Sky Blue:

It is quite interesting though, because Akpaibo's magic seems to have kicked into full gear in thi his second term. The political process itself might need modifications. One thing I hope we never copy from a country like America is the ammount of influence money has in politics. Hate them or love them, but that is one area where Britain's political system is better than America's

Desola:

A virtual Delilah whom you've never seen nor spoken or privately conversed with. You have time to respond to that rubbish? The man is feeling ostracised. You shouldn't even have dignified that rubbish with a response but as usual, you had to show that you are a man of class. Not one who only claims to be but one who truly is and who knows how to rise above immature, infantile outburst from a boy who claims not to demean women.

Abeg, Kats, forward march with your intellectual contributions ojare. We don't have time for people with chips on their shoulders. You are a cut above him.

kodewrita: Scrap Senate for redundancy reasons. Totally accepted.
Allow INEC chairman select state RECs. Completely accepted.
Possibility of this happening. Not likely at the moment.

Akanbi_edu: I was looking for katz response to my question on why he didn't join politics but just realized he edited the post. Anyway, the answer he gave me was that they told him point blank that he shouldn't. I would have pursued that but decided to drop it. but in the face of the below and failure of kats to at least put an effort in correcting this agbero that calls herself a lady, I am forced to revisit this.



See the problem here. I deliberately asked these two katsumoto and desola when they are joining politics for a reason. I know their type. Adete ni won. Won o le fun wara, but won le ba wara je. Its easier for them to pontificate here, in the comfort of their rooms and even declare themselves morally superior, holier, intellectual when everyday, people get killed maimed at the battle front taking all the risk.

Before you guys collect your online trophy, just know that Gbawe is far far above you two in understanding of the situation and has done more than you can ever achieve for the people you claim to love. Ka to soro, they say Yoruba this, Yoruba that, is yorubaland a country with its army?

Abegi oga Gbawe carry go jare, just know that when you wrestle with a pig, you expect stain. Just avoid personal issues. state your facts, if they accuse/abuse, just try as much as possible ignore like everybody is doing that Igbo bigot. They don't matter that much, although they think they do.

Its a political process that is open. Anybody can form his party and campaign for votes.

Demdem:

Akpabio seems to me the only exception from the whole lot u mentioned earlier as regards this zone. Not hearing pleasant news about chime for some time now but i have to be honest that i have not been there for a while now to confirm if this true or not.

Desola:

Brother, that is all that I hope for. For us to long for better and not be complacent and think that ACN has brought us to the promised land. ACN could be so much more but it is sad that some wants to force feed us into thinking that ACN has delivered even when they haven't even tipped the iceberg!

The ACN apologists need to give up harping on the evils of the PDP as a cover up for their mediocrity and get working. My fear is that they are being lackadasikal and I fear that with their current lack-lustre performance, the evil party might come from behind and steal the people's mandate. If what Akanbi edu has expressed earlier is anything to go by, then the region is not totally delivered if people's conscience hasn't been bought over by good works, transformation, direct impact. It shouldn't all be about recouping your investment, it shouldn't be about retaining power by all means and goodness knows that the disrespect of thinking voters are mere puppets who only needs to be thrown a bone to be controlled needs to stop. Yes, people might be hungry and yes, the first thing on their minds might be money to feed their families but when people see little changes that makes the community around them conducive, where basic amenities are no longer like gold, no amount of money would buy their votes. People do have conscience and ultimately, they don't want to be scrums of the earth who receive peanut. Inside them somewhere lies dignity and if you give them this, they would never take a million from PDP to buy their votes.

ACN needs to start working on the conscience of the people. Provide what is necessary, give people room to aspire and no amount would buy their votes. ACN would never have to worry about PDP because he people would know what is right.

Desola:

Eebu lo de po to bayi? Ki la gbe, ki le ju?

I forgive you because you have explicitly stated that you are an ACN member so I understand your hurt. You have every right to defend your party just as I have my right to defend my opinion.

I'm sure that you know that we don't all have to be politicians to know about or critique politics, right? If you are soldering for the right course, then by all means, soldier on but know that there are people at the sidelines watching you and we would talk.

