₦airaland Forum

The worst place to be in is Nigeria. Right from the day the Gwom Adara Chiefdom was murdered in cold blood,I knew that's the beginning of the end for his Chiefdom. That traditional ruler was the backbone of his people who resolved never to cower to El Rufai's attempt at forcing them under an emirate. He was killed and Christians in Nigeria moved on as though nothing happened. Nigeria is an evil country. Repeatedly, the indigenes of Kajuru LAG have been under attack ever since and Christians have not demonstrated all over Nigeria. Soon they will be swallowed and another target spotted for the fulanis to conquer. Tufia!

garfield1:
Leave am sir.the north is more populous.there are several areas that are sparsely populated down south.remember that the north has 3 times the landsize of the south.so if you disperse the dense population of the south over small landmass into the landmass of the north,it will even out.
Look at lagos with the smallest landmass.carry their population to kano with a large landmass and see whether it wont be sparsely distributed.more people in the north and getting married to several women while more people down south are becoming monogamous.no one wants to rush into marriage.there are millions of camerounians and ghanaians down south.

Cameroonian and Ghanaians millions in Nigeria? Which cities do you find them? Speak of what you know my friend. The north doesn't have that population like you think the size of the land notwithstanding. If Igbos leave the north today, the population vacuum will be evident but not so down South. I speak out of simple logic and not emotion.

QuotaSystem:
So now Asari Dokubos open, clear and confident rubbishing and reminder of Igbos pre-colonial and present status as cowards and Ijaw slaves is him "waking up on the wrong side of the bed"?

Lool that nigga really knows what he is saying

We know where our problem is from and Asari is certainly not one. Lol at Igbos precolonial status. Igbos were never subservient to any group in history until the advent of the British. Various Igbo clans had different set ups with their neighbours. The Nsukka side with the Igala, the Aros with the Annangs/Ibibios, the Ikas and other Umuezechima clans with the Benins, Ndokis, Ikwerres, Echies etc with Ibanis, Kalabaris and Okrikas. That's how it goes. You know nothing about Southern Nigeria so focus on that which you know. Meanwhile, your time is running out hence you're apprehensive. Look at Sudan, that's the way your going soon.

Zzyy:
U also in jos?

Not at present. But I lived there sufficiently to describe Jos to a good degree of accuracy.

QuotaSystem:
Go and finish slugging it out with Asari Dokubo before you start beating your bony chest in my presence

Ordinary ijaw criminal call una cowards & slaves una no fit respond but it's the NORTH you think is your mate lol. Or you need the link to the video?

Go answer your Ijaw masters ka ji?

Lol. Asari woke up from the wrong side of the bed to babble as of recent. I don't have to waste my time on him. Igbos are so unique that you often become confused when you try to describe them. One thing is for sure, our die hard spirit is second to non. As for almajiris, your time is fast running out. Even your rulers know that hence the desperate preparation they are making. Sudan which is your role model has been divided despite how long it took. Same is applicable to Nigeria to your shame and despair.

kjhova:
Dear friend, actually, @fk001 is right and you are not quite correct. Careful review of history always helps to mitigate the risk of emotional reviews.

When the British descended on Africa, they already had experience from colonial domination in the Arab world, Eurasia, Polynesia and the Americas. They had formed a system of categorizing the natives they encounter in their continued colonial conquest.

Below are the simple items on the civilization scale which guide British opinion of their newly conquered peoples:

a) religion - a monotheist society is superior to a polytheist one.

b) government - a more centralized govt with multiple provinces is superior to a decentralized tribal system.

c) literacy - a society that has developed writing and schooling system is superior to one with no written language or educational methods.

d) international relations - a society with evidence of contact with the outside world is superior to one with only local existence.

e) military - a society which can project war on its neighbours is superior to one with limited or no capacity for projection.

In all 5 counts, the Hausa emirates with Fulani overlords ticked all boxes while no ethnic society in the south came anywhere near close. The Caliphate has Islam as official religion, run a central government based in Sokoto, has the Ajami writing script along with Arabic, conducted Hajj's to Mecca and Medina annually and have relations with Morocco, Egypt, Arabia and the Othoman world and was running its own petty colonial conquest already in the Niger basin before the British defeated them.

