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Bigleaf1006:
Bros!! Beta oyel dey ur head. I said same when they posted Gandollar inspecting an isolation facility in Kano. Look where Kano dey now.

It's a game to this guys, playing politics and parochialism with human lives.

madridguy:
After that, let the scores start coming

You guys should stop this conspiracy stuff.
If you don't test, you will have zero cases but that doesn't mean the state is free
from the disease.

Rather than being cynical at every turn, you should advocate for the alternative so that
we can all pretend the disease doesn't exist and everyone should mingle as they feel like.
After all, not more than 5% of Nigeria's 200 million will die.

I am not defending anybody but just offering simple medical fact.

Trigalee:
I've been pondering about this question for sometime now... So I've decided to share the question here to view your opinions..

Why do Nigeria borrow money from the Chinese or go to recession while they can print as much naira notes to take care of things in the country.. Or do they need any special approval from any international body or govt before they can start printing notes..


Countries like the Chinese and USA prints so much money and borrow it to countries like Nigeria don't you think Nigeria can also do thesame


Please your opinions are welcome!

The bold is wrong.
The US doesn't really print money, it borrows money from citizens or other countries such as China and Saudi Arabia.
It also has the advantage of having its currency as the basis for most international trade.
Since international trade is done in dollars and other countries prefer the dollar, it appears that America is just printing money
as it like when it is actually going deeper into debt.

As to the Chinese, they aren't printing money primarily to borrow others, they even prefer to be paid in dollars themselves.
Then, how come they are lending money to others?
Because they have excess in savings courtesy of their productive economy and technology know-how that's worth trillions
of dollars. If you do your research, you will see that the majority of Chinese loans are not in terms of cash but tech expertise
such as building railway, roads and power plants. Thus, little money actually exchanges hands.

Nigeria actually prints money but not in excess of what it produces because the paper is useless without a backup.
To print freely, you either produce enough to trade with others or borrow from others to backup your new currency printing.
When Zimbabwe printed more money than its economic capability, its currency was destroyed.

Tolani0167:
He knows the family and root he is coming from. Wickedness in Africa is real

Shut up!

lekki1444:
listen here cretin, not all drugs are disinfectants. a drug for headache is not a disinfectant. a drug to slow the flow of menstrual blood is not a disinfectant. an internal disinfectant will be called an anti-pathogen not a drug. so that tells me you dont know what you are talking about. now could trump have come up with a better use of word considering he is the president ? of course because in coming up with the word he used he gave many people without common sense ( including yourself ) the wide margin to make speculations as to what he means

What an ignorant babble.
Now, I clearly understand your position given that you don't even know what a "drug" is.
I can't believe this.

Proletariat:
A certain GamalNasser on this forum claimed he never said those words, and went on some democrats are satanist propaganda and Obama is a Muslim conspiracy.

Yet, his lord and master, Trump, has now claimed his own words were not to be taken seriously.

So did Trump lie on himself, GamalNasser the zombie?

That one is an irredeemable Trump cultist.
Trump is his god.

lekki1444:
it wasnt sarcasm, however it wasnt literal either. he said it as an illustrative speech. like he is saying the way disinnfectant kills pathogens outside the body, they need something like that for inside the body. he didnt mean a literal disinfectant but he means an illustrative disinfectant created for insiide the body. which tells me humans have become stupid because they dont get illustrative speech

Stop worshiping Trump.
He meant a literal disinfectant.
If it was the other way, he won't ask them to test.
You cannot test something that has not been made yet.

Bluffly:
Truth is that it is sarcasm. Only intelligent people know when a sarcastic statement is made while the rest of the populace goes gaga

Only mad people think it is sarcasm.
He provided 2 options and said that they should be tested.
He even claimed that doctors agree to carry out the test.
But you are a Trump cultist, you can't be cured.

edoairways:
I knew he was except Americans are as dumb as some Nigerians who drank salty water during Ebola's era

You must be as dumb as Trump.

