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flourishG: if you humble yourself and ask your questions on tithe i will respnd humbly . i teach tithe and many people are blessed beyond their thinking.

I don't conjure questions out of thin air. Teach your tithe, then i ask my questions. That's how we learn, abi?

I remember asking for a copy of God's instruction to Christians to tithe. That's still outstanding. Kindly provide and i will ask my questions.

Goshen360: @ Zikky,
You see me see trouble o. Abi Image123 don dey play tricks ni? Image123 no show up, na flourishG dey show up for dye-minutes,lolz.

Image123 has decided to spend his April tithe hiring a mercenary to come scatter the question and answer session very soon you go forget about Image123. The man go surface after this your new brother don scatter the thread to ensure nothing makes sense anymore

flourishG: Why are you showing carnality in your thinking? Are you saying a Christian should marry extra wife in order to prove his increase? Please ask your simple questions and get an answer.

I'll only discuss tithe with those that preach tithe, not an MOG wanna be ..but i can respond to your posts

flourishG: The crops and animals are increase and as long as you as a christian also increase, you must tithe unto the Lord.

LOL how do you 'increase' as a christian? lol tithe what? the extra height or fat edit: maybe it's the extra wife or children

flourishG: Why do you guys always call we MoGs in United States fraud?

flourishG: Listen my brother, there are many things being taught today that the exact word is not in the bible.

@ Pastor kun & Goshen

Don't know why you guys can't see lotteryG is just here for fun.

Maybe Image123 don go hire mercenary Brother Image123, if that's the case, e be like you don troway money be that o!

flourishG: Zikky and Nuclearboy,

So the fact that I asked people for help to crack lottery numbers means what?

If you are a pastor, you probably see the congregation as numbers maybe you'll be asking for help on how the crack the bank a/c numbers of rich members in the church

seriously, if you spend a significant portion of your time cracking complex numbers, what time do you really have for the bible

nuclearboy:

@FlourishG or LotteryG or whatever you call yourself

LOL

flourishG: Zikky,

You don't have to be insultive

My apologies.

flourishG: Are you sure you read the bible. The bible is God's instruction to mankind.

B-asic
I-nstruction
B-efore
L-eaving (the)
E-arth.

This is what the bible is all about.

I told you to provide or tender a copy of the instruction to tithe and you are telling me something else

flourishG: If you choose not to obey the instruction, no problem but don't call God a scam neither call us, MoGs scam. okay.

After reading other posts made by flourishG (on other threads), i can conclude you just a pretender. Was actually looking forward to discussing with a real MoG, sad

But that won't stop me from saying it one more time; tithe preaching MoGs are bunch of cro.oks

flourishG: Why do you call tithing a scam? Are you saying God is a scam for instructing his people to tithe?

Do you have a copy of this 'instruction'? you have to tender it here as 'exhibit 1' then i can answer your question

Failure to tender a copy of this instruction (copy & paste should suffice) is enough justification to conclude that tithing as preached by MoGs is one big scam it means (edit) there is no such instruction and you don't know what you are talking about.

Goshen360: ^
The questions were directed at Image. Or do you want me to direct your own questions to you also?

aaahh! nooo! me answer question? i said i was contemplating throwing in the towel on Image's behalf answer question ke!

flourishG: I teach God's truth as a MoG. Do you also believe tithe or tithing does not exist today?

Finally, an MoG to defend the tithing scam very good

@Goshen

e be like Image don throw in the towel o! 've been contemplating doing it on his behalf. You know Image123 is my good friend

Image123: Money in the form we know it today was not essential. Like i said, things have greatly changed today. We actually use phones and cars and have to go to school, everyone. People have changed careers, gone back to school in old age, changed continents just for money. All these were basically none existent just over a century ago. Money as we know it, is most vital now than it ever was.

Okay, we are having history class on NL . . .

Image123: what really is money? Money is a medium of exchange widely accepted as final payment. Money is anything generally accepted as final payment for goods and services. There was a time money was gold. In history, money has been silver, shekel, tobacco, crude oil, cattle, animal skin, rare feathers, essentially barter.

. . . No, it's economics or is it ......

please make up your mind Image123, what exactly are you trying to teach here You need to stay off that drug, i warned you

debosky: Such selective application of scripture shows a fundamental problem - the view that people must be coerced into giving, and would not give if they were not told the simple truth.

who cares? Pastors are fully aware that people will not give if they are told the very simple truth. just as long as the money keep coming, they are not bothered.

@Apostle Image, I liked the fact that you were bold enough to discuss the issue of tithe with Goshen (something the average tithe supporter will not do). But i think it's about time you throw in the towel. Please stop making a fool of youself

italo: Or did he say, nothing, just hope that God has chosen you?

Sometimes i wonder why our pastors spend so much resources in time, money e.t.c trying to win souls when the list have already been compiled They are not adding value to the process

Aparche: all that would have been required of us would be: to repent- believe in Jesus –accept him into our lives-be baptized & then THAT’S IT!

What do you mean by the word 'us'? you don't even know if your name is on God's list! Besides, you don't have say in your salvation, repenting and accepting Christ have been done (on your behalf).

Aparche: In fact, the devil wouldn’t even have been bothering himself fighting & opposing any Christian; because he will know that whoever is saved is lost to his kingdom forever.

