Izontubo: The apc people blowing there trumpets here have also bought guns ooo...hypocrites shouting at the top of there voice...all I clamour for is that nigeria divides...

How you go take divide nigeria if given the chance, Oya divide am make I see.

One scandal after another. This government is determined to defeat itself at the polls. I cannot see any reason for this except to add further voice to those who feel a lot of people are profiting from this conflict. I can name at least a dozen countries that will gladly donate the kind of weapons we need to handle BH. There is no need for this.

khattab02: bia, can you tell us how it is clear the American governtment are doing that

I mean with cogent and reasonable proves not hearsay.

The truth is not far fetched.

Why has the US Government remained mute over this weighty allegation?

If it's not true, then, let the US Government tell us the truth.

successking:


The truth is not far fetched.

Why has the US Government remained mute over this weighty allegation?

If it's not true, then, let the US Government tell us the truth.

Lmao You really think with all the other problems going on around the world, the fact that a bunch of Africans have chosen to self-destruct by stealing their country blind and promoting religious and tribal bigotry should be our main concern?!

Respond?! Our Presidency is not made up of clowns that respond to every jeer or cheer from the crowd. We simply don't have enough time in the day for that.

People commenting on this thread are just wasting their time. Nigeria has no shame. This is a big disgrace to Nigeria and all the retired Military officers serving in the present government. This government is a failure and only mediocre who are embezzling the wealth are enjoying themselves.

For an information to every Nigerian on this medium, Nigeria has military officers on diplomatic appointment in various countries. They are called Defence Attache, Deputy Defence Attache and some other military office holders. Also, Nigeria Intelligence Agency (NIA) has officers in some countries as well. The duties of these officers are strictly defence and intelligence relationship management between Nigeria and those countries.

What happened in South Africa without the Knowledge of defence and NIA team in South Africa and the South Africa military and intelligence agency leading to gross embarrassment of Nigeria as a country and intelligent Nigerians is a case of greediness and great corruption in this government.

God will judge. I rest my case.

manny4life:

What in the world are you talking about? Is SWIFT owned by the the U.S.? Is SWIFT monitored / operated by the U.S.? Is the clearing house in the U.S.? What has the U.S. Govt got to do with SWIFT? Please don't throw acronyms you have no idea what is all about. SWIFT is a network that enables banks worldwide to exchange financial transaction information. IT IS NOT A CLEARING OR SETTLEMENT HOUSE.

Most of the funds transfers in today's business environment is done through SWIFT because of its widely acceptance due to openness and transparency upon which the funds are transferred.

Making reference to SWIFT was never a mistake or using word out of context, it's just that you lack understanding.

ISpiksDaTroof: Lmao You really think with all the other problems going on around the world, the fact that a bunch of Africans have chosen to self-destruct by stealing their country blind and promoting religious and tribal bigotry should be our main concern?!

Respond?! Our Presidency is not made up of clowns that respond to every jeer or cheer from the crowd. We simply don't have enough time in the day for that.

You can post anything that pleases you, but remember, until US Government opens up over this matter, whatever claims of the Nigerian Government remains indisputable.

wirelessmaster: People commenting on this thread are just wasting their time. Nigeria has no shame. This is a big disgrace to Nigeria and all the retired Military officers serving in the present government. This government is a failure and only mediocre who are embezzling the wealth are enjoying themselves.

For an information to every Nigerian on this medium, Nigeria has military officers on diplomatic appointment in various countries. They are called Defence Attache, Deputy Defence Attache and some other military office holders. Also, Nigeria Intelligence Agency (NIA) has officers in some countries as well. The duties of these officers are strictly defence and intelligence relationship management between Nigeria and those countries.

What happened in South Africa without the Knowledge of defence and NIA team in South Africa and the South Africa military and intelligence agency leading to gross embarrassment of Nigeria as a country and intelligent Nigerians is a case of greediness and great corruption in this government.

God will judge. I rest my case.

People like you are the reason why Nigeria is being disgraced because anger has blinded you.

successking:


People like you are the reason why Nigeria is being disgraced because anger has blinded you.

You are uninformed. The topic under discussion is not your constituency. You are one of the mediocre benefiting from the rot in the system.

The post below is small but weighty. Those who know the system understand what I said.

People commenting on this thread are just wasting their time. Nigeria has no shame. This is a big disgrace to Nigeria and all the retired Military officers serving in the present government. This government is a failure and only mediocre who are embezzling the wealth are enjoying themselves.

For an information to every Nigerian on this medium, Nigeria has military officers on diplomatic appointment in various countries. They are called Defence Attache, Deputy Defence Attache and some other military office holders. Also, Nigeria Intelligence Agency (NIA) has officers in some countries as well. The duties of these officers are strictly defence and intelligence relationship management between Nigeria and those countries.

