Beey:
We are just discussing on a public forum & everyone is entitled to his/her opinion.So I don't understand why you are catching feelings as it is evidenced by your language.Actually am a madam not sir.My opinion is that even the prophets & the likes of David who was said to be a man after the heart of God commuted adultery & still God said David was a man after His heart. Moses wwho saw God with his eyes was a sinner who not only commited murder but also struck the rock instead of speaking to the rock.Abraham a friend of God lied about Sarah not being his wife.The list could go on & on but what am trying yo say is that Paul with flesh & blood running through his veins was not different from these great men that God used.He preached the Gospel of Christ & many were converted.Regardless of what his failures might have been,Paul served God & was a folloower of Christ as He introduces himself in the book of Romans 1:1. The rest is secondary or rather irrelevant.

blym4real:
i can see you are a muslim, I will also refer you to this two books;
1.who is this Allah?
2. Anatomy of the quaran.

todayguest:
" Imitate me as I imitate Christ Jesus." said Paul.

MissGdope:
When people read single verses in the bible, they read out of context. Sometimes you have to read the whole chapter to understand the context. Don't let people tell you what is in the bible. Read for yourself because Satan knows the word too so if u don't know for yourself, he can twist the word to confuse you

cuteniva:
seconded

blym4real:
i can see you are a muslim, I will also refer you to this two books;
1.who is this Allah?
2. Anatomy of the quaran.

TheRealMrStan:

4. Jesus himself was circumcised (Luke 2:21); but Paul says if we are circumcised we would be estranged from Christ (Galatians 5:2-4).


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Amhappy:
Femi said Christians must choose between Paul and Christ teachings. We are called Christians not Paulians so we have already made a choice. Paul is actually one of us,a great one at that. He even told us to look unto Christ the author and finisher of our faith. That said, we know Femi quoted Paul out of context. But even if there is any contradiction at all,Femi should not worry for the sheep hears the voice of the Master.

SuperModerator:
despite the glaring contradictions in the bible, people still believe in it.

can anyone be more gullible than this?

TheRealMrStan:


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plaetton:

Sorry madam,
But are you still saying that it is okay to use DECEPTION and CUNNING to spread what are supposed to be the simple and TRUE words of god?
In other words, you are still saying the simple true words of Jesus are insufficient and therefore needs to be complimented and supplimented by Deception and Cunning[color=#990000][/color] such as was employed by Paul?

Beey:
No that's not what Iam saying.What Iam saying is that Christ teaching is the basis of the Christian faith.However, my understanding is that Paul as he himself said,was a follower of Christ according to Romans 1 & urged believers in 1 Cor 11, to follow him as he followed Christ.He might have had his failures being human, but my conclusion is that Paul was not preaching lies,he was preaching the risen Christ.You cannot just fault him based on a verse,you'd have to read the chapter & sometimes more than one chapter to understand why he said what he had said.It doesn't make sense for any man to die for something that he doesn't believe in.You hardly hear of people dying for their Momma but Paul was imprisoned & suffered greatly & eventually died because of preaching the Gospel of Jesus. If you read the entire chapter of Phillipians 1, you might get a hint of what am talking about. Phil 1:7b " You share with me the special favor of God,both in my imprisonment and in defending and confirming the truth about the Gospel." 1 Phil 13 "For everyone here including the whole palace knows that Iam in chains because of Christ." Phil 1:20 "I trust that my life will bring honor to Christ,whether I live or die." Based on these Scriptures I can confidently say that Paul was preaching the Gospel of Jesus & not his own Gospel.

dadde:

Dear Christian folks, it not enough to call Mr. Aribisala, all sorts of names. We need to defeat his deception with the word of truth and reason.

I have read many articles written by Aribisala and I have discovered that he needs to tarnish Christ and Christianity to get fame.

Haven said that, it's is necessary I put up an explanation.

I promise to present a cogent explanation. My xplanation may not go well with everyone but it ll go a long way.

I WILL BE BACK

Kei144:


Without the insights given in Apostle Paul's writings, you can never be able to live like Jesus Christ. It is so cheap to talk about living like Jesus Christ; do the living practically and let us see.

Mt. 12:28 But if I drive out demons by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.

Zec. 4:6 So he said to me, “This is the word of the LORD to Zerubbabel: ‘Not by might nor by power, but by my Spirit,’ says the LORD Almighty.

Jesus made it clear that he did all the work that he did by the Spirit of God. Even the Old Testament declared that that is the way to go. Today you hear Christians preach that if you receive Jesus Christ, God will give you the Holy Spirit and you will become holy. After all the talk, which they learned from Europeans, how many Christians are really holy? If you study the writings of Apostle Paul very well, you will learn how to live by the Spirit.

Ro. 1:17 For in the gospel a righteousness from God is revealed, a righteousness that is by faith from first to last, [Or is from faith to faith] just as it is written: “The righteous will live by faith.”

