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Re: Should A Student Pay Tithe? by Goshen360(m): 6:28am On Mar 10, 2013
There're two (2) systems of tithing

1. The PRE-law tithing and
2. The law (of Moses) tithing

I'll try to be concise even though I love to teach intensively for students to understand. Lemme begin with the PRE-law tithing.

1. The PRE-law tithing.

Tithe teachers when been scrutinzed in sound doctrine\teaching. That is, teaching that MUST agree from Genesis to Revelation, they return to the pre-law tithing by Abraham and claim Christian ought to continue tithing because scriptures says as many are of faith are the seed of Abraham. Studying biblical text is the key to the truth. Abraham is relevant to Christianity because 1, He is the 'biological' father or 'patriarch' of the Jewish Nation through which his linage the promised of Messiah will descend. 2. Abraham is 'type' of them that of called and responded by faith, hence Abraham 'believed' God and it counted to him for righteousness. That is how we, Christians who are called and responded in 'faith' are engrafted into God's family.

11Circumcision was a sign that Abraham already had faith and that God had already accepted him and declared him to be righteous—even before he was circumcised. So Abraham is the spiritual father of those who have faith but have not been circumcised. They are counted as righteous because of their faith. 12And Abraham is also the spiritual father of those who have been circumcised, but only if they have the same kind of faith Abraham had before he was circumcised. 13Clearly, God’s promise to give the whole earth to Abraham and his descendants was based not on his obedience to God’s law, but on a right relationship with God that comes by faith. 14If God’s promise is only for those who obey the law, then faith is not necessary and the promise is pointless. 15For the law always brings punishment on those who try to obey it. (The only way to avoid breaking the law is to have no law to break!). 16So the promise is received by faith. It is given as a free gift. And we are all certain to receive it, whether or not we live according to the law of Moses, if we have faith like Abraham’s. For Abraham is the father of all who believe. Romans 4, New Living Translations

Extracts:

1. Abraham is the spiritual father of those who have faith (in Christ Jesus) but have not been circumcised - The Gentiles.

2. And Abraham is also the spiritual father of those who have been circumcised, - The Jews....but only if they have the same kind of faith (in receiving the promise of the Messiah in which the families of the earth shall be blessed)

3. Abraham tithed to Melchizedek in Genesis 14 from pagan's properties recovered from war, not from his personal income

4. Abraham was already rich in Genesis 13 and blessed with Silver, Gold and Cattles without any record of tithing.

5. Abraham's was not obeying any God's law or commandment to tithe according to Romans 4:13 but today's churches had hidden under Abraham's example of tithing and made it monthly law for Christians to pay tithe.

6. Abraham's example of tithing is NOT monthly 'payment' of tithe; it was an example of 'giving' - Study the text in Hebrews 7:4 and Genesis 14:20; the word 'pay' did not occur in Abraham's action - it was a perfect example of giving.

7. Abraham's tithing could not have been acceptable under the law of Moses because it was pagan's properties and not of Abraham produce of faith.

2. The law (of Moses) tithing.

Many Christians do not understand or know that what was quoted in Malachi 3:8-10, the text being used by many churches with the threat of being curse to teach tithe to Christians originated under the law of Moses and was carried until the time of Malachi and even until the time of Christ. What then is God's biblical tithing under the law of Moses?

Extracts:

1. Tithe was only crops and animals, never money even though money existed from Genesis. Hence, God's original tithable items are crops and animals, money was never an acceptable tithe under God's law for the national Israel, NOT Christians. - Leviticus 27:30-32

2. The tithe is the LORD's BUT He gave it to the Levites. Levites are temple workers with Aaron the priest. (Numbers 18:20-29)

3. In modern day, Aaron will represent pastors while Levites will represent church workers e.g ushers, choirs, etc

4. God NEVER asked Aaron to receive tithe BUT the Levites (Numbers 18:20-29) and the Levites will give Aaron 'tenth' past of the tithe they receive. Therefore, if biblical tithing is to be practiced today, the biblical right belongs to workers in worship places not pastors. The workers will then give tenth part to pastors.

