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Re: China And Russia Send Sophisticated War Weapons To Nigeria by readerson(m): 11:54pm On Feb 28, 2015
chronique:
I don't like insulting people but I think most of the posters on this thread,are just plain stupid. Do you guys think buying weapons is as simple as ABC? Or do you guys think it's like buying chocolates @ shoprite and strolling back home with a full bag?

The boko haram war and menace,has evolved from stage to stage and with each new stage,comes a new discovery.

At stage 1,the NA never thought they were faced with a formidable opponent but unknowingly to them,they had something else coming. Boko haram grew to become formidable due to the activities of moles within the army. This sabotage,gave boko haram ample opportunity to stockpile arms looted from the NA armory,and from the black market.

At stage 2,boko haram used these arms to fight the NA and gained a lot of towns due to activities of sabotage in the army. The guerilla warfare tactic deployed by bh made it very difficult for the military to record significant progress. Nigeria hadn't been involved in something like this before,and the weapons possessed by the military were better suited for conventional warfare. If they had deployed such then,innocent individuals would have been killed and this would have led to something else again.

At stage 3,the military realised they needed a different kind of approach to the insurgency and this approach meant getting new weapons and equipments that would suit the operations.
At this stage,the FG approached our so called friends in the west for assistance with specific kind of weapons but they turned us down and even blocked most deals that would have sailed through. This forced us to go the black market way and again,the deal was blocked and a huge scandal was made about it.

At stage 4,the FG had to openly request a loan for arms purchase and this loan would not be received in cash. A foreign govt would supply us arms directly to the tune of 1bn dollars,thereby eliminating the biz of middle-men in the deals. At the end,we ended up patronising the Russians and the Chinese for stuffs that our friends couldn't give us because they kept citing poor human rights records as a reason for not selling to us.

At stage 5,all the mistakes learnt from the onset have been sorted out,neighbouring countries whose bordering towns used to be safe haven for bh have decided not to allow their territories to be used as a base for fleeing terrorists,and have joined in the battle against the insurgents. Weapon transactions that have been in the pipeline,are gradually coming into fruition and the tide has been turned against the insurgents. Sooner than we think,we'd win this war.


Yes,we can't stay without blaming the NA or the president one way or the other but the truth is,there is no specialized manual world over,that teaches you how to successfully quench insurgency at once. The almighty US has been involved in at least 3 wars in the last 15 years and those countries where the wars occured,have been worse than the way the US met it. Libya,Iraq and Afghanistan are classic modern day examples. Even the US with all her might and weapons and technology,haven't been able to quench insurgency anywhere on the planet. If they had,we wouldn't still be talking about groups like Al-qaeda,ISIS,Al-shabab,Boko haram,etc. They are still learning on the job but they have more experience than us. The US with all her might,lost the Vietnam war that lasted for 30yrs cummullatively. The war was fought between the south Vietnam who were backed by the US and French forces,and the North Vietnam backed by China and the Soviet Union. At the end,the French and the US were defeated. Boko haram is not defeating us and despite our meagre defence budget,we're winning the war against them. Those who argue about Buhari defeating the Maitasine rebels shouldn't forget that those rebels never had the weapons or knowledge/support that the boko haram insurgents have. They also never had access to the kind of funds boko haram have. Finally,they never had a veritable means of spreading their propaganda and creating a larger than life image of themselves.

When we put all these together,we'd know why some of us still give kudos to the current C-in-C and the military high command. Under them,Nigeria faced a new challenge and still overcame it. No leader in this history of Nigeria,has faced this kind of issue. Having a growing economy tipped to be one of the top 10 in a few years time,and still having to battle insurgency at the same time. If only we never had the boko haram menace,only God knows the kind of giant strides we would have made as a nation.


At the end of the day,Nigeria shall overcome and we'd fulfil our potential as a nation.
The first matured comment thus far.
More wisdom.

