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Re: The Scientific Facts: The Biblical Evidence by Liekiller(f): 8:34pm On Sep 14, 2014 |
Macelliot: 1. Only in recent years has Your idea of science is that of the 19th century, and so are the scientific results you pull out of their context here to "prove" whatever point you believe you have. They are not from "recent" years oo. Science has moved WAY beyond this. You just seem to have missed the past 120 years of research? |
Re: The Scientific Facts: The Biblical Evidence by farem: 8:37pm On Sep 14, 2014 |
[color=#990000][/color] firstolalekan: op, keeping deceiving yourself on an adulterated and doctored story book written by men with myopic view.You have to prove that you have finished reading and comprehended TODAY'S BIBLE and compared it with 'your' YESTERDAY'S BIBLE. IF you cannot do this you are the most disillusioned entity ever lived! |
Re: The Scientific Facts: The Biblical Evidence by Nobody: 8:43pm On Sep 14, 2014 |
musicwriter:back to our discussion, what can you say about issac newton? Tell me something. |
Re: The Scientific Facts: The Biblical Evidence by Nobody: 8:47pm On Sep 14, 2014 |
Majority of the biblical stories were stolen from ancient Babylon, e.g the flood stories,Moses and Tower of babel.The bible is a joke,but fools will take Mythology serious anyway and even build a faith around it. 2 Likes |
Re: The Scientific Facts: The Biblical Evidence by musicwriter(m): 8:53pm On Sep 14, 2014 |
Peterken05: back to our discussion, what can you say about issac newton? Tell me something. I don't make argument with folks like you cause you argue erratically. First, what do you have to say about the scientists reading bible on the moon?. Isaac Newton literally researched Physics with the bible side-by-side and even hinted when Jesus Christ may return using advanced calculus (maths). Of course this's information modern day science don't want you to know, but history will. Isaac Newton religious views. Details: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Isaac_Newton Isaac Newton predict world will end in 2060. Details: http://opentheword.org/2013/10/16/sir-isaac-newton-predicted-world-would-end-in-2060-ad/ Find the biography of Isaac Newton and read it. I've done so. Or better help yourself with google. You may begin by searching "did Isaac Newton believe in God?". Hope you get help. |
Re: The Scientific Facts: The Biblical Evidence by haffaze777(m): 10:49pm On Sep 14, 2014 |
kilokeys: oya atheists dem.. check this out... those are not Christian name but general Yoruba name |
Re: The Scientific Facts: The Biblical Evidence by Mavrick2012: 11:16pm On Sep 14, 2014 |
Macelliot:LOL yes sir,all is well,just suprise that a topic as important as the "heart can think" has not been conventionally recorgnised.i have even gone further to ask seven medical personel but it seems to sound strange to them all. |
Re: The Scientific Facts: The Biblical Evidence by Mavrick2012: 11:22pm On Sep 14, 2014 |
BossTtdiamonds:Am sorry sir,you sound relatively convoluted.What do i believe?please explain sir |
Re: The Scientific Facts: The Biblical Evidence by edrisworld(m): 12:18am On Sep 15, 2014 |
lincolnj88: Nice post but you are not doing justice to your copy and paste. You should first understand that its written in arabic and you have to compare translation to give you a better meaning. For your first argument that the woman is not mentioned. In quran 76:2 you mentioned earlier the word there is nutfah and if you check Lane’s Lexicon of classical Arabic it means a Sperm of a man and of a woman or mixture quantity. Also some other translation uses nuftah as mixture. With that being said even if the woman is not mentioned explicitly that doesnt mean theres a contradiction or no point there.. You should understand that holy books are not science text books that gives all the details but they are more like pointing your reasoning into it as an ayat (sign).. For example if i tell you i create my bed from wood, does that mean i didnt add nails or gums or spray to the bed.. Its only an error when i say i created my bed ONLY from wood.. ref (Verily, We have created man from Nutfah Amshaj,) meaning, mixed. The words Mashaj and Mashij mean something that is mixed together. Ibn `Abbas said concerning Allah’s statement, (from Nutfah Amshaj,) "This means the fluid of the man and the fluid of the woman when they meet and mix.” Then man changes after this from stage to stage, condition to condition and color to color. `Ikrimah, Mujahid, Al-Hasan and Ar-Rabi` bin Anas all made statements similar to this. They said, "Amshaj is the mixing of the man’s fluid with the woman’s fluid.” Ibn Kathir on 76:2 Second point.. the word here again is Alaqa which have a variety of meaning.. and the commonly used one is clot of blood and also something that clings or a leach like substance.. Once you understand this then you will understand that that thing actually clings.. No translation is infallible thats why its important to get to the root of words sometimes. For example not too long ago being called gay means being bright but now you know what being called gay actually means but that doesnt mean the 2 or 1 is wrong.. It simply means use the right one for the right context if the other doesnt fit in well.. sahih Internation uses the word cling btw. Finally you do know keith moore which was a leading profesor in embryology confirms that aspect in the quran.. Thats a neutral source. |