Ro. 10:8 But what does it say? “The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart,” [Deut. 30:14] that is, the word of faith we are proclaiming:
Ro. 10:9 That if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
Ro. 10:10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved.
Ro. 10:11 As the Scripture says, “Anyone who trusts in him will never be put to shame.” [Isaiah 28:16]

It is from Apostle Paul that we learn that living like Jesus Christ is by faith. What is the meaning of "by faith"? He goes on to teach us that it is believing the promise of God and activating the promise by words of mouth. Anyone who believes God's promise and dares to activate the promise by word of faith will never be put to shame. Trusting in God's promise will make you to continue to speak the word of faith without giving up, until you see the desired result. Without reading the writings of Paul in the Bible, you can never live like Jesus Christ. The reason why Christians are so far away from being like Jesus is because they have not understood the writings of Apostle Paul.

2Pe. 3:15 Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote to you with the wisdom that God gave him.
2Pe. 3:16 He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.

Kei144:


Without the insights given in Apostle Paul's writings, you can never be able to live like Jesus Christ. It is so cheap to talk about living like Jesus Christ; do the living practically and let us see.

Mt. 12:28 But if I drive out demons by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.

Zec. 4:6 So he said to me, “This is the word of the LORD to Zerubbabel: ‘Not by might nor by power, but by my Spirit,’ says the LORD Almighty.

Jesus made it clear that he did all the work that he did by the Spirit of God. Even the Old Testament declared that that is the way to go. Today you hear Christians preach that if you receive Jesus Christ, God will give you the Holy Spirit and you will become holy. After all the talk, which they learned from Europeans, how many Christians are really holy? If you study the writings of Apostle Paul very well, you will learn how to live by the Spirit.

Ro. 1:17 For in the gospel a righteousness from God is revealed, a righteousness that is by faith from first to last, [Or is from faith to faith] just as it is written: “The righteous will live by faith.”

Ro. 10:8 But what does it say? “The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart,” [Deut. 30:14] that is, the word of faith we are proclaiming:
Ro. 10:9 That if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
Ro. 10:10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved.
Ro. 10:11 As the Scripture says, “Anyone who trusts in him will never be put to shame.” [Isaiah 28:16]

It is from Apostle Paul that we learn that living like Jesus Christ is by faith. What is the meaning of "by faith"? He goes on to teach us that it is believing the promise of God and activating the promise by words of mouth. Anyone who believes God's promise and dares to activate the promise by word of faith will never be put to shame. Trusting in God's promise will make you to continue to speak the word of faith without giving up, until you see the desired result. Without reading the writings of Paul in the Bible, you can never live like Jesus Christ. The reason why Christians are so far away from being like Jesus is because they have not understood the writings of Apostle Paul.

2Pe. 3:15 Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote to you with the wisdom that God gave him.
2Pe. 3:16 He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.

TheRealMrStan:


Read more: http://www.femiaribisala.com/12-articles-of-faith/paul/202-101-discrepancies-between-jesus-and-paul

babatgtr:
there is no simple sense in comparing both of them. Pickn only one verse or a sentence from the bible with out readin the full chapter to knw reason behind of writn it is a big mistake, no how u will nt misinterpret d verse. In Paul letters paul always refer to Christ as his lord and saviour, Comparing paul and jesus together is lik comparin a potter and a pot together.

plaetton:


Correction.
Paul was not a follower of Jesus.
He never knew Jesus, never heard or learned the teachings of Jesus firsthand from the original disciples of Jesus, neither did he quote Jesus in his teachings.
His so-called encounter with Jesus is the type of bullshyte any conman can cook up.
Such alleged encounters are the bread and butter of conmen the world over since 10,000 BC. lol

And it is interesting that he himself is not shy about calling himself a conman.
And many conmen have indeed cooked up many many of such balonies before and after him.

So, the choice is a simple one for those that call themselves christians.
Who do you follow, Jesus or Pauline doctrine?

dadde:

Dear Christian folks, it not enough to call Mr. Aribisala, all sorts of names. We need to defeat his deception with the word of truth and reason.

I have read many articles written by Aribisala and I have discovered that he needs to tarnish Christ and Christianity to get fame.

Haven said that, it's is necessary I put up an explanation.Very true. .Ther

I promise to present a cogent explanation. My xplanation may not go well with everyone but it ll go a long way.

I WILL BE BACK

prettyboi1989:
U don't read d bible like u reading a novel. If the holyspirit doesn't open ur eyes of understanding to reveal what's in the scriptures, u are far from understanding what's in the bible. So don't come here trying to separate Jesus from paul. Paul was saved by God to preach the Gospel of God. His inspiration was from God so also was that of Christ. Its only an evil person that will want to twist the word and castigate the teachings of any of God's servants.

prettyboi1989:
U don't read d bible like u reading a novel. If the holyspirit doesn't open ur eyes of understanding to reveal what's in the scriptures, u are far from understanding what's in the bible. So don't come here trying to separate Jesus from paul. Paul was saved by God to preach the Gospel of God. His inspiration was from God so also was that of Christ. Its only an evil person that will want to twist the word and castigate the teachings of any of God's servants.

blemon44:
Apostle Paul is a mare human

JESUS is our lord and savior so in him will i put all my trust

why will i obey a mare human,when my God Jesus christ has made it clear for me


As for me and my family we will serve the lord