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Re: China And Russia Send Sophisticated War Weapons To Nigeria by Nobody: 12:23am On Mar 01, 2015
When they finish fooling themselves they. Should let us know..their administration is poorly written script..the ending part is not facinating at all..
Chrylich:
the question is how come everything started happening 6 weeks to the election... what has Jonathan bn doing?
playing politics with peoples' lives?
it is really pathetic..
Bokoharam has bn around for quite a while now, the intensity of the insurgency has bn at its peak for about 2 to 3 years now buh President Goodluck Ebele Jonathan only got to know that prompt actions should be taken just few weeks to the election.. n some bastards would still be hailing this dr fellow bastard over ds glaring propanganda.. I can't just imagine.. It is now so hard to differentiate between what is right n what is wrong..
n fact is, it is not Buhari or APC that i like, it is Jonathan n his administration that I hate.
I have always hated him since the subsidy thang
Re: China And Russia Send Sophisticated War Weapons To Nigeria by windowxp5(m): 12:28am On Mar 01, 2015
teemanbastos:
wic military? Lies.. Why didnt dy send d war weapons 3yrs,2yrs bak..why wen election is near? No wonda dy postpond d election cos sum of dia rigging equipments hadnt arrived..
PDP Knw dy will lose and they are bent on unleashing mayhem..
But God is bigger than them all since
the Voice of the People is the Voice of God.

When the battle is hottest,Victory is nigh.

Part of our N21b is currently burning in Abuja right now "First lady's dinner in honour of the entertainment industry" live on nta. so many nonsense. We're China and Russia on leave vacation from the onset when he observed USA didn't want to sell weapons to Nigeria. They can tell that to the morons who are political parties loyalists and fanatics.
Re: China And Russia Send Sophisticated War Weapons To Nigeria by Isajaf: 12:30am On Mar 01, 2015
it is because, anywhere GEJ goes to procure weapons like USA and Israel to fight, your propaganda will stop him so to enable you apc to continue your evil did to your citizen you want to rule by force
Re: China And Russia Send Sophisticated War Weapons To Nigeria by hunter21(m): 12:37am On Mar 01, 2015
windowxp5:


We're China and Russia on leave vacation from the onset when he observed USA didn't want to sell weapons to Nigeria.
do you know USA stopped buying our oil because we bought weapons from east block consequentially plunging the naira
Re: China And Russia Send Sophisticated War Weapons To Nigeria by azikiweironsi(m): 1:04am On Mar 01, 2015
Emphasis:
Lets see the "war equipment" in "our airport" or its just a bluff.
Seconded
Re: China And Russia Send Sophisticated War Weapons To Nigeria by Sanchez01: 1:27am On Mar 01, 2015
The thread is FAKE and the claims are UNTRUE. Uncovered! Read here https://www.nairaland.com/2172746/untrue-russia-china-did-not
Re: China And Russia Send Sophisticated War Weapons To Nigeria by aresa: 1:28am On Mar 01, 2015

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Re: China And Russia Send Sophisticated War Weapons To Nigeria by Adminisher: 1:30am On Mar 01, 2015
windowxp5:


Part of our N21b is currently burning in Abuja right now "First lady's dinner in honour of the entertainment industry" live on nta. so many nonsense. We're China and Russia on leave vacation from the onset when he observed USA didn't want to sell weapons to Nigeria. They can tell that to the morons who are political parties loyalists and fanatics.

Yes I am watching it as well. Mama Peace and her bleached, fat Nollywood joker/supporters making fools of themselves on public television.
Re: China And Russia Send Sophisticated War Weapons To Nigeria by JayJustus(m): 2:06am On Mar 01, 2015
chronique:
I don't like insulting people but I think most of the posters on this thread,are just plain stupid. Do you guys think buying weapons is as simple as ABC? Or do you guys think it's like buying chocolates @ shoprite and strolling back home with a full bag?

The boko haram war and menace,has evolved from stage to stage and with each new stage,comes a new discovery.

At stage 1,the NA never thought they were faced with a formidable opponent but unknowingly to them,they had something else coming. Boko haram grew to become formidable due to the activities of moles within the army. This sabotage,gave boko haram ample opportunity to stockpile arms looted from the NA armory,and from the black market.

