Reincarnated:

Not with this definition they don't exist. I think over the years, the definition of ghost has seceded from what it used to mean because then that will mean the Holy Ghost was once human.

Anyways, I don't think these "termed ghosts" exist

haibe:

can you show me where the bible said saul talked to a ghost?

but mr man why are you dodging my question, Jesus said he wasn't a ghost, what is your definition of this ghost, is it a dead man apparition or spirit like God?

haibe: They thought they saw spirit(ghost) doesn't mean spirits exist.

Saul saw samuel's ghost doesn't mean it was actually samuel.

We have wizard here and there who help to invoke the dead to speak with the living, demons can deceive human beings to think they are their relatives but that doesn't mean they are actually their relatives.

The belief of ghosts have been in place even till today, the disciples lived in an environment where people believed in ghosts and so when they saw someone who was dead face to face, the first thought that would come to them is that this is a ghost according to the belief system, and so Jesus told them he wasn't a ghost like they think, simple.

So ghosts do not actually exist, devil can only make someone feel he is seeing a dead relative of his but he is actually dead in the grave.

haibe: @itsfact am I your bible? you said the bible said saul TALKED with samuel and I said show me that from the bible.

where in my post did I say saul TALKED with samuel?

dont you have a bible verse to back your point?

Itsfacts:

you said he talked with Samuel ghost and you are asking me to say where he talked to Samuel.

oboy he talked to a ghost or rightly said a spirit. That spirit pose as Samuel.

Itsfacts:
People meet spirit medium in the bible they talk to a ghost which is a demon. Saul did it. He talk to a spirit or ghost.

Itsfacts: He was talking to a ghost and not the spirit of Samuel.

haibe: Jesus said he wasn't a ghost, what is your definitionof this ghost, is it a dead man apparition or spirit like God?

please answer this, I want to tackle this issue you have here before going to bed.

haibe:

Jesus!! where in that post did I say saul TALKED with samuel ghost.

So are you even depending on my point, so you didn't see that in the bible and you said it confidently? lol.

haibe:

am waiting for a reply, I want to go to bed

Itsfacts:

are you serious?
1: you said he saw Samuel ghost. Later you said not ghost but he perceived Samuel. Which makes no sense on his own. Saul saw the spirit the woman invoke and recognized it to be Samuel that is what perceived means.

2: now you are asking where did you say he talked to Samuel.
your post clearly states he saw Samuels ghost. Then still on your post you said the woman invoke the dead to speak with the living. What does that mean? Are you not saying Saul talk to the spirit she brought for him? That spirit of a demon.

Itsfacts:

answered questions still coming Stop repeating

Itsfacts:

are you serious?
1: you said he saw Samuel ghost. Later you said not ghost but he perceived Samuel. Which makes no sense on his own. Saul saw the spirit the woman invoke and recognized it to be Samuel that is what perceived means.

haibe:

Excuse me don't you have a bible verse to support your claim, you said the bible said saul TALKED with samuel and I want to know where that is in the bible, please show me, we learn everyday and I want to know where that is in the bible.

Itsfacts:

Saul talk to what he believe. And i keep saying it is not Samuel but the devil. If you asked saul he is talking to Samuel.
bible says he perceived it was Samuel. Why are you so persistent?
he was deceived. This is easy to understand.
go check all my post i keep telling you that he was deceived.

haibe:

okay what does your own bible say, the kjv uses perceive, some other versions use recognize

Itsfacts:
People meet spirit medium in the bible they talk to a ghost which is a demon. Saul did it. He talk to a spirit or ghost.

Itsfacts:

look the woman bring the fake spirit, Saul saw it and perceived it was Samuel. He apprehend it was Samuel she invoke. Why you ne dey understand?

Itsfacts:
People meet spirit medium in the bible they TALK to a ghost which is a demon. Saul did it. He TALK to a spirit or ghost.

haibe:

you are now changing it to perceive, after saying the bible says saul TALKED to samuel. you won't cease to amaze me.

do you know the difference between talking to someone and to perceive something?

haibe:
okay I didn't get your answer.

what did Jesus mean by ghost? a spirit being(God angels ) or an apparition of the dead??

Itsfacts:

changed what? Go and understand what perceived mean. The post you reply to i still say he talked to Samuel so what am i changing?

haibe:

so how can you explain this:

haibe:

here is what perceive mean:

per·ceive /pərˈsēv/
Verb: 1. Become aware or conscious of (something); come to realize or understand

2. Become aware of (something) by the use of one of the senses, esp. that of sight

how does perceive mean to talk to?

Itsfacts:

what did the ghost tell him? That he and his son will die and join them. That same ghost said the woman have the power to bring him back to life. Is that not talking to the spirit?

the Saul not say God will not answer him?
did the spirit not asked Saul why have you disturbed me?
you don't understand what perceive me.
you wan identify a killer in jail. I bring up a guy and ask is it him? You perceived he is the killer or you apprehend or recognize he is the killer. Na this too hard for you to swallow?

Itsfacts:

so he understand Samuel or he became aware of Samuel? Or he understand that the spirit the woman bring for him was Samuel? Or he was aware the spirit she bring for him was Samuel? Understand that simple word my man.

Itsfacts: Show me where i talk am say perceive means talk to?

Itsfacts:
People meet spirit medium in the bible they TALK to a ghost which is a demon. Saul did it. He TALK to a spirit or ghost.

haibe:

this is where you said saul TALKED to samuel.

Itsfacts:

you my man is confused

haibe:
okay I didn't get your answer.

what did Jesus mean by ghost? a spirit being(God angels ) or an apparition of the dead??