Macelliot: 1. Only in recent years has
science discovered thateverything we see iscomposed of invisible atoms. Here, Scripture tells us that the "things which are seen were not made of things which do
appear."
2. Medical science has only recently discovered that blood-clotting in a newborn reaches its peak on the eighth day, then drops. The Bible consistently says that a baby must be circumcised on the eighth day.

3. At a time when it was believed that the earth sat on a large animal or a giant (1500 B.C.), the Bible spoke of the earth’s free float in space: "HE hangs the earth upon
nothing" (Job 26:7).


4. The prophet Isaiah also tells us that the earth is round: "It is he that sits upon the circle of the earth" (Isaiah 40:22). This
is not a reference to a flat disk, as some skeptic maintain, but to a sphere.
Secular man discovered this 2,400 years later. At a time when science believed that the earth was flat, is was the Scriptures that inspired Christopher Columbus to sail around the world (see
Proverbs 3:6 footnote).


5. God told Job in 1500 B.C.: "Can you send lightnings, that they may go, and say to you, Here we are?" (Job 38:35). The
Bible here is making what appears to be a
scientifically ludicrous
statement—that light can be sent, and then
manifest itself in speech.
But did you know that
radio waves travel at the speed of light? This is why you can have instantaneous wireless communication with
someone on the other
side of the earth. Science didn’t discover this until
1864 when "British
scientist James Clerk
Maxwell suggested that electricity and light waves were two forms of the same thing" (Modern Century Illustrated
Encyclopedia).


6. Job 38:19 asks, "Where
is the way where light
dwells?" Modern man has only recently discovered that light
(electromagnetic
radiation) has a "way," traveling at 186,000 miles per second.


7. Science has discovered that stars emit radio waves, which are received
on earth as a high pitch.
God mentioned this in Job 38:7: "When the morning stars sang together..."


8. "Most cosmologists
(scientists who study the structures and evolution of the universe) agree
that the Genesis account of creation, in imagining an initial void, may be uncannily close to the
truth" (Time, Dec. 1976).


9. Solomon described a
"cycle" of air currents two thousand years before scientists "discovered" them. "The wind goes toward the south, and
turns about unto the
north; it whirls about
continually, and the wind returns again according to his
circuits" (Ecclesiastes 1:6).


10. Science expresses the
universe in five terms:
time, space, matter,
power, and motion.
Genesis 1:1,2 revealed
such truths to the
Hebrews in 1450 B.C.: " In the beginning [time] God
created [power] the
heaven [space] and the earth [matter] . . . And the Spirit of God moved [motion] upon the face of the waters." The first thing God tells man is that He controls of all aspects of the universe.


11. The great biological truth concerning the
importance of blood in our body’s mechanism
has been fully
comprehended only in
recent years. Up until 120 years ago, sick people were "bled," and many died because of the
practice. If you lose your blood, you lose your life.
Yet Leviticus 17:11,
written 3,000 years ago, declared that blood is the source of life: "For the life
of the flesh is in the
blood."


12. All things were made by Him (see John 1:3),
including dinosaurs. Why then did the dinosaur disappear? The answer may be in Job 40:15–24.
In this passage, God
speaks about a great
creature called "behemoth." Some
commentators think this was a hippopotamus.
However, the hippo’s tail isn’t like a large tree, but a small twig. Following are the characteristics of
this huge animal: It was the largest of all the creatures God made; was plant-eating (herbivorous); had its strength in its hips and a tail like a large tree. It had very strong bones, lived among the trees, drank massive amounts of water, and was not disturbed by a raging river. He appears impervious to attack because his nose could pierce through snares, but
Scripture says, "He that made him can make his sword to approach unto
him." In other words, God caused this, the largest of all the creatures He had
made, to become extinct.


14. Luke 17:34–36 says
the Second Coming of
Jesus Christ will occur
while some are asleep at night and others are working at daytime activities in the field. This
is a clear indication of arevolving earth, with day and night at the same time.
http://www.livingwaters.com/witnessingtool/scientificfactsintheBible.shtml

firstolalekan: op, keeping deceiving yourself on an adulterated and doctored story book written by men with myopic view.
The[b] today's bible[/b] has many absurd flaws.

musicwriter:

Obviously, you don't know me.

