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Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by brocab: 12:28am On Nov 06, 2014 |
No one is stopping you tithe, that"s your choice, all we are doing on this page is sharing the truth. I love hearing tithers stories, 'none I hear how God blessed them' the same as God blesses the preachers. daniwealth: |
Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by brocab: 12:40am On Nov 06, 2014 |
It don't matter who's at fault, we have finely come to an agreement. I didn't know I had to declare my position. And if you did read my post clearly I have never supported tithing. Give "Yes", I will go over my pages, and find where it says I supported tithing. Maybe you had reading wrong, but I assure you, it wasn't meant to sound, that I tithe. So for give me , if I had made a mistake. Is Nairaland your home town? openmine: |
Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by brocab: 12:50am On Nov 06, 2014 |
No it don't say that. boxer022: |
Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by brocab: 1:00am On Nov 06, 2014 |
I had gone back through my pages, and I can't see where I said I supported tithing. So you may have flipped through the page, and sounds. openmine: |
Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by openmine(m): 1:03am On Nov 06, 2014 |
brocab: ....maybe its urs....ok oga i hear you MR NAIRALAND |
Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by openmine(m): 1:04am On Nov 06, 2014 |
brocab:...so you had to flip ur own pages to find out ur error its Ok... |
Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by brocab: 1:15am On Nov 06, 2014 |
I only went back for the sake of not having an argument. And theirs no fault found. It don't really matter who's at fault-There's no-argument in Christ, And maybe Mr self righteous you don't read it' you just flip the page, and judge. openmine: |
Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by openmine(m): 1:19am On Nov 06, 2014 |
brocab:ok sir |
Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by brocab: 1:21am On Nov 06, 2014 |
openmine: |
Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by nannymcphee(f): 7:14am On Nov 06, 2014 |
brocab: Pls work on the format of your posts, it's difficult to read becos they are lengthy with no paragraphs |
Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by brocab: 4:08pm On Nov 06, 2014 |
openmine: |
Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by brocab: 4:09pm On Nov 06, 2014 |
No worries I will try my best nannymcphee: |
Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by brocab: 4:49pm On Nov 06, 2014 |
Actually" those who write on this forum, are learning from each other. And between us all, we are connecting, we are doing what we love most reaching out. We are spending quality time discussing the more important issues too each other. I suppose those who know Christ {Truth} nothing else matters. Heaven and Hell will past away, but my word will always stay. dein77: |
Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by brocab: 5:14am On Nov 07, 2014 |
If that's the case you feel you need to pay tithes' because you believe your prayers and paying tithes may save your souls through your pastor, then I "ask" when will Jesus come into the picture. thegoodone2: |
Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by KLand(m): 11:26pm On Nov 07, 2014 |
Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by KLand(m): 11:17am On Nov 08, 2014 |
brocab: Titheing preceded the law in that Abraham paid tithe even before the law was given. It is true that Jesus came to fulfil the law, but you know Jesus never outlawed titheing? I know that anyone that loves the Lord with all his heart will not find it hard to give 10% of his income to God. Even if you don't call it tithe, just give to the Lord. That's the bottom line. No one should use the tithe argument to avoid giving to God. |
Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by PastorKun(m): 12:31pm On Nov 08, 2014 |
KLand: If you truly want to give to God, then follow Jesus instruction of giving to him which means giving to the poor and the needy. (Matthew 25:31-40) jesus never asked us for tithes or paid tithes. Claiming you are giving to God when you pay tithes in church is simply adding to scriptures and obeying the doctrines of greedy men parading themselves as God's representative. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by brocab: 1:02am On Nov 09, 2014 |
Abraham made his own decision to pay a tithe to the priesthood from the spoils of war, not because God told him too. plus the goods didn't belong to Abraham anyway. So if we are to follow Abraham's footsteps {"as many say"} does that mean we are to pay a tithe through stolen goods? Do you think we all should become like a Robin-hood, robbing the rich and tithe to the poor? "No." And yet Thur shall not steal. Later God had made a covenant law with his people as part of the tithing system {from the spoils of war} we now have hard working farmers tithe at least 23% on a yearly or three years Percentage of food bringing the {crops} into the storehouse so the Levi priesthood and the hungry shall be fed. Yet this Old testament covenant God had made with his people, tithing to the Levi priesthood being faulty- Jesus later had to change it' to a new covenant. Hebrews 7: 11 Therefore, if perfection were through the Levitical priesthood {for under it the people received the law}. what further need was there that another priest should rise according to the order of Melchizedek, and not called according to the Order of Aaron? For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law. Hebrews 8:7-10 As he say: For