Afam4eva:
I quoted a part of the bible that says that jesus is the only intercessor which invariably means that no one else can assume that status. So, these questions don't make sense except you can tell me where the bible says we should sing low as opposed to singly loud or where the bible says we shoult not shout the blood of Jesus. These things were invented by humans without scriptural backings but that doesn't mean it's wrong to do these things. It's different from going against what the bible says.

swaggzo: is that what your own mother Mary looks like?. as smallish and shorter than a single window pane?
haba guys.. you don't need a wolves nose to smell or sense the dead fouls play from that so called appiration image. I can even draw that with my pee!

Beey: But Mary isn't the only woman in the Bible that received angelic visitation.What of Elizabeth & Samson's mother??What shall we say of Moses that saw God at the mountain?He's the only one in the Bible & that makes him very special.Should we know start asking him to pray for us?Come out of idolatry.

CAMEROONPRIDE: lol hypocrites. if u must follow the bible do it to the fullest , going by your logic what's is not written in the bible is forbidden , no?

Afam4eva:
You're shifting goal post. The thread is about Mary's image been cited in Edo state and i said since we don't know what the real Mary looks like, we can't say it's Mary's image but we can say it's "Accepted Mary's image" or some thing else. I'm not in anyway against those images. I'm just saying that they should remain what they are "Representations".

CAMEROONPRIDE: well i'm the one who called it representation . so how am i shifting anything ?

agbalej: I was in d church when all of a sudden, d image started appearin on d wall. We were all amazed at d sight of it, as i was seated right there where d image is. I jst came back frm dia nw n d image is stil present. We r nt 2 judge, b b dt as it may, i ve 2 things in mind. Its is eida such is 2 prove dt dia s power in d Catholic church, or dt d people ve sinned. Until d air is cleared on ds by d church, i refuse 2 judge. Besides, in d days of Jesus Christ, dia ws Doubtin Thomas! I am a native of Ubiaja, i saw it myself.

Afam4eva:
Where did i make such an assertion. Stop running away from the truth. If jesus says we must pray in his name and we go and start praying in another person's name, it's wrong. But if Jesus doesn't say so, then if we decide to pray in the name of people we honour, God will not hold it against us because it was not explicitly written on whose name we should pray.

Adamskuty: dont be decieved,it's the devil image you guys saw

CAMEROONPRIDE: A saying that is well known among Catholics is, "To Jesus, through Mary." This does not mean, "To Mary, through Jesus." Nor does it mean, "To Jesus and to Mary." This saying affirms that Catholics do not pray "to" Mary as an equal to God. They pray "through" Mary as an intercessor who prays to God on behalf of mankind.

If Catholics were to pray to Mary, this would imply that they are worshipping her as a god. But Catholics do not perceive Mary as a god. (i) They honour the Blessed Virgin Mary. (ii) The view Mary as the holiest of all the Saints. (iii) The accept the fact that Mary is the most successful Saint at obtaining Divine favours through her intercession

Afam4eva:
You're claiming that i'm against those representations whereas i was specifically referring to the way catholics carry Mary.

Afam4eva:
What does it mean to honour Mary? is she the only one that worth honoring? It sure sounds like you're worhiping her though you say you honour her and the bolded statement just shows that you guys kinda see her as a God .

CAMEROONPRIDE: Mary is important to Catholic and they honor her .what's wrong with and why does it bother u? mary interced for the people of Canaan . Jesus himself said his time was yet to come but Mary(that u called mere conduct to bring Jesus on earth) was the one who convinced him and made him accomplish his first miracle. if he wasn't for her Jesus wouldn't help them .

Afam4eva:
But the question now is, did the bible say we can pray to Mary as an intercessor? Pls i need an answer

Did the bible specifically say that we have to pray to Jesus to intercede on our behalf. Yes or No?

Everything we need to know is in the bible. I don't know why we keep adding salt and pepper to Christianity.

CAMEROONPRIDE: scriptures . it doesn't have to b explicit or in full word, how do u call what happened in Canaan?
Mary interceding for Human is in the bible .so what's ur problem?

