Logicboy03:



Hamza Tzortis, a well known muslim apologist made the claim that


1) Muhammad is the greatest man to ever live

2) That the iphone came because of islam (referring to the Arab golden age with algorithms and algebra)

3) Innocent before guilty in Western Courts came as a result of Islam/Muhammads teachings

Number one is not true. Muhammand wanted to be a leader of the Christians, and Jews...they rejected him. He went to the east, started his own religion, and told his followere to KILL the Christians and Jews. He was not a man of God...men of God do not kill. The book you follow now was written two hundred years after Muhammand died. The books of Jesus were all written within thirty years after Jesus died, by those who knew him.

When are you people going to learn about God?



The funny thing is that he never makes these claims in the non-muslim forums that he gets into. He only makes it on a muslim show



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iC4z90uGEVE

deols: 1. Forgiveness- u cant insult m and expect a pat on ur back. And I love Allah more than I do me. While I wld forgive you,my demeanor would definitely change. I always take things issue by issue and I bet I wld relate wv u in relat1n wv ur post. In essence I mean i definitely wont pretend all is well and good when you derive joy in abusing the things I hold in high esteen but I wont transfer the aggresion to unrelating scenarios.
So ur statement here can not be generalised. You may have had some bad experiences but u should not expect too good ones either considering ur mannerism.

2. Consistency- to say differently from what the qur'an says is what many Muslims undwrstand to be a sin and u wld only need to lie or change ur stance when you think what you hold is deficient. Many Muslims believe in he Quran being complete and perfect and so would never need tomake the changes thatqould bring about inconsistency.

3. Intolerance-you all need to stop judging all of us by maclatunji's actions. Not every1 agrees wv him and I wld av thought u understood that ystrdy when even sir.swetnecta supported my claim on that. Whatever issues u av wv d moderation shld be directed to d right quarters.

I have many muslim friend. I have read the quran, I know what is says. "Subdue the heathan, or KILL him. Your beliefe is not backed with truth(Proof.) It goes agaiinst Gods Laws. Muslims degrade Jesus, and his teachings...we do not kill you for that. You on the other hand, kill those who do not agree with you. You are not of God.

4. Intellectual capacity- you are so wrong on that. I dont frequent this section to av known enough 2 make a comparison but I wld av expected that you know religion doesnt determine that. I just wld more likely direct my health questions to d right section or other non religious ones to d appropriate fora. You would at least av sen Muslims have things to say in he politics foreign affairs and family sections. maybe u need to look outside of here.not evry1 is too keen on making every matter religious.

deols: 1. Forgiveness- u cant insult m and expect a pat on ur back. And I love Allah more than I do me. While I wld forgive you,my demeanor would definitely change. I always take things issue by issue and I bet I wld relate wv u in relat1n wv ur post. In essence I mean i definitely wont pretend all is well and good when you derive joy in abusing the things I hold in high esteen but I wont transfer the aggresion to unrelating scenarios.
So ur statement here can not be generalised. You may have had some bad experiences but u should not expect too good ones either considering ur mannerism.

deols:
2. Consistency- to say differently from what the qur'an says is what many Muslims undwrstand to be a sin and u wld only need to lie or change ur stance when you think what you hold is deficient. Many Muslims believe in he Quran being complete and perfect and so would never need tomake the changes thatqould bring about inconsistency.

deols:
3. Intolerance-you all need to stop judging all of us by maclatunji's actions. Not every1 agrees wv him and I wld av thought u understood that ystrdy when even sir.swetnecta supported my claim on that. Whatever issues u av wv d moderation shld be directed to d right quarters.

deols:
4. Intellectual capacity- you are so wrong on that. I dont frequent this section to av known enough 2 make a comparison but I wld av expected that you know religion doesnt determine that. I just wld more likely direct my health questions to d right section or other non religious ones to d appropriate fora. You would at least av sen Muslims have things to say in he politics foreign affairs and family sections. maybe u need to look outside of here.not evry1 is too keen on making every matter religious.

maclatunji: Awwwwwww, what a cute thread by my regular "banee". I am sure your ego has been well-massaged.

