macof: Personally I dont sunscribe to the Oba of Benin story that Odududwa was from Uselu(former name of benin), when Oduduwa came he didnt come with any army. He came alone(wearing a royal attire) The Ife people believed he was the man of prophecy and accepted him as the first king of Ife.

before the expansion of the Yoruba nation from Ife to the current landmass, Ife people lived around in places like Iwo, Idanre etc which are in the east of Ife. Oduduwa come have been born in any of these places.

The birthplace of Oududuwa is still a mystery

macof: https://www.nairaland.com/1509799/only-fool-says-there-no
Christians are fools

macof: Personally I dont sunscribe to the Oba of Benin story that Odududwa was from Uselu(former name of benin), when Oduduwa came he didnt come with any army. He came alone(wearing a royal attire) The Ife people believed he was the man of prophecy, a prince of heaven and accepted him as the first king of Ife.

before the expansion of the Yoruba nation from Ife to the current landmass, Ife people lived around in places like Iwo, Idanre etc which are in the east of Ife. Oduduwa come have been born in any of these places.

The birthplace of Oududuwa is still a mystery

Mr President:

Oduduwa did not come alone. He led his people to Ile-ife where they met people like Setilu (Agboniregun) who taught him Ifa.

There are various accounts but the general consensus is that the ancient Israelites were dark-skinned and this is provable by asking yourself one or two questions;

1 How did Moses survive in the court of Pharaoh as a (white skinned?) baby, we know that the ancient Egyptians are dark skinned.
2 Why was Paul the apostle called an Ethiopian in Acts 21:38 Art not thou that Egyptian, which before these days madest an uproar, and leddest out into the wilderness four thousand men that were murderers?

I am begining to suspect that folake is not an Israelite. As a believer in reincarnation, I strongly suspect that he is one of indigenous people Oduduwa met at Ile-ife. This explains his strong opposition to reason.

macof: maybe I am

hey check out these threads https://www.nairaland.com/1508769/christians-god-idol-hills
https://www.nairaland.com/1503699/christianity-things-arent-really-known

FOLYKAZE: Mr President.

We are waiting for you to explain how Oduduwa from east appear in creation story.

And tell us why Oba of benin heads sleep in Ife. Abi na Israeli kings head sleeping in Ife?

Ogosi mean king from the sky. That was the title bini people gave their kings. So it glaring why Yoruba people Oduduwa was from the sky. And considering the east.....is benin not east to Ife? Dem don brainwash you bros.

FOLYKAZE:

Oga deal with the question directed to you. I hate dodging around bush.

Why did Benin or Edos allowed the last child of Oduduwa to be made a king over them or his descendants through Eweka 1st, if there was no blue blood connection?

Why are Oba of bini head sleeping in Ife?

Who is prince Ekaladerhan of Ogosi (king from the sky)?

How does Oduduwa reappear in creation story again? Any difference between the creation and the historical fact?


You are rambling folake. Why dont you google up the information. I have done justice to this thread by proving to you, through the custodians of Yoruba traditional history and culture-The Ogboni, that the Yoruba were originally monotheistic and believed in The Supreme Creator.

Idolatry was the reason they (and all other negroes) were cursed into Africa and also dispersed to all corners of the earth. I leave you to your ramblings, you have just solidified my convictions about you. You are not truly Yoruba.

This thread is for the seeker who will find it later.

How did Eko came?

Answer and lets roll. I wont accept running this second time o. Lol

Mr President:

East is Middle east, it is the cradle of humanity and it is contiguous with Africa. That is where life began and that is where Oduduwa came from. The Yoruba will always tell you they came from the East. It does not mean eastward of western Nigeria.

Oduduwa arrived at Ile-ife with a multitude of people. This is elementary history.

FOLYKAZE:

Oga deal with the question directed to you. I hate dodging around bush.

Why did Benin or Edos allowed the last child of Oduduwa to be made a king over them or his descendants through Eweka 1st, if there was no blue blood connection?

Why are Oba of bini head sleeping in Ife?

Who is prince Ekaladerhan of Ogosi (king from the sky)?

How does Oduduwa reappear in creation story again? Any difference between the creation and the historical fact?


How did Eko came?