Afam4eva:
Honoring her is different from praying to her and also telling her to intercede on your behalf. It's the part where you guys pray to her and ask her to intercede that i have a grouse with. is it biblical?

Afam4eva:
Thank you for admitting this. Now tell me what part of the bible that is.

CAMEROONPRIDE: so u don't know?

Afam4eva:
Honoring her is different from praying to her and also telling her to intercede on your behalf. It's the part where you guys pray to her and ask her to intercede that i have a grouse with. is it biblical?

Afam4eva:
No, i don't Direct me.

chukwudi44:

The catholic church does not practice sola bible doctrine.The doctrine itself has no scriptural basis and was only a creation of martin luther in the sixteenth century.The catholic church had existed for more than 300 years before the bible was compiled in the late fourth century.

Once a practice and teaching have been verified by the church through the inspiration of the holy spirit.It would be applied in the church even though it is not in the bible provided it does not contradict any biblical teaching.

CAMEROONPRIDE:

Though she enjoys the glory of heaven, the Virgin Mary is still lovingly concerned with the struggles of Christ's Body on earth. So she constantly prays for our needs with a mother's love.


Mary's intercession is entirely dependent on Jesus' role as the great Mediator (I Timothy 2:5). He is the One Way to the Father (John 14:6), all prayers to the Father must go through Him. Mary's prayers are no exception; she, too, prays to the Father in Jesus' Name.



We see a biblical example of Mary's intercession at the Wedding Feast in Cana (John 2:1-11). Mary notices that the couple has run out of wine, so she asks Jesus to help them (vs 2). Jesus agrees to do it, only He wants to keep it quiet because it is not yet time for Him to manifest Himself as Messiah (vs. 4). So she tells the servants to do whatever Jesus tells them to (vs 5), and He performs the miracle. Jesus helped that young couple because His Mother interceded for them! As she did on earth, she continues to do in heaven, and if He listened to her then, surely He will listen to her requests now.

Belief that the saints in heaven intercede for us is biblical! The Book of Revelation portrays the twenty-four elders as offering our prayers to God like incense (Revelation 5:. Those who sleep in Christ are still members of His Body, as are we. So we can ask them to pray for us the same way we would ask a fellow Christian on earth to pray for us.

Mary, of course, is a resurrected saint, as we saw in the article on the Assumption. She, too, is a member of the Body of Christ, so she, too, offers our prayers before the Throne of Grace

Afam4eva:
But in this case it actually contradicts the bible.

HARDEYLEKE:

What is this one saying?

Afam4eva:

Mary interceding fo anyone is no different from Afam interceding for CAMEROONPRIDE. But you won't go down in prayer and say "Holy Afam, nwa Chineke(Son of God), intercede for me"

CAMEROONPRIDE: sorry , I don't debate with protestants ..I look down on u , bunch of soulless people . u are clueless and clearly don't know how to defend your rebellion .



Catholic believe In holy trinity .

God the son God the Father and the holy spirit
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Jesus is GOD in the Catholic church
Mary is the mother of JEsus so she is the mother of God

u are free to believe in it or say it doesn't make any sense ...Catholic don't care , u are entitled to your opinion , after all u believe in judgment day and that water can be turned to wine . so bug off and start questioning your Anglican church which foundations come from the selfish interests of a man who wanted to divorce. Mba

CAMEROONPRIDE::

A saying that is well known among Catholics is, "To Jesus, through Mary." This does not mean, "To Mary, through Jesus." Nor does it mean, "To Jesus and to Mary." This saying affirms that Catholics do not pray "to" Mary as an equal to God. They pray "through" Mary as an intercessor who prays to God on behalf of mankind.

If Catholics were to pray to Mary, this would imply that they are worshipping her as a god. But Catholics do not perceive Mary as a god. (i) They honour the Blessed Virgin Mary. (ii) The view Mary as the holiest of all the Saints. (iii) The accept the fact that Mary is the most successful Saint at obtaining Divine favours through her intercession.