coogar:

who says being a man hurts other people? are you living in a parallel universe?

fellis:
Please explain this statement.

Apart from religions what other reasons do you have for believing that women are below men?

fellis:
Being 'the man' implies subjecting the 'not-the-man' to your will. (since you said you're the authority)
Nobody likes being controlled coogar. People get hurt when you force them to do what you want and not what they want.

coogar:

physically, men are stronger.
if the strongest man and the strongest woman in the world engage in fisticuffs, the man would win all the time.

coogar:

having the authority is different from being a tyrant. parents have the authority but do they really force their wards to do what they don't want to?

fellis:
So strength is what makes men superior to women? It's not maybe intelligence or hardworking nature or people skills? Is John Cena (the wrestler) superior to you? Because he is stronger than you. . . .

coogar:
just one arm of it - men are more intelligent than women.

men are stronger than women. don't use john cena as example. superiority back in the days was all about survival. survival = strength! to rule over your neighbours, there has to be strength. as at the time jesus was born, the greeks(greatest philosophers in the world) have not even decided yet whether women are humans or not.

fellis:
Is my aboki maiguard more intelligent than your mother? Because my aboki maiguard is a man and your mother is a woman. No offense meant, I am just curious.

@bold,
Yes. BACK IN THE STONE AGES and before we got to the point we are today. Times have changed. Why do you want to keep following the way of life of the civilizations past?

Strength no longer determines superiority coogar, intelligence does. The US of A is not a world power today because they have the most physically strongest people in the world.

coogar:
the question is daft cos i expect you to compare like for like. an aboki maiguard would be more intelligent than an aboki female: that's set in stone. when i said men are generally more intelligent than women then it's in the context of a level playing field and not comparing an educated woman to a man that never went to school!

there's no present and future without the past. if your great grandparents didnt häve sex, you would not exist.

strength is superiority!
the USA is a world power because they have one of the strongest military in the world. that's the way it is. there's a direct link between physical strength and superiority. why can USA go to iraq, afghan, etc and not togo, benin republic or botswana?

fellis: xxxxxxx

The practical implications of Flynn's data remain unclear, especially because many education experts have criticized IQ tests for only measuring the ability to give the textbook correct answer to a question and ignoring more creative types of thinking.

fellis:
Calm down.
At first, you said that men are more intelligent than women, you never said anything about level playing field before.
Ok, since you claimed that men are smarter than women in the context of a level playing field then how do you explain this research that shows that women are smarter than men?

I really don't understand how this statement is related to what I said before. So because there is no future without a past that means we should continue to live the way we lived in the stone ages? We shouldn't advance ourselves or develop ourselves?

Fine, there is no present or future without a past but times change. Attitudes change and cultures change to suit the times. Women are now exposed to the same opportunities as men and have proven themselves capable of doing the things men do (except of course those things that require strength but men cannot bear children like women so I think that balances it out). So why must women remain subjected to men?

Strongest military does not imply physical strength which you said was the determining factor for superiority. There are many things that makes the US military one of the strongest in the world and physical strength is only a tiny part of them. They have high tech weapons which required intelligence to create and keep secret from allies, they carry out stealth operations and these things also require intelligence.

Besides, having a strong military is not the only thing that makes the US a world power. They regulate people's opinions with propaganda and they carry out espionage, actively monitor the progress of their rivals and allies and these things require intelligence, not strength.

Strength is not superiority, a number of things should be taken into consideration before you can conclude that one person is superior to another.

If strength was superiority then lions or elephants will be on top of the food chain today instead of humans

maclatunji: @Fellis.

biolabee:
you quoted a dodgy research, did you actually read the article
Except below:

fellis:
Of course the iq test has its own critics and flaws, everything that was created by humans has flaws.
And yes, Iq testing only measures one type of intelligence out of the different types of intelligence. It measures the logical or mathmathical type of intelligence and this is a very great type of intelligence to possess. It enables us to perceive relationships and connections and to use abstract sequential thinking, inductive and deductive reasoning.
It measures a very important type of intelligence and it isn't useless or dodgy.

coogar:
for every dodgy research you can scoop out that makes women smarter, i would bring out 10. it's not about research with crude methodologies.

just look around and you would notice that einstein, newton, dalton, nostradamus, alexander graham bell, faraday, archimedes and benjamin franklin never had wombs.

also
we have developed as humans but the female anatomy still remains the same. men are physically stronger, generally taller with a bigger bone mass and a bigger brain size than women. it's a travesty that i have to point this out to you.