At stage 2,boko haram used these arms to fight the NA and gained a lot of towns due to activities of sabotage in the army. The guerilla warfare tactic deployed by bh made it very difficult for the military to record significant progress. Nigeria hadn't been involved in something like this before,and the weapons possessed by the military were better suited for conventional warfare. If they had deployed such then,innocent individuals would have been killed and this would have led to something else again.

At stage 3,the military realised they needed a different kind of approach to the insurgency and this approach meant getting new weapons and equipments that would suit the operations.
At this stage,the FG approached our so called friends in the west for assistance with specific kind of weapons but they turned us down and even blocked most deals that would have sailed through. This forced us to go the black market way and again,the deal was blocked and a huge scandal was made about it.

At stage 4,the FG had to openly request a loan for arms purchase and this loan would not be received in cash. A foreign govt would supply us arms directly to the tune of 1bn dollars,thereby eliminating the biz of middle-men in the deals. At the end,we ended up patronising the Russians and the Chinese for stuffs that our friends couldn't give us because they kept citing poor human rights records as a reason for not selling to us.

At stage 5,all the mistakes learnt from the onset have been sorted out,neighbouring countries whose bordering towns used to be safe haven for bh have decided not to allow their territories to be used as a base for fleeing terrorists,and have joined in the battle against the insurgents. Weapon transactions that have been in the pipeline,are gradually coming into fruition and the tide has been turned against the insurgents. Sooner than we think,we'd win this war.


Yes,we can't stay without blaming the NA or the president one way or the other but the truth is,there is no specialized manual world over,that teaches you how to successfully quench insurgency at once. The almighty US has been involved in at least 3 wars in the last 15 years and those countries where the wars occured,have been worse than the way the US met it. Libya,Iraq and Afghanistan are classic modern day examples. Even the US with all her might and weapons and technology,haven't been able to quench insurgency anywhere on the planet. If they had,we wouldn't still be talking about groups like Al-qaeda,ISIS,Al-shabab,Boko haram,etc. They are still learning on the job but they have more experience than us. The US with all her might,lost the Vietnam war that lasted for 30yrs cummullatively. The war was fought between the south Vietnam who were backed by the US and French forces,and the North Vietnam backed by China and the Soviet Union. At the end,the French and the US were defeated. Boko haram is not defeating us and despite our meagre defence budget,we're winning the war against them. Those who argue about Buhari defeating the Maitasine rebels shouldn't forget that those rebels never had the weapons or knowledge/support that the boko haram insurgents have. They also never had access to the kind of funds boko haram have. Finally,they never had a veritable means of spreading their propaganda and creating a larger than life image of themselves.

When we put all these together,we'd know why some of us still give kudos to the current C-in-C and the military high command. Under them,Nigeria faced a new challenge and still overcame it. No leader in this history of Nigeria,has faced this kind of issue. Having a growing economy tipped to be one of the top 10 in a few years time,and still having to battle insurgency at the same time. If only we never had the boko haram menace,only God knows the kind of giant strides we would have made as a nation.


At the end of the day,Nigeria shall overcome and we'd fulfil our potential as a nation.


you my nigga deserves a bottle of star and fish pepper soup!!!

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Re: China And Russia Send Sophisticated War Weapons To Nigeria by drwebs: 3:39am On Mar 01, 2015
Chrylich:
the question is how come everything started happening 6 weeks to the election... what has Jonathan bn doing?
playing politics with peoples' lives?
it is really pathetic..
Bokoharam has bn around for quite a while now, the intensity of the insurgency has bn at its peak for about 2 to 3 years now buh President Goodluck Ebele Jonathan only got to know that prompt actions should be taken just few weeks to the election.. n some bastards would still be hailing this dr fellow bastard over ds glaring propanganda.. I can't just imagine.. It is now so hard to differentiate between what is right n what is wrong..
n fact is, it is not Buhari or APC that i like, it is Jonathan n his administration that I hate.
I have always hated him since the subsidy thang

Bro, I now understand where all this is coming from. Pls try and work in love, you can't appreciate anything good in a person if you hate the person. Even if he brings down Heaven on Earth.

