davidylan:

Another brainless simpleton who simply supports another non-believer without thinking. So you do believe, along with ifeness, that time travel is real? You do support his view on nephilims from another planet seeding us with alien DNA? Quite rich to call "christians" ignorant when you havent fully digested ifeness viewpoint... he does take a lot of his views straight from the very bible you think is full of spurious myths.

But then... who has ever lost betting on the stupidity of the average NL atheist.

ifeness: Darwin story of evolution is valid. Scientists have been looking for the missing link,the stuff that made man very clever. In my opinion, the missing link is the DNA from the advanced scientist recorded in ancient scrolls of india,dead sea scroll,book of the dead.

The bible never tells complete stories. Why? Becos it aint original. The book of enoch says it all, it confirmed the presence of advanced beings coming from the sky to mate with homo sapience. They came down and taught human the act of war,societies,government and mathematics.

Enigma:

The bolded! This is one thing that I have been saying for the past couple of years --- about even some of the better atheist debaters here. Most NL evangelical atheists are obtuse and some quite thick.

Some of them think they will look smart by repeating nonsense from their apostles. I remember once that an issue came up because of something in the news and one of the atheists here saying he will go and see what Sam Harris thinks about it! Of course he immediately showed himself to be a slave to a prat --- slave to the prat Harris. There is of course the "touch not my anointed syndrome" that hits the atheists when you point out to them that their Daddy G.O. aka Dawkins is a dunce ---- such as to lead people to defend a daft speculation that aliens seeded life on earth!

As for this thread, well why would any one want to spend much time engaging an argument like the example below:



Even though I have highlighted some things in red, all of that post is not more than facepalm stuff. It is simply laughable.

Oh by the way, a couple of bonuses:

- Even granted that the big b.ang theory is accepted by many, though the sensible will know that there are still many questions, the theory if anything will make the sensible think there must be a creator. Ah, and by the way the theory was even originated by a person who was a Christian --- so big deal about the big b.ang theory.

- Tai Solarin was widely known to be an atheist; he did not hide it; he was loved in spite of it.

- Shey Fela who used to yab both Christians and Moslems regularly in his music is the one that someone will tell us that his religious beliefs were not known?

- And has Leo Igwe not been practising and advocating his atheism openly in Nigeria for years?

Laughable stuff.

senbonzakura_kageyoshi:

I don't have to emphasise this. The average Nigerian doesn't know what Fela's (and Soyinka's and Tai Solarin's) views on Christianity was/is. Quite some people are just learning that information on this thread. And even amongst those that already knew, quite a number are just being reminded. Why? Because when you mention "Fela" or "Tai Solarin" or "Wole Soyinka", what first comes to mind are "king of afro music", "outstanding educationist" and "Nobel laureate" and not "atheist", "atheists and "atheist". Besides, sure, Wole Soyinka and Fela does not/did not profess allegiance to any religion. But that doesn't mean their atheists either.

But for John Ahmed (fictional character and in no way an allusion to any John Ahmed, real or otherwise), an everyday guy living his everyday life, proclaiming atheism in hugely conservative Nigeria is a big deal. And if he does that, it becomes his calling card, and those that know him will start seeing an "atheist" tag hanging over his head.

There are things we keep away from our families, for the safety of our relationship with them. I think we should respect others' wish to keep certain things private. We don't know Logic boy's family or how they would react to his atheism and how much he cherishes his relationship with them, so it would be a bit rich to pass judgement when we too, in all likelihood, have certain things, no matter how small, that we're keeping from our loved ones.

vedaxcool: Someone has been watching prometheus . . . David nice one there, I stopped taking these people serious because they try hard to sell themselves as scientist, in fact they would make more sense disapproving religion by its theological argument than always yapping about what they do not know, . . . But after all cowards die a thousand death (funny they live a thousand lives), but a coward who faces no danger and remains a coward must be innately a coward in every sense of the word COWARD!

davidylan: The impetus for this post was a surprising comment that i read from a popular militant atheist around here...

davidylan:
This was particularly shocking to me. How is it that "atheists" who claim to have such an overwhelming evidence of the mythology of religion be completely unable to discuss these points with their families and friends with the same zeal with which they attack christians here?

davidylan:
Are atheists guilty of living a double life?

davidylan:
One of affected supreme knowledge of the science that disproves God online (where they have the safety of anonymity) and are complete cowards to their real friends and family outside of here?

