₦airaland Forum

Ppogbae:
No South Africa? I'm quite shocked. I thought they were powerhouses in this sport?

i think they was a last minute withdrawal from the southy.

PDPGuy:
I’m shocked too. But I think South Africa may not have brought their ‘A’ team to Accra because they deem the African Games as a B-list competition

South Africa withdrew from the tournament at the last minute not sure of their reason.

Goke7:
Sports is still seen as a social service in Nigeria and not a business. It's the same unpatriotic Nigerians that are holding the league to ransom in the colours of govt officials and they won't let go because of their interests. Until there is a common consensus that govt should hand off critical sectors like sports, aviation, and other sectors that will encourage private sector participation nothing will change. But for now, Nigerians are divided on the level of govt participation. The entertainment sector is where it is cos govt is not involved which has encouraged massive private investments.

very well said my blood brother

Marjoribanks:
No country was built by politicians. None! USA was built by the toil and sweat of capitalists and drug Lords. The politicians did everything to destroy Edison, Ford, Carnegie etc. Even Schwab had to commit suicide due to the stock market crash caused by the shocking policies of the then politicians. Yet these individuals paid no mind to the politicians, they were willing to make the ultimate sacrifice for their nation and they did! The USA public school systems is one of the worst in the world with many of their populations living in trailers. If you know you know!
No European country will survive with a population of 150 million people- they would finish themselves with war!
One of the most corrupt human became a USA president and might win again in November. Britain has a PM that was not elected by its people. Putin... Relying on politicians to better your country is a lazy mindset. We have had and still have some of the best minds in the world head important ministries in our country. So why no changes? Cos individuals are not ready to sacrifice for their country. Simple! Complain, complain complain why contributing nothingness!!

Nigerians are one of the most hard working people in the world. I don't think anyone want politicians or the government to spoon feed them. All they are asking is the basic amenities. Yes I agree with you politicians don't build a country. Let's start with the npfl, tell the government/ politicians to hands-off from the league and how well the league will be run. Get the league working and see Nigeria club perform wonders. Your politician don't want to hand off. Go tell private owner who have at one time invested in the league or in one area of Nigeria economy let them tell you the bottleneck they encounter.

Goke7:
Bros, there's no good leader like that anywhere in the world o, don't be deceived by what you hear from other countries, na media projection of the desired perception of what they want others to see about their country. And I agree with you, our leaders have failed to project our good sides well and this is where we should pressure them more to do. No saint anywhere but we can do better, we have soccer players who are the envy of other nations, let's not allow disgruntled fellows to tell us who is crap or not. Cheers.

like bro for instance player wise we have far better talent than southy but when you look at Caf champions league, when last did Nigeria club perform above average, maybe 2004 enyimba or Heartland getting to the finals, why because our league is poorly run, then when someone comes out to say how poor Nigeria league is run we shut the person down 'don't talk down on your country's league, other league are the same it's just the media'. That's hypocrisy. Those at the top should do what is right, then you see citizen saying great things about the country. I hate when people talk about something wrong with the country and our only response is 'it happens everywhere ' and the naria is fallen like this? Giant of Africa. We should be a standard for other africa countries and to compare who's worst. Sorry for the long episode. ☺

Goke7:
You didn't read my post well, abuse and curse your leaders but don't hate on your country. Every African leader is also committing all the atrocities committed by our leaders, do you think their citizens are silent about this? No, but they do not hate their country. Let me give an example, you can say Tinubu is a goat and that may be true but to say Nigeria is not worth living is a different thing altogether as you're sending a wrong signal to the entire world about your country. And If you care to know even South Africa can't boast of regular electricity supply anymore but it's funny how it's Nigeria that is now a generator republic, even security-wise, banditry has been in SA before Nigeria.

And honestly, do you think with all the noise we make as citizens, those leaders will change? Football gives everyone joy why don't we use it to project the country and make everyone believe we truly rank among the best like we have done in Afrobeats that everyone wants to associate Nigeria with, this is what we need to do to project to all the foreign borns out there and they will be eager to represent the country despite how bad our economy and other issues are. That's the perspective am coming from.

