slyzy: Forget that thing! How many doctors have been sued in Nig in proportion to the number of pple they give permanent disabilty with injection we see limping about? What of those they kill with misdiagnosis? Have u not heard of cases that they forget some tool in a patient stomach after operation? An the chain continues... An average Nigerian will let go even if the doctor tries to deny unprofessionalism saying is the will of God. So, how many doctors are sued in Nig as u are trying to claim?

direct your issues and questions to lawyers.

Samakinr:
....i'll advise you don't join in this debate. You know, u're quite deficient in this notions

Ok. Thank you sir

nowadays.....everything on Nairaland is about doctors and other health workers...

iiiyyyk:

So u now convert nigerian salaries to US salaries in dolars
See how poor our Drs reason, very skewed. These guys cant ever be rational and reasonable always living in closed boxes, no doubt people detest u guys.
Why didn't u compare medical school fees in USA and what u pay in here in Nigeria,
Why didn't u compare the cost of fuel in USA and what u buy here in Naija.
Ur argument is wicked same way u pple are wicked to other health professionals,
What is the salary of a sonographer in your department. U as a students earns 3x more than him, few yrs later, u become a consultant and earn 6x more than him.
Wicked egocentric.
The end is very near.

we have no sonographers in my department. we don't allow radiographers touch the ultrasound machine. why? because they dont know that a very echogenic liver + mild ascites maybe very early cirrhosis OR an echogenic liver may be hepatitis. they can only recognise an echogenic liver. QED.
I hope you know your idio.tic senators earn more than their US counterparts just for sitting on their a**** all day. channel your queries to them.don't point your fingers at the doctors.

phantom: still under training but you forget these are already doctors who are specializing.why shouldn't they be paid and why shouldn't they go on strike? who do you think is the engine room of teaching hospitals. consultants no. its resident doctors who work their a** off. even in the US, its residents. attending physicians are the big boys.they work less and earn more

what do you know?Have you ever travelled to the US? Big mouth.Nigerians talk so ignorantly .They havent been there and seen that but they talk so ignorantly .BS

hollandis:

what do you know?Have you ever travelled to the US? Big mouth.Nigerians talk so ignorantly .They havent been there and seen that but they talk so ignorantly .BS

it takes more than emotions to shut me up. give me a link madam.

thegeneral84:
Entry level health professionals in USA are not fresh university graduates. Entry level nurses in USA are masters degree holders. Entry level pharmacists are Pharm D holders. Also in the USA, most pharmacists do a postgraduate "residency" before they are awarded Pharm D and can now become "entry level" (very few universities do the undergraduate PharmD and those schools are even querried about the adequacy of an undergraduate Pharm D compared to the majority postgraduate Pharm D). would our Pharmacists here want to do a postgrad residency and be subjected to the same temporary appointment stuff resident doctors are experiencing? I think not. They rather tried to institute the undergraduate Pharm D (which is being criticised in the originating country, USA). So you see entry level in USA health system are not fresh graduates. But our NURSES, pharms, etc in Nigeria always fail to mention that allowing the uninformed masses assume that the salaries posted about USA are those of "fresh graduates". In simple terms, in the USA health system all entry level workers are people with postgraduate fellowships in their respective colleges

We have access to internet and we know the entry level qualification for different health profession too, but you are soo wrong about that of nurses.

Morotov1: We have access to internet and we know the entry level qualification for different health profession too, but you are soo wrong about that of nurses.

then by all means produce a link

prettyprettywow: You forgot that these are salaries of specialist Doctors(consultants) with over 12yrs of education and average of $300k in student loan (for US Drs) as compared to the salaries of an entry level nurse ( 4yrs degree and less than $50k student loanfor US graduates)). You fail to realize that in US, resident Drs earn an average of $45k, quite below the salary of the least hospital worker. So when they say Drs aern 200k, know that they are talking about consultants, and if you wanna compare with nurses, talk about nurse practitioners where some specialist nurse practitioners earn more than some specialist Drs e.g Anaesthetic nurses (CRNA) earn more than family physicians. Our Drs want to reap where they did not sow.

