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Re: Problems With Biblical Inerrancy by toptechorder: 10:30am On Aug 03, 2014
frosbel: ^^^^^

I admire your copy and paste skills, but your post up there is unreadable.

Present it in a more logical way so we can discuss.

Thanks.


@Frosbel,now u r running.....
Re: Problems With Biblical Inerrancy by Nobody: 10:30am On Aug 03, 2014
toptechorder:

So you understand Arabic language,cos d oda time u said only Arab understands quran.hahahah

They are in English , but I also have my online tools and Arabic translator for the online versions wink
Re: Problems With Biblical Inerrancy by toptechorder: 10:32am On Aug 03, 2014
frosbel:

They are in English , but I also have my online tools and Arabic translator for the online versions wink

So tell me,what r the contradiction u found in the quran.Be sincere,cos i dnt like to dailogue wit people who beats around d bush
Re: Problems With Biblical Inerrancy by adexsimply(m): 10:33am On Aug 03, 2014
mazaje:

They should just accept that the bible like any other book is a book written by humans , it has no divine origin, t[b]here is nothing that is written inside the bible that could not be written by other people that lived at that time. . . .[/b]
Gbamest Gbam!! cool
Re: Problems With Biblical Inerrancy by Nobody: 10:34am On Aug 03, 2014
ByfireByfire:
Ridiculous nonsense arising from personal perception & emotion being imposed as fact. Where did you get this figure from.Lies again.

I've been a believer for nearly 2 decades and whenever my love for God & Christianity had grown cold due to ferocious tribulations , the fear of eternal hell alone has consistently kept me from sin & kept me following till the love for God was fully kindled again by His interventions, visitations & tender mercies.I have been to numerous churches with counless millions of membership and can say the same experience stands true for the majority of Christians worldwide. Just like in a marriage relationship where the oil of love has dried up, the marriage bond keeps the couples yet living together till the love is revived again. This trend often repeats all through the marriage lifespan.

I don't expect you to agree with me as you never agree with anybody but with your self generated errors... but stop presenting your brazen flawed opinions as facts.

Okay, so now you prove to us that FEAR has kept you in the faith and not LOVE , we can infer therefore that your Gospel is a Gospel of Fear.

"There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love." - 1 John 4:18

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Re: Problems With Biblical Inerrancy by Nobody: 10:34am On Aug 03, 2014
ByfireByfire:
Ridiculous nonsense arising from personal perception & emotion being imposed as fact. Where did you get this figure from.Lies again.

I've been a believer for nearly 2 decades and whenever my love for God & Christianity had grown cold due to ferocious tribulations , the fear of eternal hell alone has consistently kept me from sin & kept me following till the love for God was fully kindled again by His interventions, visitations & tender mercies.I have been to numerous churches with counless millions of membership and can say the same experience stands true for the majority of Christians worldwide. Just like in a marriage relationship where the oil of love has dried up, the marriage bond keeps the couples yet living together till the love is revived again. This trend often repeats all through the marriage lifespan.

I don't expect you to agree with me as you never agree with anybody but with your self generated errors... but stop presenting your brazen flawed opinions as facts.

Okay, so now you prove to us that FEAR has kept you in the faith and not LOVE , we can infer therefore that your Gospel is a Gospel of Fear.

Fear not bro.

"There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love." - 1 John 4:18

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Re: Problems With Biblical Inerrancy by sarutobie(m): 10:37am On Aug 03, 2014
mazaje:

You don't wanna accept that thw bible is just another book humans wrote. . .you wanna claim divine origin but human fallibility at the same time. . . .how do you square that?
the bible is a collection of scriptures written by men (who were inspired by God)...even paul encouraged us to examine every word in the scriptures to ascertain if they are true or not..paul himself never claimed perfection.