#LOL

maclatunji: Awwwwwww, what a cute thread by my regular "banee". I am sure your ego has been well-massaged.

#LOL

Reyginus: You're intellectually bankrupt. Go back to your sharia section please.

Reyginus: You're intellectually bankrupt. Go back to your sharia section please.

onetrack: Logicboy you have my full support. I am quite busy as of late in my real life but it's nice to see you continue to fight the good fight. Onward Atheist Soldiers!

Logicboy03:


By the way, how are you different from a terrorist (relating to the bold). You love Allah more than yourself? You would die for him?

But what happens when your Quran s inconsistent with modern science and facts?

Evolution? Secular societies being the most advanced and peaceful (much more than muslim countries)?

What happens when a kaffir tells you the truth?

lol....tyrants never leave as long as the people support them.

Still, it doesnt change the fact that two muslims trolled my thread and yet, I was banned for complaining. Did these two muslims feel any remorse? Even christians defended me when I got banned.

Still, it doesnt change the fact that when I complain about maclatunji, all you guys keep quiet unless it is on your threads. The worst is when they deny that the dont see any of my rants against Maclatunji

Still, it doesnt change the fact that you guys are happy with intolerance. How can one calmly accept the divide between the two sections?

Who is talking about health or politics? I am talking about deep philosophical topics that have to do with religion. Humanism? Morality? Evolution of religion? etc!


Where are these questions on the islamic section.

deols:

That I love Allah is d reason I ddnt join my mates when they started drinking in 2007.
It is d reason I go to the Muslim section of Nl to learn and add d little I know when the need arises instead of doing other things I find to be fun.
I could go on and on, but I'm not interested in sounding like a saint esp when i'm not

deols:
Sometimes, you sound confused. In the need to make a point even when there is none to make, you forget what your argument originally was. Were u talking science or differentiating Muslims from Christians?

deols:

You are having a problem with how the world works I guess. You wont bully me into taking a fight wv d mod only because u want that. I have limited time to spend here and Your course would naturally not even be the last on my mind since your interests aren't mine nor do I support what you do.
Since you wouldn't change ur stance no matter what, it can be concluded that you are stubborn, highly opinionated and a reason you prolly would more conveniently be an atheist.

deols:
I must have mentioned once to you something about preferences, goals, etc.
Not manny Muslims doubt what the Qur'an says about these things, bringing forth arguments on them would be unnecessary. We are more concerned about getting the tenets of Islam RIGHT!, something so obviously in dire need of attention.

Logicboy03:

So what is your point about drinking? Do you think Boko Haram drink alcohol? Alcohol has nothing to do with God or love


I couldnt care less what your reasons are for coming to the sialm section. Point is, forgive and forget. Why would you keep malice with a screen name because he or she isnt muslim and he/she mocked your god?

In the USA FEMA has built 385 Concentration camps, and five million coffins. Who do you think these are for when your big holy war starts?







You cant even follow the steps. jeez

The point was simple. Christians have ammended their stance and religion to meet modern standards and science- something that muslims never do. This is why christianity is accepted much more than Islam anywhere. Just look at atheist Japan- they dont believe in Jesus but they have church weddings because it is fun and nice. Which non-muslim will ever do a muslim wedding?




Who is asking you to fight Maclatunji? Why are you talking nonsense? My point is that you either keep quiet when peeps completely bash muslims together with their acceptance of Maclatunjis dictatorship or you tell the truth.


As for being stubborn and being highly opinionanted, it has nothing to do with atheism. You just hate uneblievers and that is why you just project anything immoral or negative with atheism.










What the hell are you on about? You muslims cant even decide what swimwear is haraam but you can agree on deeper and more complex philosophical questions?

Logicboy03:
5) Arab VS Jewish delusion;
I wont write much on this as I plan to write another thread on the islamic Arab delusion. The main point here is that while christianity is a Jewish religion, many christians disassociate themselves from modern or classical jews by retaining their identity while being christian.