Research from BBC Monitoring shows there have been reports of arrests for spreading fake coronavirus news in India, Morocco, Thailand, Cambodia, Somalia, Ethiopia, Singapore, Botswana, Russia, South Africa - and Kenya.

Why is Nigeria not on this list?

It is always a scam to dumbasses until it hits them.

Fake news.

Good

Devops:
If you listened to the same briefing I listened to and concluded Trump said people should literally inject disinfectants into their body. Then you and your ilks are scum on the face of the earth. The Trump Dearrangement Syndrome is getting strong.

Despite the fact that Trump speaks with grade 4 level grammar, you still can't understand him.
SMH

shachris02:
Yes internally. How do you think UV light works for killing cancer cells in Phototherapy?

UV rays are injected into the body using light beams to kill off cancer cells.

Lies.
You don't know what phototherapy is.

blowjohn:
Fake news. He never said that. Go watch it.


Let's digress a bit. Important.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RexUJeWmzSE


They dont want people to use hydroxychloroquine because they are pushing a sinister agenda.
The video is from yesterday

You are sick.

NockMedia:
LOL I thought as much

Why not watch the video?
There were even direct quotes from him.
Don't let anyone mislead you.

Trump cultists are ready to shoot up the Coronavirus.
Just give them the address.

Okay

It wouldn't.

iSlayer2:



You're not smart at all. No problem.

What a dunce!
I suspected you are just like the rest parroting baseless conspiracies with no understanding
of the core issues.
I was right after all.

You are so lazy that you couldn't even read a short passage before linking to it
or you couldn't understand the simple language employed in there.
SMH.

North Korea is curing Coronavirus with guns to the head,
Trump wants to cure people with Detergents to the lungs.

iSlayer2:
I could give some explanation offhand but I'll direct you somewhere. They're saying something akin to what I would have.
https://fas.org/nuke/guide/usa/doctrine/dod/fm8-9/2ch1.htm

You linked to a political organization's website and the funny thing is that you didn't bother to read the content.


Here is their definition.

Biological Weapon. A biological weapon is an item of material which projects, disperses, or disseminates a biological agent; including arthropod vectors.

Biological Agent (BA). The NATO definition of a biological agent is: a microorganism (or a toxin derived from it) which causes disease in man, plants or animals or which causes the deterioration of material.

From further discussion on the site, it is clear that any disease that is infectious, virulent, and toxic can be potentially used as a biological weapon.

However, it makes zero sense to call something a biological weapon when you have no evidence of it being used as a weapon.

SIRTee15:
Are u Chinese...because u sound like one...
Every country should pursue what's best for it...not what's best for China....
America definitely isn't a saint but the article raise valid concerns.....

Does it matter who I am?
Or do we need an ID to comment on political issues?
The bold is the reason why the country has refused to progress.
You sound just like our clueless politicians saying nice things that people
wants to hear.
What does the bold means?
Please articulate your plans for Nigeria.
It is none of my business what US aims to do, but it must stop

Chinese predatory n exploitative practice is hurting the rest of the world.....
Chinese wouldn't open up it's economy, yet goes around buying up assets everywhere....

Another emotional and empty statement. Who are the rest of the world that is hurting?
What the hell does opening up economy means, do you think you can compete with any
productive economy?
What assets is the Chinese government buying up everywhere?
Please list them.

It is up to each country to set its rule according to its preferences.

Chinese keep claiming it's a developing economy (which is laughabe even to a toddler)...thereby getting special favours from WTO.....
Chinese will insist on technology transfer as a precondition to invest in china....but would write construction plan in Chinese letters, so that African engineers can't read or learn how to build infrastructures....
Trump methodology may be wrong but he's right to call out on China.....

What special favors does it receive from WTO?
I suppose Nigeria is also enjoying those special favors from alleged father Christmas WTO
but it seems the results are invisible

For most of Nigeria and many other Africa's countries existence, the west is the major contractor for various projects.
Where are the technological blueprints written in English or French?
Where are the giant African construction companies who learned from the English?
Or are the Anglophone companies exempted from technology transfer requirements?

Our top indigenous Chinese manufacturer, Innoson learned from "Chinese manuals".
He must have been blind to not see the advantage of partnering with the English.