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Re: Problems With Biblical Inerrancy by trigonometry: 10:37am On Aug 03, 2014
Y would we see somtin false and contradictory and tend 2 b ok with it? Well, itz clearly stated in the Qur'an "sumun, bukmun umyun fahum laa yar'jiun" I.e "the deaf, the dumb and the blind, they will never return to the right part" is it that even d christian scholars are even deaf, blind and dumb to all these? God gave us d brain to apply it and not just follow some set of people dogmatically.
May Almighty Allah guide us to the right part.
Re: Problems With Biblical Inerrancy by toptechorder: 10:37am On Aug 03, 2014
frosbel:

Okay, so now you prove to us that FEAR has kept you in the faith and not LOVE , we can infer therefore that your Gospel is a Gospel of Fear.

Fear not bro.

"There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love." - 1 John 4:18


Have u ever read of the verse ib bible where Moses says he sees God and God was spitting out fire from mouth and Nose,Imagine that.Smoke poured from his nostrils; Psalm 18 vs 8 fierce
flames leaped from his mouth. Glowing
coals blazed forth from him.
Re: Problems With Biblical Inerrancy by joesh94: 10:39am On Aug 03, 2014
The bible is a spiritual book, its new every morning, what u stated is true but with a spiritual man it isn't , For example the story of the fig tree means, God answers prayers immidately but the manifestation might not be instant , the two writers were inspired by God to write that,to tell us that God does all things , The bible when read should be with meekness of heart and to allow the holy spirt to give us the interpretaion, if not we will misinterprete it , in the actual greek or hebrew text it doesn't have error , you can confirm from the bible museum in england or usa ..... Am in church and might not answer all questions, but after church , ill do by God's grace .... God bless you as u study his word with meekness of heart...Shallom

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Re: Problems With Biblical Inerrancy by toptechorder: 10:41am On Aug 03, 2014
joesh94: The bible is a spiritual book, its new every morning, what u stated is true but with a spiritual man it isn't , For example the story of the fig tree means, God answers prayers immidately but the manifestation might not be instant , the two writers were inspired by God to write that,to tell us that God does all things , The bible when read should be with meekness of heart and to allow the holy spirt to give us the interpretaion, if not we will misinterprete it , in the actual greek or hebrew text it doesn't have error , you can confirm from the bible museum in england or usa ..... Am in church and might not answer all questions, but after church , ill do by God's grace .... God bless you as u study his word with meekness of heart...Shallom


Dnt confuse urself,there is diff between immediately and the next day,why cant u just reason
Re: Problems With Biblical Inerrancy by Nobody: 10:42am On Aug 03, 2014
trigonometry: Y would we see somtin false and contradictory and tend 2 b ok with it? Well, itz clearly stated in the Qur'an "sumun, bukmun umyun fahum laa yar'jiun" I.e "the deaf, the dumb and the blind, they will never return to the right part" is it that even d christian scholars are even deaf, blind and dumb to all these? God gave us d brain to apply it and not just follow some set of people dogmatically.
May Almighty Allah guide us to the right part.

The blind people are those who read a book only in Arabic even though they do not understand Arabic and then claim it is a miracle. The belief that the Quran is a miracle is a comedic Myth.

Further, why do people who question the Quran either have their heads cut off or are warned not to continue to doubt the Quran. What are your Imams hiding ?

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Re: Problems With Biblical Inerrancy by trigonometry: 10:44am On Aug 03, 2014
And those of u who wants to start comparing the Qur'an with bible, can't u point out a single error in the Qur'an probably 1 u 've heard about cos I knw definitely u wldnt have come across 1 urselves. Pls talk with proves and not sentiment.
Re: Problems With Biblical Inerrancy by toptechorder: 10:45am On Aug 03, 2014
frosbel:

The blind people are those who read a book only in Arabic even though they do not understand Arabic and then claim it is a miracle. The belief that the Quran is a miracle is a comedic Myth.

Seems this guy dn know what he is saying,no one reads Arabic quran without knowing the English meaning cos we were tought in Islamic school .
Re: Problems With Biblical Inerrancy by Nobody: 10:45am On Aug 03, 2014
trigonometry: And those of u who wants to start comparing the Qur'an with bible, can't u point out a single error in the Qur'an probably 1 u 've heard about cos I knw definitely u wldnt have come across 1 urselves. Pls talk with proves and not sentiment.