GEJ was not the cause of the delay in crushing BH. He faced a lot of challenges and as a democratic dispensation, you don't just go on killing rebels. That's the last option.

He tried negotiation and that failed.
He requested for sophisticated weapons and they were delayed as our supposed friends(USA) refused selling them to us after they refused also to help us attack BH.
He tried getting it tru the backdoor but got exposed by the opposition party(APC leaders).

If things got delayed till now, don't put the blame all on GEJ. He's got the interest of Nigeria at heart, but as you know it, politics is a game, if the opposition see that you stopping BH is going to add more points to your return to power, they will do everything to stop it.

We should blame the people behind the delay, hail GEJ for finally getting through the challenges.
APC leaders seem to have a deal with US from the happening of things.
GEJ law on Gay rights has made them(US) withdraw a lot of aid from Nigeria. Now they are supporting the return of GMB by offering help with Campaign strategies, refushing to aid in attacking BH, refusing sale of weapons, etc.

Bro, pls think on this things, remove heart from your heart and you'll be seeing with HD.
Re: China And Russia Send Sophisticated War Weapons To Nigeria by tociano009(m): 3:50am On Mar 01, 2015
vokalguy:



Sighs, ignorance is a disease.... ok check this out.. IF the United States actually decided no to sell weapons to Nigeria because of the gay law, instead of you fools to support them, you go on saying "Shame on Obama". As the citizens of the Federal Republic of Nigeria, don't you think every individual has the MOTHERF**KING right to choose their own sexual preference?! It irks me when you let ignorance get in the way of things and you go ahead pointing fingers. It is 2015, stop fighting for partial freedom, its your country, practice whatever religion you want, sleep with whosoever you want to sleep with, if a female likes another female, let her be and do not condemn her.
what is this Baboon and dog saying

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Re: China And Russia Send Sophisticated War Weapons To Nigeria by tociano009(m): 3:51am On Mar 01, 2015
sledjama:


you need someone to pour cold water on you so that you can wake and start using your grey matters
why is he all of a sudden winning the war?

why hasn't he employed all these skillsets long before losing 15,000 nigerians including those medical students who lose their lives in that jos market?

shame on him
Are you for real
Re: China And Russia Send Sophisticated War Weapons To Nigeria by mrfabulous96(m): 4:11am On Mar 01, 2015
Right move mr president...I like dat cuz it z better to act than to say.........let them(bokoharam) here :oRight move mr president...I like dat cuz it z better to act than to say.........let them(bokoharam) here
Re: China And Russia Send Sophisticated War Weapons To Nigeria by mrfabulous96(m): 4:12am On Mar 01, 2015
Right move mr president...I like dat cuz it z better to act than to say.........let them(bokoharam) here
Re: China And Russia Send Sophisticated War Weapons To Nigeria by suco50(m): 5:10am On Mar 01, 2015
Lemon12:
u are a very stu.pid somebody
Kettle calling pot black, if you are reasonable, isn't it obvious that GEJ is only enticing you with his last minutes Mr-nice-guy-activities to canvass for your votes? It's you that is a BIG FO.OL, agba oponu somebody.
Re: China And Russia Send Sophisticated War Weapons To Nigeria by GBTYO: 5:15am On Mar 01, 2015
Unibenstudent:
After this boko haram has past us,we will probe Jonathan for waiting for boko haram to cause catastrophic damages before taking them down..

fool
Re: China And Russia Send Sophisticated War Weapons To Nigeria by DaBullIT(m): 6:12am On Mar 01, 2015
[size=28pt]PDP Nairalanders , Always falling for cheap scam

Those pictures are Indian Army's arsenal , Israel and picture from one other country