5. There's provision in God's biblical tithing for tithers to EAT their tithes ONLY WHEN CONVERTED TO MONEY. That is, God's original tithe is never money but when you tithe in money, God says used the money to buy whatever your heart desire and eat including strong drink\alcohol. Deuteronomy 14:22-29

6. Malachi 3:8-10 is NOT addressing the church. It was addressing the priest who were stealing\robbing God's tithe in those days. The context of the audience of Malachi that carried into Chapter 3 started from Chapter 2:1,4,7,3:3. The context is consistent - God wasn't addressing the church through Malachi as there wasn't Christ's church yet at that time; God was addressing the Levitical Priesthood - They were talking tithe and robbing the portion of God to Aaron as commandment in Numbers 18.

7. Matthew 23:23 is still the Old Testament for Christ has not fulfilled the law yet. The law of Moses was still in effect and the tithe in Matthew 23:23 is still food, not money. Also, it is still a matter of the law that is practiced by the scribes and pharisees, not Christ's disciples\Apostles.

8. Only those that produced crops and animals in Israel are commanded to tithe. Jesus was a carpenter, our Lord never tithed. Peter was a fisher man, he never tithed. Paul was a tent maker, he never tithed and Paul said, follow me as I follow Christ. The tax collectors never tithe. Luke, never tithed. The commandment to tithe was only applicable to those who produced crops and animal IN ISRAEL.

9. There is nowhere in the New Testament where any of the Apostles mentioned the word 'tithe' or 'tithing' for Christians. Rather, the book of Hebrews 7 cancelled and ended tithing because the dispensation of the law of Moses had ended. It is wrongly dividing the word of truth to teach that we are not under the law of Moses but still hold onto only tithe which was not even money in the first place.

10. Hebrews 7:5 talks about 'commandment to take tithe given to the levites' as per Numbers 18 I mentioned above. In verse 16, it talks about 'commandment that is required for being a levitical priesthood' - one must belong to the tribe of levi. In verse 18, it says there is VERILY a disannulling of the 'commandment' going before. What commandment is he talking about? The context of commandment refers to 2 things - to take tithe (verse 5) and requirement for being a levitical priesthood (verse 16). Therefore, if the levitical priesthood is gone, the commandment to take tithe is also gone\disannulled. The 'commandment' disannulled must included the two pointer\specific things commanded in context. Hence, the book of Hebrews 7 ended tithe for Christians after the death and resurrection of Christ.

11. Christ is the foundation of Christian faith, taught to his disciples and carried on into the New Testament that started AFTER his death and resurrection. Christ never said, "tithe and it shall be tithed to you". He never said, "tithe and you shall be blessed or it will make you blessed". Christ said, "Give and it shall be given to you" This is the message of New Testament carried on by the Apostles. A Christian is at liberty (from the law of Moses) to practice Grace based giving as in 2 Corinthians 9:7.

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Re: Should A Student Pay Tithe? by komek(m): 6:51am On Mar 10, 2013
Joagbaje:

