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Re: Should A Student Pay Tithe? by Goshen360(m): 6:28am On Mar 10, 2013 |
There're two (2) systems of tithing 1. The PRE-law tithing and 2. The law (of Moses) tithing I'll try to be concise even though I love to teach intensively for students to understand. Lemme begin with the PRE-law tithing. 1. The PRE-law tithing. Tithe teachers when been scrutinzed in sound doctrine\teaching. That is, teaching that MUST agree from Genesis to Revelation, they return to the pre-law tithing by Abraham and claim Christian ought to continue tithing because scriptures says as many are of faith are the seed of Abraham. Studying biblical text is the key to the truth. Abraham is relevant to Christianity because 1, He is the 'biological' father or 'patriarch' of the Jewish Nation through which his linage the promised of Messiah will descend. 2. Abraham is 'type' of them that of called and responded by faith, hence Abraham 'believed' God and it counted to him for righteousness. That is how we, Christians who are called and responded in 'faith' are engrafted into God's family. 11Circumcision was a sign that Abraham already had faith and that God had already accepted him and declared him to be righteous—even before he was circumcised. So Abraham is the spiritual father of those who have faith but have not been circumcised. They are counted as righteous because of their faith. 12And Abraham is also the spiritual father of those who have been circumcised, but only if they have the same kind of faith Abraham had before he was circumcised. 13Clearly, God’s promise to give the whole earth to Abraham and his descendants was based not on his obedience to God’s law, but on a right relationship with God that comes by faith. 14If God’s promise is only for those who obey the law, then faith is not necessary and the promise is pointless. 15For the law always brings punishment on those who try to obey it. (The only way to avoid breaking the law is to have no law to break!). 16So the promise is received by faith. It is given as a free gift. And we are all certain to receive it, whether or not we live according to the law of Moses, if we have faith like Abraham’s. For Abraham is the father of all who believe. Romans 4, New Living Translations Extracts: 1. Abraham is the spiritual father of those who have faith (in Christ Jesus) but have not been circumcised - The Gentiles. 2. And Abraham is also the spiritual father of those who have been circumcised, - The Jews....but only if they have the same kind of faith (in receiving the promise of the Messiah in which the families of the earth shall be blessed) 3. Abraham tithed to Melchizedek in Genesis 14 from pagan's properties recovered from war, not from his personal income 4. Abraham was already rich in Genesis 13 and blessed with Silver, Gold and Cattles without any record of tithing. 5. Abraham's was not obeying any God's law or commandment to tithe according to Romans 4:13 but today's churches had hidden under Abraham's example of tithing and made it monthly law for Christians to pay tithe. 6. Abraham's example of tithing is NOT monthly 'payment' of tithe; it was an example of 'giving' - Study the text in Hebrews 7:4 and Genesis 14:20; the word 'pay' did not occur in Abraham's action - it was a perfect example of giving. 7. Abraham's tithing could not have been acceptable under the law of Moses because it was pagan's properties and not of Abraham produce of faith. 2. The law (of Moses) tithing. Many Christians do not understand or know that what was quoted in Malachi 3:8-10, the text being used by many churches with the threat of being curse to teach tithe to Christians originated under the law of Moses and was carried until the time of Malachi and even until the time of Christ. What then is God's biblical tithing under the law of Moses? Extracts: 1. Tithe was only crops and animals, never money even though money existed from Genesis. Hence, God's original tithable items are crops and animals, money was never an acceptable tithe under God's law for the national Israel, NOT Christians. - Leviticus 27:30-32 2. The tithe is the LORD's BUT He gave it to the Levites. Levites are temple workers with Aaron the priest. (Numbers 18:20-29) 3. In modern day, Aaron will represent pastors while Levites will represent church workers e.g ushers, choirs, etc 4. God NEVER asked Aaron to receive tithe BUT the Levites (Numbers 18:20-29) and the Levites will give Aaron 'tenth' past of the tithe they receive. Therefore, if biblical tithing is to be practiced today, the biblical right belongs to workers in worship places not pastors. The workers will then give tenth part to pastors. 