Frankenstein: You'll be very sorry if you marry a feminist. Intelligence doesn't make marriages work. How can you survive with a woman that her major aim in life is focused on proving a non-existent equality? You'll cook your own meals. Sex will be once a month cos she doesn't wanna appear as an object. Haha. Good luck!

u see, that is where u are wrong. A woman should and would do all that because of the feelings they have not because they must. Moreover women just like men can be persuaded to do things. And just like men, instead of commanding them, you cajole them.

She highlighted more on women getting less pay than men for the same work. It doesn't even happen in here talk less of America or Britain.

There should be equal rights yes But a man has to sit before a woman does unless the woman is older.

It takes a special woman to lead men. Every woman can't. Stop allowing Hollywood to deceive you.

AND SHE SHOULD STOP SAYING THERE'RE NO SCHOOLS FOR GIRLS IN AFRICA.

All of you who are seeing and fighting against the many wrongs in the world today may be doing it the wrong way.

In the case of unequal rights for the female gender or gender abuse, you are all seeing the truthfulness of what Jehovah God explained to Eve that their disobedient course would lead to.
Because of our first parents disobedience(choosing to guide themselves outside of God) men and women from then on have been experiencing many societal ill. Concerning the case of unequal rights God explained to Eve: "...and your longing will be for your husband, and he will dominate you." (Genesis 3:16 the Bible)

This is not to say that God is approving of it. No. But that is the unavoidable consequence of Adam and Eve's disobedience to Jehovah God.

So in essence, being a part of the UN(which is a human organization) or deploying millions of men and women cannot solve the problems of unequal rights.

What can solve it then? Jesus answers: "You must pray, then, this way: 'Our Father in the heavens,... Let your Kingdom come. Let your will take place, as in heaven, also on earth.'" (Matthew 6:9,10. Bible). It is only when God's own government(not human's) comes and take charge of this world affairs that all these problems will completely be eradicated.

To learn more visit http://www.jw.org/en/

"hefor she"? Why can't this woman just shut up already! She is talking about
breaking gender stereotype but still stressing it that men have to always do things for women. How about she for he? We all know that would certainly prompt the "women are not made for men's pleasure"

you don't strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.

As for the pay thing, i have said it before and i will continue to say it again. That's just a myth! I do not know of any Govt policy that stresses that women should be paid less than men for the same job. Also, in the private sector, one thing i know about entreprenuers is that: they always want to make more profit by investing the least possible. This means that he would like to pay the man less if he can. It is not the man's fault or anybod's fault that women compromise very easily. It is not ethical to let you know what your colleague is taking home in order to determine how much you would like to recieve. When you go to the negotiation table, the question always is...how much can you take? How much your colleague is taking shouln't be the issue. How much can you take is the right question. If after agreeing to take an amount and you later discover that your collegue is taking more than you, how is that anybody's problem? How has the management cheated you in anyway?! Oh, you are going to start up a movement to blame your pay, which is entirely your choice, on the innocent company and the innocent man?

Well I've tried to point it out before that feminism isn't equal to man hating but was shouted down by insecure dudes and cowardly ladies.

She's not saying anything new that anyone with sense didn't know before. Way to go girl!

Emma has always been a very intelligent girl and this her speech is what feminism has always been about, the women hater would not see it ofcourse.

greatgod2012: Thank you Emma Watson!

But one thing i am sure of is that some posters will not read this wonderful piece before jumping into their usual conclusion that feminists are this, feminists are that.


Well as Harry Porter said......"if not me, who, if not now,when?"

I am a firm believer in Equal human rights, but certainly not equality.
Equality is not in the natural order of things, and the crusade to make everyone equal in every respect (except before the law) is certain to have disastrous consequences.—Murray Rothbard
"I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High."

Thnaks Emma Waston!
Nice Piece there!

cococandy: Well I've tried to point it out before that feminism isn't equal to man hating but was shouted down by insecure dudes and cowardly ladies.

She's not saying anything new that anyone with sense didn't know before. Way to go girl!

Are you fighting for equal rights or equality.If its the later, it is tantamount to man hating.
"I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High."

cococandy: Well I've tried to point it out before that feminism isn't equal to man hating but was shouted down by insecure dudes and cowardly ladies.