Besides, nobody is asking to earn same salary as Drs. That has never been the issue

Well said pretty.... You've just said it all.though I don't know much about other foreign countries but here in 9ja, d stand of doctors is out of it. I support ur say that doctors here hardly accept their misdeeds, they're good in shifting blames to other proffesional cadres (Lab,Nurses) most especially.
2. Doctors here, really mock their patients as u said. Except their customers at their private hospitals. That they introduces to public hospitals because of the equipments available in public health sectors. Even they make their private patients float public health sector orders at d expenses of public patients who souly believe in govt. Settings cos of prices and cost differences.
3. Even d doctors are most taken care of most compared to other health pratitionals.
4. And with one saying here that doctors are d brains. To me doctors can't diagonised without result from labs, that why they'll trying to steal shows from other health pratitionals. They're now going into d fields of other proffesionals as doctors studies. In hospitals nurses take care and spend time more with patients than doctors.
5. What of Medical health recors officers,that stands as statisticians for hospitals. They are d first bulk stop for patients.
6. Even with d setting on ground , house officers n students doctors her rated high than other health professional that has passed through their student levels. because house officers still under tutorlage (get paid from level 10). When other health proffesional cadre starts from level 9,6 and 7. Yet they've passed d level of students.
And yet d consultants receives heavily....
7. Moreso they now heading and being d directorate of every departments now ranging from Medical health records, Lab e.t.c. It will get to a time that all will be medical doctors no more lab.,Pharm.,Medical rec.,nurses. If cautions are not taken.

In my sense of view, every health practisional should be able to raise to post of Chief Medical Directors, Minister or commissional of Health.

Dio1: There really aren't specialist nurses in nigerian teaching hospitals , so your point is baseless, nigerian nurses and their johesu cohorts are not interested in specialization… they're more concerned about salary

There aren't what.....please check out the advert placement of nurses in Nigerian hospitals.

Someone should please post the amount of salaries of these health workers in Nigeria

phantom: coming from sagamite.........a board certified re.tard. grasping at straws as usual while his betters argue the essence.....lol

person, someone certified you as a doctor?

No wonder the life expectancy in Nigeria is in the early 50s.

Now I get it, in a person's view, the essence is not 'value for money' in the public sector. The government should just throw the money away at inferior productivity and products.

God save Nigeria.

Moronic nation, moronic people!

silentdon:

Rubbish! where is it written that that's the salary of consultants?
Who told you it's all doctors that specialize to become consultants.
Gen practitioners form a bulk of docs, FYI.

You will never agree.. It's better to read up than to argue. US doctors out of medical schools are paid peanuts. U have to be a specialist to be paid that much.

ArabianPrince: I find it funny when a Professor of English claiming to be knowledgeable in consulting..... finds it hard to understand the term "Highest Average" And he wants the services of a top notch personal physician. How would he appreciate such services?.
Considering the above.... If I have my way, I would ban such a person from operating in any consulting firm.

AHHH!

Please, person, translate it for me.

Let me learn or be entertained.

I wait.

Sagamite:

person, someone certified you as a doctor?

No wonder the life expectancy in Nigeria is in the early 50s.

Now I get it, in a person's view, the essence is not 'value for money' in the public sector. The government should just throw the money away at inferior productivity and products.

God save Nigeria.

Moronic nation, moronic people!

jumping from thread to thread screaming "person" like your life depends on it.....lol......f******king i.mbecile.
the world would have been a much better place if you had trickled down your mums thighs and ended up as a yellowish-brown stain on the bed sheets.....lol

Lets not forget what obtains in other developed countries is different from that of Nigeria. The federal government should at least improve the working conditions of these doctors. All the medical equipment and facilities in our hospitals are not up to international standard. God bless Nigeria.

phantom: then by all means produce a link

Check 2013 or recent bureau of labour statistics of United states website on Registered Nurse salary( with BSN degree) and nurse practitioners ( these are the ones with masters and DNP degree). Can't copy and paste with my device.

annoymous:
Lol. Did u say double? Quadruple sef never reach. Anesthesiologists are one of the most well paid physicians in the US

Yes ooooooooo. I saw this yesterday and I think it'll shed light on the argument.
http://www.myplan.com/careers/top-ten/highest-paying.php

phantom: jumping from thread to thread screaming "person" like your life depends on it.....lol......f******king i.mbecile.
the world would have been a much better place if you had trickled down your mums thighs and ended up as a yellowish-brown stain on the bed sheets.....lol

person, is this now an attempt to divert from the fact that you moronically did not know the essence of utilisation of public funds?

