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Re: Feminism Redefined By Emma Watson by Misogynist2014(m): 8:53am On Sep 26, 2014 |
texanomaly:Yes! |
Re: Feminism Redefined By Emma Watson by Misogynist2014(m): 9:37am On Sep 26, 2014 |
pweetyz: ..OKAY..now i fully understand what you meant..God bless you. 1 Like |
Re: Feminism Redefined By Emma Watson by Misogynist2014(m): 9:52am On Sep 26, 2014 |
phrenoz: Nigerian men and the abnormal sense of self worth they get from their gender...some men are actually begining to see the essence of feminism..buh sum insecure men will always live to oppress the feminine gender in their undying quest for superiority...This link is the worst feminist nightmare, I think all feminists should be whipped by both men and women http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1274952/Men-ARE-brainy-women-says-scientist-Professor-Richard-Lynn.html |
Re: Feminism Redefined By Emma Watson by Kay17: 10:23am On Sep 26, 2014 |
Misogynist2014: Immediately I read your post, I immediately checked your profile, my guess was good. The thoughtless statement came from an atheist. You sounded even more domineering than I ever will. You made the arguement and found the solutions , then why did you quote me? To make me read your "intelligent" post or to show me how brilliant you are. All that is irrelevant for this topic. So I will it. Misogynist2014: Yes men are superior to women,yes women are superior to men. Just the way a white cloth can boast of being lighter than black is the same way a black cloth can boast of being darker than white, but both are not equal, neither is one superior to one another, if all conditions are kept constant. Those two are contradictions and you can't maintain both, one of them has to give way. Object A that is superior in relationship to another Object B naturally implies that Object B is inferior to Object A. For example Ferraris are superior to Fiat, it therefore means that Fiats are inferior to Ferraris. Simple basic reasoning. Misogynist2014: But conditions are not constant in our world. The properties men have are much more needed in our daily activities and that of women are highly regarded in the home. The YORUBA knew these properties and decided to make the best use of it. At the coloured, those are recycled stereotypes which are untrue. In the 21st century, women are occupying positions which were exclusive to men in the past century. Today we find women in factories, sports, politics, academia, religious institutions, there are numerous female Nobel laureates; so our experience today nullifies those stereotypes. Besides it is through stereotypes man inflicts injustice. At the bolded, in other words, Chief Homemaker without any real political power. The Queen had no real power either. The Oyo Empire entire political structure did not have one woman! The Alafin, the Bashorun and the Oyo Mesi were all men. Misogynist2014: e.g. A proverb goes thus: There is no honour for a King with no queen. They made sure they completely alienated men from certain works, though they knew they could do it as good as women. E.g. Selling farm produce of their husband, selling of cooked foods, shelling of palm oil e.t.c. They made giving birth to a child look like discovering gold e.t.c. Women traded a lot and amazingly,they were allowed to keep their profit and own property Didn't you suggest previously that women should be homemakers? Why are they careerist traders in your next statement??. Misogynist2014: The problem with feminism is that 99.9 % of women are naturally submissive. The reason why feminists are so aggressive and cold is not because of men but because they are trying to use it to cover the submissive part of them(I challenge you to tell me a feminist with an unharming smiling face you see on happy school girls). Chimamanda Adichie is a naturally submissive woman, that is why she can't let go of the idea of changing to her husband's name, because deep inside her, she wants to. More stereotypes and insults. Because your mother was naturally submissive does not mean all women are. Misogynist2014: Chat with a feminist on Nairaland, she starts high and all of a sudden, she becomes low and begins to ask you why you had to say something abusive to her(as if looking for consolation or apology), you get to feel a little bit sorry for talking to a woman like that, but you behave like a man and continue like nothing happend. Really. Misogynist2014: I know a lot of women are being genuinely oppressed, I feel sorry 3 Likes |
Re: Feminism Redefined By Emma Watson by maajin007(m): 10:58am On Sep 26, 2014 |