5. There's provision in God's biblical tithing for tithers to EAT their tithes ONLY WHEN CONVERTED TO MONEY. That is, God's original tithe is never money but when you tithe in money, God says used the money to buy whatever your heart desire and eat including strong drink\alcohol. Deuteronomy 14:22-29 6. Malachi 3:8-10 is NOT addressing the church. It was addressing the priest who were stealing\robbing God's tithe in those days. The context of the audience of Malachi that carried into Chapter 3 started from Chapter 2:1,4,7,3:3. The context is consistent - God wasn't addressing the church through Malachi as there wasn't Christ's church yet at that time; God was addressing the Levitical Priesthood - They were talking tithe and robbing the portion of God to Aaron as commandment in Numbers 18. 7. Matthew 23:23 is still the Old Testament for Christ has not fulfilled the law yet. The law of Moses was still in effect and the tithe in Matthew 23:23 is still food, not money. Also, it is still a matter of the law that is practiced by the scribes and pharisees, not Christ's disciples\Apostles. 8. Only those that produced crops and animals in Israel are commanded to tithe. Jesus was a carpenter, our Lord never tithed. Peter was a fisher man, he never tithed. Paul was a tent maker, he never tithed and Paul said, follow me as I follow Christ. The tax collectors never tithe. Luke, never tithed. The commandment to tithe was only applicable to those who produced crops and animal IN ISRAEL. 9. There is nowhere in the New Testament where any of the Apostles mentioned the word 'tithe' or 'tithing' for Christians. Rather, the book of Hebrews 7 cancelled and ended tithing because the dispensation of the law of Moses had ended. It is wrongly dividing the word of truth to teach that we are not under the law of Moses but still hold onto only tithe which was not even money in the first place. 10. Hebrews 7:5 talks about 'commandment to take tithe given to the levites' as per Numbers 18 I mentioned above. In verse 16, it talks about 'commandment that is required for being a levitical priesthood' - one must belong to the tribe of levi. In verse 18, it says there is VERILY a disannulling of the 'commandment' going before. What commandment is he talking about? The context of commandment refers to 2 things - to take tithe (verse 5) and requirement for being a levitical priesthood (verse 16). Therefore, if the levitical priesthood is gone, the commandment to take tithe is also gone\disannulled. The 'commandment' disannulled must included the two pointer\specific things commanded in context. Hence, the book of Hebrews 7 ended tithe for Christians after the death and resurrection of Christ. 11. Christ is the foundation of Christian faith, taught to his disciples and carried on into the New Testament that started AFTER his death and resurrection. Christ never said, "tithe and it shall be tithed to you". He never said, "tithe and you shall be blessed or it will make you blessed". Christ said, "Give and it shall be given to you" This is the message of New Testament carried on by the Apostles. A Christian is at liberty (from the law of Moses) to practice Grace based giving as in 2 Corinthians 9:7. 1 Like |
Re: Should A Student Pay Tithe? by komek(m): 6:51am On Mar 10, 2013 |
Joagbaje:Bros, I get one question wey dey worry me for sometime about tithe. I dey earn 10k and as we are talking, iam owing debt of about 12k being carry over from over expenditure last month. Pls should I stii pay tithe in this new month as my salary comes in? Becos I have debt to pay and my debtors are on my neck. |
Re: Should A Student Pay Tithe? by Nobody: 7:56am On Mar 10, 2013 |
When is tithe paid is it paid once in a year or wen my guys |
Re: Should A Student Pay Tithe? by dgdatong: 8:26am On Mar 10, 2013 |
Tithe The most controversial issue in mordern christianity is the issue of tithing. Many pay tithes without really knowing what it is meant for, many also collect tithes without knowing what they are to use it for. I have made a small research strictly from the bible to get the origin and use of tithes. As a guide, the bible reference relating to each paragraph is listed at the end of the paragraph. Tithe is the tenth of increase outputs of the people of Isreal and is to be given to the children of Levi who dedicate their whole lives for service in the house of God. Because they have no right of inheritance in Isreal (they cant own land, oxen, sheep etc.), they are essentially collectors of the tithe and not the owners. They had to also pay their own tithe being a tenth of all the tithe collected. This is mainly for accounting purposes: It is done in order to quantify the job done by the levites. They are to offer that tithe which