davidylan:
While reading through some writings by other prominent atheists, i realized the idea of atheist cowardice isnt quite new... take this for example - In 2010, Christian apologist Mariano Grinbank wrote:
“ The New Atheists have expressed that the proverbial straw-that-broke-the-Atheist-camel's-back was the group of attacks on the United States of America on September 11, 2001 AD. That is not to say that some of them were not Atheist activists before then, but 9/11 fanned the flames of their activism.
The attacks on 9/11 where primarily caused by Islamic extremism (with a long list of other causes such as maintenance or gaining of power, wealth, popularity, etc.). The question is: what have the New Atheists done in response to this particular event, this particular threat? Surely, they would focus their efforts primarily, if not exclusively, upon confronting this threat, this cause, head on.

davidylan:
Yet, what have the New Atheists done? What they have and have not done makes one wonder if their appeal to 9/11 is a reason or an excuse. After all, why 9/11? Are they not aware of similar atrocities throughout history? Are they not aware of the recent chronicles of the most secular century in human history also being the bloodiest-with millions upon millions being murdered not only during war, but also by their own regimes? (see here).

davidylan:
Have any of the New Atheists toured Islamic countries giving lectures in which they condemn Allah, Muhammad, Islam, or Muslims?

davidylan:
Have any of them debated Muslims in Islamic countries?

davidylan:
Have any of them been interviewed on Al Jazeera?

davidylan:
Have any of them written entire books in which they condemn Allah, Muhammad, Islam, or Muslims? Have they done anything of the sort at all?

davidylan:
The answers to all of the above are: "No."

davidylan:
Rather, what they have done is sit within the comfort and safety of countries based on Christian principles and conveniently launched condemnations which are roughly quantifiable as being 90% anti-Christian and 10% anti-other religions (and this may be being too generous an estimation).[33]

davidylan:
think about this... how many "atheists" do you see loudly proclaiming that islam is a myth? why do they prefer to sit within the comfort and safety of the christian section of Nairaland conveniently launching vitriolic tirades at God (i.e. Jesus Christ) while paying complete lip service to allah? when questioned on this... why is the puerile excuse usually that "most atheists" were formerly christians anyway?

vedaxcool: Someone has been watching prometheus . . . David nice one there, I stopped taking these people serious because they try hard to sell themselves as scientist, in fact they would make more sense disapproving religion by its theological argument than always yapping about what they do not know, . . . But after all cowards die a thousand death (funny they live a thousand lives), but a coward who faces no danger and remains a coward must be innately a coward in every sense of the word COWARD!

Obi1kenobi: The OP is pretty brain-dead. I'm irreligious and my family know and I've been subjected to emotional blackmail from my parents ever since with my mum going hysterical, crying for days and my dad telling me he'll forever blame me if she died and whatnot. That level of bigotry from the average ignorant Nigerian is the reason many don't tell their family. I don't shy away from telling the average bigotted idiot on the street, including friends, whether in my school days or in the work place, my beliefs but I understand those who don't do so.

vedaxcool: Wow very tale telling signs from the HOUSE NI.GGA after all we live in a post slavery, post colonial world yet a COWARD puts up a picture of white man and adds a statement containing the word nigga shows very clearly that atheism to this jejune represents a conduit for worshiping the white man and praising the danzling effect of his godliness that to this day he see himself the HOUSE N.IGGA who prefers the shackles of slavery and inferiority complex make sure you eventually bleach yourself white so as to achieve the next stage of evolution for black atheists like your . . . POOR YOU indeed

thehomer:

Some say a living dog is better off than a dead lion. This is what the Bible that Christians carry about says. Make of it what you will.

vedaxcool:

The op was speaking of this guy and certain kinds of coward in this section (off course being careful when dealing with people is very good but unless this certain coward believes his family and friend are viciously violent, then the picture below from the wizard of oz captures the op quite well)

manmustwac: @post
Your topic just proves that its total nonsense to call us non believers evangelical atheists since the majority of us keep our views on religion to ourselves.

. . . despite the protestations of Dawkins and his fellows, the behaviour of the Humanists does not exhibit the kind of openness to evidence and adaptability that we’d expect from a rational, non-religious mindset. On the contrary, it is awash with the intolerance of enthusiasm.

For a start, there is the nigh-hysterical repudiation of religion. As with religions themselves, the implication is that those who fail to follow the New Atheist line are not just wrong, but morally challenged.