this topic is what an englishman called BALONEY; foolishness of the highest order;garbage |
Re: Feminism Redefined By Emma Watson by LordReed(m): 11:05am On Sep 26, 2014 |
Kay17: While we are breaking the stereotypes, I hope women will also take up the menial tasks that men have been doing like ditch digging, stevedoring, roadworks, etc. All the unglamorous but critical jobs that have usually been "a man's job". |
Re: Feminism Redefined By Emma Watson by Daresh(f): 11:21am On Sep 26, 2014 |
Women and men are not equal o! Women are far superior. tmosco: As long as man and woman are not equal,gender equality cannot be achieved. 1 Like |
Re: Feminism Redefined By Emma Watson by Kay17: 11:21am On Sep 26, 2014 |
LordReed: Women already do. And besides that shouldn't bar women's political and civil rights. 1 Like |
Re: Feminism Redefined By Emma Watson by Misogynist2014(m): 11:24am On Sep 26, 2014 |
Kay17:I just couldn't help but reply. History repeating itself again! An atheist has skipped a logical arguement. That by the way, your points are baseless and superficial, with all feminism in the west, the men still lead with a wide and highly noticeable margin. In your entire life, have you ever seen both male and female animals having equal power. I read some of your posts, where you described bible as being misogynist, you made silly points didn't you? How can you be misogynist and still tell people to love their wives, even to the point of dying for them. Yes women are naturally submissive, its my theory, you have to debunk it if you are in any way serious. You said we have females doing well in Academia, many other institutions and even religion(Osun, a goddess is one of the most visited gods in Africa), that is very good, could you pls compare it with the figures for men.And I in no way in my post say women should not work as you could see in the way I wrote that special works were reserved for women, all I said was that the works of women in home(which you belittle and is unarguably the foundation of every society) was highly regarded.As far as there is something called male and female, we remain unequal but equally beneficial and all, strong, weak, rich, poor, deserve human rights. The rest of the points you made are in my posts. COULD YOU THEN ANSWER MY SIMPLE QUESTION ON ATHEISM, OR YOU WANNA CHICKEN OUT http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1274952/Men-ARE-brainy-women-says-scientist-Professor-Richard-Lynn.html 1 Like |
Re: Feminism Redefined By Emma Watson by coolviv: 11:26am On Sep 26, 2014 |
Guys who have ever loved a female in their lives should be championing things like this especially those who adore their daughters. You are not always going to be around to protect and provide for her or your future grand daughters. So the best you can do is leave a better world for them where they can be happy and fulfilled. Women make the world go round, men are the foundation holding the world. Both together control the world. 6 Likes |
Re: Feminism Redefined By Emma Watson by Misogynist2014(m): 11:29am On Sep 26, 2014 |
Kay17:It is not only women's rights that are trampled upon, have you heard of 'gendercide in war' before, that is the harsh reality of life. |
Re: Feminism Redefined By Emma Watson by alexis007(m): 12:03pm On Sep 26, 2014 |
so hermione,it has now gotten to this?....u're tired of playing 2nd fiddle to harry porter right?...i got the message clearly... .....she's certainly read george orwell's 'animal farm' but couldn't remember the famous line 'Not All Animals Are Equal'.....such poor memory |
Re: Feminism Redefined By Emma Watson by Nobody: 12:11pm On Sep 26, 2014 |
cococandy: I don't want to go into this argument. feminism didnt start long ago. It is only 50years old and we are currently experiencing the 3rd wave of it now. I think you r the one who should learn more about feminism. |
Re: Feminism Redefined By Emma Watson by Nobody: 12:13pm On Sep 26, 2014 |
Misogynist2014: It is not only women's rights that are trampled upon, have you heard of 'gendercide in war' before, that is the harsh reality of life. what about gender profiling and the disposability of men we have been seeing all through history? |
Re: Feminism Redefined By Emma Watson by Nobody: 12:18pm On Sep 26, 2014 |
i just do not have the time and the energy to carry on the debate if not, i would have debunked all the myths being peddled here by those who just think almost everyone is ignorant about gender issues. @cococandy, all i can say is that you are mistaken on several things you said. But like i said, i just don't have the time and energy to discuss things now. |
Re: Feminism Redefined By Emma Watson by MarieSucre(f): 12:21pm On Sep 26, 2014 |
