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Re: Tinubu Calls For The Abolition Of The Senate by Olaone1: 1:17pm On Sep 19, 2012 |
Iyalode gbogbo gbo. PDP is not bad if you ask me. At least they do conduct primaries. You have to be close to a guy on Bourdillon to contest as far as ACN is concerned. The process is archaic and biased. Yet they mouth off "progressive" every so often. |
Re: Tinubu Calls For The Abolition Of The Senate by Desola(f): 1:20pm On Sep 19, 2012 |
Ola one: Iyalode gbogbo gbo. Emi niyen o. Mo n kii yin o. |
Re: Tinubu Calls For The Abolition Of The Senate by thelastPope(m): 1:22pm On Sep 19, 2012 |
thelastPope: The gross hypocrisy of Tinubu's statement stinks to high heavens! |
Re: Tinubu Calls For The Abolition Of The Senate by Olaone1: 1:22pm On Sep 19, 2012 |
Desola:Iya ni yen. I love this comment you made on Page 0: so long as it makes you sleep at night at the thought of a beautiful arewa obirin is stalking you virtually, |
Re: Tinubu Calls For The Abolition Of The Senate by Desola(f): 1:26pm On Sep 19, 2012 |
shymexx: I still don't understand why we continue to force an American from of pseudo-democracy on ourselves... We're not Americans, and our histories and backgrounds are not relative - Nigeria is a tribal/ethnic based society, with different consciousness, based on ethnic lines... The Northerners are feudalists, Easterners are Capitalists, and South Westerners are more of a mix between Capitalists and Socialists... We're not a homogeneous country!! I agree with you partially, but for power to be dissolved, it would take an uprising, a revolution. You really didn't think that these same set of politicians would sit at a round table and agree to a SNC or abolishing the senate, did you? Tinubu cannot be distinguished as a progressive, come on! Isn't this the same man that was alleged to have reached a compromise with jonasatan to deliver the SW votes to the same pdp he is now pretending to be against? Think people, think. If we want change, we rise and not wait for all these vultures to do it for us. |
Re: Tinubu Calls For The Abolition Of The Senate by Dpeacemaker101: 1:26pm On Sep 19, 2012 |
I don't know why corrupt person like Tinubu should even be allowed to mount the podium to address Nigerians about corruption, and all of us sit here to OK his speech. If someone can be reasonable here to check thiefnubus' profile, you would see that corruption runs in this mans' blood. Now he has empowered his whole family and sponsored them into power,and he still has the face to look into peoples' face and deceive them. This man in question was a senator of this country, his wife is also a senator now, his daughter is also in the house of representative for Ekiti state, and the list of his family members he empowered still goes on to the local government level. Biko,what should that be called? If he is true to himself and his people, he should start by calling his wife back from the senate, cause for now she is jus a wake pass in the house. Pls, someone should talk about something else and leave this Tinubu and his shady dealings. |
Re: Tinubu Calls For The Abolition Of The Senate by Desola(f): 1:27pm On Sep 19, 2012 |
Ola one: Emi niyen o. Omo to pe tan, to dun tan to see mu yangan lawujo obirin. Okin ni mi laarin awon arewa obirin. |
Re: Tinubu Calls For The Abolition Of The Senate by Desola(f): 1:33pm On Sep 19, 2012 |
PointB: I'm sorry PointB but we are on opposite sides of the spectrum. That I can no longer stand Gbawe does not in any way, shape or form mean I am a signatory to your line of thought. Tinubu is fit to be a political leader and far better in my opinion than jonasatan but to be the leader of the Yorubas is what I totally oppose. The stark difference between him and Awo is that Awo was not only a Yoruba political leader, he was also the leader of the Yorubas who stood for integrity, loyalty, vision, progress and dignity. All these qualities, I find lacking in Tinubu but for rescuing the SW from the evil PDP party (although for his own gratification), I commend him and indebted to him. |
Re: Tinubu Calls For The Abolition Of The Senate by mkoabiola: 1:33pm On Sep 19, 2012 |
One way or d other tinubu benefited frm d national assenmbly cos he was an ex senator,his wife is also benefiting from d loot, Abegiiiiiiii,is too late. |
Re: Tinubu Calls For The Abolition Of The Senate by mkoabiola: 1:35pm On Sep 19, 2012 |
One way or d other tinubu benefited frm d national assenmbly cos he was an ex senator,his wife is also benefiting from d loot, Abegiiiiiiii,is too late. If thieftinubu is sincer his wife oluremi shud sponsor d bill or move d motion in d nationa assembly. |
Re: Tinubu Calls For The Abolition Of The Senate by Olaone1: 1:35pm On Sep 19, 2012 |
Desola:Kai! Hey you out there, name your price please. I want Seanet1 But, seriously, we can't continue with what we have right now in SW. We need primaries. Imagine, in Oyo State, Dapo Lam Adesina was chosen. Saheed Fijabi, whose dad is a close friend of K1, Tinubu's pal, was chosen. Saheed became an honourable just like that without being a politician. It is who you know, really. What is progressive about that? We aren't stupid. |