Many governors, especially from South East are sponsoring people to China to learn about
manufacturing, according to you, they must be stupid to not know that the Chinese will hide things from them
while the Anglophones will give them the full expo.

African leaders can continue to sign away the destiny of the continent once again....
They won't open their eyes and use their brain to demand for favourable contracts....

Can you be more specific, list the bad contracts that African governments are signing
and why they are bad.

How does this sound?
"I am broke but I want to dictate the terms of the infrastructure I want you to build for me
using a loan I will take from you. I want all the benefits(aside from the infrastructure I will get).
Better agree or I will contract the other people who will charge me 5 times of the money I don't
have at a higher interest rate."

I wonder why smart men like you are not in charge so you can give us magical deals that even nations with
real power cannot push through.

What people like you never do is give us an ideal example of a favorable contract.
I supposed it is very difficult to face real issues but talking is cheap.

But they should know Chinese are unforgiven and they lack conscience....
Servitude in the hand Chinese always end in gory tales....
Ask people working in Chinese factories....

We haven't forgotten the saints with a conscience who bought and shipped millions of people for plantation works.
It took years of war and many violent riots before they stopped being "benevolent" to their servants.
They don't even see their countrymen as equal to this day. Who else can break this record?

As to people working in Chinese factories, there is nothing unique about their situation.
They are unskilled and expendable workers who are treated badly regardless of their nationality.
Iphone is being made in China because Apple can get away with many violations in China
and Chinese workers are more "obedient" than their western counterparts.
Same with Bangladesh and Vietnam with their sweatshops.
But the westerners with a conscience don't mind using these products and pretend
to "see no evil" in the horrible conditions those workers are placed.

Those good people today are still here bribing government officials and running our oil industry.
Yet, no one seems to care to challenge the master's hold because they are "good" masters who
must be pampered.

Trump

I am against lockdown because it is not really being enforced.
Only small business owners staff are bearing the burdens.
The lockdown should be lifted while interstate traveling should be strictly controlled but for essential goods.

Angelfrost:
Some of the scientists and developers of the vaccine are highly religious individuals... So, you really haven't said much.

It is horrendously fallacious to conclude that an innovative, scientific, and technology driven individual can't equally have religious inclinations... Or that a highly religious person can't have a passion for science.

It's all a question of boundaries... The nations you call non religious have more religions than Nigeria alone...

You apparently don't understand religion and science.
You are also conflating a scientists personal belief with the society enforcement
of religious doctrines.


"Highly religious" scientists will be too little and too few and we can predict that majority of them
will be below average. There is a clear difference between belief and religiosity.

Moreover, science works regardless of faith or lack of it, so a scientist being religious is irrelevant.

However, there is a wide difference between a religious society and a secular one that has scientists
who happen to be theists.

The first would respond with "It is not my portion and god is in control" in case of a new problem
and the other will ask "what are the causes and how do we stop it".

Religious society are correlated with poverty and poor education.
Even within a secular and advanced society, the most religious parts
are the poorest.
Look at the US for example, the bottom of the poverty table are filled
with highly religious states. It is not a coincidence.

Charleys:
What about a cure, why are people preaching about vaccines?

So you'll rather prefer to vaccinate 7 billion people rather than cure less than a million with coronavirus. Don't you think something is wrong.

Why don't you come up with a cure first?
We have had Influenza and HIV and many other virus diseases for years, yet you
brilliant theorists who know more than actual experts couldn't come up with a cure

Let those who know what they are doing focus on their job.

Dreal1247:
This is one of the reasons why I said that we should not rush into signing a bilateral agreements with China without first having a deep understanding of the contents.

How about the ones you have been signing with the non-Chinese for decades where are the results?

Empty rhetorics.

Bring out your plans and let us see who will support you.
The US is free to move manufacturing back to the US as long as they accept 2-3 times
price increase, insane subsidy, and heavier taxes which republicans have been fighting against
for years because it is against "capitalism".


