malvisguy212: I have not fallen sick since 1995, why because I ask God to protect me , and he did, do you think it is possible for my body to be health since 19955? Am I difference from other people? What is the power behind my health?

You say , for the past 15yrs you have not falling sick? As a man with scientific knowledge, is it possible for you to stay for 15yrs without sickness or taken drugs? [i stand to be corrected] if yes , then I believe it is magic.

You say many christian are in hospital, yes you are right, jesus say this word to his disciples and brothers"o ye of little faith" this statement mean that a sinner can have faith bt not as the believer's.

mazaje:

I repeat, I have not fallen sick for 15 years, never been admitted, never spent a day lying all day at home for 15 years. I have had slight headaches and have taken some drugs of which i felt better after just a few hours. . .sometimes i just sleep wake up and the headache is gone. . .Christians that have more faith than you are dying by the millions all over the world due to one sickness or the other, stop telling lies. . .Those with greater faith than you are down with many different types of disease as am typing, so enough of your silly talk. . .

malvisguy212: I did not doubt you, doubting you is like doubting the power of the devil. Thank you for your time, mr atheist.

davidylan:

this is getting silly. I wasnt channeling anything besides making an analogy. If by healing the sick you claim that Christ was advocating no use of a hospital then does that mean that by multiplying food He must have been advocating no buying of food or cooking ever again? I mean dont you see how completely obtuse that argument is?

Weah96:

No. It's not an obtuse argument. You should buy one loaf of bread and multiply it until the original loaf spoils, and then buy another one. There is nothing impossible for your God, right? We have it on record.

davidylan:

When you run out of rational arguments, you resort to ad hominems and complete bizarre claims. Enjoy.

As i said to someone earlier, if you dont believe in God then why waste a second of your time reading about him obsessively? I wouldnt waste my time with fairies either. You should do the same... except of course if you've got underlying issues you're unable to admit to.

Weah96:

No. It's not an obtuse argument. You should buy one loaf of bread and multiply it until the original loaf spoils, and then buy another one. There is nothing impossible for your God, right? We have it on record.

mazaje:

This is the problem i have with you people, you guys go about claiming that there is this god that loves you, guides you and protects you because you are special and have a special relationship with him, but when shown that your life is no different from that of any body else despite your bogus claims you try to change the matter by stating utter nonsense like why are you bothered about god?. .

.When christians talk to each other you hear them say things like we worship and serve an awesome god that can do all things. . .There is nothing that he can not do. . . There is no sickness he can not cure once you believe in him bla bla bla, but when atheist tell christians that there are many things their god can not do and many illnesses he can not cure(No god can heal an amputee and restore his/her amputated limbs back, no god can cure a baby born with down syndrome for example) the christian begins to talk trash and try to divert the discussion to another emotional nonsense talk like "why are you bothered about a god that does not exist"?. . "Is it because your conciseness pricks you?". . .No, no conscience of ours pricks us, we just want to follow the bogus claims you make all the time to the very end to see if its actually true or not. . .When christians talk to each other they keep lying to each other all the time, when atheist meet them and challenge the lies they keep telling each other, then they begin to cry. . .Deluded people. . .

davidylan:

the point i have always struggled to understand is this - why do you bother? You seem to be so bitter about this God who is of no consequence to you. Enjoy.

davidylan:

the point i have always struggled to understand is this - why do you bother? You seem to be so bitter about this God who is of no consequence to you. Enjoy.

Pastor AIO:

I believe the issue of why they bother is an historical and political one. It is a subject worthy of it's own thread and I would like to start it and proffer my thoughts. Ultimately I think the reasons for it are not harmful to christians.

davidylan:

Agreed that it is not. It just seems to puzzle me why people who claim not to care about God, seem to evince such visceral hatred and a predilection for wasting years of their lives caterwauling about Him.

mazaje:

This is the problem i have with you people, you guys go about claiming that there is this god that loves you, guides you and protects you because you are special and have a special relationship with him, but when shown that your life is no different from that of any body else despite your bogus claims you try to change the matter by stating utter nonsense like why are you bothered about god?. .

.When christians talk to each other you hear them say things like we worship and serve an awesome god that can do all things. . .There is nothing that he can not do. . . There is no sickness he can not cure once you believe in him bla bla bla, but when atheist tell christians that there are many things their god can not do and many illnesses he can not cure(No god can heal an amputee and restore his/her amputated limbs back, no god can cure a baby born with down syndrome for example) the christian begins to talk trash and try to divert the discussion to another emotional nonsense talk like "why are you bothered about a god that does not exist"?. . "Is it because your conciseness pricks you?". . .No, no conscience of ours pricks us, we just want to follow the bogus claims you make all the time to the very end to see if its actually true or not. . .When christians talk to each other they keep lying to each other all the time, when atheist meet them and challenge the lies they keep telling each other, then they begin to cry. . .Deluded people. . .

@Bold... very true bro!

I have argued this number of times i cant even remember!

Take a look at this scenario: I and a friend of mine had a discussion on religion, and he claimed he HEARS from god directly and want's to prove to me how god has been working in his life. (I respect people's opinion, so i didn't argue much with him). But one sad thing about this friend of mine is, His mom is very ill. Because of the ailment, they had to take her to India for treatment, when she came back to Nigeria, it started again. This time, she was taken to LUTH, now she's in a private hospital. Since he claimed to have a very good relationship with god, can't he ask god to help his mom? Nah!

Similar thing with my aunt; cause of her belief in a god and Jesus, she refused to take drugs to suppress and with time overcome her sickness... This sickness really troubled her. Even, when she was in MFM prayer city, she had an attack (the sickness occurred)... Now, no one has taught her to use her drugs adequately and visit the hospital as scheduled by her Doctor... and so on!