Answer and lets roll. I wont accept running this second time o. Lol

Mr President: .

Mr President:

You are rambling folake. Why dont you google up the information. I have done justice to this thread by proving to you, through the custodians of Yoruba traditional history and culture-The Ogboni, that the Yoruba were originally monotheistic and believed in The Supreme Creator.

Idolatry was the reason they (and all other negroes) were cursed into Africa and also dispersed to all corners of the earth.

I leave you to your ramblings, you have just solidified my convictions about you. You are not truly Yoruba.

This thread is for the seeker who will find it later.

Mr President:

Oduduwa did not come alone. He led his people to Ile-ife where they met people like Setilu (Agboniregun) who taught him Ifa.

There are various accounts but the general consensus is that the ancient Israelites were dark-skinned and this is provable by asking yourself one or two questions;

1 How did Moses survive in the court of Pharaoh as a (white skinned?) baby, we know that the ancient Egyptians are dark skinned.
2 Why was Paul the apostle called an Ethiopian in Acts 21:38 Art not thou that Egyptian, which before these days madest an uproar, and leddest out into the wilderness four thousand men that were murderers?

I am begining to suspect that folake is not an Israelite. As a believer in reincarnation, I strongly suspect that he is one of indigenous people Oduduwa met at Ile-ife. This explains his strong opposition to reason.

Mr President:

You are rambling folake. Why dont you google up the information. I have done justice to this thread by proving to you, through the custodians of Yoruba traditional history and culture-The Ogboni, that the Yoruba were originally monotheistic and believed in The Supreme Creator.

Idolatry was the reason they (and all other negroes) were cursed into Africa and also dispersed to all corners of the earth.

I leave you to your ramblings, you have just solidified my convictions about you. You are not truly Yoruba.

This thread is for the seeker who will find it later.

macof:

yes I know there is prove to claim ancient israel was black but wat has dat got to do wit Odududwa?

macof:
Yoruba were never monothesit. but we have also always believed in the supreme creator

macof:

yes I know there is prove to claim ancient israel was black but wat has dat got to do wit Odududwa?

Mr President:


What I have given you is wholistic Yoruba history pre and post Oduduwa. Monotheistic before oduduwan history recall, polytheistic after Oduduwan history recall, linking Oduduwa to the cradle of man the East (or middle east), and How God's authentic children became worshippers of stone and wood(Jeremiah 17:4). Maybe you, Macof, are a sincere seeker but just confused, then, all I ask of you is to continue seeking with a pure heart, but by all means AVOID idolatry. Do good to all men and treat them as you would want to be treated. The light will shine through to you eventually.

keep in mind that Oduduwa may not actually even be the name of a person but a code word for a group of people who came to a place and conquered the original inhabitants. I am certain, with a measure of conviction, that folake was one of the people conquered by Oduduwa, this is the reason it is difficult for him to accept sound reasoning and facts of history. It hurts!

For the true Yoruba, it is a call to royalty, a call to walk in your original inheritance....as the true authentic bonafide children of God.
The Bible was written by your forefathers who fell into idolatry, were punished by exile into the wildernesss of Africa and the furthest parts of the earth.

But then, there is hope and the time is nigh...

Zephaniah 3:10
From beyond the rivers of Ethiopia my suppliants, even the daughter of my dispersed, shall bring mine offering.


folake is lost. He is destined for destruction. His motives are not pure.

Mr President:

You are rambling folake. Why dont you google up the information. I have done justice to this thread by proving to you, through the custodians of Yoruba traditional history and culture-The Ogboni, that the Yoruba were originally monotheistic and believed in The Supreme Creator.

Idolatry was the reason they (and all other negroes) were cursed into Africa and also dispersed to all corners of the earth.

I leave you to your ramblings, you have just solidified my convictions about you. You are not truly Yoruba.

This thread is for the seeker who will find it later.