She's not saying anything new that anyone with sense didn't know before. Way to go girl!

what do you think about all these quotes?

"The nuclear family must be
destroyed… Whatever its ultimate
meaning, the break-up of families
now is an objectively revolutionary
process." — Linda Gordon
"I feel that ‘man-hating’ is an
honorable and viable political act,
that the oppressed have a right to
class-hatred against the class that is
oppressing them." — Robin Morgan,
Ms. Magazine Editor.
"I haven’t the faintest notion what
possible revolutionary role white
hetero- sexual men could fulfill, since
they are the very embodiment of
reactionary- vested-interest-power.
But then, I have great difficulty
examining what men in general
could possibly do about all this. In
addition to doing the shitwork that
women have been doing for
generations, possibly not exist? No, I
really don’t mean that. Yes, I really
do." — Robin Morgan

Chairman!U just made my day wit dis comment.
I was about coming up wit my epistle wen I saw dis.
As much as believe in fair/equal treatment of women,both sexes will neva be equal.
This is d way it has always been and it will remain like dat.
There are clearly defined roles;even in the animal kingdom.The lioness hunts while d lion protects the pride.The female horse take care of her colt.The female birds build nests while d male protects(save for few species).
In sports,there will neva come a time when women and men would go against each other.In javelin,shotput and discuss,the equipment women use are lesser in weight.In hurdles,the height for women is lower than that of men.Even wit these differences,a man's record would make any woman's record green wit envy.
Men are hardwired to pamper women and women love to be pampered.Men can give up their seats on a bus to women.I knw guys who can deck a guy @ d slightest provocation but won't lift a finger on a woman.The guys here can testify how much they are willing to do for their mothers even if it means "disappointing" their fathers.The "privileges" women enjoy are limitless.
I have no qualms if a woman heads my department,if she's paid more than I am e.t.c.These tinz are normal.But to attempt erasing the line completely which in some cases entails the man to carry pregnancy is what I find disturbing.

I can go on and on but I promised not to write an epistle...just let it go

Tallesty1: I wanted to pass when I saw the heading of this post because I hate Feminism but on a second thought I decided to give reading it a shot. This Emma Watson is making sense in a way but using feminism instead of "Equal Rights Movement" Is Where she got it wrong.

This two bodies claim to fight for thesame thing but they are not thesame.

The Equal Rights Movements wanted things such as the right to vote and more equality in the work force, a law against domestic violence, maternity leave, equal pay and a law agains sexual harassment and sexual violence.

Feminism is a movement started by men hating, lazy, angry and demonic women.(sorry I'm loose with words sometimes). Feminism arose from the extreme fustrations of women who wanted additional and unnecessary freedoms like abortion, etc.

Ever wondered why Woman A's feminism is not always Woman B's feminism?? That is because they confuse equal right movement with feminism.

I hate feminism because it has failed to acknowledgment that there is any inequality that oppresses men, and they are hell bent on keeping this oppression.

[b]I hate feminism because they tend to want equality only when it benefits them. Their money is their money but their husbands money is for the two of them yet they claim equality. To hit a woman is wrong but to hit a man is self defense.[b]

I hate feminism because they actively seek to overthrow any vestige of male dominance in society, to the point of opposing the biblical roles of husbands and wives, defending abortionon demand, and promoting lesbianism.

I hate feminism because it is based in arrogance, and it is the opposite of the call to the born-again believer to be a servant.

I hate feminsim because they are breaking up the traditional role of the woman in a family and society. It also causes confusion among men and women as to where they stand in the family that's why you hear people say my husband is the head and I'm the neck. I could go on and on but lemme stop here.

To The Christian Feminist. Please think twice. Feminism is from the pit of hell. God outlines the roles of women and men as different but equally as important. He created us different physically, emotionally. Men and women can never be equal. You can say 2 + 2 = 5 if you want to, but the truth is intolerant... 2 + 2 will always equal 4. Don't allow end time teachers to tell you otherwise.

While equal right movement is fighting for all of us, Feminist is attacking men, marriage and promoting lesbianism and being single.

The tussle for power in marriage is completely unnecessary. And before you start thinking that Tallesty likes to oppress women, lemme clear you. NO he doesn't. Tallesty believes in equality as much as anyone, but WITHIN the teachings of the Word of God.

