MEILYN:
No matter what I tell you about this verse, I am not sure you will change your mindset towards it. You cannot understand the Bible since you don't believe in it. Do well to read the whole chapter, it will enlighten you on what led to that statement.

I am laughing right now. According to your interpretation, that verse simple means the kingdom of God would be taken from the Israelites and handed over to the Ismaelites? Think again sir....

Confirmer:

Have you not considered the Quran? The miracle of all miracles. You are here debating about the authenticity of versions of your bible. The Quran has been in existence for over 1400 without any alterations! You weren't there when Jesus did all the miracles but we have the miracle of Quran with us forever. There is no book in the world that is learn by heart and off hand like the Quran. The simplicity by which it's being "crammed" is nothing but divine.

Nuella222:
Write ur own bible with 'Eze goes to school' or 'Ali and Simbi' english. Bet me u'll never b confused in ur entire life again.

Confirmer:

Have you not considered the Quran? The miracle of all miracles. You are here debating about the authenticity of versions of your bible. The Quran has been in existence for over 1400 without any alterations! You weren't there when Jesus did all the miracles but we have the miracle of Quran with us forever. There is no book in the world that is learn by heart and off hand like the Quran. The simplicity by which it's being "crammed" is nothing but divine.

christaddicted:
THE NIV WAHALA!

I have had to address privately questions bordering on the NIV and the name of Jesus. Some of the inquiries are through my inbox while others are direct.

I didn't consider it worth troubling myself about but since the faith of many is being rattled I'm obligated to talk. FIRST, let me say that I've used NIV all my life and find it very good. I also find it worrisome that those calling it names demand that it be torn or burnt. NEXT, let me say that the Bible does not warn only against removals from but also additions to the Bible. Having said that, the critics have not proven to us that the KJV with which they judge the other versions is not an addition to the word of God.

THIRD, the criticisms assume the KJV is the original bible. That is not so. The KJV like the NIV and other versions, is a translation from the original manuscripts which are in Hebrew, Greek and aramaic. To verify the accuracy of any version therefore will require comparison with the original manuscripts and not other versions. To do this one has to not only be versatile with the original languages but also the science of translation known as TEXTUAL CRITICISM.

I happen to be introduced to elementary knowledge of textual criticism while doing a masters degree in theology at the evangel theological seminary Jos. I can tell you that I've not yet found any reason to rate the NIV anything less than the best scholarly work on translation of the bible.

I know that ZONDERVAN is nothing but a printing press. It is not responsible for the translation of the Bible. It also has published many other sound Christian literature as well as many ungodly ones. NIV was a work done in 1964/65. From the claims of the critics Zondervan was bought over in 1998, 34yrs later. How can that nullify the accuracy of the NIV. AGAIN, I observed that all the "missing" texts are footnoted by the translators.

FINALLY, I have been around for sometime in this race. This is not the first time it's coming. it wont be the last. I think that this is an attack on the Bible. The devil does not want the Bible in the people's language. He fought it at the beginning killing Tyndale and co for translating the bible from the vulgate (the Latin version by Jerome) to English. NIV employed the principle of dynamic equivalent in translation which simplifies the language without losing the force of the truth as in the paraphrases. The KJV is the product of literal translation and is limited to the Masoretic texts of the Bible.

My take is own as versions as you can afford and use the one that best guarantees the understanding of the truths therein.

This is not exhaustive but I hope it can give you peace in these perilous times. God bless you all and keep you blameless until his coming day.

Bishop cnc

Xetima:


Yours is a BOOK, but the Bible is "THE WORD OF GOD", so the difference is clear. You can carry a book in your head and it does nothing to your heart, just like you can carry a mathematical formula in you heard from Secondary school days until you die and may never ever use it again. However, the WORD OF GOD is stored in the heart. You heart renders it daily into your life and it affects your behavior such that you are transformed from CARNALITY into SPIRITUALITY, from UNWORTHINESS INTO WORTHINESS, from SADNESS into JOY, from CRISIS into CHRIST, from HATRED into LOVE, from DEATH into LIFE, from ETERNAL CONDEMNATION into ETERNAL LIFE. The list is inexhaustible, you just name it and God will do it. This is the greatest MIRACLE of them all!!!

Give HIM (JESUS-CHRIST) a chance today and you will realise that what you cram CANNOT show you the LIGHT, but only THE MASTER, THE CHIEF CORNERSTONE, THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD, can. HE says, "Behold, I stand at the door (your heart), and knock. If any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me" Rev. 3:20. He continued, "For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light" (Matt. 11:29). In order word, you do not need to CRAM any book.

