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gst101: i was told white people dont go to church and dont know anything about God. I am suprised you know of a "Belly of a fish."

Who told you that. You do know it was white people that brought the church to africa.

gst101: OBL was thought to have been killed several times before the last account the US govt gave us.

And no, his body wasnt shown on any newspaper. What was shown was photoshoped. Nobody saw him lying Dead. We saw Gadaffi and not OBL

I never heard of osama being reported dead until this last mission, all so AQ menstioed his death and there is a new leader.

gst101: where is Osama Bin Laden's body?

in the belly of a fish

agaugust: please dont drag this thread backwards, i proved to @saengine on this forum june/july that south african valour frigate has no defense against multiple attack of nigerian NNS Aradu Otomat anti-ship missile.

please dont let me disgrace you here, Otomat missile is sea hugging and skimming at about 6 feet above the water surface, Umkhonto missile is NOT designed to stop anti-ahip missiles that skim water surface at about supersonic speed, Umkhonto can only stop air borne high or medium altitude missiles with slow speed like cruise missiles, Umkhonto missile is NOT a standard anti-missile missile, dont let me use my civilian uniform to disgrace your military uniform again here today



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Sorry but where do you get this bull. The umkhonto was built to stop sea skimmimg ASM, aircraft and any thing that flys. So please don't embatise your self.

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thank you very much....so all the claims your south african friends have been posting since some days ago that nigerian army underestimated its casualties in recent battles with boko haram, is also eqaully false, and a lie to be dismissed...nigeria too is unable to keep secret because their comrades will speak out in CONFIRMED and RELIABLE public sources/media...anything less than that is a big lie

nigerian army casualty figures remain fact and tru as published by army headquaters.

.[/quote]I really don't care about the numbers. And unless those that doubt the official death toll can produce evedence to back them up I will go with what the nigerian army said. 15NCOs 1Officer KIA 9 POWs WIA was not menstioned. That is the numbers I use untill more info comes to light. And just like I changed the numbers in the banguie battel facts were updated I will change what I beive here.


What may change my opion is.

Goverment(a members of the JTF is the best opstion) menstions a cover up.

The milltary admits they coverd it up

BH or the media can provided hard evediance

Famly members start to worry. But considring OPsec I doubt many are in contacted with freinds or famly so that will have to wait unitl there deployment is over or the state of emergaincy is lifted.

agaugust: where is Adolf Hitler's body and grave

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His remians are in russia(well the skull at least) so point is well pointless.

agaugust:
[size=16pt]50 south african soldiers k.illed by Seleka rebels....Truth Exposed[/size]



"Johannesburg - Would it be possible for the South African Defence Force (SANDF) to conceal the deaths of at least 23 more soldiers in last month’s battle with Seleka rebels in the Central African Republic (CAR) – and perhaps upwards of 37 more?

The government announced that 13 soldiers had died in the battle and 27 were wounded. It named the 13 dead and their bodies were publicly returned to South Africa to be honoured and buried today.

But the Seleka rebels have told local and international media they killed at least 36 soldiers in the fighting around the capital, Bangui, between March 22 and 24. And Radio France Internationale has quoted an anonymous source who claimed to have seen at least 50 body bags being loaded onto a SA Airforce C-130 Hercules cargo aircraft for transport back to South Africa on March 25, a day after the fighting ended."



http://www.iol.co.za/news/africa/seleka-rebels-dispute-death-toll-of-soldiers-1.1496538#.UjuZxcbOlPI




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This has been dissmised has a lie a long time ago. SA is unable to this a secruit because do you realy think there comrads will not speak out. And there is no punishment for revealing a conspiracy.

MiguelMi6: I agree with you guys.the more reason why I belive they have more to lose from taking actions.

The planed acstion would only effect goverment employes. Thus british tourist will still get free rain but the diplomat will need a visa.

gst101: Is it that other countries in Africa do not have a platform on which they can express themselves? Or is it that they do not have an internet culture?