Need i say more
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Re: China And Russia Send Sophisticated War Weapons To Nigeria by echelons(m): 6:24am On Mar 01, 2015
Chrylich:
the question is how come everything started happening 6 weeks to the election... what has Jonathan bn doing?
playing politics with peoples' lives?
it is really pathetic..
Bokoharam has bn around for quite a while now, the intensity of the insurgency has bn at its peak for about 2 to 3 years now buh President Goodluck Ebele Jonathan only got to know that prompt actions should be taken just few weeks to the election.. n some bastards would still be hailing this dr fellow bastard over ds glaring propanganda.. I can't just imagine.. It is now so hard to differentiate between what is right n what is wrong..
n fact is, it is not Buhari or APC that i like, it is Jonathan n his administration that I hate.
I have always hated him since the subsidy thang

Have you asked yourself why this didn't happen say Christmas period before the Feb 14 election? Or wouldn't ppl say the same thing if the bombardments were happening then?
The truth is, you don't buy high grade military equipment off the shelf. Bargains and deals for such kinda equipment take long time conclude. No country will like to expose its military capacity, or will like its military hardware to be used against civilians.
Nigeria started the bargain will the US while fighting BH with the local tools we had.
When it became obvious that the US was not ready to sell (partly because of the evil propaganda of the opposition), the govt had to initiate other deals with other nations.
But is this not our victory, even if it happens just before the elections? Should we fold our hands and allow BH to cause disaster on us during the election so we can blame Jonathan? Or should we encourage the President and the Nigerian Armed Forces to do more.
Let's stop trivialising important successes just because the opposition parties are not comfortable.
Thank God the elections were postponed.
God bless the President.
God bless NAFs.
God bless Nigeria.
God bless us all.
Re: China And Russia Send Sophisticated War Weapons To Nigeria by PerfectlyPerfect(m): 6:37am On Mar 01, 2015
hedges007:
PDP and GEJ's Trolls are everywhere with the fake news...Apart from the BTR-94 APC..i can guarantee you that, non of those weapons in those pixs are in Nigeria. Infact those pixs are not from Nigeria..Keep deceiving yourselves.
hedges007:
PDP and GEJ's Trolls are everywhere with the fake news...Apart from the BTR-94 APC..i can guarantee you that, non of those weapons in those pixs are in Nigeria. Infact those pixs are not from Nigeria..Keep deceiving yourselves.

Guy is it just that you done like good news or what?
If u don't like good news, good news can never follow you. What do you know about the military?
What are you basing this your useless comment upon
Please if u have nothing tangible to say, shove your mouth into your pocket.
Tufiakwa!
Re: China And Russia Send Sophisticated War Weapons To Nigeria by Chigold101(m): 6:38am On Mar 01, 2015
tociano009:
Shame on Obama, thanks our able President till 2019 #Neveragain#
shame on Obama, Shame on USA & UK.

KUDOS TO OUR PRESIDENT & OUR GALLANT SOLDIERS.


Never Again... Shall we beg the USA

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Re: China And Russia Send Sophisticated War Weapons To Nigeria by PerfectlyPerfect(m): 6:44am On Mar 01, 2015
sweetgala:
NIGERIA CAN NOT AFFORD THAT ANTONOV BOMBER IN THE FIRST PICTURE , GREAT TO HAVE THE EQUIPMENT TO PURGE THIS BH MENACE.

BUT I CAN'T SHAKE THE FEELING PDP AND GEJ ARE USING THIS BH SITUATION AS A POLITICAL TOOL AND COULD HAVE RID OF BH A LONG TIME AGO

1)Dude please don't politicize everything. It doesn't help. If you come upon a post pertaining to the military, dont add any political undertone to it. Abeg
2)And who told you nigeria can't afford an antonov. 1 costs around 200million dollars, is that what nigeria can't afford Do you have any idea how much was mapped out for the defence budget
3) and antonovs are not bombers. They're used for transporting very heavy cargo like tanks. They're much too heavy and have low manuevrability.
Please stop seeing propaganda in everything.
Re: China And Russia Send Sophisticated War Weapons To Nigeria by daddyiel(m): 6:55am On Mar 01, 2015
Seun360:
Thunder fire GEJ.
and your parents still think they have a child? Your world will keep cursing you till death
Re: China And Russia Send Sophisticated War Weapons To Nigeria by ChikezieU(m): 7:28am On Mar 01, 2015
Truckpusher:
Well, that phrase, "his God given natural resources" is a figure of speech . Go figure.

