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Re: Boko Haram Not Sponsored By Anti-jonathan Politicians — US Officials by M4gunners: 11:08am On Jul 05, 2014
Same old story
Re: Boko Haram Not Sponsored By Anti-jonathan Politicians — US Officials by experimentist: 11:13am On Jul 05, 2014
How many times must I tell you motherfckers that it is Jonathan that is sponsoring them bastards.. Huh!




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Re: Boko Haram Not Sponsored By Anti-jonathan Politicians — US Officials by hazzand16(m): 11:14am On Jul 05, 2014
gen2briz: Ok
ok
Re: Boko Haram Not Sponsored By Anti-jonathan Politicians — US Officials by myspnigeria: 11:22am On Jul 05, 2014
Why am I finding this hard to believe?
Re: Boko Haram Not Sponsored By Anti-jonathan Politicians — US Officials by seedorfg(m): 11:27am On Jul 05, 2014
Wether Na anti o Or na uncle Jonathan 2015 go voice Out ! .. undecided
Re: Boko Haram Not Sponsored By Anti-jonathan Politicians — US Officials by Missmossy(f): 11:30am On Jul 05, 2014
Issokaysad

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Re: Boko Haram Not Sponsored By Anti-jonathan Politicians — US Officials by deletrue: 11:31am On Jul 05, 2014
This americans na thieves. As we the FG no allow them come with full force so that them no go technically round us up and annex our country, they now out there saying rubbish. No show. Go your own way and leave us alone. By God's grace, he go stop one day.
What else does any normal individual want to know that boko haram is caused by the notherners?
Stupit Americans.
Re: Boko Haram Not Sponsored By Anti-jonathan Politicians — US Officials by Pvin: 11:38am On Jul 05, 2014
Two things goin on my mind after reading these.
1. It's either U.S is one of the beneficiaries of this insulgence.
2. Or. they are trying to capture the boko from its root by making feel that them (the U.S) have not actually gotten a vital info about their operations.
Its only Time wil tell
Re: Boko Haram Not Sponsored By Anti-jonathan Politicians — US Officials by cannonnier(m): 11:59am On Jul 05, 2014
Adenugay: then is sponsoring them...because if these guys should continue on thier carnage, It will soon affect the southern parts of the country (Olorun maje). For now, I think the best solution is for Nigeria to splits into as many parts at will fit eveyone. Because terrorism is like a cancer----------it spreads

suppose you sister is get cancer (Olorun maje) you will split her away from the family right!

Re: Boko Haram Not Sponsored By Anti-jonathan Politicians — US Officials by thelastPope(m): 12:05pm On Jul 05, 2014
How much has been collected in the last 4 years from kidnapping that can fund this multibillion naira insurgency. This apc propaganda is so cheap. Lol

Kidnapping is not even common in the Niger delta since amnesty was granted.
Re: Boko Haram Not Sponsored By Anti-jonathan Politicians — US Officials by XKZ(m): 12:49pm On Jul 05, 2014
andresia:

Central to the militant group’s approach includes
using hard-to-track human couriers to move cash,
relying on local funding sources...
“Our suspicions are that they are surviving on very lucrative criminal activities that involve kidnappings,” U.S.

Assistant Secretary of State for African Affairs Linda Thomas-Greenfield said in an interview.



Officials with deep knowledge of Boko Haram’s finances say that any links with al Qaeda or its affiliates are inconsequential to Boko Haram’s overall funding.



Ransoms appear to be the main source of funding for Boko Haram...


Figures vary on how much Boko Haram earns from kidnappings. Some U.S. officials estimate the group is paid as much as $1 million for the release of each abducted wealthy Nigerian.



Much of Boko Haram’s military hardware is not bought, it is stolen from the
Nigerian army.

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The caption of this article is misleading and looks like a deliberate attempt to twist the truth.

The only thing the US Officials say definitely is that Boko Haram's funding is not from international sources rather they are from local sources.
All the other information in the article is about what they suspect and estimate.