It is funny how the so-called capitalists are stylishly blaming capitalism(free pricing) for their problems.
It will be funny to watch the so-called US capitalist economy gradually adopts socialist principles to fight economic war.
The US outcompetes other countries in Agriculture by subsidizing farmers but they don't
see problems with such.

The West’s response must extend much further — it will require a unified strategy among free nations to counter China’s trade predation and its corruption of our mutual security.

The idea of the "west" is dead. Trump buried it with isolationism.

If Mitt is counting on the EU, he has missed it. The idea of the European army is being taken seriously for
the first time in history because the US showed that they can't be trusted through Trump.

The powerhouse of the EU is the liberals who are largely pacifist and won't accept a racist policy.

Is it the same west that Trumps referred to as parasites and continually bully and mock?
Trump and the UK are currently locked in an economic battle over drugs because Trump thinks
they are cheating American companies. Even Canada is not left out.
No one trusts the US leadership again, we are back to a multipolar world.

Mobi47:
These Chinese doctors wants to deal with us, the way they are mutating and mixing up covid 19 with other disease especially in the USA. Nigeria's Govt biggest mistake is the invitation of Chinese doctors into Nigeria. That's our biggest mistake, don't ever trust the Chinese people. Every countries around the world is against China presently but our foolish govt with no direction, invited them. Our doctors were in charge of the situation prior to the arrival of the Chinese guys but now, our doctors don't even know what they are facing. This govt no get sense at all, see how Good luck Jonathan's govt dealt with Ebola in just 2-4 weeks.

Many Nigerian doctors have come out to say they have a cure, but our stupid govt has been ignoring this doctors claims, instead of working with them. Was this not how the GEJ govt allied with Nigerian doctors and came up with a cure for Ebola even when WHO and The US said we must not use the cure with discovered... but the GEJ govt used it anyways and cured everyone.

This stupid govt, instead of allying with doctors, make research and discover our own cure (we have the herbs and everything we need for a cure) they are busy following the suggested cure from the Chinese so called doctors who came with ulterior motives and also waiting for recommendations and vaccine from the so called WHO which has strictly been criticized for not revealing vital information on how to manage covid 19.

Now the virus is killing people anyhow in Nigeria and we now have over 900 cases. This govt is too weak and lacks direction....na only God go help us.

Waste of school fees.
You should have learned a trade.

iSlayer2:
I read it all.

This disease shows traits of a lab developed biological weapon.

Explain the traits of a biological weapon and list your sources.

kiyosaki1:
Previous work has also agreed that the virus fares better in cold and dry weather than it does in hot and humid conditions, and the lower rate of spread in southern hemisphere countries where it is early fall and still warm bear this out.
Australia, for example, has had just under 7,000 confirmed cases and 77 deaths — well below many northern hemisphere nations.

Those are speculations unless you can present a scientific
paper that supports your claim regarding different hemispheres.

Previous works are largely useless for a novel virus.
Of course, it has some similarities with other Coronavirus but it is still different.

"virus fares better in cold and dry weather" is no good news unless we know what fares better
mean for the actual spread of Sars-Cov-2, not some random virus. Are we talking about a 90%, 50% or 5%
drop?

How does one even compare a large country such as Australia with tiny Korea on just hemisphere
and weather?

When it is common knowledge that human interactions is the primary driver of the disease spread.
It is not an accident that Lagos has most cases. A big factor is the population density, if you spread
out the population of Lagos to a state like Bornu, it will make no sense to not relax the lockdown immediately.

The reasons are thought to include that respiratory droplets remain airborne for longer in colder weather, and that viruses degrade more quickly on hotter surfaces, because a protective layer of fat that envelops them dries out faster.

We do not know that the majority or even a significant infection occurs from droplets traveling around to infect people.

Viruses are very different from one another and some don't even have fat layer.
"Hotter surface" and "Quickly" are sales, not a scientific language, we need the actual temperature and time
it takes Sars Cov-2 to degrade on its own to make any meaningful inference.

Even if the guess is correct, it won't matter because people interact mostly in close spaces, offices, buses, markets
and the virus does not need to travel to infect another person.