Open a new article please, NOW. I will point out so many errors you may even leave ISLAM today, trust me.
Re: Problems With Biblical Inerrancy by trigonometry: 10:51am On Aug 03, 2014
[quote author=frosbel]

The blind people are those who read a book only in Arabic even though they do not understand Arabic and then claim it is a miracle. The belief that the Quran is a miracle is a comedic Myth.

Further, why do people who question the Quran either have their heads cut off or are warned not to continue to doubt the Quran. What are your Imams hiding ?
[ Stop talking like a fool! U wanna tell me therez no translated Qur'an? Or therz nobody that understands Arabic apart frm arabs? And where have u gotten ur news on d beheading of Quran critics? Talk with prove pls not sentiment. Cos I understand islam 2 a great extent and have never come across any judgement that says a Quran critic shld b beheaded

]
Re: Problems With Biblical Inerrancy by oluwamitomisin: 10:52am On Aug 03, 2014
http://www.gotquestions.org/Bible-errors.html

Question: Does the Bible contain errors, contradictions, or discrepancies?
Re: Problems With Biblical Inerrancy by trigonometry: 10:53am On Aug 03, 2014
[quote author=frosbel]

Open a new article please, NOW. I will point out so many errors you may even leave ISLAM today, trust me.[U can start here scholar!]
Re: Problems With Biblical Inerrancy by Nobody: 10:53am On Aug 03, 2014
oluwamitomisin: http://www.gotquestions.org/Bible-errors.html

Question: Does the Bible contain errors, contradictions, or discrepancies?

This is an apologist sight with a bias towards the American gospel, please read other sites as well.

thanks.
Re: Problems With Biblical Inerrancy by Nobody: 10:55am On Aug 03, 2014
trigonometry: U can start here scholar!

no, this is about the bible, do not derail. We need a seperate one for the Quran.

Try these two for now anyway.

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/contra/by_name.html

https://www.nairaland.com/349654/just-tip-iceberg-serious-contradictions
Re: Problems With Biblical Inerrancy by toptechorder: 11:02am On Aug 03, 2014
frosbel:

no, this is about the bible, do not derail. We need a seperate one for the Quran.

Try these two for now anyway.

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/contra/by_name.html

https://www.nairaland.com/349654/just-tip-iceberg-serious-contradictions


English is really disturbing you,every thing in dat verse is dat eath was created in six days but becos u dnt understant english well u got confused.I pity u.hahahahaha
Re: Problems With Biblical Inerrancy by trigonometry: 11:03am On Aug 03, 2014
[quote author=toptechorder]Inconsistency in the Bible,yet they claim is from GOD :-XInconsistency in the Bible,yet they claim is from GOD