It is sin in the heart that causes inequality. It is sin that causes men to treat women in ways that are meant to demean or objectify them. And it is sin that seeks counterfeit solutions to counteract these inequalities. The only true cure for inequality is obedience to God’s Word. If men and women would walk in obedience to God’s Word then their won't be a need to for feminism or equal right movement.

more quotes

"We can’t destroy the inequities
between men and women until we
destroy marriage." — Robin Morgan
"I claim that rape exists any time
sexual intercourse occurs when it
has not been initiated by the
woman, out of her own genuine
affection and desire."
— Robin Morgan
From her “The Demon Lover” (NY:
Norton & Co., 1989 Morgan doesn’t
hide her bigotry):
* p. 138-9: The phallic malady is
epidemic and systemic… each
individual male in the patriarchy is
aware of his relative power in the
scheme of things…. He knows that
his actions are supported by the
twin pillars of the State of man - the
brotherhood ritual of political
exigency and the brotherhood ritual
of a sexual thrill in dominance. As a
devotee of Thanatos, he is one with
the practitioner of sado-masochistic
“play” between “consenting adults,”
as he is one with the rapist.
* p. 224: My white skin disgusts me.
My passport disgusts me. They are
the marks of an insufferable
privilege bought at the price of
others’ agony.
* p. 229: Sex to this point in my life
has been trivial, at best a gesture of
tenderness, at worst a chore. I
couldn’t understand the furor about
it.
* p. 316: Did she die of the disease
called “family” or the disease called
“rehabilitation”, of poverty or drugs
or pornography, of economics or
sexual slavery or a broken body?

Tallesty1: I wanted to pass when I saw the heading of this post because I hate Feminism but on a second thought I decided to give reading it a shot. This Emma Watson is making sense in a way but using feminism instead of "Equal Rights Movement" Is Where she got it wrong.

This two bodies claim to fight for thesame thing but they are not thesame.

The Equal Rights Movements wanted things such as the right to vote and more equality in the work force, a law against domestic violence, maternity leave, equal pay and a law agains sexual harassment and sexual violence.

Feminism is a movement started by men hating, lazy, angry and demonic women.(sorry I'm loose with words sometimes). Feminism arose from the extreme fustrations of women who wanted additional and unnecessary freedoms like abortion, etc.

Ever wondered why Woman A's feminism is not always Woman B's feminism?? That is because they confuse equal right movement with feminism.

I hate feminism because it has failed to acknowledgment that there is any inequality that oppresses men, and they are hell bent on keeping this oppression.

I hate feminism because they tend to want equality only when it benefits them. Their money is their money but their husbands money is for the two of them yet they claim equality. To hit a woman is wrong but to hit a man is self defense.

I hate feminism because they actively seek to overthrow any vestige of male dominance in society, to the point of opposing the biblical roles of husbands and wives, defending abortionon demand, and promoting lesbianism.

I hate feminism because it is based in arrogance, and it is the opposite of the call to the born-again believer to be a servant.

I hate feminsim because they are breaking up the traditional role of the woman in a family and society. It also causes confusion among men and women as to where they stand in the family that's why you hear people say my husband is the head and I'm the neck. I could go on and on but lemme stop here.

To The Christian Feminist. Please think twice. Feminism is from the pit of hell. God outlines the roles of women and men as different but equally as important. He created us different physically, emotionally. Men and women can never be equal. You can say 2 + 2 = 5 if you want to, but the truth is intolerant... 2 + 2 will always equal 4. Don't allow end time teachers to tell you otherwise.

While equal right movement is fighting for all of us, Feminist is attacking men, marriage and promoting lesbianism and being single.

The tussle for power in marriage is completely unnecessary. And before you start thinking that Tallesty likes to oppress women, lemme clear you. NO he doesn't. Tallesty believes in equality as much as anyone, but WITHIN the teachings of the Word of God.

It is sin in the heart that causes inequality. It is sin that causes men to treat women in ways that are meant to demean or objectify them. And it is sin that seeks counterfeit solutions to counteract these inequalities. The only true cure for inequality is obedience to God’s Word. If men and women would walk in obedience to God’s Word then their won't be a need to for feminism or equal right movement.

you wrote it all.

we have all these kind of misandrist quotes yet, some people think feminism isn't about man-hating. I believe feminism isn't man-hating but there are misandrists within the movement and the few good feminists are not denouncing them.