I'm in better position to educate you. Keep the middle ages believe argument cause that doesn't make sense.

You folks always feel embarrassed when reminded names of great scientists who did believe in God.

And, did I tell you the first men on the moon did recite Genesis chapter 1 immediately on landing on the moon?. Of course you know what that means.

The first men on the moon reading Genesis chapter 1 - 10.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwI4s97S_fQ


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vU5QwuYKIgQ

More details: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_8_Genesis_reading

This are facts. And all you have to do is deal with it.

Peterken05: back to our discussion, what can you say about issac newton? Tell me something.

kilokeys: oya atheists dem.. check this out..

what amazes me is the fact that most atheists on NL have Christian names.. like oluwaseun, modupe, et al..


very funny..

Macelliot:
Why do u wanna know? Hope all is well?

BossTtdiamonds:

Please a question for you sir. What do you believe?

lincolnj88:
Try read nd understand......if u can't understand this den u nid help.....nd abt quran error in embryonic development ,below are lists of dem

Embryology[edit]
Main Article: Embryology in the Qur'an

The Qur'an and Hadith contain statements about bodily fluids and the stages of development of the human embryo. Many of these descriptions are vague and unscientific. Most bare a striking resemblance to similar descriptions found in the Jewish Talmud and the ideas of ancient Greeks such as Galen, including their errors.
Sperm Originates Between the Backbone and Ribs[edit]
Main Article: Qur'an and Semen Production

The Qur'an states, incorrectly, that semen originates from a spot between the backbone and ribs. Today we know sperm comes from the testicles and semen from the pelvic region, which is not between the spine and ribs.
He is created from a drop emitted- Proceeding from between the backbone and the ribs
Qur'an 86:6-7
Embryo is Formed from Male and Female Fluids[edit]
Main Article: Greek and Jewish Ideas about Reproduction in the Quran and Hadith

The author of the Qur'an describes the formation of a human embryo from fluids emanating from the man (and possibly also of the woman). This reflects the contemporary, but incorrect, view that the embryo is initially formed out of semen stored in the womb. In fact, semen is the vehicle for the sperm cells, one of which fuses with a woman's ovum in her fallopian tube, and the resulting cell divides and travels back into the womb for implantation. While English translations mention a "drop of seed", or "drop of sperm", the Arabic word in question literally means a small amount of liquid, a euphemism for semen.
Did We not create you from a liquid disdained? And We placed it in a firm lodging For a known extent.
Qur'an 77:20-22
From what thing doth He create him? From a drop of seed. He createth him and proportioneth him
Qur'an 80:18-19
Verily We created Man from a drop of mingled sperm [nutfatin amshajin], in order to try him: So We gave him (the gifts), of Hearing and Sight.
Qur'an 76:2
No Mention of Female Ovum[edit]

The Qur'an's author did not mention the role of the ovum in human reproduction and appears to have no knowledge of it. This verse fails to mention the important role of the female egg, or ovum, plays in the reproduction of humankind. It implies that reproduction is caused simply by the male semen. The human ovum is very small, though visible to the human eye, and it's purpose wasn't understood in the 7th century. Again, we are left wondering why an all-knowing deity would omit such information.
He is created from a drop emitted
Qur'an 25:45
Humans Created from a Clot of Blood[edit]
Main Article: Embryology in Islamic Scripture

The Qur'an and Hadith depict that humans are formed from a clot of blood. There was never a stage in embryonic development where humans are formed into a clot of blood. This description is likely influenced by an unscientific and primitive understanding of human reproduction based on observations from an early-term miscarriage and a woman's menstrual cycle.
Created man, out of a (mere) clot of congealed blood:
Qur'an 96:2
Narrated 'Abdullah bin Mus'ud: “Allah's Apostle, the true and truly inspired said, "(The matter of the Creation of) a human being is put together in the womb of the mother in forty days, and then he becomes a clot of thick blood for a similar period, and then a piece of flesh for a similar period.”
Sahih Bukhari 4:54:4

edrisworld:

Nice post but you are not doing justice to your copy and paste. You should first understand that its written in arabic and you have to compare translation to give you a better meaning.

