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Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by italo: 10:12am On Dec 13, 2012 |
ijawkid: Flee from idolatry... That's what I'm telling you. Don't let Jesus come and meet you worshipping your parents and kneeling and praying to your Bible o. Stop this idolatry. How is it that you can give advice but cannot take it? Where did Jesus tell you to worship the Bible or even to read it? Flee from this idolatry. |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Ubenedictus(m): 10:26am On Dec 13, 2012 |
Boomark:just like u called joshua in d bible an idol worshipper abi? |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Ubenedictus(m): 10:28am On Dec 13, 2012 |
ijawkid: |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Ubenedictus(m): 10:29am On Dec 13, 2012 |
ijawkid:did u 4get sumtin? Scriptural proof! Where are they? |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Ubenedictus(m): 10:35am On Dec 13, 2012 |
Boomark:u are accusing sum1 and u are d first crying victim! Now that is childist and a bit of hypocrisy |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Ubenedictus(m): 10:40am On Dec 13, 2012 |
ijawkid:hahahahaha, mr italo don turn d table, d early part of thread ijawkid dey shout "flee" italo say "i no get any idol" now italo say "flee" ijawkid say "i dont worship it". D same accusation u threw has been thrown back to ya. |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by ijawkid(m): 10:51am On Dec 13, 2012 |
Ubenedictus: hahahahaha, mr italo don turn d table, d early part of thread ijawkid dey shout "flee" italo say "i no get any idol" now italo say "flee" ijawkid say "i dont worship it". D same accusation u threw has been thrown back to ya. Italo did nothing but spew rubbish...... He said ""reading the bible"" means worshipping the bible.....meaning Jesus who read from the book of the law also worshipped the bible....... You dey see how yeye your colleagues(italos) conclusion is??........ You both should go hide your heads in shame for engaging in arrant idolatry...... |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by ijawkid(m): 10:53am On Dec 13, 2012 |
italo: So I shouldn't read the scriptures anymore.?? Abi??.....Jesus read from Gods law,and I'm imitating him.........for you to say people who read the scriptures worship it shows how much of an olodo you have become... E be like too much idolatry dey pain your head.......you need to rest a bit......... |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by ijawkid(m): 10:55am On Dec 13, 2012 |
Ubenedictus: did u 4get sumtin? Scriptural proof! Where are they? Its all over the scriptures that we should flee from idolatry and paganism.....abi you want make I open scriptures for you again??.....eh?? |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by italo: 11:06am On Dec 13, 2012 |
ijawkid: My friend, all I'm telling you is to worship the almighty God alone. Don't bow to your parents and worship them. Don't have them pray for you, go to God directly. Don't kneel to your Bible and pray to it. It is not God. Flee from this idolatry! Ijawkid, don't say I didn't warn you. |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Ubenedictus(m): 1:42pm On Dec 13, 2012 |
ijawkid:Jesus didnt exact read d bible man! He read scriptures, no bible existed in his time! Oops!!! And Jesus didnt kneel and pray b4 a bible, so says italo |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Ubenedictus(m): 1:44pm On Dec 13, 2012 |
italo:yeah warn am well well from bibolatry and parenlatry. Hahaha. Una no go kill me jor! |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Boomark(m): 7:01pm On Dec 13, 2012 |
Ubenedictus: just like u called joshua in d bible an idol worshipper abi? That is too cheap to make me a scapegoat. Joshua lay on his face and never worshipped an idol. |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Boomark(m): 7:08pm On Dec 13, 2012 |
Ubenedictus: u are accusing sum1 and u are d first crying victim! Now that is childist and a bit of hypocrisy Don't you see italo is being childish by repeating "stop worshipping your bible" everywhere? Is it because you Guys don't read your bible then other wount read. Don't you know the apostles encouraged reading and meditating on the word of God written in the bible? |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by italo: 9:41pm On Dec 13, 2012 |
Boomark: The Apostles never even mentioned the word "Bible." They never knelt to it and prayed to it. Stop lying and stop idolatry. |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Ubenedictus(m): 9:30am On Dec 14, 2012 |
Boomark:d exact same way u have been screaming "stop worshipping...", i dont see d difference btw ur accusation and his! |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Ubenedictus(m): 9:33am On Dec 14, 2012 |