has been given unto them as their heave offering to Aaron the priest. Heave offering are considered to be offerings to God mainly eaten from by the priests and the Levites. (ref: Numbers 18:21-28). Before we continue with the usage of tithe as it is recorded in the scripture, we need to be reminded of the exit of the Isrealites from Egypt as they were led out by Moses. They sojourned for forty years in the wilderness. They were on their way to the Land that God had promised them. The origin of Mosaic tithe was to build a reserve that would help them as a people to settle in the Land of Judea which God had promised them. This ascertion is evident in the several counsels in the scripture where it is said that they will use the tithe in the Land where God had chosen for them. Many may argue that Abraham paid tithe to Melchizedek. Yes he did but the law of the tithe as stipulated by Moses did not stipulate that tithes be paid on spoils of war which Abraham did. It was to be paid from the increase of farm outputs. So we can safely say that the tithe paid by Melchizedek was not same as was ordered by Moses. Things that the Isrealites brought in prepartion for this new Land included Tithes, heave offering, sacrifices, free will offerings and burnt offerrings. Of all the categories, it was tithe that had a specific quantity and was compulsory for all who produced on the Lands either herds, oils, corn etc. As stated earlier even the Levites' tithe was quantified from the much they collected. Tithes were to be used by the children of Isreal rejoicing in what the Lord has given them i.e the New Cities of Judea. This was to be done in a place where the Lord had given the children of Isreal their Land (Judea). They were warned not to use the contributions until they got to their destination. It mentioned those to partake in the usage of tithes/offerings as: ye, and your sons, and your daughters, and your menservants, and your maidservants, and the Levite that is within your gates. It is obvious from this that Isreal was using the offerrings/tithes in order to build a wealth for the nation which they were to posses in the future. It should be noted that the book of Deuteronomy is regard as the second book of the law for the Isrealites. It was preapring them for the task ahead of them in the promised land. (Deuteronomy 12:6-17). It was commanded them that If the tithe was too heavy to be carried, it should be converted to money and the money taken to the chosen place of the Lord. The money will be used gotten will be used by the children of isreal for anything that they wished to use it for: And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth: and thou shalt eat there before the LORD thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou and thine household. (Deuteronomy 14:22-28) The Isrealites were constantly reminded of the people who are to partake as: The Levite, stranger, the fatherless, and the widow may eat and be filled. (Deuteronomy 26:1-12) Deuteronomy as we noted was a book of expected behaviour while Chronicles is a factual account of what happened. In Chronicles, it is seen that the people of Isreal had reached their Land of Promise i.e. Cities of Judah. There, everyone gathered all the tithe and offerrings and the things that have been consecreted to the Lord. It took them 4 months to gather them in heaps. This was presented to Hezekiah and the princes. It was organised by the priests and the Levites. When asked about it, they said people had brought them and they had eaten and had their fill. Hezekiah then ordered that they should put them in stores. The store was to be manned by Connoniah the Levite and Simei was his assistant. Here, a factual account is given of how the tithes/offerings were gathered. It is evident that many people kept their tithes at home and only brought them out when it was requested. It may also be that it was brought in by the Levites who may have been safe-keeping them. A point of note here is that it was the first time that Hezekiah saw the kind of heap of food gathered. It was also then that he requested a store to be prepared to keep the left overs. It was only then also that he appointed people to take care of the store. This confirms that throughout their journey, they were gathering the tithes/offerings for use in the distant land where the Lord had promised. Recall also that, as stated earlier, it was said that if the tithe was too heavy to be carried allong, they should convert it to money and taken to the promised land where they could use it for what they wished. (2 Chronicles 31:5-12) Because of the successes gained as described above, tithing and offertory became the practice in Isreal. The practice