Mr President:


What I have given you is wholistic Yoruba history pre and post Oduduwa. Monotheistic before oduduwan history recall, polytheistic after Oduduwan history recall, linking Oduduwa to the cradle of man the East (or middle east), and How God's authentic children became worshippers of stone and wood(Jeremiah 17:4). Maybe you, Macof, are a sincere seeker but just confused, then, all I ask of you is to continue seeking with a pure heart, but by all means AVOID idolatry. Do good to all men and treat them as you would want to be treated. The light will shine through to you eventually.

keep in mind that Oduduwa may not actually even be the name of a person but a code word for a group of people who came to a place and conquered the original inhabitants. I am certain, with a measure of conviction, that folake was one of the people conquered by Oduduwa, this is the reason it is difficult for him to accept sound reasoning and facts of history. It hurts!

For the true Yoruba, it is a call to royalty, a call to walk in your original inheritance....as the true authentic bonafide children of God.
The Bible was written by your forefathers who fell into idolatry, were punished by exile into the wildernesss of Africa and the furthest parts of the earth.

But then, there is hope and the time is nigh...

Zephaniah 3:10
From beyond the rivers of Ethiopia my suppliants, even the daughter of my dispersed, shall bring mine offering.


folake is lost. He is destined for destruction. His motives are not pure.

Mr President:


What I have given you is wholistic Yoruba history pre and post Oduduwa. Monotheistic before oduduwan history recall, polytheistic after Oduduwan history recall, linking Oduduwa to the cradle of man the East (or middle east), and How God's authentic children became worshippers of stone and wood(Jeremiah 17:4). Maybe you, Macof, are a sincere seeker but just confused, then, all I ask of you is to continue seeking with a pure heart, but by all means AVOID idolatry. Do good to all men and treat them as you would want to be treated. The light will shine through to you eventually.

keep in mind that Oduduwa may not actually even be the name of a person but a code word for a group of people who came to a place and conquered the original inhabitants. I am certain, with a measure of conviction, that folake was one of the people conquered by Oduduwa, this is the reason it is difficult for him to accept sound reasoning and facts of history. It hurts!

For the true Yoruba, it is a call to royalty, a call to walk in your original inheritance....as the true authentic bonafide children of God.
The Bible was written by your forefathers who fell into idolatry, were punished by exile into the wildernesss of Africa and the furthest parts of the earth.

But then, there is hope and the time is nigh...

Zephaniah 3:10
From beyond the rivers of Ethiopia my suppliants, even the daughter of my dispersed, shall bring mine offering.


folake is lost. He is destined for destruction. His motives are not pure.

PAGAN 9JA:


BULLSH!T. my friend is a Chief of the Ogboni and they practice idolatory and the belief of many Gods is central to their pactices.

His shrine is located in Lagos.

macof:

I honestly don't knw where to start with u, so I better not.

May Orunmila help u advance in knowledge and release u from this confusion.

FOLYKAZE:

Person like him need to encounter Eshu. Eshu need be sow confusion into his life....if he is human with brain, he will come to think and appeal to the Gods.

FOLYKAZE:

Person like him need to encounter Eshu. Eshu need be sow confusion into his life....if he is human with brain, he will come to think and appeal to the Gods.

macof:

True.
Mr president needs Esu

Mr President:


At a very young age, you boys are already diabolic. Imagine two nitwits threatening me with idolatry

I dare you both in the Name of The Most High God.

Mr President:


At a very young age, you boys are already diabolic. Imagine two nitwits threatening me with idolatry

I dare you both in the Name of The Most High God.

PAGAN 9JA:


They are not threatening you.
They are advising you to know the God Esu.

they are not against the God.

what is your point actually

FOLYKAZE:

Ignorance is really a disease. Eshu is not a monster that attack person around or suck blood. And you were saying you know much about Yoruba history, spirituality and culture but you dont know what Eshu is? Seriously if you dont encounter Eshu, transformation wont come near you cuz Eshu Odara mean divine messenger of transformation.

You know the reason I asked Eshu to meet you? When Sango asked Eshu the reason he trick and cause chaos everywhere....Eshu replied saying 'I WANT TO MAKE PEOPLE THINK'. You dont want to think? I person needs challenges before success. Business men needs it as challenges make them think and restructure. So dont be scared man......just get knowledge and reasons. Lol

Mr President:

I dont care what esu is, folake.

idolatry is the reason the Negro (Yoruba inclusive) is cursed by The Most High God.

Lemme give you a bone to chew folake

Ol\ODU\mare, ODU\duwa

2 Chronicles 7:14
If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.