"And let’s put one lie to rest for all
time: the lie that men are oppressed,
too, by sexism—the lie that there
can be such a thing as ‘men’s
liberation groups.’ Oppression is
something that one group of people
commits against another group,
specifically because of a ‘threatening’
characteristic shared by the latter
group—skin, color, sex or age, etc.
The oppressors are indeed ****ED
UP by being masters, but those
masters are not OPPRESSED. Any
master has the alternative of
divesting himself of sexism or racism
—the oppressed have no alternative
—for they have no power but to
fight. In the long run, Women’s
Liberation will of course free men—
but in the short run it’s going to cost
men a lot of privilege, which no one
gives up willingly or easily. Sexism is
NOT the fault of women—kill your
fathers, not your mothers".
— Robin Morgan
"To call a man an animal is to flatter
him; he’s a machine, a walking
Love Machine."
— Valerie Solanas, Authoress of
the SCUM Manifesto
"Life in this society being, at best, an
utter bore and no aspect of society
being at all relevant to women, there
remains to civic-minded, responsible,
thrill-seeking females only to
overthrow the government,
eliminate the money system, institute
complete automation, and destroy
the male sex."
— Valerie Solana, SCUM founder
(Society for Cutting Up Men.)
"The male is a domestic animal
which, if treated with firmness…can
be trained to do most things."
— Jilly Cooper, SCUM (Society For
Cutting Up Men, started by Valerie
Solanas)

more quotes from those who feminists call role models
"The more famous and powerful I
get the more power I have to hurt
men." — Sharon Stone; Actress
"Ninety-five percent of women’s
experiences are about being a
victim. Or about being an underdog,
or having to survive… women didn’t
go to Vietnam and blow things up.
They are not Rambo."
— Jodie Foster; Actress - as quoted

Don't forget dat equal rights and opportunities include leaving your family in Abuja to take up a job in Lagos

bluelover:

AkunneObinna: Wow this is quite a read, you know it is quite unusual to see smart young women in the entertainment industry, who do not just come in for the fame and money it brings, they come in and use both to make a change in the society, the way people see things. thumbs up Emma. Am a man and I love the idea behind feminism. I believe every gender should be treated equally. In a Field of work, it should not matter if you are male or female, rather your ability to do the job. Both genders should be treated equally, its a right and not a privilege. #iamaFeminist

wow. you are among the few men on this thread that actually has sense. Tell me which woman will hear this and not give you the full respect you've earned?

OK, Emma girl what did you just redifine?

is it the same feminism the man-hating group?

Simply because u were opportuned to act a fantasy movie u automatically assume to know it all. Redefine life as we know it. Good seeds reap fruit abundantly so far as feminism has failed in all nations as mentioned its a bad seed. Good women please ignore and discard

"Feminists are like men with no common sense, they think they are men, but they are not"................... ¤¤¤

Well the three major words involved [size=16pt]Feminism,Equal Rights and Equality[/size] they are all relative to what each individual thinks of them #shikena

koyyes:
wow. you are among the few men on this thread that actually has sense. Tell me which woman will hear this and not give you the full respect you've earned?

What separates women from men is not strength but common sense, common sense is not common among women(except if you are a happily married woman). .Women don't know the relationship btw oppression and bad government.

sarutobie:
I was thinking the same, if emma watson is advocating for equal basic rights for both genders (which should be in any society that wants to progress) then she is advocating for human rights(for all genders of all ages), it then makes the word 'feminism' unnecessary really...

You should read the article properly and comprehend before you start commenting. She made mention of 'HeforShe'. And even if she held on to the word "Feminism" it is justified, because we know in this situation of inequality, women are at the suffering end. inequality was not brought to the stage because men are treated badly, or because in some places men are treated badly and in others women are treated badly. The situation is always women or girls. So my brother if she held on to Feminism, she is justified.

craziebone:

what do you think about all these quotes?

