netotse:

your definition of installed capacity is not correct. Installed capacity depends on the name plate of the units (that's what the prime mover-generator combo is called in the power sector).

If you have 10 units of IMW installed, installed capacity is 10MW, if only 3 are working, installed capacity doesn't change, however, available capacity is only 3MW.

Installed capacity is 10,396MW and available capacity is 6056MW according to NIPP

dasoul:


SMH!!! Although i tend to be pro Buhari but if GenBuhari doesn't know the difference between electrical power and Energy, i may reconsider my support. so if you are invited to debate Uncle GEJ, this is how you will embarrass yourself before the camera and me before my friends? The figure that was quoted in the table is the total power generated in a year expressed as energy for one year.

for instance, if we accept that naija generates 3000MW of power, it means that in a year, naija generates 3000*365*24=26280000MWh=26.3billionkWh of energy per annum which is not very wrong from what was quoted.

gnykelly:


thanks for enlightening me. but why can't we maximize the whole 10000mw why do we hover between 3000-3500mw

ROSSIKE:


I take it you cannot name a single power plant in Nigeria before Kainji Dam (1963)?

Thanks. That was exactly what I said. Your colonial rulers brought in huge generators to power a few GRAs then occupied by Europeans. There was no national grid until the succeeding indigenous governments built one.

omonnakoda:
You are noisy and empty I already named one in the very first post you quoted. As far as your juvenile game is concerned you are just immature. "schooled" how exactly with the "knowledge" That there was no electricity company or power plant before Kainji
. Please stop disgracing yourself. It is embarrassing but then true the emptiest are often the noisiest. Please educate yourself and eschew the habit of making pompous assertions on things you haven't got a clue about.

netotse:



sorry chairman...I just couldn't help my self , link below mentions Ijora was commissioned in 1956, this was before Kainji.

https://www.nairaland.com/235181/graveyard-power-station.

netotse:



sorry chairman...I just couldn't help my self , link below mentions Ijora was commissioned in 1956, this was before Kainji.

https://www.nairaland.com/235181/graveyard-power-station.

ROSSIKE:


Yawwn..... Ijora 'power plant' produced 70 mw. We're talking of real power plants not these generator yards. You might as well name Calabar 'power plant' which produced 10 mw or Oji River 'power plant' which produced 6 mw.

KAINJI DAM commissioned by the Balewa administration, was the first bona fide power plant in Nigeria with a capacity of over 900 mw.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_power_stations_in_Nigeria

omonnakoda:
Do not waste time with the foolish they will drag you down to their level . There are others long before Ijora across the country but even if you carry the plant to his house he will still argue

gnykelly:


thanks for enlightening me. but why can't we maximize the whole 10000mw why do we hover between 3000-3500mw

netotse:


errrr...chairman You are now changing the goalpost abi, you didn't mention real power plant in your post...what you inferred was that there was no power plant in existence before 1963 (of which construction only started in 1963, commissioning was in 1968).

omonnakoda:
The total installed capacity is a mirage no system is ever likely to work at that rate in a sustained way anyway. It is like expecting Usain Bolt to run a sprint for hours. Power demand fluctuates during the day just like on the road with traffic there are peak periods when demand is high and low periods as well. A major problem with electricity in Nigeria is knowledge. Our engineers and technicians are limited in their knowledge and training. Also the sector has not operated as a business and so is plagued by corruption,nepotism and incompetence. Selling it off is a good start but this does not solve the knowledge problem. That is a strategic problem. We have to encourage our kids to study maths and science and seek to form partnerships that will result in knowledge transfer the way the Chinese did. Our largest power plant was built by the Japanese and when there is a major problem we still invite them back at great expense but they often keep our people in the dark about the key skills . If the sector operates like a business we should grow quickly. There is money in the economy to pay for electricity afterall people pay for generators aand I would argue that we generate more that PHCN on an individual and business level combined

mako007:
If we really are 4th in Africa, then I see why European countries keep sending aid to Africa .

netotse:


where would this very large dam be built?

bigfrancis21:


I've actually thought a lot about Nigeria's power issues. Having a huge all-serving dam is wonderful, but we also need gas turbines to effectively utilize the naturally-occurring natural gas, a by-product of oil mining, which otherwise would have been wasted in gas flaring. The amount of natural gas wasted in gas flaring is enough to refine into cylinders and distribute round among Nigerians everyday for use at home as cooking gas. In fact, with all that natural gas, Nigerians need not to be paying to buy cooking gas. Citizens in countries where natural resources abound benefit from the privilege of having that resource in their backyard. All that wasted natural gas has to be utilized in some way into electricity production, which would also help to reduce environmental pollution and green gas effect.

omonnakoda:
What is the basis of this assertion. opinion of facts . Technically we know that single gas stations that generate over 5000 MW are possible and in existence.
Japan a gas importer has at least 4 stations producing over 3500M each and at least one over 5000MW. NigeriaDo we have similar water resources to China that can sustain anything like the Three Gorge Dam. Nigeria is ranked No.9 in the world in terms of gas reserves so I believe gas is the most obvious and practical source of power for us Let us pause and think BEFORE speaking.