I have looked everywhere to find a very active forum of other African countries where their nationals engage innational discuss but i cannot find any. Not even SA has what we have here in NL.

Just take a look around NL and you will come to see how active we are online. Just by being on this website, you can have a very good idea of what Naija is all about! The hotter the topic, the more topical that issue is to us in real life. By being on this forum, you can get an idea of how little informed, moderately informed and how very well informed Nigerians are on several issues. This is not the case with other African countries including SA.

You think this is the only forum. SAAF forum and the commints secstion of defence web are a lot better run and more integent than this. And if nigerians did not trash talk the SANDF I would never have foind this site.

There is all so a SA avsion fourm and a SA gun forum with a lot of poltical threads. So you did a rather poor search.

iterator25: pls elaborate

At no point did the acstion of the liberastion movements causses enough harm or dissorder to causes fear among the white people.

agaugust: dont compare south africa to america or other world powers that have many hundreds or thousands of jets and helicopters, they are too well defended...south africa is weak.

also, american weapons are more than they tell you, they get lots of new upgrades never published to the world.

try use south african Umkhonto missile on land if your warship now has tryes like Toyota Corolla to drive go fight a war in the cities...fool

A lot of SA wepaons tech are used by those powers.

Same with south africa. There are lots of things not made public, remember our defence industry advertices for a export market not the SANDF who show case abliety has required.

agaugust: nigerian navy Otomat long range anti-ship missiles : 40 units

south african navy Exocet anti-ship missiles : 17 units

source : SIPRI org.

FACT. GO BACK TO PREVIOUS PAGES OR SHUT UP, THIS TOPIC HAS BEEN TREATED IN MUCH DETAIL 2 MONTHS AGO

You all ways say SIPRI is not 100%

agaugust: south african military did NOT defeat ANC terrorists and the fact that ANC was bomibing south africa from the inside....makes it a real threat to national security....fact !!!!!


[size=16pt]how ANC terrorists k.illed 11 south african air force men inside their air force base at home [/size]


"On the afternoon of 20 May 1983, two African National Congress (ANC) cadres, Freddie Shangwe and Ezekial Maseko, drove to Church Street in Pretoria and parked their vehicle in close vicinity of the building which housed the South African Air Force (SAAF) headquarters. Their intention was to detonate explosives at 16h30, a time when many of the SAAF personnel who worked in the building would be exiting or waiting at a bus stop near the entrance of the building. For some unknown reason, the explosives were detonated prematurely at approximately 16h20. A huge explosion ensued, causing great loss of life and injury as well as extensive damage to property. The explosion was reported to have killed nineteen people of whom eleven were members of the SAAF and 217 were wounded."


http://www.sahistory.org.za/dated-event/car-bomb-explodes-outside-air-force-headquarters


[size=16pt]south african military FAILED to stop ANC k.illing their soldiers on home soil [/size]

https://www.johnmountford.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/UMKHONTO-WOMAN.jpg

Those attack were a rare and did littel to affect the regiem mutch the same has 9/11 did not destroy america.

agaugust: south african valour frigates have only 4 anti-ship missiles each....it wont take you anywhere, nigerian navy has 40 Otomat anti-ship missiles with longer range 80km-180km than all south african nvalour frigate Exocet missiles with range 70km.

NNS ARADU will sink a valour frigate from a distance....south africa loses

submarine will NOT win you any war, unless you fix tyres on it, drive it from underwater to land...then use it to capture a place where people live...or else keep ruling over fishes and crabs in deep oceans with your 'metal aquarium' called a submarine

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Sorry all photo evendince shows other facts. SA has not only 8 exocets each but has conducted test firings.

The ottomat is larger and easyer target than the excoet.

Your ships would not find us and will be easy targets to destroy.