Re: The Scientific Facts: The Biblical Evidence by lincolnj88: 6:55am On Sep 15, 2014 |
edrisworld:u are still lacking d explanation I needed.... |
Re: The Scientific Facts: The Biblical Evidence by Macelliot(m): 8:38am On Sep 15, 2014 |
Mavrick2012: LOLEven the question sounds strange to me either. |
Re: The Scientific Facts: The Biblical Evidence by Macelliot(m): 8:59am On Sep 15, 2014 |
Liekiller:How? |
Re: The Scientific Facts: The Biblical Evidence by Nobody: 8:59am On Sep 15, 2014 |
lincolnj88:I would reply your allegations against the facts about the human embryonic stages mentioned in the Qur'an later when I finish my exams. As a sensible individual and an aspiring physicist, I wouldn't use scientific explanations of physical phenomena to verify the ones provided in the holy Qur'an. Since God is All-Knowing and He's the Creator of all things, so when He says in the Quran or in the Gospel given to Jesus (the real Bible) that He creates man through the mentioned developmental stages, the claim needs no verification ; shouldn't the One that creates know everything about His creatures? I would rather cross-check scientific explanations with the ones in the Qur'an, keepind in mind that the Qur'an is not a science manual but a guide for men. Even though, in this age, Science has recorded several breakthroughs which are epoch-making, I believe It's still immature. There are still many questions begging for answers- what is soul? How does it leave the body at death? What is death? Is our perception about death valid? What is the relationship between the soul, the mind and the body? Is there really an entity called God? Or do things occur in nature accidentally? What are the true facts about the origin and the evolution of the universe? And so many more. Attempts are being made at present to solve these puzzles in the new field called Noetic Science. By the time Scientists provide answers to these questions, by the time Science merges with Religion(because they are one), then one doesn't need to convince an atheist or an agnostic or even a sceptic of the existence of God. Since this would have proven empirically by scientists. |
Re: The Scientific Facts: The Biblical Evidence by Macelliot(m): 9:06am On Sep 15, 2014 |
UrbanMystique: [s]Wonderful load of craps[/b]Hater!!! When religion says, you won't believe. But when Science says, you will believe. Yet tommorow, science will disaprove the former research with another new findings. Still yet, you will believe. You see ur life! |
Re: The Scientific Facts: The Biblical Evidence by Macelliot(m): 9:06am On Sep 15, 2014 |
UrbanMystique: Wonderful load of craps |
Re: The Scientific Facts: The Biblical Evidence by edrisworld(m): 9:31am On Sep 15, 2014 |
lincolnj88: u are still lacking d explanation I needed.... Well maybe its because you want to believe the things you only want to believe.. My explanation about alaqa is well known and about the woman i told you about nutfah i even gave you a reliable neutral source for translation and a professor with reputation in embryology.. and some examples.. Anyway just realize and i will repeat that holy books are not science text books that gives all the details but they are more like pointing your reasoning into it as an ayat (sign). |
Re: The Scientific Facts: The Biblical Evidence by ea7(m): 9:34am On Sep 15, 2014 |
Macelliot:Shockingly enough, scientific theories that are widely accepted don't get disprove. Just built upon. By the way, science isn't a person and as such cannot "say" anything. It is a method. Do try to keep up here. |
Re: The Scientific Facts: The Biblical Evidence by ea7(m): 9:37am On Sep 15, 2014 |
Macelliot:P.s I totally agree with you. I'm actually the Son of Thor. But no one believes me. Filthy infidels. One day I'll strike them all down, today I'm going drinking with my best bud Hercules. What's that? Just because someone says something doesn't make it true? Oh dear! K might actually have to prove stuff with evidence?! What arrogance. If a religion says something it's true darn it. All the religions. At once. Even if they disagree. They're all true. |
Re: The Scientific Facts: The Biblical Evidence by Nobody: 10:00am On Sep 15, 2014 |
ARES: One day science will discover what faith already knows Lol....when will dat be? When science discover the cure for HIV/Aids? Or a cure for cancer? Or find solutions to mankind problems? Why won't science find solutions to poverty? Why shld science measure itself with God? How wise? Read about the origin of science...you'd get to know that it started in the church and so....It was set to prove that most things weren't done from God...science defines atheist! Its pathetic! Am a graduate of pure physics and most scientific theories and principies are just to measure itself with God.... Using the genetical scientists and medical physicists to see if man can create or clone A HUMAN. Do you know that the American govt has been secretely developing robots/A.H (artificial human) that will be destructive above human's imagination? I wouldn't go into details! Time will tell. |