God Bless you my friend and I pray you see the light soon as many of your brothers and sister have.

folafola:


if recitation is the only proof the quran had has its divinty from the almighty then the ifa oracle reiters are divine too. shame on the moon god for sending a silly prophet without any miracle

Ishilove:
I came across this thread that left me alarmed and sweating because the NIV is my favourite translation and it is what i read 95% of the time:

https://www.nairaland.com/2442956/absolutely-shocking-all-christians-must

I was alarmed, especially when I cross-checked my own copy of the NIV bible and discovered it was true. But then, another Nairalander countered the above with this:


https://www.nairaland.com/2430755/disregard-all-messages-social-media#35732940

I was relieved, and a bit confused. This comment by another Nairalander on the same thread added to the befuddlement:


https://www.nairaland.com/2430755/disregard-all-messages-social-media#35740192

Now, with all these arguments and counter-arguments, I am wondering what to believe. I however wonder why anything should be omitted from the bible.

Let's discuss.

BizBayo:


why would it make a person to turn muslim after reading the aramaic?

MEILYN:
Don't be an Olodo... They are talking about the 2011 version.

haftob:

because of the contents,that's where u'll see dat Jesus talked about the coming of the prophet of Islam and he never talked about the trinity and from it u'll also realise Jesus dint die on the cross but was taken to heaven by God.

EverestdeBliu:
Simple, just 3steps...
1) learn and understand the Hebrew language,for the Bible was originally written in Hebrew.
2) Get the original Bible,untranslated and read the whole from word to word.
3) Before venturing into 1 & 2,pray for the SPIRIT's guidance and divine understanding and interpretation of His word.

Cool83:
Doing what is written there is the most important, lets be the doer of the word

Cool83:
Doing what is written there is the most important, lets be the doer of the word

Confirmer:

Have you not considered the Quran? The miracle of all miracles. You are here debating about the authenticity of versions of your bible. The Quran has been in existence for over 1400 without any alterations! You weren't there when Jesus did all the miracles but we have the miracle of Quran with us forever. There is no book in the world that is learn by heart and off hand like the Quran. The simplicity by which it's being "crammed" is nothing but divine.

MEILYN:
Take a look at this verse. You all should know that mohammed was a descendant of Ismael.


“And when he (Abraham) had separated himself from them, and from that which they worshipped beside God, We gave him Isaac and Jacob; and We made them both prophets; and We granted unto them (benefits of) our mercy; and We granted unto them a lofty tongue of truth.” (Maryam 19:49)

Please oooo, did you see Ismael in that verse? This verse Is from the quran. So, if Ismael wasn't made a prophet during the time of Abraham, who gave mohammed the right to become a prophet?

MEILYN:
Take a look at this verse. You all should know that mohammed was a descendant of Ismael.


“And when he (Abraham) had separated himself from them, and from that which they worshipped beside God, We gave him Isaac and Jacob; and We made them both prophets; and We granted unto them (benefits of) our mercy; and We granted unto them a lofty tongue of truth.” (Maryam 19:49)

Please oooo, did you see Ismael in that verse? This verse Is from the quran. So, if Ismael wasn't made a prophet during the time of Abraham, who gave mohammed the right to become a prophet?

MEILYN:
Take a look at this verse. You all should know that mohammed was a descendant of Ismael.


“And when he (Abraham) had separated himself from them, and from that which they worshipped beside God, We gave him Isaac and Jacob; and We made them both prophets; and We granted unto them (benefits of) our mercy; and We granted unto them a lofty tongue of truth.” (Maryam 19:49)

Please oooo, did you see Ismael in that verse? This verse Is from the quran. So, if Ismael wasn't made a prophet during the time of Abraham, who gave mohammed the right to become a prophet?

Confirmer:

stop taking unnecessary space and let the intelligent folks contribute.

mubarakopeyemi:


Go back to school and learn comprehension
The wife of Abu Lahab is a stern enemy of the prophet. She set road traps serveral times for the holy prophet and made him suffer.
Your sense of justifying the words of the wife of Abu lahab to meaning Satan is the lord of muhammad shows how u lack reasoning. She saying that is just as mockery of the prophet. So then Allah revealed to muhammed that he is with him so as to calm his mind from the slander of the Wife of Abu lahab. And mind you Quran 111 is there for u to know the stance of Abu Lahab and his wife.

Go to Quran 111 Surah al masad verses 1-5

1. Perish the two hands of Abu Lahab (an uncle of
the Prophet), and perish he!
2. His wealth and his children (etc.) will not
benefit him!
3. He will be burnt in a Fire of blazing flames!
4. And his wife too, who carries wood (thorns of
Sadan which she used to put on the way of the
Prophet, or use to slander him).
5. In her neck is a twisted rope of Masad (palm
fibre).

Go and make your research about the deeds of Abu lahab and his wife to the prophet. They were strong haters of the prophet.

So try again.

sportsmaster:
KJV is still the most consistent Translation.