Boomark:hahaha, earlier u said joshua worshipped an idol now u are saying he didnt! So joshua lay on his face b4 a graven image but didnt worship abi? But if a catholic ever lay on his face b4 any picture or image, it will become idolatry? Do i smell hypocrisy? |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Boomark(m): 9:45am On Dec 14, 2012 |
italo: If i stop kneeling before the bible will you stop worshipping idol? Its a simple question to you, ubenedictus and other catholics. Let see those deluded by the quote below and would not want to repent because they believe a lie. 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12 New International Version (NIV) 9 The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with how Satan works. He will use all sorts of displays of power through signs and wonders that serve the lie, 10 and all the ways that wickedness deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 11 For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie 12 and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness. 3 Likes |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by italo: 12:48pm On Dec 14, 2012 |
Boomark: I don't worship idol, so whether you stop worshipping the Bible and your parents or not, it has no bearing on me and my salvation. Besides, you will have to first admit that you have been worshipping the Bible, your parents and your bed etc before you can tell me that you have stopped it. You can't stop doing what you were not doing. |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Boomark(m): 9:12am On Dec 15, 2012 |
italo: So if i first admit then you will second admit? Read and meditate on the bible quote above. Delusion has captured you people. Even satan can lie that he is not lying. Gods word made it clear. Do not mage image of any thing be it Mary, Jesus, lucifer etc and bow to it. You can't make images of people which aid you to worship God and tell God you made no image. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by italo: 3:45pm On Dec 15, 2012 |
Boomark: Get an English teacher. Boomark: Do not mage image of any thing be it Mary, Jesus, lucifer etc and bow to it. You can't make images of people which aid you to worship God and tell God you made no image. You can't worship your parents and tell God you worshipped no one else. |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Boomark(m): 11:18am On Dec 16, 2012 |
italo: Exodus 20:4-5 4 “You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. 5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, Acts 17:29-30 English Standard Version (©2001) Being then God’s offspring, we ought not to think that the divine being is like gold or silver or stone, an image formed by the art and imagination of man. catholics make supposed images of Christ and Mary. They kneel, bow and kiss it while making their prayers. These images are of things that are likely to be in heaven, earth or underneath. This is a clear disobedient to God according to exodus because He said "do not make them or bow to them". These images are made with stone, bronze etc and are made according to how men imagine the divine ones should look like. That is why the have varying images of the same person. A crystal clear disobedient to God. With this i can comfortably say that catholics worship idol. So tell me where it is written "do not worship your parents" and also teach us what it means to worship ones parents. I hope there will be no childish acts. Teach. |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Olabode05: 1:23pm On Dec 16, 2012 |
Exodus 25:18 'and you shall make two cherubim of gold; of hammered work you shall make them at the two ends of the mercy seat' and verse 22 says'and there i will meet with you and i will speak with you...' so from above you can see that God is not against making image of holy people like angels and saints and adoring him through them,because when you adore him through this holy people you are indeed adoring God the source of all holiness God is only against bowing down to trees,rocks,rivers etc 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Nobody: 6:59pm On Dec 16, 2012 |
italo: How does this analogy answered my questions now ...... How does it fit..... There re this catholic kids in my house, everyday by evening, the bow to the picture and carved images of mary ........ When did God asked us to be bowing 2 IMAGES .......? As for the name, jesus was called Emanuel,muslims call him ISA,God in English,Allah in Arabic,Chineke in Igbo,Oluwa in Yoruba,Oba ngiji in Hausa......... All is refering to same God...... How does varieties in name of God/jesus justified bowing down 2 ''asumed carved images of mary'' ....... Is that how Jesus did it like ''My holy mother pray 4 me'' did jesus pray/worship God that way ? |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Boomark(m): 7:54pm On Dec 16, 2012 |