Bro I get your point, but bro we can't project falsehood, our music is good and those musician put in the work, that's the results we are seeing. if these politicians/leaders wants a good image about Nigeria they should do what is right. And like I said earlier it's not what people say that's killing the image of the country, it's what we Nigerians do both in Nigeria and outside.

komekn:
Sometimes a bit cold ❄️ but never stressed, was in Sunderland last weekend for a premier League international U15 tournament.

In 10 days I'll be in somewhat Sunny Spain for one week ☀️for a football ⚽ tournament. And after that I will be in Nigeria for a few weeks.

Would you call that stressful.

And the next day to Qatar 🇶🇦 😂 then after that? . Stick to your Boro agent job to reduce stress or drink more water, it's telling all over you.

[quote author=komekn post=128936450][/quote]You look stressed. Do you feel stressed in your daily life 😂

komekn:
First of all the term white denotes nothing but crass ignorance.

Did you bother to substantiate, weigh up the evidence or from your blinded with prejudice small mind jump 🦘 like kangaroo without even looking.

There is automatic birth data capture in all of western and even in Eastern Europe to large extent.

This boy Yamin came into Barcelona from age 7, he was already documented from age 5 playing organised football.

You have exposed how shallow your thought processes are if they can even be called that.

Mr prejudice see you coming out with vein on your face because an European players age was under doubt. If we bring picture or publication of Osimhen or iheanacho at age 13, will you jump out like hungry tiger to defend it. Who brought up the age fraud story was it Africans or his fellow European, abi they are also not aware of the birth data capturing.

Ndi only Africans falsify their age, white have birth data base blah blah blah

Amedino99:
not really different if you think about it. Even worse Weah is a Liberian football legend, jay jay is a Nigerian football legend, weah is a ballon d'or winner, jay jay is NOT a ballon d'or winner. Weah was a PRESIDENT OF LIBERIA, okocha's highest admin position was the chairman of Delta state fa. When you consider how much influence weah has in Liberia, his own son not playing for his homeland should have been a big deal but it's not. The boateng, alcantara and pogba brothers all play for different countries. The nephew of our legend not playing for us wouldn't be that much of a deal in my opinion.

Uncle sef not even father. You are right iwobi would have rejected Nigeria and nothing will happen. Tammy rejected Nigeria even when the nff president is a family friend and even laid red carpet for him

charlesemeka85:
many folks here re like that

If u can remember certain monickers were mute and disappeared from this thread when the super eagles were having a smooth run until they lost in the finals they all resurfaced criticizing the players and Jpes tactical approach

They are the set of pple I named “Shebi I tell una” gang 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Their leader is thegoodjoe, even if the team went on to win the afcon he won’t be impressed since they didn’t win it with tiki taka style of football with Nwakali the main orchestrator in midfield 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

i don't see criticising a coach tactical approach as bad, it's normal for fans to criticise a coach approach towards a match when the team lose even sometimes when they win both club and country. That doesn't mean the fan is a hater or bad belle. I'm only fault those who never see anything good in the team.

Mujtahida:
It was real devastation. Rendered many young women widows, children orphans. Destroyed their hopes. Only God knows how many people's lives went south because of that tragic incidence.

You know the theories around it: that it was IBB that orchestrated it to prevent a coup. We used to relay such stories then. But looking back now, I doubt if it was IBB cos the number of soldiers cut across all arms of the armed forces but regardless of who planned it, the fact is that it was a monumental tragedy.

that theory uhmmm so many things surround it, jaguar jet was grounded because of same reason. Some young airmen (engineers) that was sent on course for the maintenance of that jet was frustrated out of the force.

Mujtahida:
Yes but can't remember her name

Remi Alege, use to act like a tomboy those days. Word in bold don't exist anymore

Mujtahida:
Olu and Bola Alege. They were ahead of me by one class. Olu is now a military officer. Their Dad was a guy man then oo.

Wow, you know the family very well they have a younger sister Remind.

Mujtahida:
Bongos Ikwe, Idoma from Benue State. The Ikwes are a large family. I was a classmate of his nephew Ada whose father a Squadron leader died in the ill-fated air accident that killed some military men in 1993.

memories, had a very close family who died in that plane crash Squadron leader Alege from kogi state from same NAF Base makurdi

TheGoodJoe:
Wicked tackles was because the defenders then could not defend. Today, defending is on another level.