I am not sure he is aware of this. Somebody should bring this fact to his attention

Image123: 5c). Today, Jesus still RECEIVETH tithes Hebrews 7v8.
"And here men that die receive tithes; but there HE RECEIVETH THEM, of whom it is witnessed that he liveth." (Hebrews 7:.

Image123: 5d). Hebrews 7.8 clearly says that Jesus receives tithes and is eligible to. God is not a man, neither is He Moses. He receiveth continually and continuously, or as in soccer parlance `tithe4life`.

Haba prophetic-apostle Image123, how can you say a thing like this you don fall my hand finally e be like the side-effect of that drug don dey kick in (the result of taking overdose to keep pace with Goshen )i don tell you say that drug dey make people to hallucinate you see the result naw

^^^^ Bros, take it easy with NL's only prophetic apostle na touch not NL's anointed

bigd4050: And your reasoning doesn't work throughout the context of Christianity.

It works in the 'context' of biblical events. every page turn

bigd4050: Your saying that because I don't know who God saves or why, that what I think cannot be true.

It is not because you don't know who god saves, i don't expect you know who God saves. If i apply your logic, i'll say you don't even know if you are saved, you can only assumed. Your interpretation (derived from about 3 or 4 verse in the bible) cannot be true because it explains nothing (in the bible).

bigd4050: If the same reasoning was applied to how God "came to exist", then just because we don't know how God exists...would mean that he doesn't really exist.

The same reasoning cannot be applied here. We are talking about interpretation of texts (letters), not what exist or don't exist.

bigd4050: Conclusion: God chooses those who will be conformed to Christ, which means he will choose who will or will not have faith or go to heaven.

. . .and what is the basis for selecting the lucky few that 'will have faith or go to heaven'? is the selection arbitrary? am sure you don't have a clue. The reason why your interpretation of the bible verse will not stand. It does not not support (cannot be used to interpret) any of the behaviors, actions or comments we find/read in the bible

Image123: Where is that list?

With God na

Image123: Is there supplementary list?

Brother Image, e be like you dey do your things through back door no 'mago-mago' for God matter If you don't make first batch, you should forget it. No 'man know man' or 'man know pastor' for this matter.

Image123: Have they seen that list? Who told them about that list?

i can't answer this bit. Ask them anytime they are online

Image123: Bigd's write up was poor and filled with error. God wants ALL to be saved, there are actually Bible verses that say that. How can he say that man cannot decide to have faith?

Well the 'koko' of what these guys are telling you is that God already prepared a list of those he want saved. The list was prepared even before your mother gave birth to you. So if you like go to church, speak in multiple languages, tithe and dance 'azonto', you are a 'goner' if your name is not on that list

Image123: 10). Is "Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come." (1 Corinthians 16:2) a type of proportional giving or not?

Don't know where Image is going with this, the idea of it being a type of proportional giving is something i don't understand. That said, i will add that as long as we don't give the whole of anything (i.e. we give part of), then we are giving a proportion (relative to whole). So i'll say 1 Corinthians 16:2 required the people to give in 'proportion' to how God has blessed them. Giving some of our spare time to assist in church is also proportionate giving (relative to the total time available). This approach could actually result in people giving more than a tenth. Image you must understand that relative proportion is not the same as fixed percentages (i.e. 10%), so i don't know what you want to achieve with this. Also note that proportionate giving is not based on set rules and actual proportion when measured in percentages vary from one person to another.

Image123: 1). Did Jesus Christ ever argue against tithes?
2). Did Jesus Christ ever tell some group of people to tithe?
3). Do you believe that there are different types of tithes in the Old Testament?
4). Do you believe that there was a tithe to be eaten by the giver at home and a DIFFERENT tithe to be given at the storehouse?
5). Did Apostle Paul observe temple rites?
6). Did Apostle Thomas observe temple rites?
7). Is tithe a form/type of giving?
8 ). Is anyone going to hell for giving tithes whether as money or crops today?
9). Were ALL God's workers sustained through tithes in the Old Testament?
10). Is "Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come." (1 Corinthians 16:2) a type of proportional giving or not?
Good luck guys, no side talk.

Apostle, you did not specify if the questions carry equal marks; which kind examiner you be I hope your students will not be asking for extra bandwidth sorry, i meant papers

bigd4050: God changes our hearts, our minds, helps us to see and understand. That is why if God wants you saved, you are saved.

Are you saying God wanted Adam & Eve to eat the forbidden fruit? you mean 'using' the serpent to trick dam & Eve was all part of a grand scheme to make them sin and get them out of the garden?

Goshen360: ^^^
Zikky, na wha for you. ...."touch not my anointed". Apostle Image123 is prophet-Apostle at the same time. Be careful.

Damn! Apostle Image123 have been anointed prophet i go try to be careful

Image123: bigd
How DO YOU LOSE a complete set of teeth if you've DONE NOTHING TO EARN IT?

Good question

@Apostle Image123

How you take tie one end of rope for ceiling, come put your neck for the other end i warned you about taking banned substances, you see the result now

Image123: i don't overdose na.

Okay. No wahala. Just be careful sha

Goshen360: Hey, G'morning Zikky and Image,

No controversy and no distraction sirs, . Face the panel of judges.

Sorry sir no more distractions from me

Image123: Holyine, specially prescribed.

Holyine i know dat drug very well naw dat drug has been banned whoever prescribed that drug no like you the drug dey make people to hallucinate