could be taken as biblical contradictions.
GE 1:3-5 On the first day, God created
light, then separated light and darkness.
GE 1:14-19 The sun (which separates night
and day) wasn't created until the fourth
day.
GE 1:11-12, 26-27 Trees were created before
man was created.
GE 2:4-9 Man was created before trees were
created.
GE 1:20-21, 26-27 Birds were created before
man was created.
GE 2:7, 19 Man was created before birds
were created.
GE 1:24-27 Animals were created before man
was created.
GE 2:7, 19 Man was created before animals
were created.
GE 1:26 Man is to have dominion over fish,
birds, cattle, and all wild animals, yet--
GE 2:15-17 It is wrong to be able to tell
good from evil, right from wrong.
GE 1:26-27 Man and woman were created at
the same time.
GE 2:7, 21-22 Man was created first, woman
sometime later.
GE 1:28 God encourages reproduction.
LE 12:1-8 God requires purification rites
following childbirth which, in effect,
makes childbirth a sin. (Note: The period
for purification following the birth of a
daughter is twice that for a son.)
GE 1:31 God was pleased with his creation.
GE 6:5-6 God was not pleased with his
creation.
(Note: That God should be displeased is
inconsistent with the concept of
omniscience as well as with the fact that
God allegedly does not change his mind: NU
23:19-20, 1SA 15:29, JA 1:17.)
GE 2:4, 4:26, 12:8, 22:14-16, 26:25 God was
already known as "the Lord" (Jahveh or
Jehovah) much earlier than the time of
Moses.
EX 6:2-3 God was first known as "the
Lord" (Jahveh or Jehovah) at the time of
the Egyptian Bondage, during the life of
Moses.
GE 2:17 Adam was to die the very day that
he ate the forbidden fruit.
GE 5:5 Adam lived 930 years.
GE 2:15-17, 3:4-6 It is wrong to want to be
able to tell good from evil.
HE 5:13-14 It is immature to be unable to
tell good from evil.
GE 4:4-5 God prefers Abel's offering and
has no regard for Cain's.
2CH 19:7, AC 10:34, RO 2:11 God shows no
partiality. He treats all alike.
GE 4:9 God asks Cain where his brother Able
is.
PR 15:3, JE 16:17, 23:24-25, HE 4:13 God is
everywhere. He sees everything. Nothing is
hidden from his view.
GE 4:15, DT 32:19-27, IS 34:8 God is a
vengeful god.
EX 15:3, IS 42:13, HE 12:29 God is a
warrior. God is a consuming fire.
EX 20:5, 34:14, DT 4:24, 5:9, 6:15, 29:20,
32:21 God is a jealous god.
LE 26:7-8, NU 31:17-18, DT 20:16-17, JS
10:40, JG 14:19, EZ 9:5-7 The Spirit of God
is (sometimes) murder and killing.
NU 25:3-4, DT 6:15, 9:7-8, 29:20, 32:21, PS
7:11, 78:49, JE 4:8, 17:4, 32:30-31, ZP 2:2
God is angry. His anger is sometimes
fierce.
2SA 22:7-8 (KJV) "I called to the Lord; ...
he heard my voice; ... The earth trembled
and quaked, ... because he was angry. Smoke
came from his nostrils. Consuming fire came
from his mouth, burning coals blazed out of
it."
EZ 6:12, NA 1:2, 6 God is jealous and
furious. He reserves wrath for, and takes
revenge on, his enemies. "... who can abide
in the fierceness of his anger? His fury is
poured out like fire, and rocks are thrown
down by him."
2CO 13:11, 14, 1JN 4:8, 16 God is love.
GA 5:22-23 The fruit of the Spirit of God
is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness,
faithfulness, gentleness and self-control.
GE 4:16 Cain went away (or out) from the
presence of the Lord.
JE 23:23-24 A man cannot hide from God. God
fills heaven and earth.
GE 6:4 There were Nephilim (giants) before
the Flood.
GE 7:21 All creatures other than Noah and
his clan were annihilated by the Flood.
NU 13:33 There were Nephilim after the
Flood.
GE 6:6. EX 32:14, NU 14:20, 1SA 15:35, 2SA
24:16 God does change his mind.
NU 23:19-20, 1SA 15:29, JA 1:17 God does
not change his mind.
GE 6:19-22, 7:8-9, 7:14-16 Two of each kind
are to be taken, and are taken, aboard
Noah's Ark.
GE 7:2-5 Seven pairs of some kinds are to
be taken (and are taken) aboard the Ark.
GE 7:1 Noah was righteous.
JB 1:1,8, JB 2:3 Job was righteous.
LK 1:6 Zechariah and Elizabeth were
righteous.
JA 5:16 Some men are righteous, (which
makes their prayers effective).
1JN 3:6-9 Christians become righteous (or
else they are not really Christians).
RO 3:10, 3:23, 1JN 1:8-10 No one was or is
righteous.
GE 7:7 Noah and his clan enter the Ark.
GE 7:13 They enter the Ark (again?).
GE 11:7-9 God sows discord.
PR 6:16-19 God hates anyone who sows
discord.
GE 11:9 At Babel, the Lord confused the
language of the whole world.
1CO 14:33 Paul says that God is not the
author of confusion.
GE 11:12 Arpachshad [Arphaxad] was the
father of Shelah.
LK 3:35-36 Cainan was the father of Shelah.
Arpachshad was the grandfather of Shelah.
GE 11:26 Terah was 70 years old when his
son Abram was born.
GE 11:32 Terah was 205 years old when he
died (making Abram 135 at the time).
GE 12:4, AC 7:4 Abram was 75 when he left
Haran. This was after Terah died. Thus,
Terah could have been no more than 145 when
he died; or Abram was only 75 years old
after he had lived 135 years.
GE 12:7, 17:1, 18:1, 26:2, 32:30, EX 3:16,
6:2-3, 24:9-11, 33:11, NU 12:7-8, 14:14, JB
42:5, AM 7:7-8, 9:1 God is seen.
EX 33:20, JN 1:18, 1JN 4:12 God is not
seen. No one can see God's face and live.
No one has ever seen him.
GE 10:5, 20, 31 There were many languages
before the Tower of Babel.
GE 11:1 There was only one language before
the Tower of Babel.
GE 15:9, EX 20:24, 29:10-42, LE 1:1-7:38,
NU 28:1-29:40, God details sacrificial
offerings.
JE 7:21-22 God says he did no such thing.
GE 16:15, 21:1-3, GA 4:22 Abraham had two
sons, Ishmael and Isaac.
HE 11:17 Abraham had only one son.
GE 17:1, 35:11, 1CH 29:11-12, LK 1:37 God
is omnipotent. Nothing is impossible with
(or for) God.
JG 1:19 Although God was with Judah,
together they could not defeat the
plainsmen because the latter had iron
chariots.
GE 17:7, 10-11 The covenant of circumcision
is to be everlasting.
GA 6:15 It is of no consequence.
GE 17:8 God promises Abraham the land of
Canaan as an "everlasting possession."
GE 25:8, AC 7:2-5, HE 11:13 Abraham died
with the promise unfulfilled.
GE 17:15-16, 20:11-12, 22:17 Abraham and
his half sister, Sarai, are married and
receive God's blessings.