Emmalot121: I have testosterone(which shows I'm a MAN). . As you read from my posts, I don't give a fück about feminists, all I'm her for is to make sure innocent female folks don't fall into this trap. <>Thats why we thank you. What would we do without men like you who stand against all forms of gender discrimination. |
Re: Feminism Redefined By Emma Watson by cococandy(f): 12:32pm On Sep 26, 2014 |
craziebone: craziebone: No I was just pitying your ignorance Brief History of FeminismRead more http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/_/dict.aspx?rd=1&word=A+Brief+History+of+Feminism |
Re: Feminism Redefined By Emma Watson by Kay17: 12:34pm On Sep 26, 2014 |
Misogynist2014: I just couldn't help but reply. History repeating itself again! An atheist has skipped a logical arguement. That by the way, your points are baseless and superficial, with all feminism in the west, the men still lead with a wide and highly noticeable margin. In your entire life, have you ever seen both male and female animals having equal power. @ the bolded, How did you arrive at that theory. Please explain your methodology to us. But I must warn you, you made a general statement that ALL women are naturally submissive, so it will be very difficult for you to prove same. First of all, you wouldn't agree with the foundational argument of the article. The writer lays the reason/fault at the doorstep of evolution. Most feminists on the other hand blame Gender. That the society has already prescribed the expectations of a woman as a homemaker thereby making women believe they find a better satisfactory place at the home. For example, in Africa an unmarried woman or barren woman is a failure. So you find most women devoting most of their energies at meeting these social expectations. 1 Like |
Re: Feminism Redefined By Emma Watson by Daresh(f): 12:39pm On Sep 26, 2014 |
Tallesty1: I wanted to pass when I saw the heading of this post because I hate Feminism but on a second thought I decided to give reading it a shot. This Emma Watson is making sense in a way but using feminism instead of "Equal Rights Movement" Is Where she got it wrong. I agree with everything you said except the bolded. I would rather you say men and women can not be the same rather than equal. I am more equal and better than any man out there. 1 Like |
Re: Feminism Redefined By Emma Watson by Nobody: 12:43pm On Sep 26, 2014 |
cococandy: Chai did you mean to say "Chai! This guy don catch me ooo"? |
Re: Feminism Redefined By Emma Watson by Tallesty1(m): 12:57pm On Sep 26, 2014 |
Daresh:Stop telling yourself lies dear. You are not better than anybody. 1 Like |
Re: Feminism Redefined By Emma Watson by cococandy(f): 12:58pm On Sep 26, 2014 |
Crazibone read my earlier post and stop wearing ignorance like a badge Some people that their mothers are female leaders and influential women will still come here to spread hatred for feminism while they are reaping the direct benefit of the efforts of feminists. Hypocrites 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Feminism Redefined By Emma Watson by cococandy(f): 1:07pm On Sep 26, 2014 |
You've run away now that your ignorance has been exposed? Ok Catch you next time. If I have the time. 'Feminism started 50 yrs ago' Ignorant joke of the century. craziebone: i just do not have the time and the energy to carry on the debate if not, i would have debunked all the myths being peddled here by those who just think almost everyone is ignorant about gender issues. 1 Like |
Re: Feminism Redefined By Emma Watson by LordReed(m): 1:16pm On Sep 26, 2014 |
Kay17: No it shouldn't but we are talking about stereotypes so we should expect women to go out and seek for jobs in those places that were considered "a man's job". How many women would rather carry bricks than choose the "easier" option of prostituting? All those "runs girls" don't see where they are building houses? BTW I have never in Nigeria seen where a woman is paid less than a man for the same job, have you? |
Re: Feminism Redefined By Emma Watson by LordReed(m): 1:24pm On Sep 26, 2014 |
alexis007: so hermione,it has now gotten to this?....u're tired of playing 2nd fiddle to harry porter right?...i got the message clearly... .....she's certainly read george orwell's 'animal farm' but couldn't remember the famous line 'Not All Animals Are Equal'.....such poor memory I am afraid yours is the poor memory. The line in Animal Farm is "All animals are equal but some are more equal than others" modified from simply "All animals are equal" after the pigs took over. |
Re: Feminism Redefined By Emma Watson by gidjah(m): 1:51pm On Sep 26, 2014 |