Akii pohun m'agogo lenu. Eworisha!

p.s: what has Kats done to deserve the eebu? If you directed the insults at me alone, i'd understand seeing that Gbawe who shares the same party views with you feels offended by my comments but why rope Kats in with me? That he shares similar views on this thread is now a sin? Come on, Akanbi, you're better than this. Hurl the insults at me if you wish but leave Kats out.

Sky Blue:

Oshiomole is an interesting character though. To be honest I was quite suprised when I heard him speak during one of these BRACED whatever (video on youtube), he showed a good understanding of the problems facing the task of governance and the citizenry at large. And he isn't the first politician that has broken that illusion of 'they are all greedy pigs' either - there have been a good number of them. It just got me to thinking, so what does this man need to really suceed in his state and how can we give it to him? And to be honest although it is good to fight against people who don't have the people's interest at heart, although it is good to give constructive criticism where necessary, it is also good to see how we as citizens can work together with responsible governments to help them succeed. Because at the end of the day only a blind fool won't want government to succeed because if government's fail WE lose out. We need mmore cooperation to achieve shared goals. If a system continues producing rubbish, the problem is almost certainly the system.

Akanbi_edu: I was looking for katz response to my question on why he didn't join politics but just realized he edited the post. Anyway, the answer he gave me was that they told him point blank that he shouldn't. I would have pursued that but decided to drop it. but in the face of the below and failure of kats to at least put an effort in correcting this agbero that calls herself a lady, I am forced to revisit this.



See the problem here. I deliberately asked these two katsumoto and desola when they are joining politics for a reason. I know their type. Adete ni won. Won o le fun wara, but won le ba wara je. Its easier for them to pontificate here, in the comfort of their rooms and even declare themselves morally superior, holier, intellectual when everyday, people get killed maimed at the battle front taking all the risk.

Before you guys collect your online trophy, just know that Gbawe is far far above you two in understanding of the situation and has done more than you can ever achieve for the people you claim to love. Ka to soro, they say Yoruba this, Yoruba that, is yorubaland a country with its army?

Abegi oga Gbawe carry go jare, just know that when you wrestle with a pig, you expect stain. Just avoid personal issues. state your facts, if they accuse/abuse, just try as much as possible ignore like everybody is doing that Igbo bigot. They don't matter that much, although they think they do.

Its a political process that is open. Anybody can form his party and campaign for votes.

Akanbi_edu:

Wetin happen to you?

I am really dissapointed in kats for not correcting you on this line "You are a cut above him". That was real low for me. I know how a respectable gentleman is supposed to respond to that, but I guess.......

What was that about? How can people who sit by siddon dey look use such language on people who are actively trying to make a change?

pcicero:



Thank you jare, the Moremi of our time.

Even Reuben Abati referred to GEJ's critics as 'collective children of anger', so don't be deterred.
Some of us chose to be neutral, not because we are not interested in the political process, but because a certain Emperor determines who gets what and when and has zero tolerance for opposing views regardless of their pseudo-progressive posturings.


Let them continue hoodwinking the people, but the truth will come out at last.

Gbawe:

My brother, I thank you for your words here. Your writing always shows pragmatic wisdom. Beyond any doubt in my mind, speaking up as you do here marks you out as a decent person concerned with equity and fairplay.

I have been extremely disappointed at how the disgrace called Desola is encouraged to go around this forum like a Banshee from hell baiting and attacking others without provocation. She is even defended robustly when blatantly wrong by men who act as if gender is ever an excuse for siding with wrongdoing.

I thank you for you advise and bear it in mind also but I feel as well that cowardly bullies must be confronted exhaustively sooner or later. Continuing to ignore them is not really an option because cowards thrive on the perception that others are running scared.

Demdem:

The bulk of what the system produces today is miserable. Do u think the products of these system (who benefits massively from it) will be able and courageous to correct the ills presently within the system?
I for one dont think so. they will only try but cant succeed. Until the system is completely shut down, pull down and re-designed, we are simply extending the evil days.

Akanbi_edu:

See another loser. You are interested in something that is everybody's right and yet you come to complain that another man(interested party) is blocking your way. Siddon there mumu. They will come and handover power to you in your mother's bedroom. When are you guys going to get it that people fight for power, nobody gives it.

How about starting your own political arrangement even a pressure group and fight like everybody is doing. The problem is you want it, but you don't want to take the risk.