Every worshipper of God ought to honor God with tithe. Wise parents even pay tithe on behalf of the little babies . So being a student doesn't make a difference . But you don't tithe on money given for specific purpose . Such as school fees or books. But you can tithe on pocket money and allowances
Bros, I get one question wey dey worry me for sometime about tithe.
I dey earn 10k and as we are talking, iam owing debt of about 12k being carry over from over expenditure last month. Pls should I stii pay tithe in this new month as my salary comes in? Becos I have debt to pay and my debtors are on my neck.
Re: Should A Student Pay Tithe? by Nobody: 7:56am On Mar 10, 2013
When is tithe paid is it paid once in a year or wen my guys
Re: Should A Student Pay Tithe? by dgdatong: 8:26am On Mar 10, 2013
Tithe
The most controversial issue in mordern christianity is the issue of
tithing. Many pay tithes without really knowing what it is meant for,
many also collect tithes without knowing what they are to use it for. I
have made a small research strictly from the bible to get the origin
and use of tithes. As a guide, the bible reference relating to each
paragraph is listed at the end of the paragraph. Tithe is the tenth of
increase outputs of the people of Isreal and is to be given to the
children of Levi who dedicate their whole lives for service in the house
of God. Because they have no right of inheritance in Isreal (they cant
own land, oxen, sheep etc.), they are essentially collectors of the tithe
and not the owners. They had to also pay their own tithe being a
tenth of all the tithe collected. This is mainly for accounting purposes:
It is done in order to quantify the job done by the levites. They are to
offer that tithe which has been given unto them as their heave offering
to Aaron the priest. Heave offering are considered to be offerings to
God mainly eaten from by the priests and the Levites. (ref: Numbers
18:21-28).
Before we continue with the usage of tithe as it is recorded in the
scripture, we need to be reminded of the exit of the Isrealites from
Egypt as they were led out by Moses. They sojourned for forty years
in the wilderness. They were on their way to the Land that God had
promised them. The origin of Mosaic tithe was to build a reserve that
would help them as a people to settle in the Land of Judea which God
had promised them. This ascertion is evident in the several counsels
in the scripture where it is said that they will use the tithe in the Land
where God had chosen for them. Many may argue that Abraham paid
tithe to Melchizedek. Yes he did but the law of the tithe as stipulated
by Moses did not stipulate that tithes be paid on spoils of war which
Abraham did. It was to be paid from the increase of farm outputs. So
we can safely say that the tithe paid by Melchizedek was not same as
was ordered by Moses.
Things that the Isrealites brought in prepartion for this new Land
included Tithes, heave offering, sacrifices, free will offerings and burnt
offerrings. Of all the categories, it was tithe that had a specific
quantity and was compulsory for all who produced on the Lands
either herds, oils, corn etc. As stated earlier even the Levites' tithe
was quantified from the much they collected. Tithes were to be used
by the children of Isreal rejoicing in what the Lord has given them i.e
the New Cities of Judea. This was to be done in a place where the
Lord had given the children of Isreal their Land (Judea). They were
warned not to use the contributions until they got to their destination.
It mentioned those to partake in the usage of tithes/offerings as: ye,
and your sons, and your daughters, and your menservants, and your
maidservants, and the Levite that is within your gates. It is obvious
from this that Isreal was using the offerrings/tithes in order to build a
wealth for the nation which they were to posses in the future. It should
be noted that the book of Deuteronomy is regard as the second book
of the law for the Isrealites. It was preapring them for the task ahead
of them in the promised land. (Deuteronomy 12:6-17). It was
commanded them that If the tithe was too heavy to be carried, it
should be converted to money and the money taken to the chosen
place of the Lord. The money will be used gotten will be used by the
children of isreal for anything that they wished to use it for: And thou
shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, for
oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever
thy soul desireth: and thou shalt eat there before the LORD thy God,
and thou shalt rejoice, thou and thine household. (Deuteronomy
14:22-28)
The Isrealites were constantly reminded of the people who are to
partake as: The Levite, stranger, the fatherless, and the widow may
eat and be filled. (Deuteronomy 26:1-12)
Deuteronomy as we noted was a book of expected behaviour while
Chronicles is a factual account of what happened. In Chronicles, it is
seen that the people of Isreal had reached their Land of Promise i.e.
Cities of Judah. There, everyone gathered all the tithe and offerrings
and the things that have been consecreted to the Lord. It took them 4
months to gather them in heaps. This was presented to Hezekiah and
the princes. It was organised by the priests and the Levites. When
asked about it, they said people had brought them and they had
eaten and had their fill. Hezekiah then ordered that they should put
them in stores. The store was to be manned by Connoniah the Levite
and Simei was his assistant. Here, a factual account is given of how
the tithes/offerings were gathered. It is evident that many people kept
their tithes at home and only brought them out when it was
requested. It may also be that it was brought in by the Levites who
may have been safe-keeping them. A point of note here is that it
was the first time that Hezekiah saw the kind of heap of food
gathered. It was also then that he requested a store to be prepared to
keep the left overs. It was only then also that he appointed people to
take care of the store. This confirms that throughout their journey,
they were gathering the tithes/offerings for use in the distant land
where the Lord had promised. Recall also that, as stated earlier, it
was said that if the tithe was too heavy to be carried allong, they
should convert it to money and taken to the promised land where they
could use it for what they wished. (2 Chronicles 31:5-12)
Because of the successes gained as described above, tithing and
offertory became the practice in Isreal. The practice continued to be
that the Levites do not have an inheritance and are not expected to
have an inheritance so they were made to collect the tithe under the
supervision of the priest and they are to put it in the store which was
mentioned in the previous paragraphs. To be administered and used
by the people of Isreal as mentioned already. This practice continued
to the time of Jesus. At some point in time, the practice of issuance
from the stock was defiled. For example, the Levites at a point were
not given their portions by those Levites who where in charge of
sharing of the things in the store. This made some levites to go back
to tilt the land for a livelihood against their original purpose.
Nehemiah made some reshufflements in the tithe management
cabinet in order to preserve the essence of the Levites . The abuse of
tithes is not a new thing.
Malachi was also a Levite and decried that he will bear witness
against those who defraud the poor, the widows and the strangers.
This is in relation to the storehouse mentioned earlier especially for
those that were contributing the tithes and other offerings. He said
that wrong doers will be put on trial because they "deprive laborers of
their wages, they oppress the widows and the fatherless, and deprive
the foreigners among you of justice,”. It should be understood that the
levites were were primarily civil servants, readers of the books of the
law, teachers of the law, gate-keepers, singers etc. And their wages
were paid from the tithes/offerrings. Here Malachy decries that people
do not pay their tithes and offerings which forms the stock of store.
He calls this wrong as robbing God as it is from where the widows, the
poor, ophans are fed. He further encouraged the Isrealites to bring
their tithes and their offerings so that there may be food in the house
of the Lord. This He said He will send his blessings so that they will
have much more. (Malachi 3:9-11)
Conclusion: The new testament did not encourage payment of tithe. It
condemned the Pharasees for bragging about their payment of tithe
and not obeying the other laws. He said wore unto them. In todays
world, pastors and men of God should be careful when they call for
tithes. Tithes are meant, as we have seen, for the beterment of the
entirety of the widows, ophans, priests, church workers. It is also
meant to provide for education of the people and provision of food
and and health care. The closest of the contemporary item to tithe is
the tax that we pay monthly which Government uses to care for
people. If you evade tax payment, be sure that God will hold you
responible for the less priviledged. If you are a government official and
you mis-use taxpayers funds, God will hod you responsible. If you
collect tithes and you dont remit as was done in Isreal, God will hold
you responsible. The decision is yours.
You may wish to send me your private comments in my mail
dgdatong@yahoo.com or dgdatong@gmail.com

