gbl01:


Thanks but i dont want to understand evolution

funmo:
DIFFERENT STROKES FOR DIFFERENT FOLKS

but it is rather wise if one agrees there is a God, and makes heaven, and afterwards discover there isn't God after all... nothing to lose

THAN

to argue till death that God doesn't exist, and afterwards discover he does, and end up in fire


BUT THE FIRST LADY SUMS IT ALL UP ATHEISTS





"chai... there is Godu o o o..."

ipunchbitches:
Religion has actually convinced
people that there's an invisible
man living in the sky who
watches everything you do,
every minute of every day. And
the invisible man has a special
list of ten things he does not
want you to do. And if you do
any of these ten things, he has a
special place, full of fire and
smoke and burning and torture
and anguish, where he will
send you to live and suffer and
burn and choke and scream and
cry forever and ever 'til the end
of time!
But He loves you. He loves you,
and He needs money! He always
needs money! He's all-powerful,
all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-
wise, somehow just can't handle
money!

Misogynist2014:
Atheirts are foöls that try to substitute things which need knowledge to understand with probability.

davien:
I'm following your logic here.....you implied that if we can't see who gave birth to Bill gates "does that mean he doesn't exist"...

ofwhich I replied, we can see Bill gates, can we see "god"?

johnydon22:


Thats one of the religious ideologies that are ridiculous in this century that man is superior to woman... but we know both are equal..

jes7:

you are the one not following the logic. My line of argument is that to prove there is a creator, you don't necessarily have to prove the creator must have been created. so to say for there to be a creator, there has to be the creator of the creator does not in anyway prove that there is no creator.

Tedman:
And by "equal" u mean?
Because, even men are not equal to one another; when one operates with the fundamental meaning of the word.

jes7:

you are the one not following the logic. My line of argument is that to prove there is a creator, you don't necessarily have to prove the creator must have been created. so to say for there to be a creator, there has to be the creator of the creator does not in anyway prove that there is no creator.

frankmishael1:
u will die horrible death before this month end, if it didn't happen know I'm not a man of God

davien:
Explain to me the bolded and where I ever implied such...
And you've established that you're ready to resort to insults to deviate scrutiny of your mythology..

Can everyone here see a perfect example of a theist willing to do just about anything(including lying) just to spread the belief?

freecocoa:
Very poor attempt at sarcasm.

Just answer the damned question.

johnydon22:

Then isn't it simpler to say the universe has no creator since you don't want to accept this your creator have a creator too...

neoapocalypse:


You and your god claim to be good and love everyone yet you wish a horrible death for a man who has his own choice , if you ask me I'll say it is you and your god who are the real devils

davien:
Neither does it mean there is one...so we'd only act according to what we know....since "god/gods" cannot be substantiated, the concept is not considered...because as far as we know it's inseparable from imaginary friends...

Nicklaus:
I will after you have explained to me what you meant by "And I doubt simplicity equates atheism."

I termed you as misguided because you referred me to a so-called fairy-tale site that probably got your brain twisted sideways,

crunch that! Do you really think that's so hard to fathom ?

And what belief are you talking about here ?
Believing in God is simply common sense, even great scientist admitted that.

What do you know? And I also see how manipulative you so-called atheist tend to be, you ll do anything to recruits soldiers for satan.

Well if you insist on your ill-baked dogma, don't forget that your very existence is a myth and the air you breathe in is a mixture of nature's accident.

frankmishael1:
u will too

neoapocalypse:


I love this girl

jes7:
But if you need a prove that God exists, there are many proofs. On the other hand I am very sure you cannot prove that God does not exist.

jes7:

That something is simpler does not make it true. The first level of reasoning is that the world we live in and life itself is a product of intelligence even if you are scared of calling that intelligence God. I think it makes a more intellectual sense to assume we were created than to think we are a mindless product of chance and time. You think of it, is it easier to infer chance anytime we see an information or to infer intelligence? If you see a writing on the floor wishing you happy birthday on you birthday will you say it was just chance that nobody did it? The DNA contains billions of intelligently arranged letters containing very complex information, now tell me chance or intelligence which should be inferred here?

jes7:

I am not trying to prove anything here, I am only responding to the weak argument that says for us to prove there is a creator we have to keep proving there is a creator of the creator. But if you need a prove that God exists, there are many proofs. On the other hand I am very sure you cannot prove that God does not exist.

jes7:

I am not trying to prove anything here, I am only responding to the weak argument that says for us to prove there is a creator we have to keep proving there is a creator of the creator. But if you need a prove that God exists, there are many proofs. On the other hand I am very sure you cannot prove that God does not exist.