When Tinubu was running Lagos without federal allocations for so many years, where were you people? Now the man managed the situation and came out strong with a solution that saw Lagos increased Lagos IGR from mere 600million to 18billion, all you shout is 10%. But you dunces whould not ask, where was the money? You are not even systemic enough to know that as the system gets better, you may even get 10% to 5% or 0%. But you'd rather cut off your nose to spite your face.

Gbawe:

Eyan mi, what I see some doing is asking us to subscribe blindly and unintelligently to mindless witch hunt against one person who holds no Nigerian Political office.

I continue to ask the question yet I get not answer. What is the defined and accepted role of Tinubu?

It is only when some truly appreciates this that they will realise they are simply succumbing to mindless lynch-mob savagery. A few years ago, me, you and virtually every Yoruba man would have killed to have the leaders we have today who, beyond any doubt, represent some of the best we have to offer. Tinubu did his duty to get those people where they are now. He did not shun those with a mind of their own, to embrace unthinking cretins, as was routinely done in the past, to the detriment of Nigeria !!!

There is no better template to deliver success than to support the meritorious best the land has to offer. That is the role of Party Leaders. I.e provide the platform for achievers to gain office. Can anyone claim Tinubu has failed in this respects and especially when these leaders are performing but ignorance and the black man's aversion to seeking information means some deceitfully prefer to embrace vacuous and attention-seeking feudalism?

Desola:

What is the issue that pains you exactly, Gbawe? Are you gored that I commented that Amosun has done 'nada' to which I unequivocally maintain that I would not apologise for that you believe that I go around aimlessly attacking others without provocation or is it the two together?

For all the wrongdoings you accuse me of, I can list more from you so why not just leave it, eh? I have maintained that I would not apologise to you and you have concluded that I am the 'she devil' so we are all winners. Why continue to whine?

Let this issue rest now and let this thread continue.

Lobatan! Liar! Sycophant!

And Ow does his post make him a liar or a Sychophant? Y do I come across D.AFT persons on NL everyday?

You are actually more daft by replying to a daft post. You're not any better than the person who made the "daft" comment.

Gbawe:

Silly shrew, why don't you go to page one, confront your uncouth behaviour and apologize? Would that not be a decent way to let the issue "rest" than this your nauseating pretence and shameful attempt at playing victim?

You bring Amosun into this when you have already admitted that your uncouth rant against me on this thread was brought on by 'bad belle' you brought here from another thread.

Decent posters even chided you for it yet you rounded on them with the same uncouthness you are famous for. You are the only one "whining" because what I am doing here is deliberate. I am devoting time to make gutter trash like you understand you cannot go around with anti-social bestiality simply because some 'sad' men ,who need to get a life and stop cyber-eroticising, encourage you via celebrating your agbero behaviour that will see you only deemed an outcast in real life.

Apologize for your antics here or get lost. Silly shrew.

Gbawe:

Silly shrew, why don't you go to page one, confront your uncouth behaviour and apologize? Would that not be a decent way to let the issue "rest" than this your nauseating pretence and shameful attempt at playing victim?

You bring Amosun into this when you have already admitted that your uncouth rant against me on this thread was brought on by 'bad belle' you brought here from another thread.

Decent posters even chided you for it yet you rounded on them with the same uncouthness you are famous for. You are the only one "whining" because what I am doing here is deliberate. I am devoting time to make gutter trash like you understand you cannot go around with anti-social bestiality simply because some 'sad' men ,who need to get a life and stop cyber-eroticising, encourage you via celebrating your agbero behaviour that will see you only deemed an outcast in real life.

Apologize for your antics here or get lost. Silly shrew.

Gbawe:

Silly shrew, why don't you go to page one, confront your uncouth behaviour and apologize? Would that not be a decent way to let the issue "rest" than this your nauseating pretence and shameful attempt at playing victim?

You bring Amosun into this when you have already admitted that your uncouth rant against me on this thread was brought on by 'bad belle' you brought here from another thread.

Decent posters even chided you for it yet you rounded on them with the same uncouthness you are famous for. You are the only one "whining" because what I am doing here is deliberate. I am devoting time to make gutter trash like you understand you cannot go around with anti-social bestiality simply because some 'sad' men ,who need to get a life and stop cyber-eroticising, encourage you via celebrating your agbero behaviour that will see you only deemed an outcast in real life.

Apologize for your antics here or get lost. Silly shrew.