And in responding to your thoughtless and erroneous submission. Are the oil wells you're so eager to point out in the hands of the Niger Delta people ?
the oil well contract is said to expire on 2017 while its current owners r not from ND so their is no doubt the might be kicking against GEJ being re-elected.
Re: China And Russia Send Sophisticated War Weapons To Nigeria by sammybhaws(m): 7:30am On Mar 01, 2015
GEJ IS THE COMMANDER IN CHIEF OF ALL ARMED FORCES.. WE NIGERIANS HAVE BEEN PUSHING THE MAN...WE WILL BE PUSHING HIM AND ONE DAY HE WILL DO WHAT OBJ DID IN ODI..(ORDER FULL MILITARY STRIKES IN THE NORTH EAST WHICH WILL KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE)
Re: China And Russia Send Sophisticated War Weapons To Nigeria by sammybhaws(m): 7:32am On Mar 01, 2015
Luxxycool:
Why did they wait till this moment

Sai Baba
Sai Buhari
. Death to buhari.....
Re: China And Russia Send Sophisticated War Weapons To Nigeria by NeilOssai(m): 7:36am On Mar 01, 2015
tociano009:
Shame on Obama, thanks our able President till 2019 #Neveragain#
,,those pictures tell u say na 9ja dem dey.... y re pple so dumb in this country sef cry cry
Re: China And Russia Send Sophisticated War Weapons To Nigeria by Truckpusher(m): 7:41am On Mar 01, 2015
ChikezieU:
the oil well contract is said to expire on 2017 while its current owners r not from ND so their is no doubt the might be kicking against GEJ being re-elected.
It's a part of it .
Nigeria is at a cross-road and it will take a lot of horse trading for we not to clash .

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Re: China And Russia Send Sophisticated War Weapons To Nigeria by beetruth: 7:51am On Mar 01, 2015
Are people just getting dumber these days or just trying to create propaganda where there is none. The op said 'this type of' and you are here screaming lies.
Pls try to read and not just rush to defend.
Long live Nigeria
Vote and not fight
Vote your belief but as for me o#GEJtill2019
Kudos to the president and the gallant soldiers

And to all cursers I say good measure press down shaking together *10000000 of whatever you say back to you
#Happy Sunday
Re: China And Russia Send Sophisticated War Weapons To Nigeria by Mustack: 10:08am On Mar 01, 2015
TANOID always fool NAIRALaNDERS
chai all this fake news you're sharing the ris GOD OH.

shocked
read
https://www.nairaland.com/2172599/pdp-lies-busted-see-evidence
Re: China And Russia Send Sophisticated War Weapons To Nigeria by Nobody: 10:56am On Mar 01, 2015
suco50:
Kettle calling pot black, if you are reasonable, isn't it obvious that GEJ is only enticing you with his last minutes Mr-nice-guy-activities to canvass for your votes? It's you that is a BIG FO.OL, agba oponu somebody.
born troway
Re: China And Russia Send Sophisticated War Weapons To Nigeria by Nobody: 10:56am On Mar 01, 2015
Jesuspikin77:
I am very happy that we are winning the war

But something strange is the recent developments have shown that the FG had the capability to wipe out BH all these while and they refused to do it why??

I'm sorry to say that even if we wipe out BH it will make me to want to vote against PDP the more because everything they have been achieving since election postponement shows how devilish they can be.

GEJ pulled this same stunt in 2010 b4 2011 elections. I know for sure that I am not the only who recall buying kerosene for N50 per litre, dangote cement sold around N1,000 and some other aspects i can't recall vividly.

Elections came. We voted him in but 8 months after his swearing in petrol price rose from N65 to N140 or thereabout only for him to bring down to N97 and since then other catastrophic policies and decisions have followed suit

In GEJ's own words '#neveragain will i trust him'

My point exactly.

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