continued to be that the Levites do not have an inheritance and are not expected to have an inheritance so they were made to collect the tithe under the supervision of the priest and they are to put it in the store which was mentioned in the previous paragraphs. To be administered and used by the people of Isreal as mentioned already. This practice continued to the time of Jesus. At some point in time, the practice of issuance from the stock was defiled. For example, the Levites at a point were not given their portions by those Levites who where in charge of sharing of the things in the store. This made some levites to go back to tilt the land for a livelihood against their original purpose. Nehemiah made some reshufflements in the tithe management cabinet in order to preserve the essence of the Levites . The abuse of tithes is not a new thing. Malachi was also a Levite and decried that he will bear witness against those who defraud the poor, the widows and the strangers. This is in relation to the storehouse mentioned earlier especially for those that were contributing the tithes and other offerings. He said that wrong doers will be put on trial because they "deprive laborers of their wages, they oppress the widows and the fatherless, and deprive the foreigners among you of justice,”. It should be understood that the levites were were primarily civil servants, readers of the books of the law, teachers of the law, gate-keepers, singers etc. And their wages were paid from the tithes/offerrings. Here Malachy decries that people do not pay their tithes and offerings which forms the stock of store. He calls this wrong as robbing God as it is from where the widows, the poor, ophans are fed. He further encouraged the Isrealites to bring their tithes and their offerings so that there may be food in the house of the Lord. This He said He will send his blessings so that they will have much more. (Malachi 3:9-11) Conclusion: The new testament did not encourage payment of tithe. It condemned the Pharasees for bragging about their payment of tithe and not obeying the other laws. He said wore unto them. In todays world, pastors and men of God should be careful when they call for tithes. Tithes are meant, as we have seen, for the beterment of the entirety of the widows, ophans, priests, church workers. It is also meant to provide for education of the people and provision of food and and health care. The closest of the contemporary item to tithe is the tax that we pay monthly which Government uses to care for people. If you evade tax payment, be sure that God will hold you responible for the less priviledged. If you are a government official and you mis-use taxpayers funds, God will hod you responsible. If you collect tithes and you dont remit as was done in Isreal, God will hold you responsible. The decision is yours. You may wish to send me your private comments in my mail dgdatong@yahoo.com or dgdatong@gmail.com 1 Like |
Re: Should A Student Pay Tithe? by Nobody: 9:08am On Mar 10, 2013 |
Honestly I dont understand why many pastors say we're no more bound by old testament rules like divorce, indecent dressing etc but then emphasize on tithing |
Re: Should A Student Pay Tithe? by gabbrri(m): 9:12am On Mar 10, 2013 |
this thite thing is rili getin into there head. Inmajin a pastor i did a job 4 refuses payin me sayin is shld take is as a thite gift. Is dat rite? |
Re: Should A Student Pay Tithe? by Petraman(m): 9:13am On Mar 10, 2013 |
Valto: so people don mumu reach to even pay tithe on their school fees... how then are u going to complete it and pay the school feesDon't mind them! They will go steal from GTBank |
Re: Should A Student Pay Tithe? by Petraman(m): 9:17am On Mar 10, 2013 |
Joagbaje:Are u now saying those that do not pay tithe on behalf of thier children are fools? |
Re: Should A Student Pay Tithe? by curfew: 9:18am On Mar 10, 2013 |
a student should not only pay tithe but also bring sin offering, trespass offering, burnt offering, first fruit offering, wave offering, heave offering, drink offering, freewill offering, meat offering and peace offering to the modafcuka preacher. "But the tithes of the children of Israel, which they offer as an heave offering unto the LORD, I have given to the Levites to inherit: therefore I have said unto them, Among the children of Israel they shall have no inheritance." (Numbers 18:24). "And at that time were some appointed over the chambers for the treasures, for the offerings, for the firstfruits, and for the tithes, to gather into them out of the fields of the cities the portions of the law for the priests and Levites: for Judah rejoiced for the priests and for the Levites that waited." (Nehemiah 12:44). and to