5minsmadness:

The topic is on atheists having faith i.e believing in something they can't prove. I was just trying to show him that he uses faith as well.


This thread don go far oh! Am in the office, will address further when I get home.

davien:
He claimed atheism implied simplicity....and i simply objected staying that "simplicity doesn't equate to atheism" and that actually theists prefer simplicity to complex explanations.....that is why a 7 day creation, bats being birds and stepping on stars are easily accepted....because they offer...no or little explanation and/or attach a moral significance to boost belief.


Now I see the problem here, you didn't read my reply at all, if you did you'd see the part I told you that those qualities are fairy-tales by definition, and then proceeded to give you a site where the definition of a fairy tale is given and it matched biblical stories of witches, wizards, etc

What are you referring to here?



I've established from my first post on this topic that "common sense" is useless to the reality of things....."common sense" is merely what we expect or assume things to be,based on our intuition(and preconceptions)....


Again... trying to misrepresent atheism will do you no good....

Hmmmmmm.....is this your last response,an agitated reply?

babyshaQ1:
Atheists just don't believe. Atheism is not a belief system. Christianity does not provide answers to questions on how humans or any other thing in nature came to being, neither does any religion and I think it's plain laziness and ignorantly stubborn to attribute gaps in knowledge to any god...at least there are people out there looking for answers and explain unlike those who just hold on to ridiculous stories as an account of creation...why did your god stop creating anyway I'd rather believe my tradition's myth of creation or Oduduwa's story than foolishly believe that we all came from a Jew named Noah

jes7:

I am not trying to prove anything here, I am only responding to the weak argument that says for us to prove there is a creator we have to keep proving there is a creator of the creator. But if you need a prove that God exists, there are many proofs. On the other hand I am very sure you cannot prove that God does not exist.

babyshaQ1:
Atheists just don't believe. Atheism is not a belief system. Christianity does not provide answers to questions on how humans or any other thing in nature came to being, neither does any religion and I think it's plain laziness and ignorantly stubborn to attribute gaps in knowledge to any god...at least there are people out there looking for answers and explain unlike those who just hold on to ridiculous stories as an account of creation...why did your god stop creating anyway I'd rather believe my tradition's myth of creation or Oduduwa's story than foolishly believe that we all came from a Jew named Noah

5minsmadness:


It is rather interesting how you guys jumped the other questions I asked and zoned in on this one.
atheists not believing in God with such enthusiasm IS a VERY FERVENT BELIEF in itself. All atheists believe in the non-existence of God or gods, and short of a physical contact with such deities, will simply refuse to follow an argument for the existence of a creator. THAT in itself is a firm belief system.

5minsmadness:

as for your second paragraph, has evolution stopped? if yes why? if no why haven't we as humans evolved 4 pairs of hands since we are so busy all the time?

5minsmadness:


[size=14pt]“If there were no God, there would be no atheists.”-GK Chesterton[/size]

Weah96:


As far as Christianity, Islam, and Judaism are concerned, reaching a consensus on a creator of the universe advances us nowhere. We're still locked in the room with the hungry 800lb gorilla. If you say that there is a creator, and keep quiet after that statement, then I wouldn't have much of a rebuttal. Things don't jump out of nowhere, at least not in objective reality.
But that's not what you're saying. You're not only saying that there is a creator, but you claim to have the book that this creator dictated to a handful of white people. I've looked into the claim thoroughly, read the book, carried out the rituals and incantations, and determined that it is a scam. The creator is obviously not the humanoid alien from the Abrahamic religions.