Image123:

Yes. He's even asking you to repent oh.

mazaje:

Why can't god personally tell him to repent if he wants him to repent?. . .

Image123:

Yes. i doubt you know what you ask though.

Image123:

Yes. He's even asking you to repent oh.

Weah96:

Well, we have managed to establish a direct line of communication with the creator. Before the CIA swoop in and whisk you away for some thorough interrogation, is it possible to authenticate the message? Just to make sure that you're not lying about having a chat with him and all. Ask him to provide the last 4 digits of my social security number followed by the street number of the address that I am located as I type this.

Kay17:

I know what I asked. Apparently from what you have said, God makes the decision of what action is to be made not us mortals. Incidentally we merely extend and further our faith by obeying God. At the end of the day, "faith without works" makes no sense.

Image123:

duh, can you afford to stop thinking in 1-D?

Image123:

You're stating the obvious, take a pat on that back of yours. The Word of God is all about telling us all what to do. We then obey in faith. Faith without works is worse than senseless, the Bible says it's dead.

Kay17:

BUT the action to take is not the Christian's choice (as you have said God commands the action) yet the Faith is. Obeying divine commands is the evidence for Faith.

Weah96:

Explain. What are you talking about?

Image123:
Ask anyone around you to explain following the train of thought.

Kay17:

I know what I asked. Apparently from what you have said, God makes the decision of what action is to be made not us mortals. Incidentally we merely extend and further our faith by obeying God. At the end of the day, "faith without works" makes no sense.

mazaje:

So the verse in James 5:14-16 is falsehood?. . Some one quotes what the bible recommends for sick christians and this deluded one is saying that the person is spreading falsehoods.The thing is you know the reality and the reality is what is written inside James 5:14-16 is pure nonsense, you will never try it yourself, if you get infected with a serious illness like cancer today the hospital is where you will run to, you will never go to the church and try what the bible recommended in James 5:14-16 because you KNOW it is pure nonsense. . .

alexleo:

Come to my church and you will see thousands of people who dont go to hospital or seek medication. They rely in prayer and get healed. My parents are living witnesses of this too. My parents have been in our church for over fifty years and they have been living their lives relying on prayers alone for their healing and its been working for them. They are alive and still strong and above seventy years so dont talk as if James 5;14 does not work. My sisters too dont go to hospital. I ve not gone to hospital for treatment, its a few times that i get sick and take drugs in recent times. Ordinarily i rely on prayers(as my parents taught me) alone and i dont condemn those who go to hospital. its not a sin. The story of the good samaritan tells you that medication is not against God's will. If it is, then Jesus wouldnt have commended the man.

TheBigUrban2:


lol......only in Nigeria. In the UK or USA, if your church is caught doing this.....some church leaders would find themselves in prison

Image123:

duh, Apostolic Faith is in UK and USA, that's what their members do largely. JW don't collect blood or something, they don't go to prison for it. Stop deceiving yourself alone.

In some countries, including Canada and the UK, a parent or guardian's decision can be legally overruled by medical staff. In this case, medical staff may act without consent, by obtaining a court order in a non-emergency situation, or without such an order in an emergency.[35][36] In Japan, a doctor must respect the wish of an adult but can override the wishes of a child and its parents if the child is under 15. If a child is aged 15 to 17, a doctor will not perform a transfusion if the parents and the child refuse the transfusion. If a child aged from 15 to 17 objects to a transfusion but the parents demand the transfusion, then a doctor can override the child's wish.[citation needed] In the United States, the American Academy of Pediatrics recommends that in cases of "an imminent threat to a child's life", physicians in some cases may "intervene over parental objections".[37]

TheBigUrban2:


lol.........you think? Please send me the address of your church. I want to make an anonymous report on them.

Image123:

You forgot the prison part?

Image123:

duh, Apostolic Faith is in UK and USA, that's what their members do largely. JW don't collect blood or something, they don't go to prison for it. Stop deceiving yourself alone.

TheBigUrban2: ^^^

What it the name of God is happening?

People are fighting to make sure that parents can refuse to give children medical treatment through religious exemptions?


Wow....this is what christianty has become? A child killing religion?

Just when churches were impressing me with their charity and anti-bullying outreach

texanomaly:



I have no problem with religion, as long as it is tempered with some common sense. smh

TheBigUrban2: ^^^

What it the name of God is happening?

People are fighting to make sure that parents can refuse to give children medical treatment through religious exemptions?


Wow....this is what christianty has become? A child killing religion?

Just when churches were impressing me with their charity and anti-bullying outreach

davidylan:

try and read carefully... christian science is a cult.

TheBigUrban2:

how are they different from Jehovah witness and other fundamental christians?

Then these too are cults

TheBigUrban2:


lol......only in Nigeria. In the UK or USA, if your church is caught doing this.....some church leaders would find themselves in prison

alexleo:

You people were talking as if James 5:14 doesn't work so I had to show you that it works. Now you are talking about prison. The truth of the bible keeps staring you in the face but rather than accept it you always look for an excuse.

alexleo:

Come to my church and you will see thousands of people who dont go to hospital or seek medication. They rely in prayer and get healed. My parents are living witnesses of this too. My parents have been in our church for over fifty years and they have been living their lives relying on prayers alone for their healing and its been working for them. They are alive and still strong and above seventy years so dont talk as if James 5;14 does not work. My sisters too dont go to hospital. I ve not gone to hospital for treatment, its a few times that i get sick and take drugs in recent times. Ordinarily i rely on prayers(as my parents taught me) alone and i dont condemn those who go to hospital. its not a sin. The story of the good samaritan tells you that medication is not against God's will. If it is, then Jesus wouldnt have commended the man.

TheBigUrban2:

lol...that is the point.....the report should get an investigation and then some arrests

texanomaly:

He's actually right about the US. Most people think the law requires that all children attending public school must have had all recommended vaccines before entering school and must provide documentation to prove it. This is not true. There is no federal law mandating vaccine exemptions. They are left up to individual states. Every state has at least one kind of law governing it. Some have two or even three. All 50 states have a medical exemption. All states except Mississippi and West Virginia have religious exemptions. And 18 have philosophical exemptions.

This is a site that advocates for children’s rights to receive medical care. They are especially opposed to religious exemption from child health and safety laws. You might find it enlightening. It highlights religious Exemptions from preventive and diagnostic measures, Exemptions from providing MEDICAL care for sick children.

http://childrenshealthcare.org/?page_id=24

Image123:

Thanks for the link. Yesterday 10pm, alexeo quoted mazaje who was saying that James 5 is nonsensical and cannot be practiced by Alex.

James 5:14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord: 5:15 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him. 5:16 Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.

Alexeo went a notch higher to state that there are many people who don't even do hospitals. That is very true, not every sickness gets to the hospital, it's still the prerogative and will of the sick person to decide whether they go to hospital or not. One can have issues and pray and it's solved. i put it that it's common knowledge that many members of Apostolic Faith church don't rely on medicine. BTW, any believer anywhere can be sick and pray, you don't go to prison for that. AGAIN, i have not said, neither has the bible said you can't/shouldn't go to hospital. However, praying for healing is notonly done in Nigeria, they do it also in the US and U.K.

mazaje:

Forget all these things you are saying, we are all Nigerians and we all know the REALITY of what is happening in Nigeria. . .I have seen friends, relatives of friends, neighbors who were christians lose their lives after going to chruch to be prayed upon by elders. . .

mazaje: Some of them were too poor to go to the hospital, so once they fell sick the church was the only place they could go to. . .

mazaje:
You can not rely on prayer alone and get well when suffering from a terminal disease. . . .