them said HE "Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it. And I will rebuke the devourer for your sakes, and he shall not destroy the fruits of your ground; neither shall your vine cast her fruit before the time in the field, saith the LORD of hosts." (Malachi 3:10-11). "And the priest the son of Aaron shall be with the Levites, when the Levites take tithes: and the Levites shall bring up the tithe of the tithes unto the house of our God, to the chambers, into the treasure house." (Nehemiah 10:38). CHRIST hadn't died. The old law obtained: "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. " (Matthew 23:23). ... the self-righteous tithe paying "The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican. I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess. " (Luke 18:11-12). "If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron? For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law. For he of whom these things are spoken pertaineth to another tribe, of which no man gave attendance at the altar." (Hebrews 7:11-13). Tithe is a mosaic law. 1 Like |
Re: Should A Student Pay Tithe? by Petraman(m): 9:22am On Mar 10, 2013 |
Pastor Kun:Indeed u're a pastor. If u're not into pastoral work, u better start now |
Re: Should A Student Pay Tithe? by toolovely(m): 10:04am On Mar 10, 2013 |
I am a christian but I still don't believe a student should be paying tithe except d student is working at d same time. What's tithe? 1/10th ☀f ur income, harvest. What's an income? - money received by a person as wages. Meaning d person is working. So, is a student a worker? Besides, d pocket money that's giving to d student, d parents have already paid their tithe b4 giving 2 dia children-student. Someone said tithing is a thing ☀f faith...that's a big lie. Its an obligation as a christian u must fulfil infact, its a commandment |
Re: Should A Student Pay Tithe? by curfew: 10:09am On Mar 10, 2013 |
toolovely: I am a christian but I still don't believe a student should be paying tithe except d student is working at d same time. What's tithe? 1/10th ☀f ur income, harvest. What's an income? - money received by a person as wages. Meaning d person is working. So, is a student a worker? Besides, d pocket money that's giving to d student, d parents have already paid their tithe b4 giving 2 dia children-student. tithing is a law, not any obligation. it is the law of moses. |
Re: Should A Student Pay Tithe? by LADIbaba(m): 10:15am On Mar 10, 2013 |
Joagbaje: Please correct me if I am wrong, isn't the pocket money specific too i.e to be used for transportation within and outside campus+ phone calls+ feeding etc What tithe should a student pay in the real sense I believe its what you work hard and earn, you give part to GOD (if you wish to - nothing in Christianity is by force) I paid as a student doesn't make it right and doesn't mean I pay now I am working full time |
Re: Should A Student Pay Tithe? by Nobody: 10:36am On Mar 10, 2013 |
@Joagbaje: , you know I am not one to judge, but it is becoming apparent that your livelihood depends on the tithe and because of that , you refuse to abandon this demonic principle. Can I advice that you use your skills to get a real life job and stop fleecing the sheep. |
Re: Should A Student Pay Tithe? by jidewin(m): 11:57am On Mar 10, 2013 |
I am clear and concise about this.STUDENT SHOULD NOT AND MUST NOT BE CONNIVED TO PAY TITHE.Capital NO!Tithe Is for those who wants to honor God with a portion of what they earn as income to them. As a student,you are given allowances to sustain your stay in school and not for shopping.Please,this issue of tithing have been so badly abused my men and women of Ministries (note I didn't say MOG/WOG),making it sound as if genuinely if you don't pay tithe you will go to hell, NO. |
Re: Should A Student Pay Tithe? by mayorall(m): 12:14pm On Mar 10, 2013 |
Malachi 3 vs 10...bring ye al d tithes in2 my storhous,that dere mayb meat in mine aos, and prov me now herewit, saith d Lord of hosts, if I wl not open you d windows of heaven, and pour u out a blesn, dat dere shal nt b room enough to rcv it... Meanin Payin tithes is a spiritual transaction..God z nt a begger and e doesn't nid your money 4 anytn..your money doesn't bles God..it bleses u...tithing z jst like bznes wt God..u invest litu and harvest mor... When I entad higher institutn my popsy statd gvn me 2k out of his abundanc and even though d money z very smal, I statd payin my tithes wch z #200...God statd gvin me bznes ideas and I investd and developd dem....I stated making money on my own..after four months, my popsy increased my allowance to #10,000...since I av statd payin tithes, I avnt lackd any gd tin...TANK U JESUS...buh me no dey pay tithe with my school fees o...only allawee and money generated from my biz....... 1 Like |