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Re: Should A Student Pay Tithe? by Nobody: 9:08am On Mar 10, 2013
Honestly I dont understand why many pastors say we're no more bound by old testament rules like divorce, indecent dressing etc but then emphasize on tithing
Re: Should A Student Pay Tithe? by gabbrri(m): 9:12am On Mar 10, 2013
this thite thing is rili getin into there head. Inmajin a pastor i did a job 4 refuses payin me sayin is shld take is as a thite gift. Is dat rite?
Re: Should A Student Pay Tithe? by Petraman(m): 9:13am On Mar 10, 2013
Valto: so people don mumu reach to even pay tithe on their school fees... how then are u going to complete it and pay the school fees
Don't mind them! They will go steal from GTBank
Re: Should A Student Pay Tithe? by Petraman(m): 9:17am On Mar 10, 2013
Joagbaje:

Every worshipper of God ought to honor God with tithe. Wise parents even pay tithe on behalf of the little babies
Are u now saying those that do not pay tithe on behalf of thier children are fools?
Re: Should A Student Pay Tithe? by curfew: 9:18am On Mar 10, 2013
a student should not only pay tithe but also bring sin offering, trespass offering, burnt offering, first fruit offering, wave offering, heave offering, drink offering, freewill offering, meat offering and peace offering to the modafcuka preacher.

"But the tithes of the children of Israel, which they offer as an heave offering unto the LORD, I have given to the Levites to inherit: therefore I have said unto them, Among the children of Israel they shall have no inheritance." (Numbers 18:24).

"And at that time were some appointed over the chambers for the treasures, for the offerings, for the firstfruits, and for the tithes, to gather into them out of the fields of the cities the portions of the law for the priests and Levites: for Judah rejoiced for the priests and for the Levites that waited." (Nehemiah 12:44).

and to them said HE

"Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it. And I will rebuke the devourer for your sakes, and he shall not destroy the fruits of your ground; neither shall your vine cast her fruit before the time in the field, saith the LORD of hosts." (Malachi 3:10-11).