They only say kidnapping and other criminal activities are involved and appear to be main source of their local funding; and this does not in away exclude funding from local politicians (whether opposition or ruling party) who are basically the ones who have access to huge amounts of (liquid) cash via stolen government funds.

Personally, I believe if kidnappings was that important to Boko Haram it would be much more rampant, the way it was during the Niger Delta militancy or even in the South-East.

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Re: Boko Haram Not Sponsored By Anti-jonathan Politicians — US Officials by donchisel: 1:06pm On Jul 05, 2014
andresia: •Say group gets most funds from lucrative kidnapping

•’No substantial aid from al-Qaeda and AQIM’

WASHINGTON – When Washington imposed sanctions in June 2012 on Boko Haram leader Abubakar Shekau,he dismissed it as an empty gesture.

Two years later, Shekau’s skepticism appears well founded: his Islamic militant group is now the biggest security threat to Africa’s top oil producer, is richer than ever, more violent and its abductions of women and children continue with impunity.

As the United States, Nigeria and others struggle to track and choke off its funding, Reuters interviews with more than a dozen current and former U.S. officials who closely follow Boko Haram provide the most complete picture to date of how the group finances its activities.

Central to the militant group’s approach includes using hard-to-track human couriers to move cash, relying on local funding sources and engaging in only limited financial relationships with other extremists groups. It also has reaped millions from high-profile kidnappings. “Our suspicions are that they are surviving on very lucrative criminal activities that involve kidnappings,” U.S.

Assistant Secretary of State for African Affairs Linda Thomas-Greenfield said in an interview.

Until now, U.S. officials have declined to discuss Boko Haram’s financing in such detail.

The United States has stepped up cooperation with Nigeria to gather intelligence on Boko Haram, whose militants are killing civilians almost daily in its northeastern Nigerian stronghold. But the lack of international financial ties to the group limit the measures the United States can use to undermine it, such as financial sanctions.

The U.S. Treasury normally relies on a range of measures to track financial transactions of terrorist groups, but Boko Haram appears to operate largely outside the banking system.

To fund its murderous network, Boko Haram uses primarily a system of couriers to move cash around inside Nigeria and across the porous borders from neighbouring African states, according to the officials interviewed by Reuters.

In designating Boko Haram as a terrorist organization last year, the Obama administration characterized the group as a violent extremist organization with links to al Qaeda.

The Treasury Department said in a statement to Reuters that the United States has seen evidence that Boko Haram has received financial support from Al Qaeda in the Islamic Magreb (AQIM), an offshoot of the jihadist group founded by Osama bin Laden.

But that support is limited. Officials with deep knowledge of Boko Haram’s finances say that any links with al Qaeda or its affiliates are inconsequential to Boko Haram’s overall funding.

“Any financial support AQIM might still be providing Boko Haram would pale in comparison to the resources it gets from criminal activities,” said one U.S. official, speaking on condition of anonymity.

Assessments differ, but one U.S. estimate of financial transfers from AQIM was in the low hundreds of thousands of dollars.That compares with the millions of dollars that Boko Haram is estimated to make through its kidnap and ransom operations.



LUCRATIVE KIDNAPPING RACKET

Ransoms appear to be the main source of funding for Boko Haram’s five-year-old Islamist insurgency in Nigeria, said the U.S. officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

In February last year, armed men on motorcycles snatched Frenchman Tanguy Moulin-Fournier, his wife and four children, and his brother while they were on holiday near the Waza national park in Cameroon, close to the Nigerian border.

Boko Haram was paid an equivalent of about $3.15 million by French and Cameroonian negotiators before the hostages were released, according to a confidential Nigerian government report later obtained by Reuters.

Figures vary on how much Boko Haram earns from kidnappings. Some U.S. officials estimate the group is paid as much as $1 million for the release of each abducted wealthy Nigerian.