THE ROLES OF A MAN, WOULD NEVER BE THE SAME AS THAT OF THE WOMAN,GOD never created them and their roles to ever be the same.In d beginin,GOD specifically told them what and who to be pls,any attempt to want to make man and woman the same in any thing,tru any attempt ,via any language or using any kind of sentiment shall be considered as a sin before man and before God.(If any person quote me silly, that person shall get my wrath!) |
Re: Feminism Redefined By Emma Watson by Daresh(f): 1:54pm On Sep 26, 2014 |
Tallesty1: Stop telling yourself lies dear. Yes I am. My Daddy told me I'm superior to any man . And thats the truth! |
Re: Feminism Redefined By Emma Watson by Nobody: 1:57pm On Sep 26, 2014 |
cococandy: You've run away now that your ignorance has been exposed? i left on page 4 and page 4 was yesterday, friday. I had to report even though, i had nothing to do all through yesterday. That gave me some time to spend on NL. I don't have that privilage all the time. As for the Feminism i said started 50years ago, i still stand by my word with all confidence. Feminism as an ideology has only being around for only about 50years. The fact i said we are in the 3rd wave of it should tell you that i know about your own ideology. Btw, i am no feminist hater. I am only against the excesses of it as well as the their thinking that they know it all and have the monopoly to bully others who do no agree with them. I am here to stop the indoctrination of young girls and boys as well a wrong education of the boy child on his personality, sexuality, psychology and his place in the universe. I am doing this in a world where saying or believing something contrary to misandrist mantra, is seen as backward and uncivilized hence, their hostility towards you. They are so quick to remind you that "this is 21st century". 2 Likes |
Re: Feminism Redefined By Emma Watson by Tallesty1(m): 2:01pm On Sep 26, 2014 |
Daresh:Including him You are just funny |
Re: Feminism Redefined By Emma Watson by Misogynist2014(m): 2:39pm On Sep 26, 2014 |
craziebone:Though, I'm not in to your points (maybe I need some explanation) but I think women(feminists in particular) are not grateful. Why didn't they fight for equality at approximately 3600 years after the great flood of Noah? Why didn't they fight for equality when men lost their dear lives just to defend their flat bottom and children? Why didn't they fight when we defended them from wild animals and when we risked our lives to bring wild meat, just for them to eat? He who plays the piper dictates the tune. Some men come to this thread to display their stupidity and share ignorance. The difference btw male and female is clearly visible for the blind to see. The guy asked me why I said women are naturally submissive provided external influence are rendered constant. Even Aristotle shared my critical view when he said men derive pleasure in commanding and women in obeying. Whether you like it or not, feminism's main source of power is from powerful men and organizations like Rockefeller,who want to destroy families, promotes lesbianism,promotes misandry and tends to reduce population through unlimited abortions and women not finding joy in procreation, sexism and unwarranted cases of sexism e.g. He is a sexist because he said I am fat . And chivalry, which is a natural deposition of men to women is forever lost. All we need is HUMAN RIGHTS ENFORCEMENT. Point to one animal in the bush that practice equality and I will give up my course, tell me a genuinely happy feminist and I will give up my course. Like Dick Masterson said: Women don't recognize oppression, even if it passes in front of them. No one should cover the truth, a lot of things are at stake when you want to move the rigid rock of nature. Equality is not in the natural order of things, and the crusade to make everyone equal in every respect (except before the law) is certain to have disastrous consequences.—Murray Rothbard 2 Likes |
Re: Feminism Redefined By Emma Watson by Daresh(f): 3:01pm On Sep 26, 2014 |
Tallesty1: Including him Yes including him. He told me " Women are the beauty of the world, men are dirt" "You are smarter than any man" and I have to agree with him, all the guys I went to school with are just dumb. Of all my many friends, the women are the ones who impress me with their business acumen. FYI I don't hang with dumb money begging females. All the Harvard grads I know personally are females. Most of my clients are females. |
Re: Feminism Redefined By Emma Watson by Kay17: 3:42pm On Sep 26, 2014 |
LordReed: Otherwise they deserve no political and civil rights, right?? |
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