"And the priest the son of Aaron shall be with the Levites, when the Levites take tithes: and the Levites shall bring up the tithe of the tithes unto the house of our God, to the chambers, into the treasure house." (Nehemiah 10:38).

CHRIST hadn't died. The old law obtained:
"Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. " (Matthew 23:23).

... the self-righteous tithe paying

"The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican. I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess. " (Luke 18:11-12).

"If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron? For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law. For he of whom these things are spoken pertaineth to another tribe, of which no man gave attendance at the altar." (Hebrews 7:11-13).

Tithe is a mosaic law.

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Re: Should A Student Pay Tithe? by Petraman(m): 9:22am On Mar 10, 2013
Pastor Kun:

Christians are not under any obligation to tithe in the first instance talkless of a student. The way tithes is preached today is at best a fraudulent manipulation of scripture. You may wish to read deut 14:22-29 to learn more about how God defined his tithes and compare to the version preached in churches today. That aside tithing was brought to an end for new covenant christians, you may wish to read Hebrews 7:5-19 in context and you would see were tithing was brought to and end for believers. special emphasis should be put on verse 5,11,12 & 18 when reading that scripture to get the message. God bless you as you read.
Indeed u're a pastor. If u're not into pastoral work, u better start now
Re: Should A Student Pay Tithe? by toolovely(m): 10:04am On Mar 10, 2013
I am a christian but I still don't believe a student should be paying tithe except d student is working at d same time. What's tithe? 1/10th ☀f ur income, harvest. What's an income? - money received by a person as wages. Meaning d person is working. So, is a student a worker? Besides, d pocket money that's giving to d student, d parents have already paid their tithe b4 giving 2 dia children-student.

Someone said tithing is a thing ☀f faith...that's a big lie. Its an obligation as a christian u must fulfil infact, its a commandment
Re: Should A Student Pay Tithe? by curfew: 10:09am On Mar 10, 2013
toolovely: I am a christian but I still don't believe a student should be paying tithe except d student is working at d same time. What's tithe? 1/10th ☀f ur income, harvest. What's an income? - money received by a person as wages. Meaning d person is working. So, is a student a worker? Besides, d pocket money that's giving to d student, d parents have already paid their tithe b4 giving 2 dia children-student.

Someone said tithing is a thing ☀f faith...that's a big lie. Its an obligation as a christian u must fulfil infact, its a commandment

tithing is a law, not any obligation. it is the law of moses.
Re: Should A Student Pay Tithe? by LADIbaba(m): 10:15am On Mar 10, 2013
Joagbaje:

Every worshipper of God ought to honor God with tithe. Wise parents even pay tithe on behalf of the little babies . So being a student doesn't make a difference . But you don't tithe on money given for specific purpose . Such as school fees or books. But you can tithe on pocket money and allowances

Please correct me if I am wrong, isn't the pocket money specific too i.e to be used for transportation within and outside campus+ phone calls+ feeding etc What tithe should a student pay in the real sense I believe its what you work hard and earn, you give part to GOD (if you wish to - nothing in Christianity is by force) I paid as a student doesn't make it right and doesn't mean I pay now I am working full time
Re: Should A Student Pay Tithe? by Nobody: 10:36am On Mar 10, 2013
@Joagbaje: , you know I am not one to judge, but it is becoming apparent that your livelihood depends on the tithe and because of that , you refuse to abandon this demonic principle.

Can I advice that you use your skills to get a real life job and stop fleecing the sheep.
Re: Should A Student Pay Tithe? by jidewin(m): 11:57am On Mar 10, 2013
I am clear and concise about this.STUDENT SHOULD NOT AND MUST NOT BE CONNIVED TO PAY TITHE.Capital NO!Tithe Is for those who wants to honor God with a portion of what they earn as income to them. As a student,you are given allowances to sustain your stay in school and not for shopping.Please,this issue of tithing have been so badly abused my men and women of Ministries (note I didn't say MOG/WOG),making it sound as if genuinely if you don't pay tithe you will go to hell, NO.
Re: Should A Student Pay Tithe? by mayorall(m): 12:14pm On Mar 10, 2013
Malachi 3 vs 10...bring ye al d tithes in2 my storhous,that dere mayb meat in mine aos, and prov me now herewit, saith d Lord of hosts, if I wl not open you d windows of heaven, and pour u out a blesn, dat dere shal nt b room enough to rcv it...