Re: Tinubu Calls For The Abolition Of The Senate by vislabraye(m): 1:38pm On Sep 19, 2012 |
Reducing the cost of governance is the most important thing. But abolishing the senate is not the best way to go about it. Coming from a man like Tinubu caution should be taken. I won't be surprise to learn that CAN members are more in the lower house. |
Re: Tinubu Calls For The Abolition Of The Senate by PEREP: 1:42pm On Sep 19, 2012 |
Lilprocess: National Leader of the Action Congress of Nigeria (ACN) Asiwaju Bola Tinubu yesterday called for the scrapping of the Senate, saying that it is costly to maintain and that it only replicates functions of the House of Representatives. If ACN wins a state, then the REC is okay but if it is PDP then the REC is fraudulent. We need to rise above the mentality of Mr Tinubu - loyalty is to the one that facilitate appointment and not to the Nigerian Nation. With this mentality, we will be voting for who will be DG of SEC, FIRS and other agencies of government very soon. Did Dora Akunyili acted the script of Baba Obasanjo or that of Nigerians when she was appointed the DG of NAFDAC? Let's preach patriotism and shed all these suspicious way of living. 1 Like |
Re: Tinubu Calls For The Abolition Of The Senate by Desola(f): 1:46pm On Sep 19, 2012 |
Ola one: Exactly! If we don't start rising against blatant slap such as that, we run the risk of being held by ransome by the ACN government. We won't be able to cry out because we would not want to be laughed at by others who are jealous that we have harmony within us. We need to start kicking against this now because once (if ever we do) move into true federalism where we have our own regional government, Tinubu would become uncontrollable. We must let them know that our votes brought them there and if they don't perform, our votes would get them out. Infact, I am now rooting for Mimiko to win the gubernatorial in Ondo. We can't all be one way traffic, even ACN needs opposition so long it isn't PDP. |
Re: Tinubu Calls For The Abolition Of The Senate by PEREP: 1:46pm On Sep 19, 2012 |
Lilprocess: National Leader of the Action Congress of Nigeria (ACN) Asiwaju Bola Tinubu yesterday called for the scrapping of the Senate, saying that it is costly to maintain and that it only replicates functions of the House of Representatives. The House of Representatives is the duplication because we have the state Assemblies whose sign offs are required for any change in the constitution which is pivotal to the running of the country. It is clear the opposition has taken over the current House of Representatives and as such dictate the tune. They act as if they are not part of Nigerian government (like imported legislatures who are not part of any Nigeria's problem as at today) |
Re: Tinubu Calls For The Abolition Of The Senate by buhak: 1:52pm On Sep 19, 2012 |
less work more pay |
Re: Tinubu Calls For The Abolition Of The Senate by ROCKSTAND1: 1:53pm On Sep 19, 2012 |
Desola: Very well articulated. There is hope for Nigeria! However, can we just be a little bit patient with GEJ? He has promised to surprise us by being best presido ever hasn't he? Its in our best interest to believe and support him now, abi? |
Re: Tinubu Calls For The Abolition Of The Senate by naturalwaves: 1:55pm On Sep 19, 2012 |
Desola:And Ow does his post make him a liar or a Sychophant? Y do I come across D.AFT persons on NL everyday? |
Re: Tinubu Calls For The Abolition Of The Senate by Demdem(m): 1:57pm On Sep 19, 2012 |
Desola: Knowing the "right" is one thing, doing it is another. If the structure at present doesnt give room for such, we wont be saying this. its just like the federal states going monthly to FG for allocation. of cos, it will be beautiful if states could be independent but it will be criminal and foolish for any state not to go to Abuja monthly for allocation because the constitution supports it 1 Like |
Re: Tinubu Calls For The Abolition Of The Senate by alkhwarizm: 2:07pm On Sep 19, 2012 |
gulfer: Taking a cue from Senegal......I say YES and lets push it because they are just feeding fat on the nation and doing practically nothing. Exactly. Tinubu is biting off of Senegal president Macky Sall and passing the idea off as his own. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-19407427 |
Re: Tinubu Calls For The Abolition Of The Senate by Demdem(m): 2:08pm On Sep 19, 2012 |
Sky Blue: i respect ur wonderful opinion and the solution you proffered but i dont agree its the best way out of our predicament. I also wouldn't want to thrash it out one by one at least for now. The foundation of the nation of ours is faulty and criminous and no amount of patching, window dressing, amendments etc that one does to this building of ours (our nation)can rescue the already battered building. Until we go back and remould the foundation, we are simply wasting our time and extending the evil days. Peace. |
Re: Tinubu Calls For The Abolition Of The Senate by kodewrita(m): 2:09pm On Sep 19, 2012 |
alkhwarizm: I am very ok with copying good ideas from anywhere. as long as they make sense. |
