus is Yahweh can then be read into this. If one recognizes this, then one can see how this argument is circular, saying, in effect, because we believe that this name is not really a singular name as it says it is, but rather a series of names that are applied to the Messiah, then we believe that since Jesus is called "Mighty God", then Jesus is Yahweh.

Jesus made a very emphatic statement of our dear and close relationship to him and to the Father when he said: "Whoever will do the will of my Father who is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister and mother." (Matthew 12:50) "Call no man Father on earth for one is your father: God, and all of you are brothers." (Matthew 23:9) And Paul assures us that "both he who sanctifies (Jesus) and they who are sanctified (the church) are all one, for which cause he is not ashamed to call them 'brothers.'" -- Hebrews 2:11.

But how are we to understand the words of Jesus at John 10:27,28: "My sheep hear my voice and I give them eternal life"? While it is Jesus who gives eternal life, Paul tells us that "God [Note that "God" used here has to be unipersonal, not tripersonal] has both raised up the Lord and will also raise up us by his own power." (1 Corinthians 6:14) Both statements are true, because the Father raises the dead through his Son, to whom the Father has given all this power, just as the unipersonal God of Jesus (Ephesians 1:3; 1 Peter 1:3), by means of Jesus, judges the world. -- Matthew 28:18; John 5:21-30; Isaiah 96:13; 98:9; Acts 17:31.

One last thought on the title "everlasting father." Trinitarians usually deny that Jesus is the Father. Such would make him his own father. Thus they would have us believe that there are three persons in one being called God. However, if this title should be applied to the Son as proof of the trinity doctrine, then Jesus would be the Father, and thus he would be his own Father. Therefore, by their own rules, this title, everlasting father, if applied to Jesus, could not be used to prove the trinity doctrine, for trinitarians usually deny that Jesus is the Father.

Additionally, since the Bible clearly tells us that the Father is the "only" true God, and then excludes Jesus because Jesus was sent by this only true God (John 17:1,3; John 3:16,17), the title "everlasting father" could certainly not be construed to say that Jesus is the Father.
Jesus (Yahshua) is the son of Yahweh, the anointed of Yahweh. He is not Yahweh - the God of Israel. Yawheh -- the God of Israel -- is the God and Father of Jesus. -- Psalm 2:7,8 [John 1:14; Hebrews 1:5];
Psalm 83:18 [Luke 1:32]; [John 5:43];
Isaiah 54:13 [John 6:45];
Matthew 5:48 [Leviticus 11:44; 19:2];
John 8:54 [Exodus 20:5; 23:19; Deuteronomy 4:31; 5:9; 6:4...and a host of other scriptures];
2 Samuel 7:8,11,12,14 [Psalm 132:11;
Isaiah 9:6,7; 23:5; Hebrews 1:5; Luke 1:32]; Deuteronomy 6:4 [John 17:1,3; 1 Corinthians 8:4-6; Acts 2:36];
Psalm 118:26 & Deuteronomy 18:19 [Matthew 21:9; 23:39; Mark 11:9,10; Luke 13:35; 19:38; John 12:13; John 5:4; 12:49,50; 14:10,24; Acts 3:23].

Meaning of Everlasting Father titled to Jesus Christ.[color=#000099][/color]
All the titles of Jesus in Isaiah 9:6 "shall be" given to him by his Father, Yahweh, just as Yahweh gives to the Son the throne of David. (Isaiah 9:7; Luke 1:32) The Psalmist writes prophetically of Messiah: "Instead of your fathers shall be thy children, whom thou mayest make princes in all the earth." (Psalm 45:17)

Thus these faithful forefathers of Jesus become his children, whom he appoints as princes in all the earth. (Isaiah 32:1)

The application of this is still future, when the forefathers of Jesus are raised from the dead back here on the earth, who then become "children" to Jesus.

The title of everlasting father in Isaiah 9:6 is not the same title or office of Yahweh as the God and Father of our Lord Jesus. Jesus is never called the Father of the church, the spirit-begotten sons of God, although he does refer to his followers at times as sons (children), that is, as children belonging to God, or to the light of God which was in himself as the image of God, which light was also to be reflected in his followers. -- Matthew 5:14,45; 10:24; Luke 6:35; 16:8; John 8:12; 9:5; 11:9; 12:35,36; 13:33; 2 Corinthians 4:4,6.

Jehovah is identified as the principal Savior, the only Source of deliverance. (Isa 43:11; 45:21) He was the Savior and Deliverer of Israel, time and again. (Ps 106:8, 10, 21; Isa 43:3; 45:15; Jer 14: He saved not only the nation but also individuals who served him. (2Sa 22:1-3) Often his salvation was through men raised up by him as saviors. (Ne 9:27) During the period of the Judges, these special saviors were divinely selected and empowered to deliver Israel from foreign oppression. (Jg 2:16; 3:9, 15) While the judge lived, he served to keep Israel in the right way, and this brought them relief from their enemies. (Jg 2:18) When Jesus was on earth, Jehovah was his Savior, supporting and strengthening him to maintain integrity through his strenuous trials.—Heb 5:7; Ps 28:8.Along with his role as Savior, Jehovah is also the “Repurchaser.” (Isa 49:26; 60:16)

In the past he redeemed his people Israel from captivity. In delivering Christians from sin’s bondage, he does the repurchasing through his Son Jesus Christ (1Jo 4:14), Jehovah’s provision for salvation, who is therefore exalted as “Chief Agent and Savior.” (Ac 5:31) Accordingly, Jesus Christ can rightly be called “our Savior,” even though he performs the salvation as the agent of Jehovah. (Tit 1:4; 2Pe 1:11) The name Jesus, given to God’s Son by angelic direction, means “Jehovah Is Salvation,” for, said the angel, “he will save his people from their sins.” (Mt 1:21; Lu 1:31). This name points out that Jehovah is the Source of salvation, accomplished through Jesus Christ.