LE 20:17, DT 27:20-23 Incest is wrong.
GE 18:20-21 God decides to "go down" to see
what is going on.
PR 15:3, JE 16:17, 23:24-25, HE 4:13 God is
everywhere. He sees everything. Nothing is
hidden from his view.
GE 19:30-38 While he is drunk, Lot's two
daughters "lie with him," become pregnant,
and give birth to his offspring.
2PE 2:7 Lot was "just" and "righteous."
GE 22:1-12, DT 8:2 God tempts (tests)
Abraham and Moses.
JG 2:22 God himself says that he does test
(tempt).
1CO 10:13 Paul says that God controls the
extent of our temptations.
JA 1:13 God tests (tempts) no one.
GE 27:28 "May God give you ... an abundance
of grain and new wine."
DT 7:13 If they follow his commandments,
God will bless the fruit of their wine.
PS 104:15 God gives us wine to gladden the
heart.
JE 13:12 "... every bottle shall be filled
with wine."
JN 2:1-11 According to the author of John,
Jesus' first miracle was turning water to
wine.
RO 14:21 It is good to refrain from
drinking wine.
GE 35:10 God says Jacob is to be called
Jacob no longer; henceforth his name is
Israel.
GE 46:2 At a later time, God himself uses
the name Jacob.
GE 36:11 The sons of Eliphaz were Teman,
Omar, Zepho, Gatam, and Kenaz.
GE 36:15-16 Teman, Omar, Zepho, Kenaz.
1CH 1:35-36 Teman, Omar, Zephi, Gatam,
Kenaz, Timna, and Amalek.
GE 49:2-28 The fathers of the twelve tribes
of Israel are: Reuben, Simeon, Levi, Judah,
Zebulun, Issachar, Dan, Gad, Asher,
Naphtali, Joseph, and Benjamin.
RE 7:4-8 (Leaves out the tribe of Dan, but
adds Manasseh.)
GE 50:13 Jacob was buried in a cave at
Machpelah bought from Ephron the Hittite.
AC 7:15-16 He was buried in the sepulchre
at Shechem, bought from the sons of Hamor.
EX 3:1 Jethro was the father-in-law of
Moses.
NU 10:29, JG 4:11 (KJV) Hobab was the
father-in-law of Moses.
EX 3:20-22, DT 20:13-17 God instructs the
Israelites to despoil the Egyptians, to
plunder their enemies.
EX 20:15, 17, LE 19:13 God prohibits
stealing, defrauding, or robbing a
neighbor.
EX 4:11 God decides who will be dumb, deaf,
blind, etc.
2CO 13:11, 14, 1JN 4:8, 16 God is a god of
love.
EX 9:3-6 God destroys all the cattle
(including horses) belonging to the
Egyptians.
EX 9:9-11 The people and the cattle are
afflicted with boils.
EX 12:12, 29 All the first-born of the
cattle of the Egyptians are destroyed.
EX 14:9 After having all their cattle
destroyed, then afflicted with boils, and
then their first-born cattle destroyed, the
Egyptians pursue Moses on horseback.
EX 12:13 The Israelites have to mark their
houses with blood in order for God to see
which houses they occupy and "pass over"
them.
PR 15:3, JE 16:17, 23:24-25, HE 4:13 God is
everywhere. He sees everything. Nothing is
hidden from God.
EX 12:37, NU 1:45-46 The number of men of
military age who take part in the Exodus is
given as more than 600,000. Allowing for
women, children, and older men would
probably mean that a total of about
2,000,000 Israelites left Egypt.
1KI 20:15 All the Israelites, including
children, number only 7000 at a later time.
EX 15:3, 17:16, NU 25:4, 32:14, IS 42:13
God is a man of war--he is fierce and
angry.
RO 15:33, 2CO 13:11, 14, 1JN 4:8, 16 God is
a god of love and peace.
EX 20:1-17 God gave the law directly to
Moses (without using an intermediary).
GA 3:19 The law was ordained through angels
by a mediator (an intermediary).
EX 20:4 God prohibits the making of any
graven images whatsoever.
EX 25:18 God enjoins the making of two
graven images.
EX 20:5, 34:7, NU 14:18, DT 5:9, IS
14:21-22 Children are to suffer for their
parent's sins.
DT 24:16, EZ 18:19-20 Children are not to
suffer for their parent's sins.
EX 20:8-11, 31:15-17, 35:1-3 No work is to
be done on the Sabbath, not even lighting a
fire. The commandment is permanent, and
death is required for infractions.
MK 2:27-28 Jesus says that the Sabbath was
made for man, not man for the Sabbath
(after his disciples were criticized for
breaking the Sabbath).
RO 14:5, CN 2:14-16 Paul says the Sabbath
commandment was temporary, and to decide
for yourself regarding its observance.
EX 20:12, DT 5:16, MT 15:4, 19:19, MK 7:10,
10:19, LK 18:20 Honor your father and your
mother is one of the ten commandments. It
is reinforced by Jesus.
MT 10:35-37, LK 12:51-53, 14:26 Jesus says
that he has come to divide families; that a
man's foes will be those of his own
household; that you must hate your father,
mother, wife, children, brothers, sisters,
and even your own life to be a disciple.
MT 23:9 Jesus says to call no man on earth
your father.
EX 20:13, DT 5:17, MK 10:19, LK 18:20, RO
13:9, JA 2:11 God prohibits killing.
GE 34:1-35:5 God condones trickery and
killing.
EX 32:27, DT 7:2, 13:15, 20:1-18 God orders
killing.
2KI 19:35 An angel of the Lord slaughters
185,000 men.
(Note: See Atrocities section for many more
examples.)
EX 20:14 God prohibits adultery.
HO 1:2 God instructs Hosea to "take a wife
of harlotry."
EX 21:23-25, LE 24:20, DT 19:21 A life for
a life, an eye for an eye, etc.
MT 5:38-44, LK 6:27-29 Turn the other
cheek. Love your enemies.
EX 23:7 God prohibits the killing of the
innocent.
NU 31:17-18, DT 7:2, JS 6:21-27, 7:19-26,
8:22-25, 10:20, 40, 11:8-15, 20, JG
11:30-39, 21:10-12, 1SA 15:3 God orders or
approves the complete extermination of
groups of people which include innocent
women and/or children.
(Note: See Atrocities section for many
other examples of the killing of
innocents.)
EX 34:6, DT 7:9-10, TS 1:2 God is faithful
and truthful. He does not lie.
NU 14:30 God breaks his promise.
EX 34:6, DT 7:9-10, TS 1:2 God is faithful
and truthful. He does not lie.
1KI 22:21-23 God condones a spirit of
deception.
EX 34:6, DT 7:9-10, TS 1:2 God is faithful
and truthful. He does not lie.
2TH 2:11-12 God deludes people, making them
believe what is false, so as to be able to
condemn them. (Note: some versions use the
word persuade here. The context makes
clear, however, that deception is
involved.)
[Mehn! C thousands of errors in just 1 book they claim to b God's word. Christianity itself is blasphemous to God Almighty]
Re: Problems With Biblical Inerrancy by Nobody: 11:06am On Aug 03, 2014
^^^