Re: Should A Student Pay Tithe? by Nobody: 4:10pm On Mar 10, 2013 |
^^^^ Ur father increasing ur allowance was just a coincidence. Remember God showers rain on d righteous and d unrighteous likewise sunshine. Those dat dont tithe still get business ideas . 1 Like |
Re: Should A Student Pay Tithe? by alexleo(m): 4:22pm On Mar 10, 2013 |
akyus: How person go remove 10% of his school fees go pay tithe.because of either ignorance or overzealousness or both. |
Re: Should A Student Pay Tithe? by Nobody: 4:55pm On Mar 10, 2013 |
Segeggs: ^^^^there is nothing like coincidence..It is either your honor God who gives you wealth or you honor satan who also give wealth. you can't eat your cake and have it. The spiritual laws always determines what happens in the physical. God is not mocked. |
Re: Should A Student Pay Tithe? by AdexOmoby(f): 5:58pm On Mar 10, 2013 |
Re: Should A Student Pay Tithe? by PastorKun(m): 6:28pm On Mar 10, 2013 |
AdexOmoby: In short you are telling us that God sent robbers after you to collect his tithes which you didn't give to him SMH The fact remains that whether you tithe or not you could still have been robbed. Even churches that collect tithes get robbed so don't mis led that you got robbed because you din't pay tithe that God doesn't require from you in the first instance. |
Re: Should A Student Pay Tithe? by Nobody: 7:54pm On Mar 10, 2013 |
Bidam: there is nothing like coincidence..It is either your honor God who gives you wealth or you honor satan who also give wealth. you can't eat your cake and have it. The spiritual laws always determines what happens in the physical. God is not mocked.what about atheist who dont believe in a god nor satan?arent they millionaires among them?if u have fallen sick,faced failure ,disapointment,gone broke etc at some point in time,then u should know dat tithe is no more a protector as d devourer is still close to u. Jesus should be ur saviour not money cos claiming to have come clean of d above mentioned due to tithe means u are glorifying money(urself) instead of God. You never said dat though but u implied it and dat shows d damage tithe is doing to God's glory. |
Re: Should A Student Pay Tithe? by WuzilistiQ(m): 8:51pm On Mar 10, 2013 |
Well i think this is a very good discussion that my network(MTN) had allowed me to join i must say thank you, i have had series of LIVE argument about this matter and when you trace the people standing in favor of the student-tithting you will come to find out that they represent a new generation church, in my opinion i think we need to tell ourself the truth, and the truth starts from the heart which has to be pure, for if the heart is not pure then we tend to excite our energy on this matter in vain. Now a student is expected to go to school, if a student(from a poor background) is under his/her parents i think their tithe covers the family, God is not a greedy God, He knows your limits, so we should try to do our best, when that child grows he or she will become responsible for the tithting obligations and not their children. Most of this churches have nothing to do with your salvation what they preach all day is properity that will be in connection to your tithes and offerings, most churches are far away from the truth, selling the ideas of ''give first to be blessed later'', don't get me wrong it works only if we follow the footsteps of Hanna in the bible. she (Hanna)took her time to observe her church members and gave them anything she happen to find out from her observations which they lack, raging from clothes, food, medicine, shelter e.t.c . So i think we should in our own way do what is right, which is never to force one to do the least of the doctorines, 1. Be born again, 2. Maintian your faith by keeping the Ten commandment(i dont see tithe on the plate) finally make yourself fishers of men by reflecting the word of God of peaceful coexistence..... |
Re: Should A Student Pay Tithe? by Nobody: 9:15pm On Mar 10, 2013 |