It is widely assumed in Nigeria that Boko Haram receives support from religious sympathizers inside the country, including some wealthy professionals and northern Nigerians who dislike the government, although little evidence has been made public to support that assertion.

Current and former U.S. and Nigerian officials say Boko Haram’s operations do not require significant amounts of money, which means even successful operations tracking and intercepting their funds are unlikely to disrupt their campaign.



LOW-COST WEAPONS

Much of Boko Haram’s military hardware is not bought, it is stolen from the

Nigerian army.

In February, dozens of its fighters descended on a remote military outpost in the

Gwoza hills in northeastern Borno state, looting 200 mortar bombs, 50

rocket-propelled grenades and hundreds of rounds of ammunition.

Such raids have left the group well armed. In dozens of attacks in the past year

Nigerian soldiers were swept aside by militants driving trucks, motor bikes and sometimes even stolen armoured vehicles, firing rocket-propelled grenades.

Boko Haram’s inner leadership is security savvy, not only in the way it moves

money but also in its communications, relying on face-to-face contact, since

messages or calls can be intercepted, the current and former U.S. officials

said.

“They’re quite sophisticated in terms of shielding all of these activities

from legitimate law enforcement officials in Africa and certainly our own

intelligence efforts trying to get glimpses and insight into what they do,” a

former U.S. military official said.

U.S. officials acknowledge that the weapons that have served Washington so well in its financial warfare against other terrorist groups are proving less effective

against Boko Haram.

“My sense is that we have applied the tools that we do have but that they are not

particularly well tailored to the way that Boko Haram is financing itself,” a U.S. defense official said.

Story, it appears that America is yet to understand that the world does not beleive them anymore. When Al quaeda attacks Syria Government, they are described as rebels, but when they attack America, the become terrorists. How tin is the line between a terrorist and a rebel? When Abacha took power from Shonekan in Nigeria, it becomes coup d'etat, but when millitary hijacks power from democratically elected governement in Eqypt it becomes Millitary intervention.

The only thing i see is concerted efforts to ensure that
1. Nigeria breaks in 2015 according to previous prediction.
2. Nigeria's declaration of Africa's biggest economy even in the wake of security and infrastructure challenges must be void.
3. Nigeria's influence in Ecomog and in African as whole must be curtailed

Nigeria declares ant-gay law today, and america stops buying their oil the day, and thus resorted to buying from libya. There is God oooooo!!!!!!!!
Re: Boko Haram Not Sponsored By Anti-jonathan Politicians — US Officials by Toktee(m): 1:36pm On Jul 05, 2014
Ada Nri1: So the US knows it all?

Federal gvt is well aware of the operations of bokohallam,but since the pdp is using it to promote their party and tanished the image of the opposition,they refused to do somethng about it,why has pdp nt enter bauchi state yet,jonah and his crew knows better.
Re: Boko Haram Not Sponsored By Anti-jonathan Politicians — US Officials by Jeel: 1:38pm On Jul 05, 2014
Forget US when it comes to security to any nation. They break you down and take over. That's what they have started to do now
Re: Boko Haram Not Sponsored By Anti-jonathan Politicians — US Officials by ogene70: 2:30pm On Jul 05, 2014
andresia: there is no doubt the huge connection between the kidnappings and oil deals in the Niger delta and the insurgency in the northeast. where are all the money accruing from the kidnapping and oil thefts going to? Why has GEJ refused to be proactive in resolving this boko haram bloodshed. he is vicious and is out to destroy this country.

please point to all of us here on Nairaland where you saw the link btw Boko haram and oil deals in the delta. It 's really not cool to make baseless claims just to cause hate.
Re: Boko Haram Not Sponsored By Anti-jonathan Politicians — US Officials by ogene70: 2:38pm On Jul 05, 2014
Lord Mecuzy:


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Pls dear send me ur BB pin na

lol!
Romance in time of war...God help you.
Re: Boko Haram Not Sponsored By Anti-jonathan Politicians — US Officials by Nobody: 2:49pm On Jul 05, 2014
Lol Nigerians aren't interested in whodunit, they just want to blame each other and anybody.
Re: Boko Haram Not Sponsored By Anti-jonathan Politicians — US Officials by isaco(m): 3:12pm On Jul 05, 2014
As far as am concerned, US hasn't done anything about Boko Haram, we don't need story we need action.
Re: Boko Haram Not Sponsored By Anti-jonathan Politicians — US Officials by Toktee(m): 3:39pm On Jul 05, 2014
ogene70:

please point to all of us here on Nairaland where you saw the link btw Boko haram and oil deals in the delta. It 's really not cool to make baseless claims just to cause hate.
Shut up,do you thnk we are stupid,we are aware of what edwin clark,asari bin dokubu are doing,nw minimal is aiding them,do you thnk we are stpid like you?
You guys down south want ur lame dock president bck to office nxt year by all means,that is why u are trying evrythng to make sure that the tempo on bokohallam will go on untill during the election so dat jonathan will say election will nt take place in the affected states whch happened to be an opposition stronghold,dude we are nt stupid like u owk.
Re: Boko Haram Not Sponsored By Anti-jonathan Politicians — US Officials by toobasky: 3:48pm On Jul 05, 2014
May be if we drop tribalism, religious differences, hate for one another and go back as we were some 20, 30 years ago, then we will realize that what is termed Boko haram today is a creation of the CIA which is foreign and since they know we are a large country with diverse ethnicity, religion and tribes, they cause hate amongst ourselves making us think its one section hurting the other as camoflage while they continue milking our resources. They've done it in other countries just that the strategy they used depends on their study of that country...all this is public knowlege and only requires a little bit of wisdom to understand..#ibegtodiffer
Re: Boko Haram Not Sponsored By Anti-jonathan Politicians — US Officials by mrvictor: 3:51pm On Jul 05, 2014
Big lie from the US!
How times has BH kidnapped people?
US is as confused as Nigeria on this issue.
Re: Boko Haram Not Sponsored By Anti-jonathan Politicians — US Officials by ogene70: 3:59pm On Jul 05, 2014
Toktee: Shut up,do you thnk we are stupid,we are aware of what edwin clark,asari bin dokubu are doing,nw minimal is aiding them,do you thnk we are stpid like you?
You guys down south want ur lame dock president bck to office nxt year by all means,that is why u are trying evrythng to make sure that the tempo on bokohallam will go on untill during the election so dat jonathan will say election will nt take place in the affected states whch happened to be an opposition stronghold,dude we are nt stupid like u owk.

surely you are silly if you still can't point the link out...mad cow.
Re: Boko Haram Not Sponsored By Anti-jonathan Politicians — US Officials by onomemike: 4:11pm On Jul 05, 2014
Nice conspiracy theory tho but let's look at it from dis view; will a south south govt target Christian settlements up north with BH attacks even if It would have, would'nt there have been heavy repraisal attacks on northern settlements in deep south? Or is it a case of the northern elites and big wigs trying to tannish the image of the present govt and label it incompetent? Frankly the north has Ego centred leaders who have turned their back on their youths. Rather than ecourage them to become educated and encourage them with scholarships like the Niger delta has done, they keep encouraging them to pick up weapons and even run after cows here and there. The difference between the average youth from the south and his counterpart from d north is Enlightenment and not illusion. Ok check dis out why is Tambawal not chasing cow here and there, why is Sanusi not taking up weapons. Look my friend Your greatest problems are your northern leaders. They are only after themselves thats all. Enriching their pockets and Telling u guys cock and bull stories to make you believe you are being sidelined! Big fat LIE! Turn now and go after your Leaders or first Get educated as I presume u r very ignorant so u could see this truth. I rest my case for ur head. quote author=Toktee]Shut up,do you thnk we are stupid,we are aware of what edwin clark,asari bin dokubu are doing,nw minimal is aiding them,do you thnk we are stpid like you?
You guys down south want ur lame dock president bck to office nxt year by all means,that is why u are trying evrythng to make sure that the tempo on bokohallam will go on untill during the election so dat jonathan will say election will nt take place in the affected states whch happened to be an opposition stronghold,dude we are nt stupid like u owk.[/quote]
Re: Boko Haram Not Sponsored By Anti-jonathan Politicians — US Officials by Nobody: 4:13pm On Jul 05, 2014
nawa for this u.s ppl
how come the know everything apart from the location of the missing girls
i smell foul play
Re: Boko Haram Not Sponsored By Anti-jonathan Politicians — US Officials by DocAdray(f): 4:51pm On Jul 05, 2014
I don't trust the U.S. at all.
Everyone is just trying to play games with this issue, to suit him (or her).
Re: Boko Haram Not Sponsored By Anti-jonathan Politicians — US Officials by Themandator: 5:15pm On Jul 05, 2014
America and the others are here with so called hitec devices to help pinpoint, first the location of our girls then boko haram tentacle, it is yet to do both.