if that first covenant Had been Faultless, then no place would have been sought for a second. Because finding fault with them, he say's:"Behold, the days are coming." say's the Lord, "when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah, not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them out of the land of Egypt. V's 10, "After those days "say's the lord, "I will write My laws in their mind and write them on their hearts; and I will be their God and they will be my people. Hebrews 7: 27-28 Aaron's received offerings,{tithes} and sacrifices first for his own sins and then for the people's. Jesus then said: He sacrificed himself "Once" for all when he offered up himself. For the law appoints as high priests men who have weakness, but the word of the oath, which came after the law. Jesus had made a new covenant' Jesus had changed that old testament covenant priesthood days, finding "fault" as it's written. You say no-one should use the tithe argument to avoid giving to God. I say, no-one should use the tithe messages at all. Tithe is a percentage, and given can mean less or more. I find with most forums such as this one, those who tithe seem to create a more argumentative situation against those who don't tithe. Many of those who tithe believe that "all" should be equal to tithe as they do? "bringing their hard earned wagers into the storehouse. Not scripture d in the NT' but someone other then "God" himself, had made these demands. Revelation 22:18-19. For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophesy of this book. If anyone adds to these things, God will add. "and if anyone takes away from the words of this book of this prophesy, God shall take away his part from the book of life. Such as it was in the old covenant, this had caused, arguments, disputes, envy, strife, reviling, evil suspicions, Jealousy, causing men to have corrupt minds, Selling, buying, in the lords house. There's no difference with today's {churches}-storehouses. 1 Timothy 6. Men of corrupt minds destitute of the truth, who suppose that godliness is the means of Gain. {Money} The Lord then say's-From such withdraw yourselves. Who do you think the lord is talking about? This same tithing system is still playing its roll. KLand: 1 Like |
Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by SleekReek(m): 4:47pm On Nov 17, 2014 |
For all who desire the Truth on Tithing go to this link http://tithing101.com/Part1/index.htm |
Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by brocab: 12:45pm On Feb 09, 2015 |
Firstly: God gave all the authority over to Jesus, so if Jesus wanted to change the laws, he has all the rights to do just that. Matthew 28:18, "Then Jesus came and spoke to them, saying,"All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on the earth. Go back to your bible, this time study the words. boxer022: |
Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by EdDave(m): 10:49pm On Feb 21, 2015 |
texazzpete:I dont need u quoting me for any reason. To ur tent O Israel means do wat pleases u. But dont quote me again. Christians arguing about wat to do and wat not to do on nairaland. Has anybody forced u to pay tithes? And who said i dont give to the needy? I dont have to come here to prove anything to anyone, least of all you. |
Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by brocab: 11:40pm On Feb 21, 2015 |
Hooooooooooo angry EdDave: |
Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by brocab: 3:20am On Mar 07, 2015 |
Matthew 17:25- And when they had come to Capernaum, those who received the temple tax came to peter and said: "Does your Teacher not pay the temple tax?" He said "Yes." And when he had come to the house, Jesus anticipated him saying, "What do you think, Simon? From whom do the Kings of the earth take customs or taxes, from their own sons or from strangers?" Peter said to Him, "From strangers." Jesus then said to him then the sons are free. Did you just listen what Jesus had said:>then the sons are free. Do we not belong to Christ-is Christ our tutor-are we now called sons to Christ-did Jesus say before Abraham was born I am. Are you still under Abraham's domain? Or are you under Christ? Did Christ say then the sons are free.. As you read on Jesus didn't want to argue the point so he sent Peter and said>"Nevertheless lest we offend them, go to the sea, cast a hook, and take the fish that comes up first. And when you have opened it's mouth, you will find a piece of money; take that and give it to them for you and Me. So those who still obey the law on tithing are stealing from God. Amen.. KLand: |
Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by KLand(m): 9:17pm On Mar 09, 2015 |
brocab:Thanks for your comment. But I must say that I don't see how giving tithe to God amounts to stealing from Him. I think the reverse should be the case, according to Biblical principles. No, we are not under the law but in Christ. BUt Bible shows that Christ never outlawed tithe, just as He never condemned tax paying. Read again the story you referred to understand it better than you did. Jesus wouldn't have paid tithe if he believed it was wrong to do so. So is tithe. It isnot wrong to give it. |
Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by brocab: 10:17am On Mar 10, 2015 |