Segeggs: what about atheist who dont believe in a god nor satan?arent they millionaires among them?if u have fallen sick,faced failure ,disapointment,gone broke etc at some point in time,then u should know dat tithe is no more a protector as d devourer is still close to u. Jesus should be ur saviour not money cos claiming to have come clean of d above mentioned due to tithe means u are glorifying money(urself) instead of God. You never said dat though but u implied it and dat shows d damage tithe is doing to God's glory.Don't be deceived, atheist are still under satan's rule whether they like it or not cos he is the god of this world, one way or the other they still pay back o him whether they no it or not..bro don't be carnal in your thinking try and be matured. tithes is even the least of what i do in God's kingdom and i do it sweatlessly with all humility. Giving to me is the only proof you have conquered greed. you have the wrong impression of me that i collect tithes abi..far from it. I just obey what the Spirit if God tells me to do and that makes me smarter than those who rebel the voice of the Spirit. Christ paid the penalty once and for all...but don't kid yourself that the principle of giving is not biblical...whether we call it tithes/offerings/collection/seeds etc..It is still giving. apply it to your life and you will be surprised. |
Re: Should A Student Pay Tithe? by Chomzy19(f): 9:38pm On Mar 10, 2013 |
toolovely: I am a christian but I still don't believe a student should be paying tithe except d student is working at d same time. What's tithe? 1/10th ☀f ur income, harvest. What's an income? - money received by a person as wages. Meaning d person is working. So, is a student a worker? Besides, d pocket money that's giving to d student, d parents have already paid their tithe b4 giving 2 dia children-student.the 11th commandment as given by toollovely, yet christ in all his sermons and parablles and teachings nevr preeached 'pay ur tithe' y do u think he failed to mention blessed are the tithe payers for they shall inherit in manifold what they give? Or do u think he omitted to teach us sth in all his stay on earth, could christ hv made such a costly omission 1 Like |
Re: Should A Student Pay Tithe? by Valto(m): 10:07pm On Mar 10, 2013 |
Chomzy19: the 11th commandment as given by toollovely, yet christ in all his sermons and parablles and teachings nevr preeached 'pay ur tithe' y do u think he failed to mention blessed are the tithe payers for they shall inherit in manifold what they give? Or do u think he omitted to teach us sth in all his stay on earth, could christ hv made such a costly omissiongbam!.. jesus never preached about it, but our new generation pastors preaches more about it this days cos of their greed |
Re: Should A Student Pay Tithe? by tpia5: 11:21pm On Mar 10, 2013 |
Pastor Kun: could be people sending robbers to collect the tithe. |
Re: Should A Student Pay Tithe? by AdexOmoby(f): 12:05am On Mar 11, 2013 |
The truth would be revelaed on the last day...But then, hope it would not be too late for some? |
Re: Should A Student Pay Tithe? by ogunsam75(m): 12:33am On Mar 11, 2013 |
frosbel:did u obey all d God's commandment in d bible? How many times have u make atonement for your sin by killing rams and cows on d altar of God? I know by the time u want to do so, ur pastor will tell u is a mosaic law, but he will not tell u tithe is mosaic law |
Re: Should A Student Pay Tithe? by ogunsam75(m): 12:37am On Mar 11, 2013 |
ifihearam:if d guy is wrong, then proof t! OLODO! |
Re: Should A Student Pay Tithe? by mike98989gmail: 2:15am On Mar 11, 2013 |
Tithing is not a law in the bible, so its not a "must to do thing".... In the bible God didn't specify whether student should pay or not(Mal. 3:10).... If you want to experience the blessings of tithing even as a student you can tithe so far its a revelation to you... If you want the windows of heaven to be opened to you as a student, i will advice you to tithe... I am a student and I do tithe and I have seen the windows of heaven opened to me in my business and career. So don't criticize what you don't understand... If its not a revelation to you, Don't preach it or do it...(But don't tithe from your school fees it is wrong because your school fees is not yours). If you do not tithe you are still gonna be blessed by God. God respects people who do not make money their source. (Note this: A man who can't tithe and thinks he can give to the poor, ends up not even giving to the poor at all...) Tithing helps you and not your Pastor or God...(I noticed that each time I dont pay tithe, I end up spending my money without giving a good account of it, but each time I pay my tithe, It makes me plan what I will do with the rest effective (There's is blessing in tithing be wise:::: Know that the devil can never tell you to give or pay tithe) |
Re: Should A Student Pay Tithe? by Nobody: 5:22am On Mar 11, 2013 |
@Bidam if u say jesus paid it all,why are u still paying? Do u know what christianity is? It is total freedom from burden and d curse of the law. Try not to pay tithe for a year and u will realise nothing will change negatively about u.it is voice man and ur inner greed u are obeying not God. God's tithe in d bible is different from what u actually practice. |
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