Samakinr:
...ah what is this one saying...you think everyone argues like you on a factless point?.....go to university college, London...and come back to talk with me. Bro

Evergreen123:

False,
doctors do that during ward rounds and clinics, or y do u think we spend time in ward rounds/clinics?
Even if doctors were not doing it before, its a doctors job cos there are many things u discuss with a patient, aside his disease and medications; there are lab results and interpretations, nursing care to supplement what nurses do, and so on.
Even lab scientists forward the px results to the doctors for interpretation, not that they cant explain it to the patient but its the doctors job, the doctor is supposed to coordinator of the findings of the nurses, lab scientists and physiotherapists from the patient.
From ur argument, nurses and med lab scientists should also come to the wards for ward rounds .
Again, I believe that u can start the help with those u meet at the counter too, if u so wish.

Samgreguc:
bros, y must u na? With ur O'level u go proceed to do pharmacy for 3yrs? Haba mana brossss. . .

adeola_drg:

U're wrong again here. How would u say that? Diff strokes for diff folks. A lot of my classmates want to work in a pharm industry, I seem to be the only one for now and a few senior colleagues that is interested in hospital pharmacy. We've focused on the drugs for years, it's time to move on. Emphasis on BEDSIDE of the patient.

Samakinr:
...ah what is this one saying...you think everyone argues like you on a factless point?.....go to university college, London...and come back to talk with me. Bro

silica: The truth is over 90% of those in the Pharmacy profession are those who initially wanted to study medicine but couldn't make it. Ever since, they have been looking for backdoor ways to be caled doctors. Which is why they came up with thos new trick.check the problem at the hospitals, it's either pharmacists want to be paid the same salary as doctors or they want to be Chief Medical Directors. Hospitals are for Doctors and Nurses. Pharmacist merely offer auxiliary functions. If they can't work in d hospital as an appendage they should go and establish a robust pharmacy industry and supretend over its affairs rather than instigating other workers at the hospitals to cause trouble in our health sector.

Evergreen123:

Sorry then,
Everybody can't/shouldn't work in any location, its just like a doctor choosing to work at the lavatories cos he likes the smell of toilet.
He should just join the janitorial team and everybody will be happy.
In the same vein, bed side is for doctors and nurses and then physiotherapists who have immobile patients in the ward like stroke patients.
So, u can as well start nursing school .......

Evergreen123:

Lolz.
Ph.D is not M.D nah

Samgreguc:
bros, y must u na? With ur O'level u go proceed to do pharmacy for 3yrs? Haba mana brossss. . .

adeola_drg:


U're so funny! Doctors do all those? With the loads of people on queue to see the doctor? Who is talking about Lab scientists? PharmD pharmacists offers interpretation of lab results too.. So?

Samgreguc:
M.D? I rejected studying medicine for Pharmacy.

adeola_drg:

Go back to page 1. I dropped a post there about a neurology ward round and the need for a pharmacist.. Goan read it..


The benefit of been clinically loaded cuts across all aspects of the pharmacy profession. From the industry to the community to the hospital. I hope I can come up with analogies later to support my point.

Samgreguc:
M.D? I rejected studying medicine for Pharmacy.

Samgreguc:
bros, y must u na? With ur O'level u go proceed to do pharmacy for 3yrs? Haba mana brossss. . .

zeezahbee: samgreguc , everyone think if you studying or studied pharmacy, you probably didn't get admit into medicine. Never, I chose pharmacy like other people. It was never a 2nd choice for me

zeezahbee: Firstly am a sister not bro. Thank God you used university college of london as your example. My coursin is currently a student there. They offer only M.pharm on B.pharm or pharm D. Will post there link for you and kindly make use of google to know the meaning of M.pharm as well.
http://www.ucl.ac.uk/prospective-students/undergraduate/degrees/subjects/pharmacy

obayaya:

Yeah I saw that post. And to be honest, that isn't enough reason for the Pharm.D switch. It doesn't justify it whatsoever.
Now let's look at it this way, Pharmacist aren't taught the pharmacology and delivery mechanism of all the drugs out there (like the neurology drugs you talked about in that post) during their B.Pharm and neither will they be able to cover all areas even after the introduction of the Pharm.D.

Let's face it. This are things you learn relative to where you find yourself and as a result of your quest for self improvement.

Is there any legislation right now in the hospitals that prevent pharmacist from escorting doctors on ward rounds or reading up on a particular area and asking questions from someone that knows? Absolutely not.