From the above, it is clear that the British deferred to the Hausa's not because they were considered stupid. On the contrary, the British regarded the Northerners as more civilized than the rest of us.

To add, the North was conquered eventually when Sokoto and Gobir fell in war around 1910 which is anywhere between 15 to 50 years after most of the South had been subjugated and fully pacified. We cannot say therefore, that the northerners submitted to the Brits.

If Nigeria will move forward, we must all shed the petty emotional fables we were told by our ignorant grandfolks and find a way to bond together as a people to move us forward.

Nigeria is all we got and may we not end up like Syria someday!

The first part of your write up was concise and plain. I have to agree with you on that. However, there was more to that which had to deal with why they came here in the first place- economy. It's on the record that the affairs of the north couldn't be run by how much she produced hence the need for amalgamation with the rich south to augment the deficit. You can't argue that. The dissimilarity notwithstanding as long as the British interest is served. This is the problem to us. Your emits had no option but to agree. They were always conscious of the north only and never about a fictitious country not until after the war. The british never wanted a broken Nigeria as that would end the stealing of the riches in the south. We know this too well. They equally saw a blight in your organization which was one devoid of proper administration -recipe for poverty. Today's Nigeria is exactly what they had in mind in choosing to relate with your emirs in the first place. How could people who worked directly with Southerners when administered Nigeria directly chose another to run her after they departed if something is not amiss? People should think!

QuotaSystem:
Nothing more to say...same old boring insults

The north cannot be messed with militarily by any other region...if e pain you wella jump into the lagoon

NEXT!

Lol. In your dreams. It's just a matter of time. Personally, the Hague can come after we've slugged it out. Lokaci yayi kusa!

mubeela:
And farming cassava 4 der Abacha

Lol. Abacha sweet o

fk001:
The North were never weak as of then, they were the only region that have their armies in an organized way.

Followed by the SW

The SE were decentralized fighting themselves, as we have read in chinua Achebe's books.


Do you know that there was little or no slave trade in Northern Nigeria when compared to the massive slave trade that was undergoing across the river Niger?

Slavery was even more instituted in the north than South and only ended grudgingly there in the 20th century. As for a standard army, yes the north hand something similar to that but not really a standard. Similar to what the Benin Empire had. No other groups had such forces not even the west like you said. On the eastern side, only the Aros had a similar army and it was because those warriors were hitherto raiding bands that ransacked small communities for slaves to sell. If sokoto controlled a standard army like you would want us to believe, they won't have fallen so easily as they fell. I had to research very well to come to this conclusion. Majority of the east had no standard army and So resorted to guerrilla warfare that frustrated the British. Churches did a lot of pacification to reign in the eastern groups.

Zzyy:
Hmmn born and bred here..... All what he said issa lie

The only incorrect thing he said there is concerning the snow. The rest are 100% correct. Maybe he assumed hails(ice blocks) to be snow. Jos can be very cold during winter(harmattan). I had from my Ngas guys that Pankshin is coldest. Never been there!

cj4humanity:
You forgot to mention 'Waste of Mind'

West of Mines you mean?

Bestlily:
Why is everyone saying the first picture no make sense? I need explanations.

It's simply because that pix doesn't belong to Jos. If it was Kano or Sokoto, that would have been ideal. No Jos woman does that business.

odehaj:
to me because it does not symbolize Jos. They are not everywhere in Jos you could be there for a year without seeing one. Pictures like mama Taminus, beautiful but was removed by Jang& the foremost rock makes more sense. You can’t be going to J town and miss this!

NTA Jos. Beautiful until the malo minions struck. What a nostalgic feeling!

okoroemeka:
I visited my cousin in Jos and he told me to observe the ladies very well ,if I can notice anything, well I did noticed that 90% have big boobs,I don't know of the weather or Gene is to blame,but to be a man in Jos will definitely be interesting.

Lol. I'm thinking that got to do with their meal, particularly the cereal based ones. I've noticed this trend among ethnic groups even outside Nigeria that feed on maize derived pudding.

soberdrunk:
They grow strawberries in Jos?