Subs can control the sea.

agaugust: i defeated you with my source, be a man, admit it, then move on to next topic

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How? The truth revieled is your incopotance.

agaugust: even mighty american army kill ratio in somali rebels combat is about 10:1, no army in modern warfare has record of kill ratio 160:1 like south africa claims....south african army was only m.asturbating itself....thinking it was having s.ex

nigeria fought in jungle, south africa fought on open city streets...jungle warfare is the most dangerous in the world and britain ran away from japan's army in burma jungle world war II....lets see south african army enter congo jungle and face M23 rebels....nigeria did not use armoured vehicles inside a jungle...fool....you are a cook/chef in south african navy....no army drives armoured vehicles into a jungle located on a mountain top...fool

We achieved simlar results in angola so it really does not supprise me.

I posted source that showed detailed satlite imgergy of the battel focusing on the Y jucstion. That was not wide open city streets.

You had armourd vechlies, the forces in the north have cobra APC's if you did not use them that is just incopotance.

SA all ready fought in the DRC and did a good job.


No amout of bull from your mouth will save you.

agaugust: laugh so your teeth can drop out, south african army ran away from seleka rebels in bangui....boko haram ran away from nigerian army in borno to hide in mountains and jungles

nigerian army has killed over 4 of top boko haram commanders including Shekau the number one leader...south african army could not even kill the mosquitoes around Djatodia the leader of seleka rebels....keep laughing....let your teeth drop to the ground....south african army is under the the command and protection of Tanzanian army in Congo because the UN knows ran away from Seleka rebels, so a small Tanzania has to rule over you and your DENEL made heavily painted and polished weapons

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You are a fool who was caught out, no amout of spin socktor work will change this.

agaugust: only a foolish country like south africa will publish full details of its home made weapons ranges and all technical data on free public internet for its enemies to read and use against it. nigeria is not the fool, south africa is...i see all DENEL weapons limits and weaknesses on public internet...fools of soweto

the source clearly says the information you are hungry for is already secret/classified by nigeria, no government official will publish all nigerian Epe missile details on internet to satisfy 3 or 4 south african buffoons who are already having epilepsy in fear of nigerian made missiles being upgraded rapidly in all technical capabilities


south africa's only anti-aircraft missile is Starstreak and its maximum altitude/ceiling is ONLY 1km, a very bad imported missile that CANNOT defend south african army against and ordinary Mi-35 Hind helicopter flying at 2km altitude and killing all south african soldiers and amoured vehicles on the ground....South Africa has a very poor air defense...Britain sold you a police/anti-Rhino poacher level air defense weapon...FACT !!!!!

post the altitude/ceiling limit of your foolish velocity Starstreak missile with source, mine is below...ONLY 1km...foolish south african buffoons

Missile range: Minimum 1500m (1.5km), maximum 5500m (5.5km)
Flight time: 8 seconds
Guidance: Semi-automatic, line of sight, beam riding
Time into action: SP - less than 10 seconds to 10 minutes. LML - 2 minutes. Single missile - less than 10 seconds
Ceiling: 1000m (1km)
Missile speed: Mach 3

http://www.army.mod.uk/equipment/23273.aspx

so america, turky, germany, france, china, uk extra are all foolish only countries like north korea, iran, nigeria extra are smart? yes nigerian logic is just great.

only the detials were posted 3km in hight. that is a detail

so the umkhonto is a sandf SAM. And the starstreak can achieve 5km range and 1km in alltuided, so 4km range gives how much alltuide? the starstreak is a vshord and the umkhonto is a shord. VSHORD are small and can be used in confied spaces. of course has a Fool you dont under stand that.

Atouke: UK has a stranglehold on the economy of SA even after the separation, Thats why i doubt the resolve of SA officials to see this through

Pray do tell how they have a strange hold on oiur economy?

agaugust: what if nigerian army told a lie like south afriocan army and claim we killed over 250 boko haram ? or 850 boko haram to match the lies and propaganda of @andrewza ? will anybody be able to disprove the nigerian army claim ? which journalist was with both sides in the jungle war ?

nigeria does not lie with kill ratio, no country, not even america in vietnam war or somali rebels war was able to achieve that extremely exaggerated south african lie of killing 250 to 850 seleka rebels...why does your own seleka figure have many versions ?

liar south africans .... and why did you RUN AWAY from seleka rebels ? nigerian army did NOT run away from boko haram, rather it is boko bous that ran away to hide in the jungle and mountains....if your soweto brains cannot intelligently judge who won a battle...then all your girlfriends will soon be mine for a nice time !