Re: Tinubu Calls For The Abolition Of The Senate by Desola(f): 2:10pm On Sep 19, 2012 |
naturalwaves: You are actually more daft by replying to a daft post. You're not any better than the person who made the "daft" comment. |
Re: Tinubu Calls For The Abolition Of The Senate by Demdem(m): 2:13pm On Sep 19, 2012 |
Cruz-gee: Nigeria is greater than Tinubu, his wife and in-laws. if the people want the senate scrapped, they are going home,simple. |
Re: Tinubu Calls For The Abolition Of The Senate by SkyBlue1: 2:32pm On Sep 19, 2012 |
Demdem: We are in agreement with regards to your second paragraph. Its just that I don't see any restructuring on those critical foundations happening without the people getting involved. And the Nigerian polity are notoriously known for their laziness to rise together for anything. So do we just throw hands up in resignation and stay stagnant without any improvement to quality of living at least? |
Re: Tinubu Calls For The Abolition Of The Senate by naturalwaves: 2:40pm On Sep 19, 2012 |
Desola:Just wen I was abt apologising going by d fact dat U said ur post was borne out of previous threads,I saw dat U've modified d post into this & U lost my respect.I only made d comment cos I kuldn't decipher d correlatn btw d daft post of urs and wat U quoted. Atleast U agree ur post was indeed daft. #Lobatan# Moreover,it is a very childish attitude 2 make posts based on past encounters wit someone.It would av done U no harm 2 ignore his post if U av nothing meaningful 2 say it.It's just a simple social etiquette.Infact,some persons wuld av suggested u av ur brain tested wit dat daft post of urs in relatn 2 wat u quoted. |
Re: Tinubu Calls For The Abolition Of The Senate by GARRIx7(m): 3:03pm On Sep 19, 2012 |
naturalwaves: |
Re: Tinubu Calls For The Abolition Of The Senate by Nobody: 3:12pm On Sep 19, 2012 |
Thoughtful! Brilliant!! This is what I expected of an opposition political party. Those are clear and clean facts. Having two Legislative Chambers is too expensive, inefficient, duplicity of functionality. INEC Chairman should be responsible for appointment of State IEC chairmen. Then to Tinubu, ACN members should be able to undergo transparent Primaries to elect who should represent them, not Tinubu anointing them. |
Re: Tinubu Calls For The Abolition Of The Senate by Desola(f): 3:16pm On Sep 19, 2012 |
naturalwaves: I had initially misread your post and thought you asked yourself a rhetorical question of whether you were daft. Upon re-reading, I realised that you had actually referred to me as daft hence my reply in kind. You deserved the edited reply. Now that you've prof-erred a lesson in etiquette, can you now keep it moving. Otherwise you'd be perpetrating the same nuisance you accused me of. Shall we let less daft people continue with the thread now? |
Re: Tinubu Calls For The Abolition Of The Senate by alkhwarizm: 3:22pm On Sep 19, 2012 |
kodewrita: I suppose you're right... |
Re: Tinubu Calls For The Abolition Of The Senate by prodam(m): 3:36pm On Sep 19, 2012 |
This saves me lot of energy in proving that ACN is the panacea to the numerous problem being faced by Nigeria..With advocacies like this, it is evident that ACN has good plans for Nigeria. Lets Join hand in stoping this '60years Plan'...#cordinator, MEG |
Re: Tinubu Calls For The Abolition Of The Senate by danjohn: 3:37pm On Sep 19, 2012 |
Desola: while it appears that Tinubu makes sense in his suggestions, he is in no position to talk really as not only is he a beneficiary of the rot in government, he is also a perpetrator. That he created a party different from that of the notorious evil party - PDP, does not avail him from the ills he has also committed. If truly he believes in fairness and credibility, he would have encouraged a far more qualified ACN member to represent Lagos state and not foist his wife whom had no recorded experience in political administration other than being a one time first lady of Lagos state. Admitedly, PDP is probably the worst political party that has ever happened to Nigeria, but ACN with its oligarchic tendencies could be another PDP waiting to happen. Madame Desola, a bicameral legislature leads to gridlock. In the senate, a state like Lagos with over 9 million people is represented by the same number of senators as a state like Bayelsa with less than 2 million people. That isn’t fair. When you say that this will make the legislature have absolute power, I beg to differ. You say this as if the house of reps is made up of only one man. The house of reps is made up of 360 people. Hence, you will still need a lot of consensus building in order to pass legislation. By the way, please do not compare Nigeria to the UK. Your reference to the House of Lords is a misplaced comparison. The House of Lord is an unelected body that has no power to pass legislation. The role of the House of Lords is to make sure that a law is constitutional before it is passed. In the United States and in Nigeria, this role is played by the Supreme Court. 1 Like |
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