They sure do.

tommy589:
Got same thought on Mandela too

Mandela did what he had to do. He will always have my respect because he was very smart. I won't elaborate on this. The Red Indians of America had no option. The Maoris of New Zealand had no option same as the aborigines of Australia. Oba Ovoramwen of Benin stood to his fame despite the odds. Same goes to Jaja. They stood up for their lands.

garfield1:
You just destroyed the debate sir.no further comments.the only thing that should be debated is whether Nigeria is actually close to its alleged population which i clearly doubt.but clearly the north is more populous.just as both north and south rigs elections,both inflate census figures.

He destroyed nothing. Landmass doesn't count that much when population is discussed. Check the countries with the biggest landmass in Africa, they often have a smaller population. Having spent over two decades in the north, I can confidently say that their population is heavily rigged. The South is obviously more populous. It should be glaring to all when out of the three major tribes, two are domiciled in the South. This is why Ahmadu Hello demanded half of the seats in parliament before he will agree to an independent Nigeria. The north have always been more calculative on decisions for their own good while the south prefer to dance to the gallery.
For population distribution, hausaland which holds the highest population in northern Nigeria isn't more than 30million, no other ethnic group there comes close to 10 million. Their villages are mostly scanty. This is why they encourage heavy influx of Nigeriens into Nigeria to augment their shortage. You can see even Buhari's parley with Niger republic of recent. There are currently more than 6million Nigeriens in Nigeria. They are well known in the north as 'buzus'. There's also no how Kano can be more populous than Lagos( the melting pot of Nigeria). That was a lie taken too far that they won't repeat again in the next census.
The north definitely have a higher birth rate but so do they have a higher infant mortality rate too. Diseases are more prevalent there. Hiv/Aids rate of infection without proper records cannot be efficiently used to gauge to death rate.

JasonScoolari:
So police brutality is the best way to calm down the protesting students?

Show us the big picture Mr photographer.

Though condemnable, it's actually a vicious circle. What goes around comes around.

coolitempa:
The difference is that those people are not trying to abuse our cultural heritage. They are more respectful of their hosts way of life. Most westerners do not really care about the obvious fraud called Biafra in one way or the other...

Are we talking about those that killed Yorubas and burnt their houses in mile 12 or those that attacked your people right there in Ile Ife? You guys are hypocrites. See someone talking about cultural heritage. Have Igbos ever tried to stop your people from eating amala and gbegiri? Haven't we been paying your omoniles their survival money which you don't even demand from the northerners? Hausas can have a Sarki in Yorubaland but it's a taboo for Igbos to have Ezendigbo? Your double face nature is well known to all. Little wonder Hausas call you people 'munafukai'. Lol. Admit it, it's the envy of the Igbos that's troubling your likes.

Curlieweed:
Your post seems very honest and free from the sort of propaganda this sorts of topics usually attract. However, why do you think the Ndoki (being Ijaws) is far fetched?

I have been hearing this claim about Ndoki being Ijaw for a while now but anytime I talk to offline Ndokis I get conflicting responses. While some outrightly deny it pointing to some far off interaction with Ibanis, others say that they were actually Ijaws. Someone actually told me that a lot of older Ndokis were fluent in Ibani. This may be the case because I have met a lady that I initially thought was from Rivers State only to later find out she was actually Ndoki from Abia. She even had an Ijaw name.

It may also be that ethnic divisions was a lot more fluid in the past than it is at the present time. It could be that these groups we struggle to classify along these hard lines were made up of people with differing origins. It could be that Ndoki in the past simply identified as Ndoki and while speaking Igbo did not give a lot of importance to whether they were Igbo or not because that classification had very little political value as the larger Nigeria we see today didn't exist.

You're very correct. No one bothered about ethnicity those days. What matters most was survival and ease of business. This Ndoki connection to Bonny actually tells a lot. The Ndokis were business people who were able to connect so much with the Ibanis hence the acculturation. There's this masquerade found among both groups called Nwaotam. Till date that masquerade is still displayed in Bonny town. It's origin is from Ndoki. This clearly tells that Ndoki people were pure Igbos right from the onset. Opobo and Bonny has a dual identity. It's like that in many other regions of the world.

coolitempa:
Listen....the west is right to frown on the influx of ibos into their lands in such numbers. In every part of the world, the indigenous people always resent uncontrolled influx of foreigners into their lands. What do you think Brexit is all about In my humble opinion...yorubas have been tooooooooooooooo accommodating.