Meanin Payin tithes is a spiritual transaction..God z nt a begger and e doesn't nid your money 4 anytn..your money doesn't bles God..it bleses u...tithing z jst like bznes wt God..u invest litu and harvest mor...

When I entad higher institutn my popsy statd gvn me 2k out of his abundanc and even though d money z very smal, I statd payin my tithes wch z #200...God statd gvin me bznes ideas and I investd and developd dem....I stated making money on my own..after four months, my popsy increased my allowance to #10,000...since I av statd payin tithes, I avnt lackd any gd tin...TANK U JESUS...buh me no dey pay tithe with my school fees o...only allawee and money generated from my biz.......

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Re: Should A Student Pay Tithe? by Nobody: 4:10pm On Mar 10, 2013
^^^^

Ur father increasing ur allowance was just a coincidence. Remember God showers rain on d righteous and d unrighteous likewise sunshine. Those dat dont tithe still get business ideas .

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Re: Should A Student Pay Tithe? by alexleo(m): 4:22pm On Mar 10, 2013
akyus: How person go remove 10% of his school fees go pay tithe.
because of either ignorance or overzealousness or both.
Re: Should A Student Pay Tithe? by Nobody: 4:55pm On Mar 10, 2013
Segeggs: ^^^^

Ur father increasing ur allowance was just a coincidence. Remember God showers rain on d righteous and d unrighteous likewise sunshine. Those dat dont tithe still get business ideas .
there is nothing like coincidence..It is either your honor God who gives you wealth or you honor satan who also give wealth. you can't eat your cake and have it. The spiritual laws always determines what happens in the physical. God is not mocked.
Re: Should A Student Pay Tithe? by AdexOmoby(f): 5:58pm On Mar 10, 2013
shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked grin
Re: Should A Student Pay Tithe? by PastorKun(m): 6:28pm On Mar 10, 2013
AdexOmoby:
I had a personal encounter wt God and this made me to take the decision of paying tithe on any money given me as gift, salary except money for specific purposes such as school fees etc.
With this experince that I had, I belive not paying my tithe was like I was stealing frm God and I can not expect God to open the windows of heaven on me or rebuke the devourer for my sake if you dont give him a 10th of your earnings. Please note that this is my experince, peuliar to me and not to anyone.
I am somebody who saves very well. I could starve my self to save money! Once I make up my mind to save money, I achieve it or something close! Those who I am close too could attest to it and so while working during my youth service, I had a goal of having 150,000 as my earnings at the end of the year. Even though I didnt make 150k at the end of the year, I had saved up to 114,000. I wasnt paying my tithe and I thot it didnt matter. Afterall, who knows what others do with our tithes? Unfortunately, at the end of the year, I was robbed in the most mischeivous circumstances and all the money I had saved vanished(As many that are familiar with Lagos knows how people could be jazzed. I was! I was made to say my atm code(I had 100,000 in one account and 10,000 in another while I had 4,000 at hand)and drop my two fones and money in my pocket). After all the tears ,cries and asking God, family sympathizing with me and all that, I had to look inward and ask myself why it could have hapened...Afterall, there is a yoruba proverb that says that unless the wall is open, a lizard can not enter...There must have been something in my life that would have made the incidence to happen to me...The devil must have been able to attack me because there was a loophole in my life. Why didnt God rebuke the destroyer for me? I know the way God speaks to me...So when God told me everything that happend was because I cant cheat him, I knew where I went wrong. I never really paid my tithes. I never paid those 1,980 on top of the 19800 I receieved as a corper and the 2500 of the 25000 I received serving in my PPA. Yet, I was able to save 114,000 and thought I could have it all to my self...I apologized to God and made Him that promise that as from that day onward, I would not only pay my tithe from my salary but also pay a tenth of any money I receive as a gift and I must confess to you, God has blessed me beyond what I could ever ever save. Recently, I did a job for someone for £20 pounds and gave God £2. At some point,I was forced to admit that the money is small, but remebering my vow, joy filled my heart!
This is my personal encounter, you may not beleive me or it may not work for you but this has been working for me and right now God so blesses me that I give Him my tithe every sunday in church, nomatter aw small. What of when I did a job and earned £5, I gave God 50p. Its not my business to know what the pastor does with it! Afterall, everyone would have stand on the judgement seat of God. My business is to continue to fulfill the vow I made to God and see Him bless me beyond my dreams.I rest my case!