that's the thing though - women have proven themselves capable so have animals too - it's just an advancement for both sexes and species. it does not mean men are women are equal. we don't even have the same brain size to start with, how then can we be the same? so the fact that women can bear children means they are stronger than men? you make me laugh!!!

high tech weaponry is strength.
this is a country of 300 million population with the biggest, tallest people on the planet. how isn't that strength?



they can do all that because they are strong!
they have a huge military personnel - the strength gives them the opportunity to make supernova weapons they need to conquer or rule over other countries in the minority.



strength is superiority
if i am stronger than you then i am superior. the roman empire ruled for 1000 years through sheer strength, capturing slaves and trading them. the british empire also ruled through sheer strength colonising half of the world. it's not like they brainwashed their colonies, they fought them on the battlefield and conquered and it's the reason you and i are communicating in their language till date.

another daft analogy....
humans are more intelligent than animals and with the use of weaponry humans have been able to conquer animals. this is discounting men who have actually faced lions in a combat and killed lions with bare arms.

fellis:
My research is not dodgy, neither was it done with crude methodologies. It was carried out by a very prestigious organisation and it involved participants from different countries. The fact that you don't like the test results doesn't mean the test is dodgy.

Up untill the early 21st century, women were traditionally expected to stay at home and run the house front and so they didn't have the incentive to invent or discover like the men were doing. It doesn't mean that women were not intelligent. There was the 'Married woman property act' and until it was passed into law, married women were prevented from doing whatever they please with their property and their husbands owned and controlled both them and their property and this was something that decreased the incentive to work in women.

Bigger brains does not equal more intelligence. Early humans had bigger brains but were not as intelligent as we are. Also women can conceive and give birth. Men can't. This is a strong point they have over you.

Abeg military strength is not physical strength. Stop trying to make it seem like it is. Africa as a whole has more population than the USA so why are they not a world power? You need intelligence to gather an army and keep it togethe and you need intelligence to build high tech weapons to advance that army and keep them superior to others.

How did humans create the specialized weapons they used to defeat animals? Isn't it with intelligence?
FOH with your desperate and meaningless arguments

fellis:
Why you smiling mac?

maclatunji:
Just wondering when you will stop having this debate about men and women. You insist on being treated exactly like a man. We are not the same, I have told you severally, that doesn't make you inferior.

coogar:

if one is not equal to the other then one is superior than the other(regardless of how much)? 4 is not 5, 5 is superior to 4.

women and men are not the same - even a kid of 9 knows that. 99% of the similarities between a chimp and humans are concentrated on the X chromosomes. however, there's 30% difference in the Y chromosomes of humans and chimps. men are the superior gender!

coogar:

i would have loved to marry an older woman but ex-boyfriends, ex-husbands, children, ex-step-children, pending divorces, business pressures, financial obligations, and debts can often be part of the package.

fellis: @coogar I used Africa and USA as examples because I wanted to compare two areas with similar land mass.

1 Gender is not a measure of intelligence so cut it out with that bullshit about men being more intelligent than women. I only posted that research to shut you up about your idiotic claim that men are more intelligent.
There are different types of intelligence and if you can't prove that men surpass women in every single type of intelligence ie linguistic, interpersonal, musical, logical etc, then shut the hell up about men being more intelligent.

2. About your Y and X chromosome theory; the Y chromosome you claimed is so superior and magnificient contains less DNA material than the X chromosome is dying away/fading from existence. Why is it disappearing when the X is still going strong? Besides, the Y chromosomes have played virtually the same role as X chromosomes in evolution. I don't know where you get your science 'facts' from.
Read here
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/MensHealthNews/story?id=8104217&page=1

4. Women have smaller brains on average because they have smaller bodies. Their brains are in proportion to their bodies.
Also, women have more white matter than men in their brains which make them better than men in communicating and problem solving. Read it up.

Lilimax: I have a female friend that is older than her husband with 5yrs.
They are living peacefuly and there marriage is blessed with two Children.
Age is just a number.
There is an adage...the age of Methuselah has nothing to do with the wisdom of Solomon

InvertedHammer:

Rat wey follow lizard dey shakara for rain, na Flavor "oyi" go get am.

Every_LadY: Tgirl4real come see as coogar and fellis don derail ur thread finish.

biolabee:

You should not have quoted it to prove women are smarter than man or even granted the coogar the debate on who is smarter

Smartness is not a function of gender but knowlege and exposure mainly

You guys have derailed the topic which was simple

would a man marry an older woman

Not holding brief for coogar but his point was simple, whether he marries a 20 or 1000 year old woman; he will always BE THE MAN IN THE RELATIONSHIP

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