Enigma:

There are passive (or generally non-evangelical) atheists --- and there are the evangelical atheists.

Hear what Michael Ruse, an atheist, says about evangelical (or 'new') atheists like Dawkins and his followers.

http://www.aeonmagazine.com/world-views/michael-ruse-humanism-religion/



He said some more interesting stuff about evangelical (or 'new') atheists in that piece but I'll keep things to above for now.

There are other aspects of the New Atheist movement that remind me of religion. One is the adulation by supporters and enthusiasts for the leaders of the movement. It is not just a matter of agreement or respect, but of a kind of worship. This certainly surrounds Dawkins, who is admittedly charismatic.

vedaxcool:

The op was speaking of this guy and certain kinds of coward in this section (off course being careful when dealing with people is very good but unless this certain coward believes his family and friend are viciously violent, then the picture below from the wizard of oz captures the op - the guy who is a HOUSE NIGGA and worships the white man behaving not different from Samuel L jackson role in Django, quite well)

thehomer:

This is just a stupid response. Did you read the original post on this thread? Did you notice how heavily it referred to adherents of your religion? Do you know why? Here let me tell you; it is because he like many people in the rest of the world, think that your fellow Muslims are willing to murder atheists.

With respect to friends and family, read my post responding to the OP.

vedaxcool:

Yawns and his family and friends are muslims right? Dude, the point I was making is very clear, I was responding to a particular aspect of the op, your response simply jump off track! But know I see nothing wrong in being the cowardly lion of wizard of oz fame as long as the person finds fulfillment in doing so!

ifeness: There were already humans on the planet even after the devastation that wiped out civilisations ,including dinorsears

The gods( they were called gods by primitive men who already existed,who had evolved after millions of years,who passed through evolution) came to our planet to add their DNA to humans.

They created an artifical DNA bank where they carried out experiments just like our scientists do today( this is a valid evidence

davidylan: I mean seriously. What does one say to the above? I'm just weak!

Ishilove:
This is one of the most...I don't know which adjective to use to qualify ...this...this... Arrgh, I am lost for words!

manmustwac: @post
Your topic just proves that its total nonsense to call us non believers evangelical atheists since the majority of us keep our views on religion to ourselves.

Logicboy03: Empty barrel Enigma went ahead to copy Davidylans failed arguments about atheists practicing openly in Naija.

The last time I checked, Leo Igwe is based in Nigeria. He does his work for European organisations and the videos of him I have seen debating are done in Europe.

Fela was not an atheist.Sure he knew that christianity and islam were frauds but that doesnt mean that he was an atheist.

Tai solarin is dead. And we can see how you christians and muslims sidestep his many achievements for Naija to insult him for his beliefs;
https://www.nairaland.com/723007/tai-solarin-life-ideas-accomplishments


Funny how you fools can not mention more than 2 atheists in Nigeria, a country with close to a population of 200 million.



The most foolish thing is that you claim psalm 14 that atheists are evil fools then on the other hand, go on to say that atheists do not receive discrimantio in Nigeria.



Some christians can lie. Even on a sunday

poopli: hey david, you again. am waiting for your answers on origin in ooman's thread. anyway, Eat this .

ATHEISTS LOVE TO DEBUNK XTIANS BECAUSE IT MAKES SENSE A LITTLE. ISLAM IS DAMAGED BEYOND REPAIR, HAVE YOU READ THE QURAN AT ALL, IT CONTAINS NOTHING THAT MAKES SCIENTIFIC SENSE.

AM AN AGNOSTIC AND I ALSO SPEAK AGAINST XTIANS AND BIBLE BECAUSE I FEEL THREATENED BY ITS EXPLANATIONS, IF NOT, I WILL JUST ABANDON THE BIBLE LIKE MOST ATHEISTS DO TO QURAN.

SECONDLY, SPEAKING AGAINST THE QURAN MIGHT GET YOU BOMBED AND KILLED, MUSLIMS ARE ANIMALS, WHO WOULD DEBATE WITH THEM?
SO WE FEEL SECURED ABUSING XTIAN GOD AND DEBUNKING THE BIBLE THAN DOING THE SAME TO MUSLIMS BECAUSE NO MATTER WHAT, XTIANS CANT JUST BE CRAZY ENOUGH TO KILL FOR THAT.

DO YOU UNDERSTAND?