Whatever conjectures it is making is neither here nor there..... There are moral backers of the group in the two main party in Nigeria even as there are mentors for them amongst the traditional rulers in the North.

But first thing first, get the girls home to their parents and you can continue with the academic exercise
Re: Boko Haram Not Sponsored By Anti-jonathan Politicians — US Officials by arsetalks(m): 5:45pm On Jul 05, 2014
The military we rely on was looted and there was no reinforce to make sure Boko Haram's loot are recovered. Says it all. The president can not get people who are supposed to be answerable to him to provide the right answers. If you boss is complacent, you been complacent will be seen as normal.
Re: Boko Haram Not Sponsored By Anti-jonathan Politicians — US Officials by LilPeezy(m): 5:46pm On Jul 05, 2014
andresia: •Say group gets most funds from lucrative kidnapping

•’No substantial aid from al-Qaeda and AQIM’

WASHINGTON – When Washington imposed sanctions in June 2012 on Boko Haram leader Abubakar Shekau,he dismissed it as an empty gesture.

Two years later, Shekau’s skepticism appears well founded: his Islamic militant group is now the biggest security threat to Africa’s top oil producer, is richer than ever, more violent and its abductions of women and children continue with impunity.

As the United States, Nigeria and others struggle to track and choke off its funding, Reuters interviews with more than a dozen current and former U.S. officials who closely follow Boko Haram provide the most complete picture to date of how the group finances its activities.

Central to the militant group’s approach includes using hard-to-track human couriers to move cash, relying on local funding sources and engaging in only limited financial relationships with other extremists groups. It also has reaped millions from high-profile kidnappings. “Our suspicions are that they are surviving on very lucrative criminal activities that involve kidnappings,” U.S.

Assistant Secretary of State for African Affairs Linda Thomas-Greenfield said in an interview.

Until now, U.S. officials have declined to discuss Boko Haram’s financing in such detail.

The United States has stepped up cooperation with Nigeria to gather intelligence on Boko Haram, whose militants are killing civilians almost daily in its northeastern Nigerian stronghold. But the lack of international financial ties to the group limit the measures the United States can use to undermine it, such as financial sanctions.

The U.S. Treasury normally relies on a range of measures to track financial transactions of terrorist groups, but Boko Haram appears to operate largely outside the banking system.

To fund its murderous network, Boko Haram uses primarily a system of couriers to move cash around inside Nigeria and across the porous borders from neighbouring African states, according to the officials interviewed by Reuters.

In designating Boko Haram as a terrorist organization last year, the Obama administration characterized the group as a violent extremist organization with links to al Qaeda.

The Treasury Department said in a statement to Reuters that the United States has seen evidence that Boko Haram has received financial support from Al Qaeda in the Islamic Magreb (AQIM), an offshoot of the jihadist group founded by Osama bin Laden.