What happened in South Africa without the Knowledge of defence and NIA team in South Africa and the South Africa military and intelligence agency leading to gross embarrassment of Nigeria as a country and intelligent Nigerians is a case of greediness and great corruption in this government.

God will judge. I rest my case.

successking:


Most of the funds transfers in today's business environment is done through SWIFT because of its widely acceptance due to openness and transparency upon which the funds are transferred.

Making reference to SWIFT was never a mistake or using word out of context, it's just that you lack understanding.

You sir, is bereft of wisdom and lack the understanding of what SWIFT is. If you had ANY CLUE on SWIFT: what it is and how it works, you wouldn't have made such a reference to the U.S. You wrote "How can a reasonable person transfer money meant for arms through "SWIFT" when it is clear that the American Govt has taken it upon herself....?" What does that infer? Mr. context, please explain in your own words the reason why a person can't transfer money via SWIFT "IF IT IS LEGAL" and heck, please explain, what is the relationship between money transfer via SWIFT and the American Govt..Just in case you forgot what you wrote, here it is again...

successking:


Stop this ranting and be sensible for once!

Why do you find it difficult to comprehend from all these stories about the arm deal making the round?

How can a reasonable person transfer money meant for arms through swift when it is clear that the American Government has taken it upon herself to block all ways to secure arms to fight insecurity in Nigeria so as to ensure that her prediction about Nigeria's brake up in 2015 is fulfilled?

The level of your bitterness cannot change the truth.

Btw, is arms dealing not a trade? Don't U.S., Russian and Chinese companies and their govt trade in arms? How is the settlement done? Through the backdoor right? Why can't the Nigerian govt, just like others do not transfer money through that same system? Answer that question and then come back with another answer... For once, CONDEMN THIS ACT. As much as I like GEJ, his officials goofed on this one... Period. If it wasn't that Nigerian Govt was involved, this is a clear case of money laundering.

manny4life:

You sir, is bereft of wisdom and lack the understanding of what SWIFT is. If you had ANY CLUE on SWIFT: what it is and how it works, you wouldn't have made such a reference to the U.S. You wrote "How can a reasonable person transfer money meant for arms through "SWIFT" when it is clear that the American Govt has taken it upon herself....?" What does that infer? Mr. context, please explain in your own words the reason why a person can't transfer money via SWIFT "IF IT IS LEGAL" and heck, please explain, what is the relationship between money transfer via SWIFT and the American Govt..Just in case you forgot what you wrote, here it is again...


The funds cannot be transferred through swift because US has refused to supply arms to Nigeria and relentlessly fighting to ensure no country supplies the needed arms to Nigeria.

What else do you expect the Government to do, fold her arms and watch BH take over Nigeria on the account US's refusal to let arms get to Nigeria?




Btw, is arms dealing not a trade? Don't U.S., Russian and Chinese companies and their govt trade in arms? How is the settlement done? Through the backdoor right? Why can't the Nigerian govt, just like others do not transfer money through that same system? Answer that question and then come back with another answer... For once, CONDEMN THIS ACT. As much as I like GEJ, his officials goofed on this one... Period. If it wasn't that Nigerian Govt was involved, this is a clear case of money laundering.

The settlement of the arms cannot go the same way other countries do, because the country (US)that believes she has equal power with God is poised to ensure that Nigeria is divided in 2015 through blocking of arms shipment to Nigeria.

Rilwayne001: Cock and bull story

[size=15pt] LIARS! Thunder fire them for trying to mislead/divert our attetion, we are not foolish like them [/size]

Let then answer the following questions.

The above position of the Federal Government is not only ludicrous, it is laughable, untenable and a story only fit to be told to the marines. The following rhetoric posers are germane to this issue:

[b] Is it really faster and safer to do an international transaction of such magnitude by ferrying cash across the continent or by a simple wire transfer that can go through in a matter of few minutes or few hours?

If, indeed, the matter involves security issues like the purchase of arms by a foreign government like Nigeria, why was the South African Government not brought into the picture beforehand?

How could the South African Government be sure that the arms were purchased legitimately by the Nigerian government and not by insurgents if they were not officially informed beforehand?

If indeed the manufacturer(s) of such equipment was/were expecting such large amount by cash, why did they not make adequate arrangements with the authorities in South Africa to declare and clearvthe cash on arrival?

Why was money belonging to the Federal Government and meant for purchase of equipment for the Federal Government moved by a private jet and by private individuals and why were they not accompanied by the officials of the Department of State Services or the office of the National Security Adviser in official capacities?

Why would a government that is at the peak of promoting the cashless policy in our economy be the chief breaker of that policy by moving such a large amount by cash?