You are now derailing this article in your typical intolerant Jihadist way.
Re: Problems With Biblical Inerrancy by Nobody: 11:10am On Aug 03, 2014
Bible is just like any other book written by a bunch of powerful people to suit their needs, thats why they killed so many people just to eliminate the real truth about jesus and the rest. Sophisticated christians do not need george gershwin to convince them that the things that you li'ble to read in the bible it aint necessarily so. But there are many unsophisticated christians out there who think it absolutely is necessarily so-who take the bible very seriously indeed as a literal and accurate record of history and hence evidence supporting their religious beliefs. The problem is people are incurious, they dont read, do their homework before coming out to talk. Shouldnt a literalist worry about the fact that matthew traces joseph's descent from king david via 28intermediate generations, while luke has 41generations? Worse, there is almost no overlap in the names on the 2lists. In any case, if jesus was really born of virgin, joseph's ancestry is irrelevant and cannot be used to fufil, on jesus' behalf, the old testament prophecy that the messiah sshould descended from david. To be fair much of the bible is not systematically evil but just plain weird, as you would expect of a chaotically cobbled-together anthology of disjointed documents,composed, revised, translated, distorted and improve by hundreds of anonymous authors spanning nine centuries.

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Re: Problems With Biblical Inerrancy by trigonometry: 11:14am On Aug 03, 2014
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Re: Problems With Biblical Inerrancy by finofaya: 11:20am On Aug 03, 2014
The only problem here is when somebody asks why it is the bible we should just accept by faith, instead of any other book, holy or otherwise.