ROSSIKE:


A plant that generates 10 mw or 6 mw is a generator yard for colonialists. They simply imported industrial generators to power some select districts. Don't come in here counting those things as Nigerian power plants biko.

Here's a list of South Africa's first plants dating from the 1890s. You see any with 10 mw or 20 mw?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_power_stations_in_South_Africa

Feraz:
Normally, I'd say Niger state cos of the state's huge land mass but seeing that it has the two major power plants in Nigeria, I'd say we try somewhere down south close to the sea or maybe Kogi state.

Far from it, I'm not saying we should keep flaring the abundant gas that we have. You gave a wonderful solution to the use of the gas which is every household using it as cooking gas; in addition, I can say if we were a nation that really took science, technology and engineering serious, we'd have probably been doing research on gas-powered gas automobiles or might have developed concepts which will be looking at the commercial applications by now.

Thanks for that. Never knew there were gas turbine plants above 5000MW. It's an opinion BTW. I made my opinion on the fact that many countries do not rely solely on gas turbine power plants.

donmalcolm21:
if other presidents before this regime had done what this regime is doing by privatizing the second and not embezzling 16billion dollars then we should be No 1 in Africa

netotse:


Boss...I'm not getting your drift o...power plants can be classified by fuel, by prime mover or by function. I've never heard of size. It's what it does that makes it a power plant not it's size. If there is some new way of defining what can be called a power plant I'm willing to learn.

In this case you didn't call it properly, that remains a fact whether you choose to admit it or not.

Feraz:
Normally, I'd say Niger state cos of the state's huge land mass but seeing that it has the two major power plants in Nigeria, I'd say we try somewhere down south close to the sea or maybe Kogi state.

Far from it, I'm not saying we should keep flaring the abundant gas that we have. You gave a wonderful solution to the use of the gas which is every household using it as cooking gas; in addition, I can say if we were a nation that really took science, technology and engineering serious, we'd have probably been doing research on gas-powered gas automobiles or might have developed concepts which will be looking at the commercial applications by now.

Thanks for that. Never knew there were gas turbine plants above 5000MW. It's an opinion BTW. I made my opinion on the fact that many countries do not rely solely on gas turbine power plants.

netotse:


how do you think a gas flare (like I've posted below) will show up on a satellite picture compared to street lights?



did you look at the webpage with the visualization of the gas flares? what those pictures measure is light and the light from the flares will outshine any streetlights, any day, any time.

14:
South Africa is currently spending $40 Billion to constract two largest Power station in the World. Medupi Power station production capacity is 4 800MW. Its coming on line this year 2015

bigfrancis21:

Why should gas flaring continue? Oil producing countries barely flare their gases but find a way to channel the gas into some important usage. Give me one important reason why the gas should continue to be wasted?

gnykelly:


thanks for enlightening me. but why can't we maximize the whole 10000mw why do we hover between 3000-3500mw

genearts:

Hahahahaha.. Bros u jst won comment of the day

Feraz:
Normally, I'd say Niger state cos of the state's huge land mass but seeing that it has the two major power plants in Nigeria, I'd say we try somewhere down south close to the sea or maybe Kogi state.

Far from it, I'm not saying we should keep flaring the abundant gas that we have. You gave a wonderful solution to the use of the gas which is every household using it as cooking gas; in addition, I can say if we were a nation that really took science, technology and engineering serious, we'd have probably been doing research on gas-powered gas automobiles or might have developed concepts which will be looking at the commercial applications by now.

Thanks for that. Never knew there were gas turbine plants above 5000MW. It's an opinion BTW. I made my opinion on the fact that many countries do not rely solely on gas turbine power plants.

netotse:


It's never really on single issue, it's usually a mix of them...the more common ones are:

1. fuel shortage is a major problem in Nigeria, sometimes we dont have enough gas for the gas-fired stations,
2. sometimes it could be that there is a problem with some generators at different generating companies in the grid,
3. sometimes there might be a problem in the transmission grid that results in power being available but Transmission coy of Nigeria cant transport it,

The grid is made up of a large number of individual pieces of equipment, the problem with such a system is that as the number of components of a system increases, it's reliability is likely to decrease. Feraz mentioned building larger units (you could say power plants), this would help with nos. 2 and 3 but not 1.

Designing a power sector isn't an easy task, if you now have funding constraints...smh.

netotse:


errr...what does land mass have to do with a dam? you aren't far off when you mention Kogi...Shiroro dam was not meant to be installed at the shiroro gorge, it shoulda been somewhere at the confluence but it was a political decision. Another thing, when you say the two major power plants in Nigeria what do you mean? How are they "the" two major power plants in Nigeria?

P.S. All hydro stations in Nigeria are in Niger state...well Jebba is in both Niger and kwara sha...

one more thing...you're mixing a lot of terms up, you need to watch that, it could come back to haunt you later.

netotse:


Boss...I'm not getting your drift o...power plants can be classified by fuel, by prime mover or by function. I've never heard of size. It's what it does that makes it a power plant not it's size. If there is some new way of defining what can be called a power plant I'm willing to learn.

In this case you didn't call it properly, that remains a fact whether you choose to admit it or not.