If, indeed, it was a legitimate transaction of the Federal Government, why were the officials of our embassy in South Africa not on hand to make the entry easier and smoother? [/b]

More here www.nairaland.com/1908089/co-k-and-bull-story-fg-smuggled#26391522

[size=15pt] And some ignoramus will come here to say GEJ till 2019

SMDH [/size]

And do you think if the FG was involved in this it would have been exposed.
Common, somebody some where is doing things to shame the FG.
If the FG wants to purchase arms they can easily do so legitimately and will use Boko Haram as a cover.
Do u think Jonathan administration is that stupid?
What does he needs the arms for when PDP Governors are more than APCs.
Somebody is painting Nigeria a black image but does not know it turn back to them soon.
It is no more news GEJ has won so people tryin to tarnish his image will be covered with same.
He left Chad he would had purchased these arms in the name of to fight boko haram.
Think before u analyse and make mockery comments.

EroZA:
south Africa sells arms to countries such as US and UK,for your information SA is one of the top 10 best arms manufacturers globally

Interesting.....no one in their right minds would think SA sells arms to countries such as US when Lockheed Martin Corp of the US which makes about $45billion annually from arms sales which is probably half of SA annual budget is still in buisness,there is no SA company on the list of the first 100 arms company in the world neither is SA among the top 10 arms producers in the world,if u in doubt,google is ur friend.

The only thing SA can sell to other countries is probably HIV.

successking:


The truth is not far fetched.

Why has the US Government remained mute over this weighty allegation?

If it's not true, then, let the US Government tell us the truth.

lol.. I don't think they have time for our beer parlour allegation or have any statement that indict them.

But really, your proof has to be far from them keeping silent.

kipesco:
And do you think if the FG was involved in this it would have been exposed.
Common, somebody some where is doing things to shame the FG.
If the FG wants to purchase arms they can easily do so legitimately and will use Boko Haram as a cover.
Do u think Jonathan administration is that stupid?
What does he needs the arms for when PDP Governors are more than APCs.
Somebody is painting Nigeria a black image but does not know it turn back to them soon.
It is no more news GEJ has won so people tryin to tarnish his image will be covered with same.
He left Chad he would had purchased these arms in the name of to fight boko haram.
Think before u analyse and make mockery comments.

Seeems you didn't read the OP, you only read my comment and decided to spew your own ignoramus opinion.

Re-read the OP again and tell me wether it makes sense with your assertion (@underlined).

Again if the FG is not involved why are they blaming the US for this issue.

And if you agree with me that they are involved please address the questions i asked

banki:


Am sure you know you didn't just make sense sometimes its ok to shut up....

There are laws that guide the movement of cash if the money wasn't being smuggled why was it not declared......?
there are laws that guide arms purchases.... if it wasn't illegal why was it not followed?

It sounds like a clip from one Nicholas Cage movie! War Lord!!! Yes! That's how illegal arms deals go down. I'm sure those weapons are for his elections!

kipesco:
And do you think if the FG was involved in this it would have been exposed.
Common, somebody some where is doing things to shame the FG.
If the FG wants to purchase arms they can easily do so legitimately and will use Boko Haram as a cover.
Do u think Jonathan administration is that stupid?
What does he needs the arms for when PDP Governors are more than APCs.
Somebody is painting Nigeria a black image but does not know it turn back to them soon.
It is no more news GEJ has won so people tryin to tarnish his image will be covered with same.
He left Chad he would had purchased these arms in the name of to fight boko haram.
Think before u analyse and make mockery comments.

You, Sir, are a dummy!

Oh really,so your confisticated oil money wanted to buy HIV?i can't believe my short sentence caused such sweatings....take your spectacle and read this again,SA is one of the top ten BEST ARMS MANUFACTURERS

Rooivalk attack helicopter is regarded as one of the top 10 best attack helicopters globally,The G5 and G6 guns are regarded as the best,SA produces best armored vehicles...note that South African armed forces don't use AK47s and don't use Toyota hiluxes...since you are a Nigerian,you will find this difficult to understand,remember SA and Nigeria are not in the same league...

neyobills:

Interesting.....no one in their right minds would think SA sells arms to countries such as US when Lockheed Martin Corp of the US which makes about $45billion annually from arms sales which is probably half of SA annual budget is still in buisness,there is no SA company on the list of the first 100 arms company in the world neither is SA among the top 10 arms producers in the world,if u in doubt,google is ur friend.

The only thing SA can sell to other countries is probably HIV.

Cover up strategy. Gej administratn is full of criminals. Gov't of d criminals,by d criminals and 4 d criminals.