You don't want to talk about "essence" again, quack product of a failed education system and potential state-sponsored murderer!

adconline:
You will never agree.. It's better to read up than to argue. US doctors out of medical are paid peanuts. U have to be a specialist to be paid that much.

adconline:
You will never agree.. It's better to read up than to argue. US doctors out of medical are paid peanuts. U have to be a specialist to be paid that much.

What do you mean by peanuts? An average primary care physician here in the states makes atlesst $140k/year minimum. That doesn't sound like peanut to me!!!

Morotov1: Check 2013 or recent bureau of labour statistics of United states website on Registered Nurse salary( with BSN degree) and nurse practitioners ( these are the ones with masters and DNP degree). Can't copy and paste with my device.

no wahala.will look it up when I get home.

slyzy: Forget that thing! How many doctors have been sued in Nig in proportion to the number of pple they give permanent disabilty with injection we see limping about? What of those they kill with misdiagnosis? Have u not heard of cases that they forget some tool in a patient stomach after operation? An the chain continues... An average Nigerian will let go even if the doctor tries to deny unprofessionalism saying is the will of God. So, how many doctors are sued in Nig as u are trying to claim?

But some of these quacks think they should be paid relative to doctors in the UK or USA.

tk4rd: And what does "Highest Average" supposed to mean.? If he wants to talk about average, then, let him talk about average. If he want to talk about highest, let him talk about highest..

You would soon understand what Highest Average means.

A Mckinsey/Goldman Sachs consultant, called ArabianPrince, is about to tell us what this cutting edge terminology means.

Lets see if he would tell us or pick race and run.

johnkent:
What do you mean by peanuts? An average primary care physician here in the states makes atlesst $140k/year minimum. That doesn't sound like peanut to me!!!

was actually looking for a link to support this yesterday.any would be appreciated.

phantom: direct your issues and questions to lawyers.

This is the person that thinks he is underpaid compared to Western doctors?

A sane professional, like the ones we have in the UK, would think about patient care and start exploring how to collate the errors, do some root-cause analysis and then talk about solving the problem.

But this person of Nigeria says "Fck you, sue us if you want".

dimobro: Lets not forget what obtains in other developed countries is different from that of Nigeria. The federal government should at least improve the working conditions of these doctors. All the medical equipment and facilities in our hospitals are not up to international standard. God bless Nigeria.

They are better off expending any additional budget to improve the equipment and training of the hospitasl and staff, than giving more money to certified quack grim-reapers.

Why are you people disturbing yourselves? There must be relativity in salaries and other health workers are not fighting against it. The op is a real mumu for posting this. Aren't there better n more pressing issues to be addressed? What about the lack of sophisticated medical equipment in our hospitals which has made docs to be unproductive (mind u, if given the needed facilities they would perform better)? Wake up from your slumber, Mr op and stop majoring on the minor. May God help us in this nation.

Sagamite:

This is the person that thinks he is underpaid compared to Western doctors?

A sane professional, like the ones we have in the UK, would think about patient care and start exploring how to collate the errors, do some root-cause analysis and then talk about solving the problem.

But this person of Nigeria says "Fck you, sue us if you want".

Even peckham street thugs think they have an opinion.
thank god for the NHS.

oshytayman: Why are you people disturbing yourselves? There must be relativity in salaries and other health workers are not fighting against it. The op is a real mumu for posting this. Aren't there better n more pressing issues to be addressed? What about the lack of sophisticated medical equipment in our hospitals which has made docs to be unproductive (mind u, if given the needed facilities they would perform better)? Wake up from your slumber, Mr op and stop majoring on the minor. May God help us in this nation.

GOD bless you. there is only one functioning ultrasound machine in UPTH as I type this. the mammography machine is dead.
......and they want the Nigerian doctor to perform wonders.

phantom: Even peckham street thugs think they have an opinion.
thank god for the NHS.

person, that is all you have to say now.

No more essence?

You see, I am right again. Next time, learn never to step to Sagamite, he is ALWAYS right and will always humiliate you.

bumfem:

Awesome!!! Pls let us always feed the public the truth, nothing but the truth.

The guy has posted the salary of of consultant physician in the US in comparison with entry level grads. Doctors out of schl never earn up to sonographers. We all know this .

In what part of the world does that happen?

Sagamite:

person, that is all you have to say now.

No more essence?

You see, I am right again. Next time, learn never to step to Sagamite, he is ALWAYS right and will always humiliate you.

...........there I was thinking shymexx was the worst there is. wow.