If you try to answer the question by referring to the bible (which you must do, since christianity is based on only the bible), you will begin to show me verses which say that God is God, or which contain profound knowledge of the world or etc, which amounts to reasoning with me.

If however, you answer by saying that we should also take it on faith, then you have not told us why we shouldn't take our phone manuals on faith instead.

What I'm saying is, there is a point at which you provide an explanation.

texbaba1: you are rigth in ur analysis bro, infact if u start listing all d errors in d bible, u will run out of sheets of paper. However, ar mistaken in d way u look at the bible, u forgt that the bible was written by humans nd ther is nothing infallibility about man. Moreso, dont look at the bible from d point of view of a philosopher looking for truth, or a mathematician trying to solve an equation...it will never add up, or a scientist looking for proof...u sill never find it. The bible is purely a faithbased book nd only to be seen from d point of view of faith...just accept it with faith, not with rationality or empirically. That is why jesus christ used the little children in describing the word of God, bacause little children dont doubt or ask questions, they just love nd believe u in what ever u tell them. So as a christian, just accept the word of God with faith. You ar either a christian or u ar nt.
Re: Problems With Biblical Inerrancy by Nobody: 11:21am On Aug 03, 2014
frosbel:

The blind people are those who read a book only in Arabic even though they do not understand Arabic and then claim it is a miracle. The belief that the Quran is a miracle is a comedic Myth.