From info I gathered, the arms deal was legitimate and it was a security firm contracted to do the deal on behalf of the FG that ran into hitches. But it's all legit.

This wasn't any arms deal. It was money laundering pure and simple till Sambo Dasuki comes clean with details shikena

ISpiksDaTroof:

You, Sir, are a dummy!

a world class one at that...

sleekymag: From info I gathered, the arms deal was legitimate and it was a security firm contracted to do the deal on behalf of the FG that ran into hitches. But it's all legit.

pls expantiate

nextdoor84: People come out here to spit rubbish..do you want the government to come to your house to brief you about the supposed arms deal!! Nigerians aren't just smart...I blame GEJ for allowing his administration to be scrutinized this much..Act like OBJ,GEJ

OBJ knows about this deal that is y it leaked.
Like someone said, when chibok girls were alleged kidnapped CNN BBC and other western media were crying up n down.
It pains them to c Jonathan do not really give dam abt them.
The US blew dis up or they setup CAN President. Very soon u will hear drop him.
Remember, USA will soon bow down to Nigeria.

pathetic liars. what a government.!!!! what comes from dis government., I m going to take with a pitch of salt. no wonder BH have had a field day causing destruction.,and rapin..g at will. u were busy looking at gov.Rotimi Amechi bombom not knowing ur own bombom is widely open like lagos-Ibadan expressway

That is how they have been stealing our money all along

Rilwayne001:

Seeems you didn't read the OP, you only read my comment and decided to spew your own ignoramus opinion.

Re-read the OP again and tell me wether it makes sense with your assertion (@underlined).

Again if the FG is not involved why are they blaming the US for this issue.

And if you agree with me that they are involved please address the questions i asked

I don't think the FG in any way blamed the US or show a valid proof.
Let me ask u has the FG addressed the nation about this.
Y r u behaving as if u did not go to school. Reason like a scholar n stop been washed by people.

DaBullIT:


Follow the news from the time it broke and use more than one news website as reference , you would see there is no coverup intended

I don't like Jonathan , or CAN and i do not support either , i think its time to think from outside the box

Well, I have also noticed the consistency in the statements coming from government's direction. It looks like they are telling the truth.

What I think happened here is that in a bid to collect kick backs MoD people decided to use third party in the purchase of arms as they usually do, rather than government to government transactions.

What I don't get is how we got to such a low point where bunglers are allowed to run things. See embarrassment.

nuclearboy: Ridiculous lies - is it an army general that went to CBN, changed 1.6Billion into dollars, then managed to find Mr BlingBling's jet, an Israeli and 2 of his friends, gave them 9 million dollars in cash and asked they go buy weapons?

The ONLY agency that has such capabilities in Nigeria is the Presidency itself so releasing a statement that you being "briefed" about this is an insult - everyone know you were involved and this is just damage control!

These denials are only going to make peoople wonder if truly, as some people say, the weapons were not meant for the political BH which is now starting to look real with the actors involved - the coincidences are becoming too much and point to a sinister design against Nigeria from its own high offices

I think he's being briefed on the mess in Johannesburg. Plus he wouldn't know the small details after approving an arms purchase. There's been a consistency in the government response so far and it doesn't look like there's a cover up.

A few months back there was a detailed report written by some international journalist about how our MoD people opt to purchase arms through third parties - to expand the opportunities for kick backs, of course. It has been going on like that forever and our course you can't expect Jonathan's government of Corruption Incorporated to do anything about that. I believe this third-party wheeling dealing led them to this mess.

kipesco:
OBJ knows about this deal that is y it leaked.
Like someone said, when chibok girls were alleged kidnapped CNN BBC and other western media were crying up n down.
It pains them to c Jonathan do not really give dam abt them.
The US blew dis up or they setup CAN President. Very soon u will hear drop him.
Remember, USA will soon bow down to Nigeria.

ISpiksDaTroof:

You, Sir, are a dummy!

@kipesco: there are arms embargos places by the US on Nigeria for human rights violations by the extraordinaire naija army. South Africa has since been manufacturing latest high tech weaponry such as the Dassault Mirage multirole fighters, conventional attack submarines, etc.. Do you know the popular Baretta company has a huge manufacturing unit in SA?? What baffels me is this foolish mafia style approach of coming to a country with a private jet & $10m in briefcases wanting to buy weapons. The UK (our godfathers & colonial masters) are the ones all those stupid foolish service chiefs & GEJ would have consulted in principle without prejudice for the sale of armaments! Instead they prefer the big boi rude boi levels!! Appearing with a private jet...... Coming out with designer suits & briefcases! The most painful thing is the C-in-Cb(Jona) is directly involved!! Are they looking at regional distances Why didn't they even ask that devil Putin He would have gladly given them all they wAnted!!