It is not uncommon for you to see muslims claiming that the best civilization for mankind was the Arab empire or caliphates during or immediately after Muhammed.

maclatunji:

So much love being expressed here , I feel so welcome already. I should visit more often seeing that I have so many fans here. Keep the compliments coming as I travel to slumberland.

Bye!

Logicboy03:
...and he/she mocked your god?

maclatunji:

Heheheehe... Now, this is really hilarious.

olawalebabs: deols has said it all, you can't insult me and expect me to be your friend.

F00028:

that's the line right there. dont be crossing it and start whining how muslims cant take a joke.

if christians will still think you're a darling after insulting the heck outta God and Jesus then you guys were made each other.

just dont bring it here or you get what you're gonna get.

you have to understand a people, logic before you can change them if that's really your objective.

Logicboy03:


lol.....an eye for an eye leaves everyone blind.


Most people in this section do not take it as a life and death matter. This is because many christians here put the human before the religion. You take mockery made by a screen name seriously because you put religion before the human being.

Like I said, forgiveness and tolerance. This is why I can abuse the hell out of Anony and we would still meet at a pub to discuss matters. The internet is different from real life and only tolerance would allow you to see that the internet persona is different from the real person.

Reyginus: To a deluded mind, anything is.

Logicboy03:
No one thinks I am a darling here. The difference is that many christians here put the human before the religion...

Logicboy03:
Your Quran even acknowledges this as well- it calls unbelievers mockers because it knows that people who dont believe in a religion will never take it seriously. Go and read.

F00028:
maybe they need look at the bible's pisition on blasphemy a little more closely.



just 'cos you dont take something seriously it doesnt mean that when you denigrate it, people who do take it seriously gotta just sit there and take it or even think is funny.

Logicboy03:
When you and your Quran condemn unbelievers, you expect me to take it on the chin but when it is your turn you keep malice and treat us atheist as lepers.

Logicboy03:
How many times does the Quran state that the unbeliever will suffer?

Logicboy03:
I dont take these things too seriously because I see the human before the religion, just like many christians here.

Logicboy03:
You guys better change this your hostile attitude

cyrexx:

you mean these threads

https://www.nairaland.com/993339/muslims-house-please-give-look

https://www.nairaland.com/1004936/allah


O yea, he didn't see it coming. he was expecting the muslims to bow to his "superior" logic and change their views while he adamantly refuse to change his own view even after serious debunking.

he is a good apologists though, he is really good at defending his indefensible religion, i guess every religion has their bright minds, whose mission is to defend their faith by all means necessary, fair or foul

F00028:
have you heard of anywhere in the Qur'an where the objects of worship of those "unbelievers" are referred to in profane vulgar terms like you guys do to what muslims hold sacred?

F00028:
and do you see us whining about how "unbelievers" dont love and share a joke with us?

F00028:
you're an atheist! why should that matter to you?

F00028:
like i said, you guys were made for each other.

F00028:
or what?

Logicboy03:

So what is your point about drinking? Do you think Boko Haram drink alcohol? Alcohol has nothing to do with God or love


I couldnt care less what your reasons are for coming to the sialm section. Point is, forgive and forget. Why would you keep malice with a screen name because he or she isnt muslim and he/she mocked your god?

You cant even follow the steps. jeez

The point was simple. Christians have ammended their stance and religion to meet modern standards and science- something that muslims never do. This is why christianity is accepted much more than Islam anywhere. Just look at atheist Japan- they dont believe in Jesus but they have church weddings because it is fun and nice. Which non-muslim will ever do a muslim wedding?

Who is asking you to fight Maclatunji? Why are you talking nonsense? My point is that you either keep quiet when peeps completely bash muslims together with their acceptance of Maclatunjis dictatorship or you tell the truth.

As for being stubborn and being highly opinionanted, it has nothing to do with atheism. You just hate uneblievers and that is why you just project anything immoral or negative with atheism.

What the hell are you on about? You muslims cant even decide what swimwear is haraam but you can agree on deeper and more complex philosophical questions?