What about the influx of Hausas and Nigeriens in western Nigeria? Are they no foreigners too? Admit it! You just have a prejudice against Igbos who you hate to see succeeding. You best bet at keeping them away from your darling region is to support Biafra. After that, you can ban them from even getting visas to your new country. That will not be a problem.

SluttanSlayer:
KANU is a fraud .

Anything or anybody linked to Israel is a useful idiot .

KANU and Buhari are both working for the Jew as their main jobs is to instigate Igbo revolt and unleash a jihad response .

This is fact .

KANU was hired to provoke war on Igbo Christians and Buhari was installed by globalist Zionist Jews to unleash jihad on Christians in Nigeria .

This is what the Jews do - play both sides .

Lol. And you, who hired you? Who are you working for? JEWS?

coolitempa:
The right to keep ibos presence in our lands to a bare minimum for starters would help

What stops you from starting now? There's a level to which you can push a man. Nigeria is dead already. Lol. The airhead who carries home an ant infested wood is inviting the lizards to dinner.

tifany89:
You obviously dont leave your enclave . How some of you just sit in the comfort of your homes and just dish out lies as facts is sickening. How can u say its 6 hours from Edo to the nearest Igbo town when from Benin to Onitsha is 1hr 30 mins? You Yorubas should try n travel more honestly, it's part of education

Lol. Most of them just jump into Igbo threads even when they know next to nothing about the topic being treated. Meanwhile, Igboland has boundary with Biniland. Benin City to Onitcha is 1hr plus but at least one bini community has a boundary with one Igbo community.

Osagyefo98:
which correct history.

u should know ur own history first before telling us. ours.

Do u that God is really wonderful placing that long bridge between us.....

please we are igbos and not in anyway Edo or benins.


benins I know are from asaba down to agbor..

That's the true and valid history.

Demon on a mission. You have failed already. You can't do any further damage to Igbos. Crawl back to your hellhole.

funmijoyb:
You wanna tell me Edo doesnt share boundary with Kogi State? I bet you will travel 6hrs from Edo bf u get to d nearest Igbo town.
Edo has nothing in common with the igbos. I believe your igbo birth in Edo State.

Fummi, try and travel out of Oshogbo for once naa! 6hrs from Edo to Igboland? It doesn't even take a minute.

Ndokinmanmanu:
"AMINADOKIARI" I AM LOOKING FOR MY BROTHER:

Ndoki people trace their migration from the ancient Benin Kingdom. The people from records appear to have set out from Benin at the same time with Ibani ancestors but lost them on the way. The Ndoki came looking for the Ibani and some Ijaws at the river inquired of their mission. The response of the early Ndoki migrants was that they were searching for their brother. This in their original dialect means Aminadokiari oral tradition states that the Europeans found the word difficult to pronounce adulterated it to Ndoki. Till date, they are known as Ndoki people. Alagoa (1972: 178) corroborated this when he wrote thus:

The tradition suggest that they migrated north and east-wards from the Central Delta along with the ancestors of the Ibani to their present location where they were affected by Ibo cultural influences.
The early Ndoki migrants in search of their Ibani brother passed enroute of Imo River, an estuary of Bonny River (Rio Real) to their present location, settling first at Obunku. On the other hand Alagoa E. J. (1976.337) stated that:
"The Ibani (Bonnny) say their ancestor came from Central Delta through Ibo hinterland. After a period of sojoum in Ndoki territory, they came down the Imo River through Andoni country Coaster State ".
These two accounts of the migration of the Ndoki and Ibani suggest that the time was when both sojourned together.

Armoury Talbot (1967:160) affirmed thus:
"Indeed, it is now settled and well beyond argument that the people of Bonny came originally from
Ndoki ethnic group."

Ndoki is also situated in the tropical rain forest of Nigeria. It must be noted that the southern most part ofNdoki has mixed features of both rain forest and fresh water swamp (Nwabara 1983:10). Located in the tropics, the temperature is very high between 750F and 800F. Two known seasons can be identified, the rainy season which starts from April to October and the dry season which begins from late November and lasts till mid March.