Don't you think it was because of VAR defender reduced those wicked tackle and not necessarily because they can't defend.

TheGoodJoe:
Wicked tackles was because the defenders then could not defend. Today, defending is on another level.

double post

Marjoribanks:
Like who? You just keep attacking JP for no just cause.

Ekong said Paserio gave them identity! I would rather align with the players than hearsay! Iwobi was not outstanding today.
He scored a beauty, yes but he lost a lot of balls in vital area and missed some glorious chances.
Iwobi left Everton cos he wants to play in midfield. Fulham used him there for few games but decided to push him to the wings.
No serious coach would play Iwobi on the wings for Nigeria.
JP created a formation that would allow our best players thrive and they did get to the final. A team people like you did not give a chance.

Give JP his derseve dues!

The 1994 team was outplayed by the Ivorians in the semis and Zambia in the finals yet that same team is called the best Nigerian National team ever.

yes he had like two opportunity he should have strick the boy better but name one attacker that has never miss goal scoring chance before, even the best of the best. His goal was superb, beauty.

komekn:
I like specifically established facts that are used to make substantive comparison deductions. I don't like emotive led assumptions anchored ⚓ on personal preferences and perceptions.

The EPL is the best league in the world, the most physically taxing, fast and competitive as well as the most expensive overall.

The Portuguese league is rated number 7 in Europe.

Just because honestly means what exactly ❓

I will give you a proviso , proposition, players core objective is to maximise income, in the shortest possible time. In addition the best players get the best money 🤑.

What are you implying that Fulham a mid table team in the EPL is not better than Porto or vice versa. ❓

Let's start from the back Pepe highest paid player in Porto will struggle to get into a Championship team, that's a fact.

Zaidu will not get into Fulham fact. Marko Liverpool and Cardiff city reject in the here and now will not smell Fulham midfield. Galano who scored a winger goal attributed more to poor goal keeping is not better than Wilson ,Willian and or B. De Cordova-Reid.

These are the specifics . Finally ,none of these Fulham players will go to this so called major historical European club because Porto cannot afford them.

Below a catalogue salary comparison, it's currently €1.20 to £1 . When you want to make comparison. Pepe the highest paid Porto player is on €48k a week which is approx £40k .

if we compare the salary structure of Chelsea and madrid or even Barca, I believe Chelsea you will agree with me that Chelsea players earn higher. So we should conclude that Chelsea is a better club to Madrid.

komekn:
There seems to be for quite a few euphoria and celebrations that Porto beat Arsenal 1-0.

And therefore Porto is now better than Arsenal is a highly quality team ,and so are all of there players on the level of Arsenal or even better.

It's not so simplistic. During the 2022 FA Cup Championship club at the time, Nottingham forest beat Arsenal 1-0 and whipped Leicester City 4-1 and finally succumbed to Liverpool in hard fought contest, loosing 1-0.

Did that immediately put Nottingham forest on par with Arsenal and Leicester City.

Or we could talk about Leicester city that got beat by Newport county (League 2) 2-1 in the FA Cup.

Did that automatically elevate the lower teams players to top quality, no at all. Newport county still remains in the 4th tier of English League football.

What makes top level quality quality is CONSISTENCY ,the ability to perform at high level continuously.

Back to Porto , there is a lot of talk about my past opinion. Which was that Zaidu would not get into Championship Fulham at the time. That opinion remains the same when I said and now currently.

Zaudi will not smell Fulham, incidentally the same left backs they had them in the Championship are still with them now Antony Robinson.

I went on further to say that very few of the Porto players will get into Championship Fulham at that time. I compared the players at that time Mitrovic striker, Tosin CB ,etc and concluded Fulham were better.

That opinion expressed over three years ago remains the largely same today.