"The nuclear family must be
destroyed… Whatever its ultimate
meaning, the break-up of families
now is an objectively revolutionary
process." — Linda Gordon
"I feel that ‘man-hating’ is an
honorable and viable political act,
that the oppressed have a right to
class-hatred against the class that is
oppressing them." — Robin Morgan,
Ms. Magazine Editor.
"I haven’t the faintest notion what
possible revolutionary role white
hetero- sexual men could fulfill, since
they are the very embodiment of
reactionary- vested-interest-power.
But then, I have great difficulty
examining what men in general
could possibly do about all this. In
addition to doing the shitwork that
women have been doing for
generations, possibly not exist? No, I
really don’t mean that. Yes, I really
do." — Robin Morgan

that's fanatism. just like islam vs boko haram.

aisha2: Applause
Thank you Emma. This is What feminism is truly about equal rights for all not hate of any gender, thank you defining it for us.

For the close minded, you may not understand it but we all suffer the consequence if an unequal society. Men who are not able to emotionally express themselves, fathers who are told they shouldn't spend too much time with Their kids and miss the bonding experience . Men who Suffer abuse in silence, men who are publicly ridiculed for being hit by Women. These are All consequences of inequality

feminism isn't about equality, fact! It is about women only, hence the word "fem". Fyi, the equal treatment of each person regardless of their gender, sexual orientation, race, ethnicity and creed etc, is called Egalitarianism, pure and simple. 1st wave feminism did a good job. But what we have today is just pure man-hate. Today, governments make laws that target male sexuality and male psychology.

It is so funny how when your man-hating is pointed out to you, you come up with silly things about dictionary definition. Why don't you show your definition by your actions?!

When Jay z was hit by his sister in-law, what did all of you claiming to be feminists say? You all were here making up some kind of excuses and theories about why a woman hiting a man is ok. But when ray rice hit his girlfriend in what could be seen as reaction to provocation, you all were up in arms.

AkunneObinna:

You should read the article properly and comprehend before you start commenting. She made mention of 'HeforShe'. And even if she held on to the word "Feminism" it is justified, because we know in this situation of inequality, women are at the suffering end. inequality was not brought to the stage because men are treated badly, or because in some places men are treated badly and in others women are treated badly. The situation is always women or girls. So my brother if she held on to Feminism, she is justified.

this is why i call y'll hypocrites! Men are not opperessed? I have actually heard this particular line from someone who describes herself as ultra feminist.

We live in a world were all men are guilty of rape until proven innocent. Yet, you tell us men are not opperessed?

We live in a world where women are giving financial insentive to study the STEMs but men are not given the same to study in traditionally women field and someone is here telling us men are not opperessed!

We live in a world where #BringBackOurGirls campaign is the biggest hashtag of the year but few people were heard of it when #BringBackOurBoys started in Israel yet, someone is telling us men aren't opperessed?

Many times, feminists bring up the male suicide rate like watson is doing now. But they do this only when it is being pointed out to them that their group is more like a hate group today. They bring up the male suicide issue only to pretend that their movement is also for men. But tell me how many times, these same women have ever come up with any strategy to help men solve their unique issues? How many times have these women supported it that male schools should be built and scholarships be given to males so as to address the boy child drop-out syndrome?

Nice one. Almost believable, but not quite. Even if all the dictionaries in the world start defining 'snake' as "a friendly piece of live rope," it wouldn't stop the majority of people from trying to crush the head of the next snake they see.

Feminism cannot exactly be genuinely interested in the male plight and remain feminism. It remains what it is... A rights movement FOR WOMEN.

It's only normal that feminists exaggerate the female plight and downplay bias against men. It's only normal that men dislike/hate feminism for its hypocrisy. It's only normal that some would think they have a better definition than what reality presents. Actions speak louder, dear Hermione.

Emmalot121: Are you fighting for equal rights or equality.If its the later, it is tantamount to man hating.
"I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High."

so God and man relationship is same as man to woman?

I give up

Emmalot121: What separates women from men is not strength but common sense, common sense is not common among women(except if you are a happily married woman). .Women don't know the relationship btw oppression and bad government.

Na, it would be wrong to make such conclusion. Afterall, chimamanda who calls herself a feminist is a married woman and all her opinion about feminism does not in any way sound intimidating to the male folk. A woman should be guided by the choices she makes in life. If she decides to remain single,fine. If she wants to get married,fine. But which ever decision she makes,she shouldn't limit herself in achieving her desired goals- she has the right to contribute her quota. That's why as much as i respect chimamanda,i respect her husband even more.