I'm not trying to mock anyone here (cos i know what this people are going through or went through). Just that, people should face reality and take necessary measures.

And if anyone feels or believe he/she can get cured by drinking what they call holy water, anointing oil or going to the mountains to pray... well, na the person sabi oooo!

Cheers!

highmey:

@Bold... very true bro!

I have argued this number of times i cant even remember!

Take a look at this scenario: I and a friend of mine had a discussion on religion, and he claimed he HEARS from god directly and want's to prove to me how god has been working in his life. (I respect people's opinion, so i didn't argue much with him). But one sad thing about this friend of mine is, His mom is very ill. Because of the ailment, they had to take her to India for treatment, when she came back to Nigeria, it started again. This time, she was taken to LUTH, now she's in a private hospital. Since he claimed to have a very good relationship with god, can't he ask god to help his mom? Nah!

Similar thing with my aunt; cause of her belief in a god and Jesus, she refused to take drugs to suppress and with time overcome her sickness... This sickness really troubled her. Even, when she was in MFM prayer city, she had an attack (the sickness occurred)... Now, no one has taught her to use her drugs adequately and visit the hospital as scheduled by her Doctor... and so on!

I'm not trying to mock anyone here (cos i know what this people are going through or went through). Just that, people should face reality and take necessary measures.

And if anyone feels or believe he/she can get cured by drinking what they call holy water, anointing oil or going to the mountains to pray... well, na the person sabi oooo!

Cheers!

mazaje:

Devil?. . What's that?. . .Describe the devil for me so that when i come in contact with it i will know it. . .

mazaje:

So the verse in James 5:14-16 is falsehood?. . Some one quotes what the bible recommends for sick christians and this deluded one is saying that the person is spreading falsehoods.The thing is you know the reality and the reality is what is written inside James 5:14-16 is pure nonsense, you will never try it yourself, if you get infected with a serious illness like cancer today the hospital is where you will run to, you will never go to the church and try what the bible recommended in James 5:14-16 because you KNOW it is pure nonsense. . .

Kay 17: @davidlyan

You believe miracles are necessary only wherein there are no other alternatives, right?

davidylan:

the point i have always struggled to understand is this - why do you bother? You seem to be so bitter about this God who is of no consequence to you. Enjoy.

highmey:

@Bold... very true bro!

I have argued this number of times i cant even remember!

Take a look at this scenario: I and a friend of mine had a discussion on religion, and he claimed he HEARS from god directly and want's to prove to me how god has been working in his life. (I respect people's opinion, so i didn't argue much with him). But one sad thing about this friend of mine is, His mom is very ill. Because of the ailment, they had to take her to India for treatment, when she came back to Nigeria, it started again. This time, she was taken to LUTH, now she's in a private hospital. Since he claimed to have a very good relationship with god, can't he ask god to help his mom? Nah!

Similar thing with my aunt; cause of her belief in a god and Jesus, she refused to take drugs to suppress and with time overcome her sickness... This sickness really troubled her. Even, when she was in MFM prayer city, she had an attack (the sickness occurred)... Now, no one has taught her to use her drugs adequately and visit the hospital as scheduled by her Doctor... and so on!

I'm not trying to mock anyone here (cos i know what this people are going through or went through). Just that, people should face reality and take necessary measures.

And if anyone feels or believe he/she can get cured by drinking what they call holy water, anointing oil or going to the mountains to pray... well, na the person sabi oooo!

Cheers!

iam_ord: been following your comments.. I could not help but to shake my head.. Now this is the escape route u using.. You got it twisted! God save us from religious hogwash!

davidylan:

You could simply answer this prayer yourself by removing yourself from threads that discuss religion. Very simple.

iam_ord: u can't tell me that..I see somthing interesting to me I can read and comment.. U also have the right to do so.. So u can't hold me from that.. But I will clear u when I no gbadun.. U r not ready to learn from anybodys point .. Its yours and yours only

davidylan:

The problem is that you have no point, other than going round and round in incomprehensible circles repeating the same tired speculations and bizarre accusations that have no merit.

No one asks you not to read what you want to read... i just wonder why you bother at all when of course you constantly caterwaul about how God does not exist. But of course... you should enjoy.

iam_ord: u see u don't understand the person u talking to.. I believe there is a god.. But a lot of things u mention are shows a great level of hogwash.. That's what am trying to addresse.. I am not pissed off in any way but speaking my mind..

malvisguy212: devil is an slowpoke , a foolish being, if a foolish being can desive a man claim to be wise, who is more foolish? That why psalm 14:1 say ,"the fool say there is no God".

davidylan:

I dislike being the grammar police but please learn to spell and construct proper grammar.

Secondly if you think much of what i've said is hogwash, then i expect that you specifically point them out instead of the incomprehensible general ad hominems you've been throwing around.

The.Big.Urban:



you should be a boxer



I mean....the way you duck and dodge attacks.....

davidylan:

i'm not sure what you think i dodged. Its not like there was much to respond to... i'm also glad you call most of the posts what they truly are... attacks... mostly illogical, devoid of any shred of common sense and objectivity.

mazaje:

You haven't said anything, just describe how the devil looks so that when i come in contact with it i will know it. . .

malvisguy212: describe something you don't believe in? Is like you got nothing to do than just fooling around. Thank you for your time.
Peace

The.Big.Urban:



As usual, i expected reetarded replies from you.


An attack can be precise and rational. The atheists here are attacking the claims about miracles in the bible (and God) and you are ducking left and right.

Your bible clearly talks about spiritual healing which educated christians like you avoid like a leper. Educated christians rush to clinics but the slowpoke rush to pastors for faith healing