You go explain tire

jihday:
Westham 0 vs Arsenal 5
Burnley 0 vs Arsenal 5
Porto 1 vs Arsenal 0. Arsenal used same set of players in the 3 games but our international scout said Porto players are championship level

The guy sabi CAP

lordofstrings:
Chai,
Each time I open YouTube see highlights of our game eeh, the speed I dey take scroll comot for there
Being a fan no easy ooh
Na today I gather mind post here😂

I've refuse to rewatch that final both highlight or the full match. I can't pick any magical moment from the the Nigeria game so why should I put myself in such emotional trauma watching Ivory coast coming at us from 1st minutes to 80 something minute. Even when we try to fight back it was very disjointed, no organisation just looping the ball, the crosses wasn't even the best.

Mujtahida:
Bro, this loss pained me. Not for myself I swear cos like many long standing fans of the SE, I have experienced many losses none more painful than Afcon 2000.

This loss pained me for the players. I wanted them to win something. To taste what it feels like to play football and win. It pained me for the country cos people really needed that joy.

Personality all I can say to the players is thank you, thank you very much. It was one hell of a good ride.

After voting Emilokan? No joy anywhere. But I really wanted the players to win for themselves but for this hardship in Nigeria nah. They're not the cause.

Dsimmer:
Mostob

In the the final against Cote d'Ivoire, aribo in just 4 minutes made 10 passes which is almost half of Iwobi's 23 passes in 78 minutes while Onyeka made 12 passes in 86 minutes. Imagine if Aribo was on the pitch for longer, he would have at least taken control of the midfield away from Cote d'Ivoire midfield who were having a blast. As I previously stated, Aribo was fantastic as a playmaking CM in the last afcon. With him and Onyedika who's a holding midfielder, Nigeria could control the match at least.

Aribo fan boy.

Dsimmer:
I doubt. Did you see Aribo in the last afcon tournament? He was fantastic! Funny it was same Iwobi who spoilt the last afcon as well.

In Aribo first start against Guinea Bissau in this afcon, Guinea Bissau could only feed on little scrap while Nigeria controlled much of the midfield till Aribo left. Only thing was he wasn't audacious by creating much like he was in the last afcon but it was expected since it was his first start in the tournament however he controlled that midfield. In fact, It was only after Aribo left the pitch that Guinea started to get sniff at Nigeria goalpost and even scored a goal which was cancelled. As I said , if a team could control the midfield, headless chicken running wouldn't be needed much.

which Aribo control which midfield against GB, oga go watch that match again. A game which fan was calling for the introduction of iwobi. Neither iwobi nor Aribo can control the midfield same with iheanacho, but with the 3, iwobi is better.

andrewbaba44:
Bullying him and he had to delete all his pictures

Nigerians are terrible people

Nigerians always want to look for a scapegoat, he's not the cause of the team losing the finals, neither was he the cause of the team playing the way they did, if Aribo was there in place of iwoji, it will still be the same result if not worse.

Goke7:
there were tired legs in that game yesterday one analyst I listened to on Saturday said most of our starting 11 have played far more minutes than the Ivorians who perhaps did more rotation than us. Those can be minor differences from what we saw yesterday. Players like Bassey, Ajayi, and Aina played through the entire duration of all our matches.

we some forumites talked about bringing in fresh legs even is it's in the dying minute, many cried that you want to change a winning team, the players in the bench can not withstand the heat blah blah blah

Goke7:
How can players who have played in massive stadiums in Europe be nervous, which kind talk be that. Players who have played in wembley, Bernabeu, nou camp, San Siro, what can be more overwhelming than such atmospheres, make Paseiro talk something else jor.

If he says Fatigue, I can understand

How many has played in Afcon finals before against the host. Playing in nou camp, bernabeu etc is a different thing already

Goke7:
Let's all be honest and this is no bashing any body, he should make his way out of the team, there is no use. After over 70 caps is this what we will continue to get haba. People can make excuses about the formation, but you need more from your experienced players in the team. We can't continue to spoon-feed Iwobi, if he's not willing anymore he should be excused. That Ghanaian analyst picked him out as our weakest link teams could exploit and it has happened as he said it. If Angola knew better dem for pepper us more than they did.

iwobi should make way because of the Bokoharam football aka tournament football Nigeria played, oga iwobi is not the problem of this team, get good CM and Dlp and push iwobi forward. If we drop iwobi na Aribo we go use?