Desola:


For as long as you continue being haughty and carry on with a delusion of superiority around this forum, you will always have me around to bring you down a peg or two. I would devote even more time to make damn sure of it.

Yes, I attacked you based on our previous encounter on another thread and confessed to doing so to another poster. Now, you are asking me to apologise for exercising my right to comment as I please? If the moderators deemed the said comment unworthy or so crass and uncouth as you have mentioned, it wouldn't still be sitting pretty on this thread, would it? I see no reason to apologise to you and non is forthcoming. Not in this lifetime, anyway.

I see that you are trying to kill this thread with your childish, loser whining so carry on. I can see that other sensible posters are paying you no mind and are carrying on with the discussion so no harm done.

Gbawe, you don't get into the ring with me and win especially when you are trying your best to subjugate. If you want trouble, i'll give it to you double!

Katsumoto: Gbawe and Desola,

Can I appeal to you both to please sheath your swords?

O ri ido bale ni mo wa?

fagamite:

This is the cause of my life. It is a key reason that I come here to troll all these agbayas. It has never been merely a question of policy; it goes to the heart of my belief in a just and fair online forum. Now that you've seen the light, it is time you stop all the Katsumoto worship you seem to be doing. No one should be worshiped and none of theses fucktards deserve any respect.

Katsumoto: Gbawe and Desola,

Can I appeal to you both to please sheath your swords?

O ri ido bale ni mo wa?

Katsumoto: Gbawe and Desola,

Can I appeal to you both to please sheath your swords?

O ri ido bale ni mo wa?

Gbawe:

Dude, not good enough. You rightly identified where I wronged you here. What did I do if not apologize without reservation? Go to page one and view events. Then do what is not open to prevarication. You should simply ask her to apologize !!!!

You know who did wrong here !!! Why the blanket appeal? If people respect you for your intellect here, then that will ultimately be empty if they cannot discern a sense of consistent, dispassionate and neutral fair-play to go with that.

Ask her to apologize and move on. I have done no wrong here and I will deal with this silly shrew and her penchant for going around attacking everyone like a banshee from hell. There is a time and place for everything.

I don't need submissions from you that lets this uncouth cow off the hook. If you cannot apportion blame accordingly and in a fair manner, then please let issues carry on to wherever they will conclude.

HNosegbe: Well, the scrapping of the Senate requires an amendment to the constitution. A constitutional amendment requires the passage of BOTH houses of parliament, the Senate inclusive. And therein lies the problem. Which set of legislooters will pass a law to abolish their "green chamber", thereby removing their source of livelihood?

Good suggestion, but dead on arrival.

HNosegbe: Well, the scrapping of the Senate requires an amendment to the constitution. A constitutional amendment requires the passage of BOTH houses of parliament, the Senate inclusive. And therein lies the problem. Which set of legislooters will pass a law to abolish their "green chamber", thereby removing their source of livelihood?

Good suggestion, but dead on arrival.

Theshrewdboy: [color=#006600][/color]
4 Nigeria 2 move forward dis gangsters who parrade themselves as senators must b scrapped 2 avoid gangsters receivn national honours period

Akanbi_edu: I was looking for katz response to my question on why he didn't join politics but just realized he edited the post. Anyway, the answer he gave me was that they told him point blank that he shouldn't. I would have pursued that but decided to drop it. but in the face of the below and failure of kats to at least put an effort in correcting this agbero that calls herself a lady, I am forced to revisit this.



See the problem here. I deliberately asked these two katsumoto and desola when they are joining politics for a reason. I know their type. Adete ni won. Won o le fun wara, but won le ba wara je. Its easier for them to pontificate here, in the comfort of their rooms and even declare themselves morally superior, holier, intellectual when everyday, people get killed maimed at the battle front taking all the risk.

Before you guys collect your online trophy, just know that Gbawe is far far above you two in understanding of the situation and has done more than you can ever achieve for the people you claim to love. Ka to soro, they say Yoruba this, Yoruba that, is yorubaland a country with its army?

Abegi oga Gbawe carry go jare, just know that when you wrestle with a pig, you expect stain. Just avoid personal issues. state your facts, if they accuse/abuse, just try as much as possible ignore like everybody is doing that Igbo bigot. They don't matter that much, although they think they do.

Its a political process that is open. Anybody can form his party and campaign for votes.