But the nigerian milltary put the numbers at 150. The SANDF did not once menstion seleka losses. Other sources including seleka were used to get to 800.


Fact is that you sufferd has many losses has us, killed less rebels, did in in your home, had APCs and other vechiels, had great numbers and yet you still got those losses. Now imgiane those same nigerian solders, but only 200 of them with zero support, vechiles or any thing.

Fact is that the fools jumped the gun. Now you got mud in your face.

agaugust: go back to pages 280 of this thread....4 new stealth warships are under construction for nigerian navy to arrive from next year...south africa too has only 4 new stealth warships...so what is the difference ?

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The difrence is OPV and frigate.

agaugust: .

[size=16pt] 2,000 south african soldiers killed on home soil by ANC black terrorists [/size]

http://www.trackingterrorism.org/group/umkhunto-we-sizwe-mk

http://www.historytoday.com/gary-baines/south-africa%E2%80%99s-forgotten-war

"However, conscription caused considerable political ‘fallout’ as the number of SADF casualties grew. The number of those killed while on active duty in defence of the Republic of South Africa remains unclear, but it is thought to be at least 2,000. Nonetheless, from the mid-1980s the Border War was still regarded by the majority of conscripts (and their families) as a necessary commitment to ensure the continuation of white power and privilege. Occasionally, conscripts defied the system and joined oppositional organisations such as the End Conscription Campaign (ECC) and in rare instances national servicemen went into exile to join the ranks of the armed wings of the African National Congress (ANC) or Pan-Africanist Congress (PAC).

If one person’s ‘terrorist’ is another’s ‘freedom fighter’, then the white minority’s Border War was the black majority’s ‘liberation struggle’. "



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-atwLcmEno

you do know the border war was the war in angola, all so that is 2000 deaths not all deaths were from combat and non were from fighting the ANC. not to menstion why dont you check the other guys losse.

you tring some really lame exusses now

agaugust: .

lets see south african army fight against its own citizens who are religious terrorists.....ANC rebels alone were bombing south africa on home soil and the military of south african never defeated ANC freedom fighters

islamic terrorists will turn the whole of south africa into a sleepless nation


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Taliban bomb kills Pakistani Army General, two other soldiers on home soil

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ISLAMABAD | Sun Sep 15, 2013 9:57am EDT

(Reuters) - A roadside bomb killed a Pakistani general and another officer on Sunday near the border with Afghanistan, the Pakistani army said, rare high-ranking casualties in Pakistan's war against militants.

Major General Sanaullah Khan, along with a lieutenant colonel and another soldier, were killed in the Upper Dir district after visiting an outpost near the border, the army said.

Taliban spokesman Shahidullah Shahid claimed responsibility for the bombing, which Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif said would not affect the fight against militants.

"Pakistan army has made substantial sacrifices to protect the nation against the menace of terrorism and such cowardly acts by terrorists cannot deter the morale of our armed forces," Sharif said in a statement.

The attack comes after weeks of discussions within Sharif's government about whether to pursue peace talks with the Pakistani Taliban, who are separate from Afghanistan's Taliban, although allied with them.

Last week, major political parties held a conference on the issue and agreed that talks should be pursued.

But it was not clear when talks might begin, who might take part or if they would be held under any conditions.

The killing of Khan and his colleagues would likely make it more difficult for the government to enter negotiations.

The Pakistani Taliban, an umbrella group of different factions, have said they would have their own meeting to decide whether to negotiate with the government. Analysts said it might be difficult for them to reach an agreement.

Taliban spokesman Shahid said the attacks would continue while the militants decided if the government's offer was genuine.