Re: The Scientific Facts: The Biblical Evidence by UrbanMystique: 10:06am On Sep 15, 2014 |
Macelliot:and the craps continue |
Re: The Scientific Facts: The Biblical Evidence by Mavrick2012: 10:08am On Sep 15, 2014 |
Macelliot:lol. you know i know and i know you know that the question is VERY MUCH comprehensible. But since the question is "strange",please give me another site/material that says "the heart can think". sir,its not enough to just post any site and you expect everybody to accept it hook-line-and-sinker because its from a "site".Their are loads of baldadash on net,i mean totally irrational and false infos on net,thats why i like going with a widely recorgnised information,eg united nation or government recorgnised. A dude once told me(on facebook)that pope benedict 13th was killed because he converted to islam,he even backed it with a site,but when i checked wiki i didnt see anything like that. |
Re: The Scientific Facts: The Biblical Evidence by brainbox2014(m): 11:50am On Sep 15, 2014 |
....Just wonder why people (especially Nigerians) keep quarrelling (especially on social platforms and online forums) over contrasts of beliefs when it is certain that everyone will die one day and end up believing one thing. Regardless of what you believe, the TRUTH is the TRUTH and it changes not...so why not seek to live in harmony instead and respect others. The best way to propagate your ideas is through love, not disparaging remarks. 1 Like |
Re: The Scientific Facts: The Biblical Evidence by NumberOne2(m): 9:44am On Sep 16, 2014 |
3. At a time when it was believed that the earth sat on a large animal or a giant (1500 B.C.), the Bible spoke of the earth’s free float in space: "HE hangs the earth upon One of my favourite bible quotes. How did Job know the earth hangs on nothing... Bible scholars will tell you that Job happens to be one of the oldest books in the bible. |
Re: The Scientific Facts: The Biblical Evidence by Macelliot(m): 5:25pm On Sep 16, 2014 |
Mavrick2012: lol.Thanks alot! Obviously, I can't conclude on whether the Heart can think or not due to many unclear circumstances. What's ur own view of it? |
Re: The Scientific Facts: The Biblical Evidence by Macelliot(m): 5:29pm On Sep 16, 2014 |
UrbanMystique: and the craps continuewhat a shame! |
Re: The Scientific Facts: The Biblical Evidence by Macelliot(m): 5:40pm On Sep 16, 2014 |
ea7:k. It might get disaprove tommorow... There are three states of matter which is widely recognised, but some new researches are proving that there are four states of matter... Hmmm? |
Re: The Scientific Facts: The Biblical Evidence by macof(m): 6:01pm On Sep 16, 2014 |
kalufelix: God is nature... Religion only hijacked ancient spiritual concepts and added it's ridiculous dogmas eg. belief in Jesus, a dead jew or rot in hell, pray in his name or ur prayers don't get answered, knock ur head on d ground facing the kabba and proclaim Mohamed, a pedophile Arab as a man from God etc Religion is nothing but a waste of time 2 Likes |
Re: The Scientific Facts: The Biblical Evidence by macof(m): 6:11pm On Sep 16, 2014 |
shollynoob: In this Life u must believe something, if you believe in God, you ll believe in something else by default, Trust me, there is no Science invention that was made by mere Man, its either a Spiritualist of some sort or a core Christian. Mr n Mrs atheist, if you don't believe in God, you can't doubt the existence of Spiritual being. So why believe in creations and despise the Creator? Wat is spiritual being?? You should know that wat spirituality calls spirits is what science calls energy. So where religion gets it wrong is by taking the tales of a "God" literally and building a blind faith around a myth that has no reality This is why religion is a waste of time, it is only the pollution of the concepts of ancient spiritualities 3 Likes |
Re: The Scientific Facts: The Biblical Evidence by macof(m): 6:46pm On Sep 16, 2014 |
Macelliot:Yes, that's the beauty of science and spirituality. It is progressive, the universe is so vast that we need to keep searching and keep growing in consciousness While religion is fixed, the religious mind doesn't care for knowledge because he is forced to settle for the dogmas of his religion as fixed centuries ago 2 Likes |
Re: The Scientific Facts: The Biblical Evidence by Nobody: 6:51pm On Sep 16, 2014 |
macof: if Spirituality is what Science called Energy then it ll be better to call it Spiritual Energy(Form of Energy), which makes more sense. Well, just put it this way Science is your Faith. |
Re: The Scientific Facts: The Biblical Evidence by macof(m): 7:21pm On Sep 16, 2014 |
shollynoob:Read my post again. You didn't get it Every man must have faith, it's our nature. But then question ur faith once in a while to achieve a better understanding on wat the whole concept is about, u could even realize u understand it better than where you first heard it from. The Christian mind doesn't question the Christian dogmas, hence there's no guarantee that this is truth either by logic or experience which prompts me to tag the Christian belief as Hope rather than faith |
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