For your first argument that the woman is not mentioned. In quran 76:2 you mentioned earlier the word there is nutfah and if you check Lane’s Lexicon of classical Arabic it means a Sperm of a man and of a woman or mixture quantity. Also some other translation uses nuftah as mixture. With that being said even if the woman is not mentioned explicitly that doesnt mean theres a contradiction or no point there.. You should understand that holy books are not science text books that gives all the details but they are more like pointing your reasoning into it as an ayat (sign).. For example if i tell you i create my bed from wood, does that mean i didnt add nails or gums or spray to the bed.. Its only an error when i say i created my bed ONLY from wood..

ref

(Verily, We have created man from Nutfah Amshaj,) meaning, mixed. The words Mashaj and Mashij mean something that is mixed together. Ibn `Abbas said concerning Allah’s statement,
(from Nutfah Amshaj,) "This means the fluid of the man and the fluid of the woman when they meet and mix.” Then man changes after this from stage to stage, condition to condition and color to color. `Ikrimah, Mujahid, Al-Hasan and Ar-Rabi` bin Anas all made statements similar to this. They said, "Amshaj is the mixing of the man’s fluid with the woman’s fluid.”

Ibn Kathir on 76:2

Second point.. the word here again is Alaqa which have a variety of meaning.. and the commonly used one is clot of blood and also something that clings or a leach like substance.. Once you understand this then you will understand that that thing actually clings.. No translation is infallible thats why its important to get to the root of words sometimes. For example not too long ago being called gay means being bright but now you know what being called gay actually means but that doesnt mean the 2 or 1 is wrong.. It simply means use the right one for the right context if the other doesnt fit in well..

sahih Internation uses the word cling btw.

Finally you do know keith moore which was a leading profesor in embryology confirms that aspect in the quran.. Thats a neutral source.

Mavrick2012: LOL
yes sir,all is well,just suprise that a topic as important as the "heart can think" has not been conventionally recorgnised.i have even gone further to ask seven medical personel but it seems to sound strange to them all.

Liekiller:

Your idea of science is that of the 19th century, and so are the scientific results you pull out of their context here to "prove" whatever point you believe you have. They are not from "recent" years oo. Science has moved WAY beyond this. You just seem to have missed the past 120 years of research?

lincolnj88:
Try read nd understand......if u can't understand this den u nid help.....nd abt quran error in embryonic development ,below are lists of dem

Embryology[edit]
Main Article: Embryology in the Qur'an

The Qur'an and Hadith contain statements about bodily fluids and the stages of development of the human embryo. Many of these descriptions are vague and unscientific. Most bare a striking resemblance to similar descriptions found in the Jewish Talmud and the ideas of ancient Greeks such as Galen, including their errors.
Sperm Originates Between the Backbone and Ribs[edit]
Main Article: Qur'an and Semen Production

The Qur'an states, incorrectly, that semen originates from a spot between the backbone and ribs. Today we know sperm comes from the testicles and semen from the pelvic region, which is not between the spine and ribs.
He is created from a drop emitted- Proceeding from between the backbone and the ribs
Qur'an 86:6-7
Embryo is Formed from Male and Female Fluids[edit]
Main Article: Greek and Jewish Ideas about Reproduction in the Quran and Hadith

The author of the Qur'an describes the formation of a human embryo from fluids emanating from the man (and possibly also of the woman). This reflects the contemporary, but incorrect, view that the embryo is initially formed out of semen stored in the womb. In fact, semen is the vehicle for the sperm cells, one of which fuses with a woman's ovum in her fallopian tube, and the resulting cell divides and travels back into the womb for implantation. While English translations mention a "drop of seed", or "drop of sperm", the Arabic word in question literally means a small amount of liquid, a euphemism for semen.
Did We not create you from a liquid disdained? And We placed it in a firm lodging For a known extent.
Qur'an 77:20-22
From what thing doth He create him? From a drop of seed. He createth him and proportioneth him
Qur'an 80:18-19
Verily We created Man from a drop of mingled sperm [nutfatin amshajin], in order to try him: So We gave him (the gifts), of Hearing and Sight.
Qur'an 76:2
No Mention of Female Ovum[edit]