I'm sure fresh Pharm.D graduates in the US wouldn't know all those neurology drug stuffs in details except maybe the basics they learnt in the course of their program.

The Answer to all these is self improvement. Ppl who wish to improve will improve. And if maybe there are companies involved in the production of Neurological drugs here in Nigeria, I'm sure they'll need loads of pharmacist who'll research and in turn gain all these knowledge about neurology.

like I said in a post earlier, this is what PCN should be looking at. Modalities for Pharmacists to be involved in ward rounds and encouraging research and establishment of real pharmaceutical companies. not all these drug importation ventures.

zeezahbee: Adeola you grad from OOU right?

Evergreen123:

there is nothing there.
Another worthwhile thing to do is not to rise tomorrow and protest to do a doctors job.

zeezahbee: Get your info right, we do pharmaceutical microbiology so pathology comes in.

Samgreguc:
those way knw me well knw say i no get hosbeetle 4 mind. Lol.
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Drug production and research all the way, hosbeetle go come if mayb tins change.

adeola_drg:
U said this..

Pharmacist aren't taught the pharmacology and delivery mechanism of all the drugs out there

U must be smoking some exotic weed ryt!

Ur latter post is true to an extent, buh trust me the degree give u a lot of proficiency that the outdated bpharm won't give.

adeola_drg:
U said this..

Pharmacist aren't taught the pharmacology and delivery mechanism of all the drugs out there

U must be smoking some exotic weed ryt!

Ur latter post is true to an extent, buh trust me the degree give u a lot of proficiency that the outdated bpharm won't give.

obayaya:

Lmao!!!

Ok!!! Now step aside sir/ma'am

ACM10:

Why are you trying to appear clever by latching on one aspect of my comment? Do you think that thorough knowledge of Pharmacology prepares you enough to treat patients? What about Pathology? Can you treat a patient without knowing the pathological basis of the disease? You are picking my points selectively. That's a sign of intellectual weakness.

obayaya:

So you want to tell me that you were taught the pharmacology and delivery mechanism of all the millions of drug out there?

And how come the guy in the post you referred me to who is a senior pharmacist didn't know about that of the neurological drugs?

Talk about contradictions

Samakinr:
...I am serious...and meanwhile, they don't do o'level in the UK. THEY USE A-LEVEL. And u must at least AAB...nothing less before you can have an admission into any school of pharmacy. By AAB, i meant A, A, B, in the three of mathematics, chemistry and biology. Though in other parts of Europe, the situation is different. You must spend your 5yrs singbain for a B. Pharm and 6yrs for your PharmD.... A point of correction here, the D (doctorate degree) in Pharmacy is different from PharmD (doctor of pharmacy).... Uh. Okay, we all need more enlightenment here. Pharmacy is not a sole requisite for producing, discovery or testing of new drugs. You can't even be employed into a drug producing company unless you have a doctorate/M.phil in Medicinal chemistry...and of course, a chemistry, biochemistry, biotechnology graduate can also function in that role...hence the reason why the western countries brought up the idea of making the pharmacists more patient oriented(pharmD) while still leaving a lee way for the pharmacists who want to function in drug production/dispensing(pharmcognosy, pharmaceutical chemistry)....ah its not easy to type, sorry for any incoherence

Samakinr:
....if have been agreeing with you all this while, but give me one reason why you actually think the B Pharm is OUTDATED. That's really my problem...it's not even outdated in the US we are copying. PharmD has been on in the US since 1970 and yet the B Pharm is never labelled as outdated. Adeola, jxt see it like this, PharmD for clinically oriented pharmacists and the B pharm for the manufacturers, researchers, and quality controls....so i actually hate you label the B pharm as outdated. Give us respects, that's my second degree

adeola_drg:

He's a pharmacist who specialized in CVS/Renal disease. He was only asking for pharmacists who specialized in neurology to fly in and join him. If u read that post well, he mentioned the disease states that correlated to his specialty. Somehow, I get ur point though!

Buh u're very wrong on the pharmacology and drug delivery mechanism. We were taught all those, but it takes specializing to become a force in any field be it HIV or infectious disease or paediatrics.

zeezahbee: Ewwww, abeg are you a pharmacist ? So you mean with a pharm D or B.pharm, no pharmaceutical company will employ me until I have a Masters or PHd in chemistry, biochem or biotech. Haba, does that correlate. This biochem or biotech grad are used as back up in pharmaceutical companies secondly, who told you the idea behind pharm D was for clinicals alone, even with your PHarm D you can still work in an industry. Be careful oo