But that support is limited. Officials with deep knowledge of Boko Haram’s finances say that any links with al Qaeda or its affiliates are inconsequential to Boko Haram’s overall funding.

“Any financial support AQIM might still be providing Boko Haram would pale in comparison to the resources it gets from criminal activities,” said one U.S. official, speaking on condition of anonymity.

Assessments differ, but one U.S. estimate of financial transfers from AQIM was in the low hundreds of thousands of dollars.That compares with the millions of dollars that Boko Haram is estimated to make through its kidnap and ransom operations.



LUCRATIVE KIDNAPPING RACKET

Ransoms appear to be the main source of funding for Boko Haram’s five-year-old Islamist insurgency in Nigeria, said the U.S. officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

In February last year, armed men on motorcycles snatched Frenchman Tanguy Moulin-Fournier, his wife and four children, and his brother while they were on holiday near the Waza national park in Cameroon, close to the Nigerian border.

Boko Haram was paid an equivalent of about $3.15 million by French and Cameroonian negotiators before the hostages were released, according to a confidential Nigerian government report later obtained by Reuters.

Figures vary on how much Boko Haram earns from kidnappings. Some U.S. officials estimate the group is paid as much as $1 million for the release of each abducted wealthy Nigerian.

It is widely assumed in Nigeria that Boko Haram receives support from religious sympathizers inside the country, including some wealthy professionals and northern Nigerians who dislike the government, although little evidence has been made public to support that assertion.

Current and former U.S. and Nigerian officials say Boko Haram’s operations do not require significant amounts of money, which means even successful operations tracking and intercepting their funds are unlikely to disrupt their campaign.



LOW-COST WEAPONS

Much of Boko Haram’s military hardware is not bought, it is stolen from the

Nigerian army.

In February, dozens of its fighters descended on a remote military outpost in the

Gwoza hills in northeastern Borno state, looting 200 mortar bombs, 50

rocket-propelled grenades and hundreds of rounds of ammunition.

Such raids have left the group well armed. In dozens of attacks in the past year

Nigerian soldiers were swept aside by militants driving trucks, motor bikes and sometimes even stolen armoured vehicles, firing rocket-propelled grenades.

Boko Haram’s inner leadership is security savvy, not only in the way it moves

money but also in its communications, relying on face-to-face contact, since

messages or calls can be intercepted, the current and former U.S. officials

said.

“They’re quite sophisticated in terms of shielding all of these activities

from legitimate law enforcement officials in Africa and certainly our own

intelligence efforts trying to get glimpses and insight into what they do,” a

former U.S. military official said.

U.S. officials acknowledge that the weapons that have served Washington so well in its financial warfare against other terrorist groups are proving less effective

against Boko Haram.

“My sense is that we have applied the tools that we do have but that they are not

particularly well tailored to the way that Boko Haram is financing itself,” a U.S. defense official said.
Rubbish.....alwys showin dier selves as if na dem knw pass.....ogorimakpa pple
Re: Boko Haram Not Sponsored By Anti-jonathan Politicians — US Officials by breakeven: 6:10pm On Jul 05, 2014
It may be true that they are not the sponsors but do not tell me also that they are not sympathetic to the course of Boko Haram. they so desperately want power that they would support any measure or means to get GEJ discredited. They have forgotten that as the Americans would say "what goes around comes around" meaning that if they are able to get the power 2morrow a bigger monster may be unleashed by others to discredit them also. So it is neither here nor there.let us join hands together to fight the evil that has invaded our land.
Re: Boko Haram Not Sponsored By Anti-jonathan Politicians — US Officials by gebest: 6:32pm On Jul 05, 2014
I THINK UNA DON HEAR NOW THOSE I-DIOT WEI SAY NA OPPOSITION DEY SPONSOR BOKO HARAM.

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