In short you are telling us that God sent robbers after you to collect his tithes which you didn't give to him SMH The fact remains that whether you tithe or not you could still have been robbed. Even churches that collect tithes get robbed so don't mis led that you got robbed because you din't pay tithe that God doesn't require from you in the first instance.
Re: Should A Student Pay Tithe? by Nobody: 7:54pm On Mar 10, 2013
Bidam: there is nothing like coincidence..It is either your honor God who gives you wealth or you honor satan who also give wealth. you can't eat your cake and have it. The spiritual laws always determines what happens in the physical. God is not mocked.
what about atheist who dont believe in a god nor satan?arent they millionaires among them?if u have fallen sick,faced failure ,disapointment,gone broke etc at some point in time,then u should know dat tithe is no more a protector as d devourer is still close to u. Jesus should be ur saviour not money cos claiming to have come clean of d above mentioned due to tithe means u are glorifying money(urself) instead of God. You never said dat though but u implied it and dat shows d damage tithe is doing to God's glory.
Re: Should A Student Pay Tithe? by WuzilistiQ(m): 8:51pm On Mar 10, 2013
Well i think this is a very good discussion that my network(MTN) had allowed me to join i must say thank you, i have had series of LIVE argument about this matter and when you trace the people standing in favor of the student-tithting you will come to find out that they represent a new generation church, in my opinion i think we need to tell ourself the truth, and the truth starts from the heart which has to be pure, for if the heart is not pure then we tend to excite our energy on this matter in vain.

Now a student is expected to go to school, if a student(from a poor background) is under his/her parents i think their tithe covers the family, God is not a greedy God, He knows your limits, so we should try to do our best, when that child grows he or she will become responsible for the tithting obligations and not their children.

Most of this churches have nothing to do with your salvation what they preach all day is properity that will be in connection to your tithes and offerings, most churches are far away from the truth, selling the ideas of ''give first to be blessed later'', don't get me wrong it works only if we follow the footsteps of Hanna in the bible. she (Hanna)took her time to observe her church members and gave them anything she happen to find out from her observations which they lack, raging from clothes, food, medicine, shelter e.t.c . So i think we should in our own way do what is right, which is never to force one to do the least of the doctorines, 1. Be born again, 2. Maintian your faith by keeping the Ten commandment(i dont see tithe on the plate) finally make yourself fishers of men by reflecting the word of God of peaceful coexistence.....
Re: Should A Student Pay Tithe? by Nobody: 9:15pm On Mar 10, 2013
Segeggs: what about atheist who dont believe in a god nor satan?arent they millionaires among them?if u have fallen sick,faced failure ,disapointment,gone broke etc at some point in time,then u should know dat tithe is no more a protector as d devourer is still close to u. Jesus should be ur saviour not money cos claiming to have come clean of d above mentioned due to tithe means u are glorifying money(urself) instead of God. You never said dat though but u implied it and dat shows d damage tithe is doing to God's glory.
Don't be deceived, atheist are still under satan's rule whether they like it or not cos he is the god of this world, one way or the other they still pay back o him whether they no it or not..bro don't be carnal in your thinking try and be matured. tithes is even the least of what i do in God's kingdom and i do it sweatlessly with all humility. Giving to me is the only proof you have conquered greed. you have the wrong impression of me that i collect tithes abi..far from it. I just obey what the Spirit if God tells me to do and that makes me smarter than those who rebel the voice of the Spirit. Christ paid the penalty once and for all...but don't kid yourself that the principle of giving is not biblical...whether we call it tithes/offerings/collection/seeds etc..It is still giving. apply it to your life and you will be surprised.
Re: Should A Student Pay Tithe? by Chomzy19(f): 9:38pm On Mar 10, 2013
toolovely: I am a christian but I still don't believe a student should be paying tithe except d student is working at d same time. What's tithe? 1/10th ☀f ur income, harvest. What's an income? - money received by a person as wages. Meaning d person is working. So, is a student a worker? Besides, d pocket money that's giving to d student, d parents have already paid their tithe b4 giving 2 dia children-student.