Further, why do people who question the Quran either have their heads cut off or are warned not to continue to doubt the Quran. What are your Imams hiding ?
when you ask him that? Ask yourself same too, why did they killed the bradon brothers, scientists(illuminati) in the 14th,15th,16th centuries. Isnt it because of questioning bible stance against science? E.g earth is 6,000yrs old, earth is the centre of the universe, earth is flat in shape. Are all these true? No. Do you know they killed some people that doubted that years ago? Even during martin luther king's time, the punishment for blasphemy,heresy is death. So its not only islam Mr Frosbel.
Re: Problems With Biblical Inerrancy by cold(m): 11:21am On Aug 03, 2014
Joshthefirst: an external source would have to be confirmed by another and another. An endless and foolish cycle.

The bible is a spiritual book written to a specific people of which you are not a part.

Only when you respond to the message will you be able to appreciate and realize the truth the written word provides.

Re: Problems With Biblical Inerrancy by tola9ja: 11:22am On Aug 03, 2014
Islam is the only religion in the world That pray salat and is
in the bible nehemaiah 8:4-6 you can never see christian
converging 2gether I.e jehovah withness worshiping wit
cotholic or redeem with celestial they can't, there bible is
different from one another there is no uniqueness in there
religion. in islam we converge together at the central
mosque all muslim of the world converge at mecca there is
central mosque in all city of the world there is noting like
central church muslim do holy pilgrim to mecca in christian
some goto to jerusalem some to vertican city some goto
rome no uniqueness anyway whoever Al mighty Allah show
s is patch nobody Can miss lead him/her and whoever he
miss lead nobody can lead him/her to the wright patch and
there is only 1 way to paradise use ur brain judiciously don't
let any pastor fool you a word is enough for the wise
Re: Problems With Biblical Inerrancy by Nobody: 11:22am On Aug 03, 2014
Peterken05: when you ask him that? Ask yourself same too, why did they killed the bradon brothers, scientists(illuminati) in the 14th,15th,16th centuries. Isnt it because of questioning bible stance against science? E.g earth is 6,000yrs old, earth is the centre of the universe, earth is flat in shape. Are all these true? No. Do you know they killed some people that doubted that years ago? Even during martin luther king's time, the punishment for blasphemy,heresy is death. So its not only islam Mr Frosbel.

Totally agree, in fact I think hundreds of thousands of people were killed for questioning the Latin Bible and Church doctrine.

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Re: Problems With Biblical Inerrancy by noblejames: 11:23am On Aug 03, 2014
Peterken05: Bible is just like any other book written by a bunch of powerful people to suit their needs, thats why they killed so many people just to eliminate the real truth about jesus and the rest. Sophisticated christians do not need george gershwin to convince them that the things that you li'ble to read in the bible it aint necessarily so. But there are many unsophisticated christians out there who think it absolutely is necessarily so-who take the bible very seriously indeed as a literal and accurate record of history and hence evidence supporting their religious beliefs. The problem is people are incurious, they dont read, do their homework before coming out to talk. Shouldnt a literalist worry about the fact that matthew traces joseph's descent from king david via 28intermediate generations, while luke has 41generations? Worse, there is almost no overlap in the names on the 2lists. In any case, if jesus was really born of virgin, joseph's ancestry is irrelevant and cannot be used to fufil, on jesus' behalf, the old testament prophecy that the messiah sshould descended from david. To be fair much of the bible is not systematically evil but just plain weird, as you would expect of a chaotically cobbled-together anthology of disjointed documents,composed, revised, translated, distorted and improve by hundreds of anonymous authors spanning nine centuries.
A nice trash!
Re: Problems With Biblical Inerrancy by shejane: 11:23am On Aug 03, 2014
If u know frosbel very well, believe me u will not argue bible with him cos is meaningless to do so

That kid kws exactly what he's doing and where he's from

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