Matthew 17:25 If you didn't understand this scripture, then you wouldn't understand these other scriptures. When you read this verse clearly Jesus only paid the temple tithe, because they had given Peter a hard time over it. If Jesus paid taxes he wouldn't send Peter to the ocean to collect money from a fishes mouth. If Jesus paid taxes, and he collected His Riches from the people to help with his needs and living the highways, like the other Pharisee priest done back than, and today, He wouldn't have to rely on saving the world, and dying for our sins. Jesus is better then that- he preferred to live on the streets. Jesus said: Foxes have holes, birds have nest, but I have no place to rest My head... So His aim was to seek after His Father, so all man kind can be saved..Freewill offerings. Peter said: silver and gold I do not have, but what I give you, in Jesus of Nazareth stand up and walk. Many who tithe usually use scripture such as Malachi 3 or Matthew 23:23,"Woe to you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites For you pay tithe of Mint and anise and cumin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faith. These you ought have done, without leaving the others undone.. We all know the Pharisees Paid tithes in herbs and food products, also we know it was some bright spark, who had twisted the truth around changing this verse taken what was a herb of mint-symbolizing it "sounds" as IF the Pharisees only tithed in mint as a cash flow. God had made a law OLD TESTAMENT to bring all your crops, stocks into the storehouse so my people will be fed. As we all know the story Abraham gave all the spoils of war that didn't belong to him to the kings, as it was a custom to do so. Anybody who retrieves cash as a tithe is stealing from God. God commanded the Jews to pay tithes in crops, stocks, merchandise, and when tithes were yearly paid it was never without sacrificing and offerings. Even to this day In Israel the Jews don't pay tithes, only those from the western world twisted and turned bible scriptures, 1 Timothy 6: men of corrupt minds destitute of the truth that they USE Godliness AS a means to gain {Money} From such with draw yourselves. Do you really believe Jesus is not given us any warning about these money hungry tithing false prophets wolves in sheep clothing. Feel free-you want to obey God's old tithing laws, then at least you can obey all the other 613 laws, as its written? The lord warns us with scriptures, about these men of corruption-don't lay up for yourselves riches here on earth-where thief's break in and steal, but lay up yourselves riches in heaven where thief's do not break in and steal... How about the birds of the air they neither sow nor do they reap, nor put into barns, and the lord feeds them, how much more are you, you of little faith. Using bible scriptures for any money gaining is robbing God-{What you do to others you do to Him}. Feel free if it helps you feel good about yourself? Then tithe or your monies away? KLand: |
Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by KLand(m): 9:46pm On Mar 10, 2015 |
brocab: I am not in for long stories. I just know that giving 10% of my income to God, which you call tithe, is a great privilege I love to share. |
Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by brocab: 10:31pm On Mar 10, 2015 |
Then share-the story about that old woman who gave all that she had, while the rest gave a percentage of 23%, and it was the Levities Priest who gave 10% to Aaron as it's written. This is the way the Lord said to give>1 Corinthians 9:7, So let each one give as he purpose in his heart, not grudgingly or of necessity: for God loves a cheerful giver... Do you understand what the "Lord" had just said>NOT GRUDGINGLY OR OF NECESSITY for the Lord Loves a cheerful giver. Tithing was a law given back in O/Testament-and in the N/Testament its comes under a freewill giving. The law on tithing-sacrificing and offerings no-longer exist. If the pastor priest or preachers continual's to preach on the tithing old testament laws-he/she is robbing God and His people, what you do to them-you done it to ME Remember God the Father gave all His Authority over to His Son Jesus Christ-and Jesus Change that O/Testament Covenant- given us a N/Testament Covenant from what was a Law" Jesus freed us all from that old law. So now we either disobey the Lord, and keep on obeying God's O/Testament law on tithing 10% Or we can stop lying to God's people-and let each one come to their own repentance, asking the Lord for your own forgivenesses, and start obeying the laws in Christ, as it's written. Seeking your riches in the heavens of the Kingdom of God, instead of seeking your riches here on earth-using God's people to build your mega kingdoms, for your own selfish gain {Money}. Your choice.. Amen KLand: |
Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by brocab: 4:37am On Mar 15, 2015 |
Non tither's are not against tithing-we are against you who tithe out of scripture, today's tithing is un-biblical. If you chose to tithe at least do it the way the bible tells you to tithe, the law on tithing was given to the Jews. Malcahi 3 bring all your tithes into the storehouse that there maybe food in my house. jdilight: |
Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by jdilight(m): 10:04am On Mar 16, 2015 |
brocab: Please explain the Bible way of tithing |
Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by brocab: 10:11am On Mar 16, 2015 |
How hard is it for you to understand this scripture Malcahi 3 bring all your tithes into the storehouse so my people will be fed. The bible tithing was used to feed the Levities and the hungry. In the old Testament it was never changed. But the new testament Jesus had other idea's from tithing to freewill giving.. IT WASN'T GOD WHO CHANGED TITHING FROM FOOD TO CASH, THIS IS YOUR IDEA? jdilight: |
Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by jdilight(m): 10:15am On Mar 16, 2015 |
brocab: You just added food to your scripture. If your a Christian, you should know the consequence |
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