Someone said tithing is a thing ☀f faith...that's a big lie. Its an obligation as a christian u must fulfil infact, its a commandment
the 11th commandment as given by toollovely, yet christ in all his sermons and parablles and teachings nevr preeached 'pay ur tithe' y do u think he failed to mention blessed are the tithe payers for they shall inherit in manifold what they give? Or do u think he omitted to teach us sth in all his stay on earth, could christ hv made such a costly omission

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Re: Should A Student Pay Tithe? by Valto(m): 10:07pm On Mar 10, 2013
Chomzy19: the 11th commandment as given by toollovely, yet christ in all his sermons and parablles and teachings nevr preeached 'pay ur tithe' y do u think he failed to mention blessed are the tithe payers for they shall inherit in manifold what they give? Or do u think he omitted to teach us sth in all his stay on earth, could christ hv made such a costly omission
gbam!.. jesus never preached about it, but our new generation pastors preaches more about it this days cos of their greed
Re: Should A Student Pay Tithe? by tpia5: 11:21pm On Mar 10, 2013
Pastor Kun:


In short you are telling us that God sent robbers after you to collect his tithes which you didn't give to him SMH The fact remains that whether you tithe or not you could still have been robbed. Even churches that collect tithes get robbed so don't mis led that you got robbed because you din't pay tithe that God doesn't require from you in the first instance.

could be people sending robbers to collect the tithe.
Re: Should A Student Pay Tithe? by AdexOmoby(f): 12:05am On Mar 11, 2013
The truth would be revelaed on the last day...But then, hope it would not be too late for some?
Re: Should A Student Pay Tithe? by ogunsam75(m): 12:33am On Mar 11, 2013
frosbel:

you mean your god of mammon ?
did u obey all d God's commandment in d bible? How many times have u make atonement for your sin by killing rams and cows on d altar of God? I know by the time u want to do so, ur pastor will tell u is a mosaic law, but he will not tell u tithe is mosaic law
Re: Should A Student Pay Tithe? by ogunsam75(m): 12:37am On Mar 11, 2013
ifihearam:

Thou art a deceiver. Of the brethren
if d guy is wrong, then proof t! OLODO!
Re: Should A Student Pay Tithe? by mike98989gmail: 2:15am On Mar 11, 2013
Tithing is not a law in the bible, so its not a "must to do thing".... In the bible God didn't specify whether student should pay or not(Mal. 3:10).... If you want to experience the blessings of tithing even as a student you can tithe so far its a revelation to you... If you want the windows of heaven to be opened to you as a student, i will advice you to tithe... I am a student and I do tithe and I have seen the windows of heaven opened to me in my business and career. So don't criticize what you don't understand... If its not a revelation to you, Don't preach it or do it...(But don't tithe from your school fees it is wrong because your school fees is not yours).

If you do not tithe you are still gonna be blessed by God. God respects people who do not make money their source. (Note this: A man who can't tithe and thinks he can give to the poor, ends up not even giving to the poor at all...)

Tithing helps you and not your Pastor or God...(I noticed that each time I dont pay tithe, I end up spending my money without giving a good account of it, but each time I pay my tithe, It makes me plan what I will do with the rest effective (There's is blessing in tithing be wise:::: Know that the devil can never tell you to give or pay tithe)
Re: Should A Student Pay Tithe? by Nobody: 5:22am On Mar 11, 2013
@Bidam
if u say jesus paid it all,why are u still paying? Do u know what christianity is? It is total freedom from burden and d curse of the law. Try not to pay tithe for a year and u will realise nothing will change negatively about u.it is voice man and ur inner greed u are obeying not God. God's tithe in d bible is different from what u actually practice.

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