Ndoki land covers about eighty square kilometers. The soil is very fertile with a rich plant and animal life. What is the economic implication of this geographical location? This we shall consider presently.

Culled from: Impact of Colonial Rule on ThePre-colonial Ndoki Economy (1840-960)

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Ndoki people are proudly Igbos. One of their sons was a former Senate President namely Adolfus Wabara. The politics of Rivers State is so dirty that a lot of make ups have to be used in public. The day oil will become of little influence is the day all those make ups will fade away. I've been to Ukwa East on two occasions and can boldly say that they have no identity problem. The relationship Igbo and Ijaw can be strengthened through groups that have shared history of both sides from time immemorial and this would be found among these sub groups. Ndoki, Bonny/Opobo, Kalabari and Okrika. These groups can help the Igbo and Ijaw find a unity that will see us free ourselves from the grip of the evil contraption. Let's stop having a dogfight while our main enemies feed fat from the resources. A word is enough for the wise.

Osagyefo98:
Osagyefo means Great...

I took the name to commemorate the life and times of Osagyefo Dr Kwame Nkrumah.

Who was able to help Ghana gain independence and free Ghana from the diabolical machinations of their erstwhile colonial master now turned neo colonizers..

So I took the lead to adopt that name and free igboland from the manipulations of non-igbos with tainted history who has for so long claim they are igbos with no historical backings...

Such cannot hold again.

You're a failure in all you do and will continue as such. Your plans in causing division among Igbos has failed already as your antics have been known. Igboland is sacrosanct and NO ONE can do any further damage in this age of information. So, crawl back to the dungeon from whence you emerged and take a nap of eternity.

ideynl1:
Why are you concerned over Igbo? I thought you're Anambra first before Igbo!

Please allow Igbos to talk. You always crawl out from your hole when Igbos are discussing yo cause division. Can't you mind your Anambra state since you're Anambra first? Allow people who see themselves as Igbos first to talk.

Mind your business

He's an impostor; a demon from the wastelands who's stock in trade is to sow dissension among UmuIgbo. Always ignore him whenever you see his comments.

einsteine:
What is the meaning of the following names in your mud language?

Esegbue.

Ikatule.

Iwogbue.

Ndowerie.

Ossai.

Awushi.

Abanumebo.

Aghanenu.

Ochiotu

These are Ukwuani names. Tell me what they mean.

Do you even have an "e (as in egg) sound in your language?

Pls, what's the meaning of Ossai? Nsukka people from Enugu state bear such names too. I've been trying to get it for a long time now.

nogragra:
Can you mix oil and water? ....then the question is 'Has Igbo and Ijaw been together or united before in history even now? All these retort are mere wishful thinking which will not hold waters because of Igbo greed for oil. They have never met before in history because greedy igbos does not know them for any wealth but as humble fishermen.

By their statements you'll know them. This character is certainly not an Ijaw man hence should not be entertained. Avoid him like you would someone with Ebola.

Naajjii:
Lol Kanu a pain in our neck? Are you not ashamed of yourselves to call such a person leader? Posting nudes video on the internet and you are defending him. Cant you people look for a responsible , matured leader.That wont run away and have a structure such that if he is no more someone else takes over until Biafra is realised? Just a cough by Operation Python Dance and the struggle seem to be over , now he is domewhere In Europe posting nudes. Nigerians were not wrong for rating you people the lowest ethnic group afterall. Iyamiri people

As for that route of trying to paint Nnamdi Kanu, forget it we are solidly behind him. All those thieving politicians from our region giving you false hope should not be taken seriously. Our voice is one and MNK echoes it loud enough.
We know who we are! Almajiris can't tell us who to make a leader. Today you are the scourge of the earth. As restless as a wild horse only that you're up to no good. The worst human indices presently in the world. Are you not ashamed. Listen I know about the north so much. Lived over two decades there so there's nothing you can tell me. Ritual is rife there too. Your alazais are majority ritualists. Your mallams are deep into charms and fetishes. Drug abuse is highest among you. I know so well about your people and region. When Nigeria breaks, we shall know who other countries will despise more. You bring nothing good to any area you go. Let me just pause for now.