"If we find them serious we can talk, otherwise we will continue our attacks," he said.

The Taliban said last year that they would only consider talks if the government imposed strict Islamic law and went to war with old enemy India.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/15/us-pakistan-violence-idUSBRE98E05E20130915

The actvties of liberastion movements in SA were never a threat. For the most part the cops handeld it the SADF only steped in a few times. The SA goverment regulay suppressed all opstion with no problem in SA.

Atouke: This will not happen UK owns SA.

we seprated from them in the 1960s

Ikengawo: wait, you mean they currently don't? wow.

we never used to need a visa to go to the UK they changed their law so now we want to change ours

iterator25: What's there to lie about I didn't read my claim off an online source (s) it's what I know... not all locations in south Africa enjoy 'constant' 24 hours electricity ..Yes I'm aware you generate over 40000 mw

your claim that witbank does not get power was a lie, it does but due to destrubstion problems had a black out, even 1st world countries get black outs

16 100 who cares they laughed at us for bangui so now i will laugh

chris365: yes i saw it and called it propaganda cos both sides claimed victory. so why should i believe a south african story?

i chose to believe a neutral source which proves you lost and withdrew from your offensive on cuito. a fact i didn't make up.

Ok so what points in the vedio do you think are lies. Please be specfic


What netraul source did you post? Wikpedia? You are fool then for A thinking wikpedia is a qulfied source and B thinking it is nuetrial.

chris365: mr man i didn't ask you to post SA propaganda. official reports confirmed that SADF advanced on cuito and planned to take the town but were made to retreat after the cubans stepped in. why do you think i keep saying you lost that war. your troops had almost retreated from the whole angolan region before the war ended. read the source i posted.

which SADF lost with their G6 wagon















so which battle or war did you win exactly

did you watch the vedioe at all

chris365: getting frustrated already? that's what you get for talking like a goat

you helped UNITA to stop an offensive doesn't mean you won a battle. simply because FPLA didn't attack to fight SANDF. SADF showed up when UNITA was almost defeated till SADF assisted them to repel the attack. but the main battle was your offensive on cuito which cuba crushed and SADF retreated and resumed firing their G6 from afar till the war ended. history has it. you won nothing against the cubans

A major battle ensued and Angola, fearing a defeat, requested help from Cuba. With Cuban reinforcements, Cuito was held and the South African advance ended after six unsuccessful attempts to overcome the FAPLA-Cuban defences between 13 January and 23 March 1988. The SADF withdrew but continued to shell Cuito from a distance.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cuito_Cuanavale

i'll continue to tell you that until your military wins any battle or war with the G6, you are not allowed to spew trash

It was never the goal of SA to capture the town but to stop the cuban-FAPLA advance, this was achieved and with the enemy suffering heavy losses. SA was all so able to close the airbase there down and force the enemy to keep a sizeable force there

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RefL01AipAU

chris365: a while back you rejected the fact that Nigeria was developing it's own missile, now you are crrying over just a little information that was released to ease our neighbors fears.

Admit it.... The news took you by surprise.

It's an ongoing project and they might have passed the 120km range cos they just tested another missile last week (i live close to epe so i always see the smoke traces passing through ajah when i jog early in the morning).

The 120km range was achieved early this year.

And get this straight mr chef.. Altitude is different from length. The length a missile can go is different from the height it can attain. The length is more important.

Or do you need tutorial for it?

Sorry you not developing any missiels or if you are it is still baby steps. Right now you littel rocket is not worth menstioning. Privat civlians have made better.


Did a nigerian genrail say that, or any body with inside infomastion. The only report so ar is 3kms. Wow a GI30 30mm can match it.

I wonder how a 3km range missiel will make nigeria somthing speciol.

I mean that shorter than the ingwene from the 1980s. All so no menstion is made of a payload, speed or any thing. Right now all we know is that a misseil flew 3km straight up and yet the fools here are going on like nigeria invinted a working railgun.