The Qur'an's author did not mention the role of the ovum in human reproduction and appears to have no knowledge of it. This verse fails to mention the important role of the female egg, or ovum, plays in the reproduction of humankind. It implies that reproduction is caused simply by the male semen. The human ovum is very small, though visible to the human eye, and it's purpose wasn't understood in the 7th century. Again, we are left wondering why an all-knowing deity would omit such information.
He is created from a drop emitted
Qur'an 25:45
Humans Created from a Clot of Blood[edit]
Main Article: Embryology in Islamic Scripture

The Qur'an and Hadith depict that humans are formed from a clot of blood. There was never a stage in embryonic development where humans are formed into a clot of blood. This description is likely influenced by an unscientific and primitive understanding of human reproduction based on observations from an early-term miscarriage and a woman's menstrual cycle.
Created man, out of a (mere) clot of congealed blood:
Qur'an 96:2
Narrated 'Abdullah bin Mus'ud: “Allah's Apostle, the true and truly inspired said, "(The matter of the Creation of) a human being is put together in the womb of the mother in forty days, and then he becomes a clot of thick blood for a similar period, and then a piece of flesh for a similar period.”
Sahih Bukhari 4:54:4

UrbanMystique: [s]Wonderful load of craps[/b]

UrbanMystique: Wonderful load of craps

lincolnj88: u are still lacking d explanation I needed....

Macelliot:
Hater!!!
When religion says, you won't believe. But when Science says, you will believe. Yet tommorow, science will disaprove the former research with another new findings. Still yet, you will believe.
You see ur life!

Macelliot:
Hater!!!
When religion says, you won't believe. But when Science says, you will believe. Yet tommorow, science will disaprove the former research with another new findings. Still yet, you will believe.
You see ur life!

ARES: One day science will discover what faith already knows

Macelliot:
Hater!!!
When religion says, you won't believe. But when Science says, you will believe. Yet tommorow, science will disaprove the former research with another new findings. Still yet, you will believe.
You see ur life!

Macelliot:
Even the question sounds strange to me either.

3. At a time when it was believed that the earth sat on a large animal or a giant (1500 B.C.), the Bible spoke of the earth’s free float in space: "HE hangs the earth upon
nothing" (Job 26:7).

Mavrick2012: lol.
you know i know and i know you know that the question is VERY MUCH comprehensible.
But since the question is "strange",please give me another site/material that says "the heart can think".
sir,its not enough to just post any site and you expect everybody to accept it hook-line-and-sinker because its from a "site".Their are loads of baldadash on net,i mean totally irrational and false infos on net,thats why i like going with a widely recorgnised information,eg united nation or government recorgnised.
A dude once told me(on facebook)that pope benedict 13th was killed because he converted to islam,he even backed it with a site,but when i checked wiki i didnt see anything like that.

UrbanMystique: and the craps continue

ea7:
Shockingly enough, scientific theories that are widely accepted don't get disprove. Just built upon. By the way, science isn't a person and as such cannot "say" anything. It is a method. Do try to keep up here.

kalufelix: God is nature...
God is supreme...

Dont know bou religion...

shollynoob: In this Life u must believe something, if you believe in God, you ll believe in something else by default, Trust me, there is no Science invention that was made by mere Man, its either a Spiritualist of some sort or a core Christian. Mr n Mrs atheist, if you don't believe in God, you can't doubt the existence of Spiritual being. So why believe in creations and despise the Creator?

Macelliot:
Hater!!!
When religion says, you won't believe. But when Science says, you will believe. Yet tommorow, science will disaprove the former research with another new findings. Still yet, you will believe.
You see ur life!

macof:

Wat is spiritual being?? You should know that wat spirituality calls spirits is what science calls energy.

So where religion gets it wrong is by taking the tales of a "God" literally and building a blind faith around a myth that has no reality

This is why religion is a waste of time, it is only the pollution of the concepts of ancient spiritualities

shollynoob:


if Spirituality is what Science called Energy then it ll be better to call it Spiritual Energy(Form of Energy), which makes more sense. Well, just put it this way Science is your Faith.