“A great crowd” is shown at Revelation 7:9, 10 attributing salvation to God and to the Lamb.
The green highlights is a future occurrence ; yet it is clear that there is a distinction between God and Christ. This answers those who claim that Christ on earth was a man but in heaven he is God Almighty.

The ransom sacrifice is the basis for salvation, and as King and everlasting High Priest, Christ Jesus has the authority and power “to save completely those who are approaching God through him.” (Heb 7:23-25; Re 19:16) He is “a savior of this body,” the congregation of his anointed followers, and also of all who exercise faith in him.—Eph 5:23; 1Jo 4:14; Joh 3:16, 17.

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On the bright side, its colourful.

But seriously, its easier to clean up right now than when its dry.

They better hurry up and clean it up while the water remains

“Ye are my witnesses, saith Yahweh, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.” Isa 43:10 KJV
“For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Messiah Yeshua;” 1Tim 2:5 KJV

Simple and clear! Stop adding your false imaginations. You are not up for an academy award for the best liar.

OLAADEGBU:
Let me help you out of your misery. The verse you highlighted there (vs.28.) is not saying anything different from what what was said in 1 Corinthians 11:3 that we have dealt with earlier even though you guys failed to respond.

"But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God"

I have said this before but for emphasis let me reiterate that just as the man is not superior to the woman, God is not superior to Christ[/color] because they are of the same essence. Saying that I must let you know that there is divine order in the relative functions of the 3 Persons of the Trinity and[b] [color=#000099]it makes sense for God to ordain a divine order[/b] in the functions of the family, i.e. husband, wife, children.

You are wrong! Christ kept saying that what he does is not if his own will but the will of He that sent him. Why is it that God had to be the One to ordain the divine order?

Please johnw74 and hairyrapunzel, could you explain this verse for us to understand:
1st Corinthians 15 vs 24 - 28.

24 Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power.
25 For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet.
26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death.
27 For he “has put everything under his feet.”[c] Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ.
28 When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.

Kindly explain the entire verse with the bolded in mind.

Hairyrapunzel:
But there is a criteria for that divine nature.
Be sure about what you want to join

Their 607 bc date as the date Jerusalem was destroyed is wrong. historians and bible scholars say it is 587 bc therefore their 1914 date is questionable

Not bible scholars but secular historians. Both the bible and secular historians agree on the end date of Jewish captivity as 537 BCE in the 1st year of the reign of Cyrus. However, the bible says the Jews captivity shall last 70yrs (2 Chronicles 36:21, 22). If u take 70 yrs from 537 bce you'll arrive at 607 bce (count forward). Secular historians and archeologist were not so accurate (calculations on date of ascendancy of Babylonian kings were full of discrepancy compared to the modern way of dating ascendancy to a throne). I'll opt for the bible's record, since Daniel was an eye witness to these events.

And besides, the bible is inspired by God.

I don't know if it is starvation or barbarism that's our problem in "Black Africa" especially Nigeria.

We would have given that whale a "native name" and then eat the carcass.

which nature will Those in 2 Pet 1:4 Partook of ?[/quote]The answer is Divine or Godly nature.

Divine = of or from God (spiritual)
But if you use or say:
Godly then you may imply like mannered with God.

Question is, the subject "nature"

When we talk about nature we could also mean appearance, composition & or action or a combination of the three.

Please don't insult yourselves you are all Christians. Your understandings and faith levels maybe different but you all struggling for the same goal.

(I'm a student of JW's)

Let the correct thing be said.
Even before and during the civil war, Asaba was in the Midwest region. Never for once was it called a eastern town or city; although it us eastward from Lagos. So also is it westward from Enugu. The Igbo language thing is 90%, but location is mid west.

Its well with you Carl! May God be your strength and sustainer.

This story is untrue and fake! I reside in asaba and nothing of that sort ever happened. Asaba is a small town and a news such as that would spread as fast as wild fire in the town.

The story never happened!
It is fake!
I suspect it is generated by bloggers sympathetic to the Biafra cause.

Nonsense!

Niggers Area!
Thugs employed by the government!

Niger, Negro means Black
Black is synonymous with Negativity and Darkness.
Names have powerful effect that's why God changed the name Jacob (cunning one, deceitful, 419) to Israel.

This country should be called Luminatia or Luminaria;
The Area of Light and not Dark area (Niger-ia)

DanseMacabre:
Ok, but is it on record that her 'Nigeria' was just a politically correct term for 'nigger area', and not 'Niger area' as our history books would have us believe?

Niger which is what the longest River in Nigeria is called, is derived from the Latin word for black which is Niger (Spanish/Portuguese= negro). The suffix "ia" is also Latin for Area. In other words, "Niger-ia" means; The Area along the Niger River.

But to translate it word for word; it literally means Black or Dark Area (Niggers Area). And that's more or less the reason why everything dark and sinister is found here!

No lights (electricity)
Bad Roads
Bad leaders
Bad followers
Illiteracy abounds
Ritualistic killings
Corruption
Nepotism
Jungle/mob justice
Apathy to Civility
Wickedness in high and low places
Black hearted

We ought to change the name to lumeria or luminaria. Area of light or illumination.

TheCabal:
This is a joke right... you might as well quote wikipedia

What do you know? I guess u are tutored in history by the kids in "yesterdays" nairaland.