Olabode05: Exodus 25:18 'and you shall make two cherubim of gold; of hammered work you shall make them at the two ends of the mercy seat' and verse 22 says'and there i will meet with you and i will speak with you...' so from above you can see that God is not against making image of holy people like angels and saints and adoring him through them,because when you adore him through this holy people you are indeed adoring God the source of all holiness Na wa o! Don't you see that God COMMANDED and SUPERVISED the making of the cherubs(ark), v9. Because if the israelites were left alone, lucifer who was a former Cherub would hijack it to get worship to himself by turning the imagination of the sculptor to himself. 2 Kings 18:4 New International Version (NIV) 4 He removed the high places, smashed the sacred stones and cut down the Asherah poles. He broke into pieces the bronze snake Moses had made, for up to that time the Israelites had been burning incense to it. (It was called Nehushtan) God commanded Moses to make the bronze snake for a purpose but when they start offering incense, it became an idol. Note that God commanded the making of it. With the same mindset you have now, they too think they are worshipping God through it. They worship idol pure. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by vickyO(f): 8:43pm On Dec 22, 2012 |
well, i understand that it is pretty hard for one take in the fact that what he or she believes is right is being declared wrong by another. Making images whatsoever for the sake of worship is absolutely wrong,christians are to worship in spirit and in truth (The Scriptures says so), not by using some images as mediums to reach out to God (which is nothing but a carnal and perverted way of worship). if we worship or bow to images, what then distinguishes Christianity from other religion? Bowing to images is a sin and will remain one whether y'all like it or not. |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Ubenedictus(m): 2:59am On Jan 14, 2013 |
vickyO: well, i understand that it is pretty hard for one take in the fact that what he or she believes is right is being declared wrong by another. Making images whatsoever for the sake of worship is absolutely wrong,christians are to worship in spirit and in truth (The Scriptures says so), not by using some images as mediums to reach out to God (which is nothing but a carnal and perverted way of worship). if we worship or bow to images, what then distinguishes Christianity from other religion? Bowing to images is a sin and will remain one whether y'all like it or not.u are entitled to ur opinion as i am to mine. Happy new year. |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Boomark(m): 5:40am On Jan 14, 2013 |
Boomark: ^^ Welcome back italo and ubenedictus. |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by FXKing2012(m): 7:00am On Jan 14, 2013 |
Bowing to any statue is demonic as shown in the holy Bible. Lev 26:1 - “You shall not make idols for yourselves or erect an image or pillar, and you shall not set up a figured stone in your land to bow down to it, for I am the Lord your God. Exodus 20:4-5 - You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. You shall not bow down to them or serve them, for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and the fourth generation of those who hate me. So desist from bowing down to statues cos it's demonic and leads to hell. Also praying to Mary is wrong: For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus (1 Tim. 2:5) |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Ubenedictus(m): 3:23am On Jan 16, 2013 |
FXKing2012: Bowing to any statue is demonic as shown in the holy Bible.seriously? u brought a dead goat to b flogged. dis whole tin was discussed last year |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Boomark(m): 8:17am On Jan 23, 2013 |
Ubenedictus: seriously? u brought a dead goat to b flogged. dis whole tin was discussed last year Are talking about a deluded goat? The truth is now clear to you. It will be a last year discussion to you if you have changed. But as for other catholics that are still into it, those that think they are seriously worshipping God, they need to see my explanations above and repent from that sin. |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Ubenedictus(m): 5:34pm On Jan 23, 2013 |
Boomark:interestingly d catechism of d cath church condemns idolatry, but not veneration. I dont practice idolatry, neva have, neva will. |
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